* redhat linux 9 and speakup
@ Nick Gawronski
` Adam Myrow
` Thomas D. Ward
0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Nick Gawronski @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, I have downloaded redhat linux 9 and I can't get the speakup
screen reader to start up when I boot in to the installation boot disk.
When I installed version 8 it worked just fine but I get no speech now
when I try to install or upgrade redhat. What is going on? bye
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redhat linux 9 and speakup Nick Gawronski
@ ` Adam Myrow
` Nick Gawronski
` Thomas D. Ward
1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
That's because Redhat dropped Speakup from Redhat 9.0. It's stired up a
lot of traffic on this list.
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redhat linux 9 and speakup Nick Gawronski
` Adam Myrow
@ ` Thomas D. Ward
` Nick Gawronski
1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, Red Hat 9.0 doesn't have speakup in it. That is the problem, and one of
the major discussions as of late.
There alternative ways of installing RH such as a kickstart installation, or
a telnet installation if you have the stuff to do it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> Hi, I have downloaded redhat linux 9 and I can't get the speakup
> screen reader to start up when I boot in to the installation boot disk.
> When I installed version 8 it worked just fine but I get no speech now
> when I try to install or upgrade redhat. What is going on? bye
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Thomas D. Ward
@ ` Nick Gawronski
` Thomas D. Ward
0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Nick Gawronski @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, How can I do a telnet upgrade? bye On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Thomas D.
Ward wrote:
> Hi, Red Hat 9.0 doesn't have speakup in it. That is the problem, and one of
> the major discussions as of late.
> There alternative ways of installing RH such as a kickstart installation, or
> a telnet installation if you have the stuff to do it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:17 PM
> Subject: redhat linux 9 and speakup
>
>
> > Hi, I have downloaded redhat linux 9 and I can't get the speakup
> > screen reader to start up when I boot in to the installation boot disk.
> > When I installed version 8 it worked just fine but I get no speech now
> > when I try to install or upgrade redhat. What is going on? bye
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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` Nick Gawronski
@ ` Thomas D. Ward
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, if you have a personal networkyou can put the RH cd in the drive start
up, and do a:
linux text telnet
At the boot prompt.
Assuming your nic is supported it will grab a ip from the dhcp server, and
you will have to ping around and find the ip it has taken.
Then, with the other box you can telnet to the box, and read the setup.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> Hi, How can I do a telnet upgrade? bye On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Thomas D.
> Ward wrote:
>
> > Hi, Red Hat 9.0 doesn't have speakup in it. That is the problem, and one
of
> > the major discussions as of late.
> > There alternative ways of installing RH such as a kickstart
installation, or
> > a telnet installation if you have the stuff to do it.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:17 PM
> > Subject: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> >
> >
> > > Hi, I have downloaded redhat linux 9 and I can't get the speakup
> > > screen reader to start up when I boot in to the installation boot
disk.
> > > When I installed version 8 it worked just fine but I get no speech now
> > > when I try to install or upgrade redhat. What is going on? bye
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Thomas D. Ward
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Gregory Nowak
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I have installed RH9 a couple of times using telnet. Thomas' instructions are essentially correct, but ping the broadcast address to see what address dhcp assigned.
It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch consoles.
Thomas D. Ward writes:
> From: "Thomas D. Ward" <tward1978@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi, if you have a personal networkyou can put the RH cd in the drive start
> up, and do a:
> linux text telnet
> At the boot prompt.
> Assuming your nic is supported it will grab a ip from the dhcp server, and
> you will have to ping around and find the ip it has taken.
> Then, with the other box you can telnet to the box, and read the setup.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
>
>
> > Hi, How can I do a telnet upgrade? bye On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Thomas D.
> > Ward wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Red Hat 9.0 doesn't have speakup in it. That is the problem, and one
> of
> > > the major discussions as of late.
> > > There alternative ways of installing RH such as a kickstart
> installation, or
> > > a telnet installation if you have the stuff to do it.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:17 PM
> > > Subject: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi, I have downloaded redhat linux 9 and I can't get the speakup
> > > > screen reader to start up when I boot in to the installation boot
> disk.
