* reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf)
@ Chuck Hallenbeck
` Samuel Thibault
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this
issue.
A long time ago I installed X, but never managed to make it run on this
new system, using an Intel 945G motherboard. The video section could
not be made to work. I let it go without pursuing the problem at that
time.
But now I want to try reconfiguring it, and every way I can think of to
try reconfiguring will only ask me trivial questions, none of which
deal with the details of the video configuration, as it did on the
first installation. What I have tried, essentially, is this:
dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
I have tried other priorities too, besides high, but am only asked
about using a frame buffer, yes or no, and a half dozen questions
about my keyboard. That's it.
What must I do to start this puppy over again?
Thanks,
Chuck
--
The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full)
My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022.
--------
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Gaijin ` John Heim 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Chuck Hallenbeck, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:24:54 -0400, a écrit : > What must I do to start this puppy over again? Provide the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Samuel Thibault 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Samuel, On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 02:31:31PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Provide the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log > I put it here: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net/xorg.log Thanks, Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Chuck Hallenbeck, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:51:39 -0400, a écrit : > Hi Samuel, > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 02:31:31PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Provide the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > > I put it here: > > http://hallenbeck.ftml.net/xorg.log (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected (EE) intel(0): No valid modes. It looks like the driver doesn't like that no actual screen is connected. You should probably send this log to xorg@freedesktop.org and see with them. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Samuel Thibault ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Okay. I'll do that., On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:00:51PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Chuck Hallenbeck, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:51:39 -0400, a écrit : > > Hi Samuel, > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 02:31:31PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > > Provide the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > > > > > I put it here: > > > > http://hallenbeck.ftml.net/xorg.log > > (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected > (EE) intel(0): No valid modes. > > It looks like the driver doesn't like that no actual screen is > connected. You should probably send this log to xorg@freedesktop.org > and see with them. > > Samuel > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` (2 more replies) ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Samuel Thibault, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 15:00:51 +0100, a écrit : > Chuck Hallenbeck, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:51:39 -0400, a écrit : > > Hi Samuel, > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 02:31:31PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > > Provide the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > > > > > I put it here: > > > > http://hallenbeck.ftml.net/xorg.log > > (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected > (EE) intel(0): No valid modes. > > It looks like the driver doesn't like that no actual screen is > connected. You should probably send this log to xorg@freedesktop.org > and see with them. Or alternatively, if you really do not need any output, use the xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` John covici ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Samuel, On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:08:23PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Samuel Thibault, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 15:00:51 +0100, a écrit : > > Or alternatively, if you really do not need any output, use the > xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver. > My mail to freedesktop was rejected, I am not authorized to post there. I guess I have to join the list first. However, I really have no need whatever for video, this system does not even have a monitor attached. So how do I ask for the xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver if I cannot make dpkg-reconfigure work for me? Can it be added by hand to xorg.conf? If so, where? Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` John covici ` Tyler Spivey ` Janina Sajka ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: John covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. hmm, I keep my monitor off all the time and have no such problems -- maybe he needs to specify some reasonable horizontal and vertical refresh rates or something. on Wednesday 07/30/2008 Samuel Thibault(samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org) wrote > Samuel Thibault, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 15:00:51 +0100, a écrit : > > Chuck Hallenbeck, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:51:39 -0400, a écrit : > > > Hi Samuel, > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 02:31:31PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > > > > Provide the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > > > > > > > > I put it here: > > > > > > http://hallenbeck.ftml.net/xorg.log > > > > (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected > > (EE) intel(0): No valid modes. > > > > It looks like the driver doesn't like that no actual screen is > > connected. You should probably send this log to xorg@freedesktop.org > > and see with them. > > Or alternatively, if you really do not need any output, use the > xserver-xorg-video-dummy driver. > > Samuel > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` John covici @ ` Tyler Spivey ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Tyler Spivey @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What happens if you configure X the manual way, that is: X -configure cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf #back it up first if you want That's how I've always done it, and