> > > > When I installed version 8 it worked just fine but I get no speech now
> > > > when I try to install or upgrade redhat. What is going on? bye
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Gregory Nowak
` Janina Sajka
` Nick Gawronski
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
Greg
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` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Nick Gawronski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
It's just my own personal reaction, probably based on the fact that most of my telnet experience was command line oriented. Of course I use apps like mutt all the time
over ssh, and I know, intellectually, that it's no different. But telnet takes me back, way back, to the days of logging into an ISP like Netcom from a DOS box.
Gregory Nowak writes:
> From: Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
>
> I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
>
> Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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` Gregory Nowak
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Nick Gawronski
` Janina Sajka
` Lorenzo Prince
1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Nick Gawronski @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
>
> I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
>
> Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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` Nick Gawronski
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Nick Gawronski
` Lorenzo Prince
1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
You have three choices, as I see it:
1.) Use sighted assistance to read the screen
2.) Create a kick start file and do a kickstart installation;
3.) Wait and hope Bill can figure out how to make bootable installation floppies with Speakup in the kernel;
I think that about sums it up. I suspect these are also ranked in order of dificulty! <grin>
Nick Gawronski writes:
> From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
>
> Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
> 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> >
> > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Nick Gawronski
` Thomas D. Ward
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Nick Gawronski @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, Where can I learn how to make a kick start installation? bye On Wed,
16 Apr 2003, Janina Sajka wrote:
> You have three choices, as I see it:
>
> 1.) Use sighted assistance to read the screen
>
> 2.) Create a kick start file and do a kickstart installation;
>
> 3.) Wait and hope Bill can figure out how to make bootable installation floppies with Speakup in the kernel;
>
> I think that about sums it up. I suspect these are also ranked in order of dificulty! <grin>
>
> Nick Gawronski writes:
> > From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> >
> > Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> > speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
> > 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> > >
> > > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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` Nick Gawronski
@ ` Thomas D. Ward
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, I can send you a sample ks.cfg file that is used on my desktop, and you
can modify it using the kickstart_howto.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> Hi, Where can I learn how to make a kick start installation? bye On Wed,
> 16 Apr 2003, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > You have three choices, as I see it:
> >
> > 1.) Use sighted assistance to read the screen
> >
> > 2.) Create a kick start file and do a kickstart installation;
> >
> > 3.) Wait and hope Bill can figure out how to make bootable installation
floppies with Speakup in the kernel;
> >
> > I think that about sums it up. I suspect these are also ranked in order
of dificulty! <grin>
> >
> > Nick Gawronski writes:
> > > From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> > >
> > > Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> > > speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15
Apr
> > > 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you
get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> > > >
> > > > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat,
but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you
were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Nick Gawronski
` Thomas D. Ward
@ ` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Kickstart installations are detailed in Red Hat's Customization Guide. All the Red Hat guides are available online at:
http://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/rhl9.html
These guides are an outstanding source of information about Red Hat, and about Linux in general. You will not exhaust them.
I note there are several new guides released for Red Hat 9, which is a good thing indeed.
Please note that kickstart installations are not covered by the Installation Guide. Consider that a warning that performing a successful kickstart installation is not
trivial, especially for the beginner.
Nick Gawronski writes:
> From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
>
> Hi, Where can I learn how to make a kick start installation? bye On Wed,
> 16 Apr 2003, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > You have three choices, as I see it:
> >
> > 1.) Use sighted assistance to read the screen
> >
> > 2.) Create a kick start file and do a kickstart installation;
> >
> > 3.) Wait and hope Bill can figure out how to make bootable installation floppies with Speakup in the kernel;
> >
> > I think that about sums it up. I suspect these are also ranked in order of dificulty! <grin>
> >
> > Nick Gawronski writes:
> > > From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> > >
> > > Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> > > speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
> > > 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> > > >
> > > > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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* Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
` Nick Gawronski
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Lorenzo Prince
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hmm. Interesting question. How easy would it be to rebuild the RH9 iso
for the first bootable CD to include speakup in the kernel package and
boot image before upgrading? This may be a way to fix our problem if we
have the time, and if we don't have a second box or a network of some kind
to do it any other way. Just wondering how easy this method would
actually be to try.
Lorenzo
E Pluribus Unix
Nick Gawronski staggered into view and mumbled:
> Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
> 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> >
> > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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` Lorenzo Prince
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Lorenzo Prince
0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Who is "we?"
Lorenzo Prince writes:
> From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
>
> Hmm. Interesting question. How easy would it be to rebuild the RH9 iso
> for the first bootable CD to include speakup in the kernel package and
> boot image before upgrading? This may be a way to fix our problem if we
> have the time, and if we don't have a second box or a network of some kind
> to do it any other way. Just wondering how easy this method would
> actually be to try.
>
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
> Nick Gawronski staggered into view and mumbled:
>
> > Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> > speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
> > 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> > >
> > > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Lorenzo Prince
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Those of us who have only one box and are trying to upgrade to RH9. I
just happen to be one of the lucky ones as of nearly 2 weeks ago who
actually has a network.
Lorenzo
E Pluribus Unix
Janina Sajka staggered into view and mumbled:
> Who is "we?"
>
>
> Lorenzo Prince writes:
> > From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
> >
> > Hmm. Interesting question. How easy would it be to rebuild the RH9 iso
> > for the first bootable CD to include speakup in the kernel package and
> > boot image before upgrading? This may be a way to fix our problem if we
> > have the time, and if we don't have a second box or a network of some kind
> > to do it any other way. Just wondering how easy this method would
> > actually be to try.
> >
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > E Pluribus Unix
> >
> > Nick Gawronski staggered into view and mumbled:
> >
> > > Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> > > speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
> > > 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> > > >
> > > > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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` Lorenzo Prince
@ ` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hmmm. And I thought you meant you were going to roll up your sleeves and go to work.
OK. You're new here. That's fine, but you should consider reading through the archives and learning a bit before wondering out loud.
You're on the right track in terms of what might work as a solution in the current instance. But, you're wrong to suppose that this is something new around here. Look
at:
http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL73.html
for a little history.
Lorenzo Prince writes:
> From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
>
> Those of us who have only one box and are trying to upgrade to RH9. I
> just happen to be one of the lucky ones as of nearly 2 weeks ago who
> actually has a network.
>
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
> Janina Sajka staggered into view and mumbled:
>
> > Who is "we?"
> >
> >
> > Lorenzo Prince writes:
> > > From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
> > >
> > > Hmm. Interesting question. How easy would it be to rebuild the RH9 iso
> > > for the first bootable CD to include speakup in the kernel package and
> > > boot image before upgrading? This may be a way to fix our problem if we
> > > have the time, and if we don't have a second box or a network of some kind
> > > to do it any other way. Just wondering how easy this method would
> > > actually be to try.
> > >
> > > Lorenzo
> > >
> > > E Pluribus Unix
> > >
> > > Nick Gawronski staggered into view and mumbled:
> > >
> > > > Hi, What if I only have one box, How can I upgrade to redhat 9 with
> > > > speakup? Will I need to re compile my kernel or what? bye On Tue, 15 Apr
> > > > 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:02:35PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > > It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with a text installation. Of course, you can't switch \consoles.
> > > > >
> > > > > I never got around to having the time to install and try out redhat, but why would that be strange? For all intents and purpose\s, it's as if you were sitting at the machine, and running speakup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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* Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
` Janina Sajka
` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I neglected to mention that Bill has posted rpms of the latest Red Hat 9 kernel, 2.4.20-9, patched with Speakup. So, if you can get RH installed, at least you won't
have to patch and compile a kernel to get your installation talking. Additional support is under investigation.
Let's put it this way, the Speakup Modified Red Hat Distribution is back, sort of. See:
http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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* RE: redhat linux 9 and speakup
@ mo.valli
0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: mo.valli @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
How can it be installed via telnet?
Kind regards
Mo.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas D. Ward [mailto:tward1978@earthlink.net]
Sent: 15 April 2003 02:43
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
Hi, Red Hat 9.0 doesn't have speakup in it. That is the problem, and one of
the major discussions as of late.
There alternative ways of installing RH such as a kickstart installation, or
a telnet installation if you have the stuff to do it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> Hi, I have downloaded redhat linux 9 and I can't get the speakup
> screen reader to start up when I boot in to the installation boot disk.
> When I installed version 8 it worked just fine but I get no speech now
> when I try to install or upgrade redhat. What is going on? bye
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* redhat linux 9 and speakup
@ mo.valli
` Thomas D. Ward
0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: mo.valli @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
Can someone please elaborate on performing a redhat installation via using
telnet? I don't fully follow the instruction below.
Kind regards
Mo.
-----Original Message-----
From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net]
Sent: 16 April 2003 03:03
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
I have installed RH9 a couple of times using telnet. Thomas' instructions
are essentially correct, but ping the broadcast address to see what address
dhcp assigned.
It seems strange, but you do get exactly the same screens that you get with
a text installation. Of course, you can't switch consoles.
Thomas D. Ward writes:
> From: "Thomas D. Ward" <tward1978@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi, if you have a personal networkyou can put the RH cd in the drive start
> up, and do a:
> linux text telnet
> At the boot prompt.
> Assuming your nic is supported it will grab a ip from the dhcp server, and
> you will have to ping around and find the ip it has taken.
> Then, with the other box you can telnet to the box, and read the setup.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
>
>
> > Hi, How can I do a telnet upgrade? bye On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Thomas D.
> > Ward wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Red Hat 9.0 doesn't have speakup in it. That is the problem, and
one
> of
> > > the major discussions as of late.
> > > There alternative ways of installing RH such as a kickstart
> installation, or
> > > a telnet installation if you have the stuff to do it.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Nick Gawronski <nick@nickgawronski.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:17 PM
> > > Subject: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi, I have downloaded redhat linux 9 and I can't get the
speakup
> > > > screen reader to start up when I boot in to the installation boot
> disk.
> > > > When I installed version 8 it worked just fine but I get no speech
now
> > > > when I try to install or upgrade redhat. What is going on? bye
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
mo.valli
@ ` Thomas D. Ward
` Lorenzo Prince
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi. I'll try and break this down into as simple terms as possible.
1. we will assume your Linux system is on some sort of network weather it is
home based, or one at a company.
As such it should have a network card in it which is known to work with Red
Hat out of the box. I know of Linksys and Realtech cards which are vary good
for telnet style installs.
2. You would insert the Red Hat cdrom and at the boot prompt you would tell
it something like:
linux text telnet
3. Assuming your box can get a broadcast address, and the nic is compatible
you can go to another computer on the network, and bring up a telnet cliant,
and specify the address of the RH box.
If you are in Linux speakup, and the Linux telnet client works great.
However, if the other box has windows then I suggest using terraterm Pro and
something like Jaws or Window Eyes to read the setup prompts.
4. If your telnet client connects ok to the box with RH installation, and
then it should come up on your screen, and you can use the remote box to
read the install prompts.
If you don'
If you don't have at least two computers on some sort of network and then
the telnet install won't work for you. Same is true if you connected two
computers via the serial ports. If you don't have two computers you won't be
able to do the install.
Then, your only options is to try a kickstart installation, or get sighted
help.
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` Thomas D. Ward
@ ` Lorenzo Prince
` Janina Sajka
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
But how can I get the address of the RH box? I am on a home network where
the RH box would be 192.168.0.2. But I had to configure that address.
Does the RH installation CD allow me to configure this before install?
Thanks,
Lorenzo
E Pluribus Unix
Thomas D. Ward staggered into view and mumbled:
> Hi. I'll try and break this down into as simple terms as possible.
>
> 1. we will assume your Linux system is on some sort of network weather it is
> home based, or one at a company.
> As such it should have a network card in it which is known to work with Red
> Hat out of the box. I know of Linksys and Realtech cards which are vary good
> for telnet style installs.
> 2. You would insert the Red Hat cdrom and at the boot prompt you would tell
> it something like:
> linux text telnet
> 3. Assuming your box can get a broadcast address, and the nic is compatible
> you can go to another computer on the network, and bring up a telnet cliant,
> and specify the address of the RH box.
> If you are in Linux speakup, and the Linux telnet client works great.
> However, if the other box has windows then I suggest using terraterm Pro and
> something like Jaws or Window Eyes to read the setup prompts.
> 4. If your telnet client connects ok to the box with RH installation, and
> then it should come up on your screen, and you can use the remote box to
> read the install prompts.
> If you don'
> If you don't have at least two computers on some sort of network and then
> the telnet install won't work for you. Same is true if you connected two
> computers via the serial ports. If you don't have two computers you won't be
> able to do the install.
> Then, your only options is to try a kickstart installation, or get sighted
> help.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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` Lorenzo Prince
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Lorenzo Prince
0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Ping the broadcast address of your network. An example of how to do this on Linux is:
ifcfg eth0
There are many other ways to get this information, of course. Once you know the broadcast address used on your network, you can ping it. On Red Hat type
systems, do:
ping -b [address]
On Debian, do:
ping [address]
Example:
ping -b 192.168.100.255
You might want to limit this, so you don't get flooded with too much data on screen:
Example:
ping -c 4 -b 192.168.100.255
says "ping the broadcast address 4 times."
On each of those four pings, you'll get a response from each machine that's listening on that address--every machine on the network. It's your job, at
that point, to know which one is the new one that wasn't there before. That's the address you telnet to.
Lorenzo Prince writes:
> From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
>
> But how can I get the address of the RH box? I am on a home network where
> the RH box would be 192.168.0.2. But I had to configure that address.
> Does the RH installation CD allow me to configure this before install?
>
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
> Thomas D. Ward staggered into view and mumbled:
>
> > Hi. I'll try and break this down into as simple terms as possible.
> >
> > 1. we will assume your Linux system is on some sort of network weather it is
> > home based, or one at a company.
> > As such it should have a network card in it which is known to work with Red
> > Hat out of the box. I know of Linksys and Realtech cards which are vary good
> > for telnet style installs.
> > 2. You would insert the Red Hat cdrom and at the boot prompt you would tell
> > it something like:
> > linux text telnet
> > 3. Assuming your box can get a broadcast address, and the nic is compatible
> > you can go to another computer on the network, and bring up a telnet cliant,
> > and specify the address of the RH box.
> > If you are in Linux speakup, and the Linux telnet client works great.
> > However, if the other box has windows then I suggest using terraterm Pro and
> > something like Jaws or Window Eyes to read the setup prompts.
> > 4. If your telnet client connects ok to the box with RH installation, and
> > then it should come up on your screen, and you can use the remote box to
> > read the install prompts.
> > If you don'
> > If you don't have at least two computers on some sort of network and then
> > the telnet install won't work for you. Same is true if you connected two
> > computers via the serial ports. If you don't have two computers you won't be
> > able to do the install.
> > Then, your only options is to try a kickstart installation, or get sighted
> > help.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Lorenzo Prince
` Thomas D. Ward
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
You mentioned a boot into RH from a floppy disk. Unfortunately, I am
using a laptop with no floppy drive. Is it possible to do this telnet
install from the CD alone with no floppies?
Thanks,
Lorenzo
E Pluribus Unix
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` Lorenzo Prince
@ ` Thomas D. Ward
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Yes it is. I also recommend doing it from the cdrom.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
> You mentioned a boot into RH from a floppy disk. Unfortunately, I am
> using a laptop with no floppy drive. Is it possible to do this telnet
> install from the CD alone with no floppies?
>
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Lorenzo Prince
` Thomas D. Ward
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Lorenzo Prince
1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
How about a CD ROM drive. Do you have one of those?
Lorenzo Prince writes:
> From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
>
> You mentioned a boot into RH from a floppy disk. Unfortunately, I am
> using a laptop with no floppy drive. Is it possible to do this telnet
> install from the CD alone with no floppies?
>
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Lorenzo Prince
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I do actually have a DVD/CD-RW combo drive. Are the network drivers I
need accessable from the CD-ROM? What steps would I take to load these
extra drivers from the CD-ROM without having to use a boot floppy or
driver floppy?
Thanks,
Lorenzo
E Pluribus Unix
Janina Sajka staggered into view and mumbled:
> How about a CD ROM drive. Do you have one of those?
>
> Lorenzo Prince writes:
> > From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
> >
> > You mentioned a boot into RH from a floppy disk. Unfortunately, I am
> > using a laptop with no floppy drive. Is it possible to do this telnet
> > install from the CD alone with no floppies?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > E Pluribus Unix
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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` Lorenzo Prince
@ ` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
If you can boot from this drive, then you can install using telnet. You would use the same command, though I believe you don't specify 'dd' to indicate a second disk.
So, it should just be:
text telnet
and you're off to an installation.
Beware, though. I'm speculating about the steps and extrapolating from my experience with floppy boots. I would expect you will not get a prompt for a second
floppy--that wouldn't make sense. But, I do expect you'll get that screen where you need to tab once before pressing enter. I'm sorry, I didn't document what that
screen was. I had no sighted assistance around. I just guessed it might be something like that and tried it. Until that step, the box did not show up on my lan.
Lorenzo Prince writes:
> From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
>
> I do actually have a DVD/CD-RW combo drive. Are the network drivers I
> need accessable from the CD-ROM? What steps would I take to load these
> extra drivers from the CD-ROM without having to use a boot floppy or
> driver floppy?
>
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
> Janina Sajka staggered into view and mumbled:
>
> > How about a CD ROM drive. Do you have one of those?
> >
> > Lorenzo Prince writes:
> > > From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
> > >
> > > You mentioned a boot into RH from a floppy disk. Unfortunately, I am
> > > using a laptop with no floppy drive. Is it possible to do this telnet
> > > install from the CD alone with no floppies?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lorenzo
> > >
> > > E Pluribus Unix
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
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* Re: redhat linux 9 and speakup
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This is basically correct, but there are some gotchyas. I will not claim to know them all, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's very straight forward with a
single disk.
I used two disks, perhaps because there's now a disk of network drivers separate from the boot floppy, and I didn't take the time to figure out whether
some net drivers were in the boot floppy.
Of course, there's no speech when you boot the first floppy, so these gotchya's are important.
At the first pause of disk spinning I typed:
text dd telnet
That says "I want a text installation," " I have a second driver disk I want to use," and "I want to install using telnet"
You could, of course, put this in the syslinux.cfg file using any editor, even m$ notepad.
The disk will spin for a long time. when it stoped, I put the second disk in. I press enter twice.
The second disk spins for awhile, and here's the gotchya:
tab once then press enter.
Now, you can go to the second machine, discover the dhcp address of the machine on which you're installing Linux, and telnet to it.
Thomas D. Ward writes:
> From: "Thomas D. Ward" <tward1978@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi. I'll try and break this down into as simple terms as possible.
>
> 1. we will assume your Linux system is on some sort of network weather it is
> home based, or one at a company.
> As such it should have a network card in it which is known to work with Red
> Hat out of the box. I know of Linksys and Realtech cards which are vary good
> for telnet style installs.
> 2. You would insert the Red Hat cdrom and at the boot prompt you would tell
> it something like:
> linux text telnet
> 3. Assuming your box can get a broadcast address, and the nic is compatible
> you can go to another computer on the network, and bring up a telnet cliant,
> and specify the address of the RH box.
> If you are in Linux speakup, and the Linux telnet client works great.
> However, if the other box has windows then I suggest using terraterm Pro and
> something like Jaws or Window Eyes to read the setup prompts.
> 4. If your telnet client connects ok to the box with RH installation, and
> then it should come up on your screen, and you can use the remote box to
> read the install prompts.
> If you don'
> If you don't have at least two computers on some sort of network and then
> the telnet install won't work for you. Same is true if you connected two
> computers via the serial ports. If you don't have two computers you won't be
> able to do the install.
> Then, your only options is to try a kickstart installation, or get sighted
> help.
>
>
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