it's worked for me. YMMV. - - Tyler -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiQf5IACgkQTsjaYASMWKSOIgCghY73F1/vY2UhcsyKB0rw2GUK uJQAn3SHN4Sb3u21hccK+uarlLtOiHzJ =vMLu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Tyler Spivey @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Tyler, Thanks for the suggestion, but I get essentially the same error when run with the xorg.conf generated that way. The logs are not identical, but they both end with a failure to find a usable screen. Chuck On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 07:49:54AM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > What happens if you configure X the manual way, that is: > X -configure > cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf #back it up first if you want > That's how I've always done it, and it's worked for me. YMMV. > - - Tyler > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkiQf5IACgkQTsjaYASMWKSOIgCghY73F1/vY2UhcsyKB0rw2GUK > uJQAn3SHN4Sb3u21hccK+uarlLtOiHzJ > =vMLu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` John covici ` Tyler Spivey @ ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. John covici writes: > hmm, I keep my monitor off all the time and have no such problems -- > maybe he needs to specify some reasonable horizontal and vertical > refresh rates or something. > In my case it seems to have to do with the VGA connection being present. Janina ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` John covici @ ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. So, the bug should probably recommend that the dummy driver be used (or offered for use) when an actual monitor isn't found. Certainly, it should error out so mysteriously for such a prosaic reason. Janina ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Janina Sajka ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Samuel Thibault writes: > > (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected > (EE) intel(0): No valid modes. > > It looks like the driver doesn't like that no actual screen is > connected. You should probably send this log to xorg@freedesktop.org > and see with them. I can verify this. Xorg has a builtin assumption of an actual monitor. Of course it shouldn't, but I guess some concepts are foreign to some developers. I mean, who would run X without a monitor? <grin> Janina ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Janina Sajka @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Chuck Hallenbeck 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Janina Sajka, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 11:13:53 -0400, a écrit : > Samuel Thibault writes: > > (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected > > (EE) intel(0): No valid modes. > > > > It looks like the driver doesn't like that no actual screen is > > connected. You should probably send this log to xorg@freedesktop.org > > and see with them. > I can verify this. Xorg has a builtin assumption of an actual monitor. > Of course it shouldn't, but I guess some concepts are foreign to some > developers. I mean, who would run X without a monitor? <grin> The debian xulrunner testsuite does for instance, by using Xvfb as I suggested later. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Janina Sajka ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Samuel Thibault 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. AXAPITA! (ain't X a PITA) Thanks. Sounds like perhaps a simple solution. Now all I need is a monitor. Chuck On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:13:53AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > > > (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected > > (EE) intel(0): No valid modes. > > > > It looks like the driver doesn't like that no actual screen is > > connected. You should probably send this log to xorg@freedesktop.org > > and see with them. > I can verify this. Xorg has a builtin assumption of an actual monitor. > Of course it shouldn't, but I guess some concepts are foreign to some > developers. I mean, who would run X without a monitor? <grin> > > Janina > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Samuel Thibault 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Chuck Hallenbeck, le Wed 30 Jul 2008 11:28:11 -0400, a écrit : > Thanks. Sounds like perhaps a simple solution. Now all I need is a > monitor. Or to use the dummy driver, or to throw some hand vertical & horizontal refresh rates, as suggested on the list. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) Chuck Hallenbeck ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Gaijin ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` John Heim 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Gaijin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 09:24:54AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this > issue. # dpkg-reconfigure desktop ...is the command you probably want. The "desktop" package was installed via the 'tasksel' program during the installation, and should be what you're looking for. run 'tasksel --list-tasks' for more info on packages that were installed during installation, and don't run the "new installation" option if you don't want your kernel removed. <winks> michael ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Gaijin @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Gaijin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Here's what that gives: cq:~# dpkg-reconfigure desktop Package `desktop' is not installed and no info is available. Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: desktop is not installed cq:~# aptitude show desktop E: Unable to locate package desktop cq:~# The real problem seems to be the absence of anything plugged into the video socket on my back panel. This is a Debian Sid installation, 2.6.24 kernel. Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Gaijin ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Gaijin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 06:41:55PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > Here's what that gives: > Package `desktop' is not installed and no info is available. Alright. After a 'dpkg -l | grep "desktop"', I get a new package mentioned...desktop-base. You can try: # dpkg-reconfigure desktop-base ...and see if you get the real configuration screen to come back up. debconf controls so much in debian, it's hard to tweak most things without breaking something, or having your configs over-written these days.. I'm thinking of going to LFS and stripping everything back down to bedrock linux. Michael ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Gaijin @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Michael, Thanks for your ideas, but to return to my original problem, it is the xserver-xorg base that does not run for me. It has nothing to do with a desktop. Every desktop will require a running X to be present first, and that is what I cannot make happen here. Others have commented on this, and it seems that xorg insists on a physical monitor connected to the system in order to be configured. I have no monitor. Well, okay, I do, but it is not convenient to connect it to this boxat the moment. I have too much to lose here by following leads that do not seem relevant to my primary issue. At the moment I'm pursuing Samuel's suggestion about xvfb and the xvfb-run script, which appear more promising. Once X is running, I'll worry about configuring a desktop. Chuck On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 04:24:15PM -0700, Gaijin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 06:41:55PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > Here's what that gives: > > Package `desktop' is not installed and no info is available. > > Alright. After a 'dpkg -l | grep "desktop"', I get a new > package mentioned...desktop-base. You can try: > > # dpkg-reconfigure desktop-base > > ...and see if you get the real configuration screen to come back up. > debconf controls so much in debian, it's hard to tweak most things > without breaking something, or having your configs over-written these > days.. I'm thinking of going to LFS and stripping everything back down > to bedrock linux. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) Chuck Hallenbeck ` Samuel Thibault ` Gaijin @ ` John Heim ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Terry D. Cudney 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. This is just a guess but i think you need to reconfigure debconf. Maybe you have it configured to ask only mmedium questions. # dpkg-reconfigure debconf <select low priority> # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) > Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this > issue. > > A long time ago I installed X, but never managed to make it run on this > new system, using an Intel 945G motherboard. The video section could > not be made to work. I let it go without pursuing the problem at that > time. > > But now I want to try reconfiguring it, and every way I can think of to > try reconfiguring will only ask me trivial questions, none of which > deal with the details of the video configuration, as it did on the > first installation. What I have tried, essentially, is this: > > dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg > > I have tried other priorities too, besides high, but am only asked > about using a frame buffer, yes or no, and a half dozen questions > about my keyboard. That's it. > > What must I do to start this puppy over again? > > Thanks, > Chuck > > -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. > -------- > It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` John Heim @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` John covici ` Terry D. Cudney 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, John. I selected low priority for debconf, and also readline, but reconfiguring xserver-xorg produced the same short list of questions, nothing about video or monitors. I think the consensus has developed that the absence of a physical monitor connected to my system is the key. I haven't had a chance to test that yet, the only monitor here is on my wife's computer, and that's off limits <smile> Chuck On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM -0500, John Heim wrote: > This is just a guess but i think you need to reconfigure debconf. Maybe > you have it configured to ask only mmedium questions. > > # dpkg-reconfigure debconf > <select low priority> > # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:24 AM > Subject: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) > > >> Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this >> issue. >> >> A long time ago I installed X, but never managed to make it run on this >> new system, using an Intel 945G motherboard. The video section could >> not be made to work. I let it go without pursuing the problem at that >> time. >> >> But now I want to try reconfiguring it, and every way I can think of to >> try reconfiguring will only ask me trivial questions, none of which >> deal with the details of the video configuration, as it did on the >> first installation. What I have tried, essentially, is this: >> >> dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg >> >> I have tried other priorities too, besides high, but am only asked >> about using a frame buffer, yes or no, and a half dozen questions >> about my keyboard. That's it. >> >> What must I do to start this puppy over again? >> >> Thanks, >> Chuck >> >> -- >> The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) >> >> My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. >> -------- >> It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is New My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` John covici 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: John covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It usually asks you what kind of monitor and if you select advanced somewhere you can select the horizontal and vertical refresh rates. I suppose you could do it by hand as well. I can't imagine why those questions are not asked, debconf hasno idea whether you have a monitor or not. on Thursday 07/31/2008 Chuck Hallenbeck(chuckh@ftml.net) wrote > Hi, John. > > I selected low priority for debconf, and also readline, but > reconfiguring xserver-xorg produced the same short list of questions, > nothing about video or monitors. I think the consensus has developed > that the absence of a physical monitor connected to my system is the > key. I haven't had a chance to test that yet, the only monitor here is > on my wife's computer, and that's off limits <smile> > > Chuck > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM -0500, John Heim wrote: > > This is just a guess but i think you need to reconfigure debconf. Maybe > > you have it configured to ask only mmedium questions. > > > > # dpkg-reconfigure debconf > > <select low priority> > > # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:24 AM > > Subject: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) > > > > > >> Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this > >> issue. > >> > >> A long time ago I installed X, but never managed to make it run on this > >> new system, using an Intel 945G motherboard. The video section could > >> not be made to work. I let it go without pursuing the problem at that > >> time. > >> > >> But now I want to try reconfiguring it, and every way I can think of to > >> try reconfiguring will only ask me trivial questions, none of which > >> deal with the details of the video configuration, as it did on the > >> first installation. What I have tried, essentially, is this: > >> > >> dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg > >> > >> I have tried other priorities too, besides high, but am only asked > >> about using a frame buffer, yes or no, and a half dozen questions > >> about my keyboard. That's it. > >> > >> What must I do to start this puppy over again? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Chuck > >> > >> -- > >> The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) > >> > >> My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. > >> -------- > >> It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > The Moon is New > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. > -------- > It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` John Heim ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` Chuck Hallenbeck 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Chuck, John and everyone interested in this thread, Just wondering, Chuck, did you find a solution to your problem? I have a similar problem here, except that I have a monitor connected. After the initial installation of Debian Sid (now kernel v 2.6.26) the xserver/gdm/gnome/etcetera all worked fine. After a "aptitude sae-upgrade", the xserver was updated and has not worked since. On examining the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, it appears that the definition for my monitor is missing/incorrect. On initial installation, and on other systems, it identifies my monitorcorrectly, a Sony GDM-500ps. Now this Debian sid system has: X.Org X Server 1.4.2 Release Date: 11 June 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, as suggested, with low priority enabled, but it only askes for input re keyboard, nothing about the monitor or mouse. I have also installed the 'xdebconfigurator' package that should update the configuration on reboot, but no joy. If you have found a solution, could you please share it? TIA, --terry On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM -0500, John Heim wrote: > This is just a guess but i think you need to reconfigure debconf. Maybe you > have it configured to ask only mmedium questions. > > # dpkg-reconfigure debconf > <select low priority> > # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:24 AM > Subject: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) > > > >Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this > >issue. > > > >A long time ago I installed X, but never managed to make it run on this > >new system, using an Intel 945G motherboard. The video section could > >not be made to work. I let it go without pursuing the problem at that > >time. > > > >But now I want to try reconfiguring it, and every way I can think of to > >try reconfiguring will only ask me trivial questions, none of which > >deal with the details of the video configuration, as it did on the > >first installation. What I have tried, essentially, is this: > > > >dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg > > > >I have tried other priorities too, besides high, but am only asked > >about using a frame buffer, yes or no, and a half dozen questions > >about my keyboard. That's it. > > > >What must I do to start this puppy over again? > > > >Thanks, > >Chuck > > > >-- > >The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) > > > >My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. > > -------- > >It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 705-812-4949 E-mail: terry@octothorp.org Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` luke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, Terry, That's interesting. I have put the problem on a back burner for now, and have nothing new to report. I played a bit with xvfb but then other problems came along requiring my attention, so the xorg.conf issue was put aside. I have dropped off the Debian user list due to excessive traffic, so I don't know what the chatter is about this issue. Chuck On Sat , Aug 02, 2008 at 12:34:57PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > Hi Chuck, John and everyone interested in this thread, > > Just wondering, Chuck, did you find a solution to your problem? > > I have a similar problem here, except that I have a monitor connected. After the initial installation of Debian Sid (now kernel v 2.6.26) the xserver/gdm/gnome/etcetera all worked fine. After a "aptitude sae-upgrade", the xserver was updated and has not worked since. > > On examining the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, it appears that the definition for my monitor is missing/incorrect. > On initial installation, and on other systems, it identifies my monitorcorrectly, a Sony GDM-500ps. > > Now this Debian sid system has: > X.Org X Server 1.4.2 > Release Date: 11 June 2008 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > > I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, as suggested, with low priority enabled, but it only askes for input re keyboard, nothing about the monitor or mouse. > > I have also installed the 'xdebconfigurator' package that should update the configuration on reboot, but no joy. > > If you have found a solution, could you please share it? > > TIA, > > --terry > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM -0500, John Heim wrote: > > This is just a guess but i think you need to reconfigure debconf. Maybe you > > have it configured to ask only mmedium questions. > > > > # dpkg-reconfigure debconf > > <select low priority> > > # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:24 AM > > Subject: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) > > > > > > >Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this > > >issue. > > > > > >A long time ago I installed X, but never managed to make it run on this > > >new system, using an Intel 945G motherboard. The video section could > > >not be made to work. I let it go without pursuing the problem at that > > >time. > > > > > >But now I want to try reconfiguring it, and every way I can think of to > > >try reconfiguring will only ask me trivial questions, none of which > > >deal with the details of the video configuration, as it did on the > > >first installation. What I have tried, essentially, is this: > > > > > >dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg > > > > > >I have tried other priorities too, besides high, but am only asked > > >about using a frame buffer, yes or no, and a half dozen questions > > >about my keyboard. That's it. > > > > > >What must I do to start this puppy over again? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Chuck > > > > > >-- > > >The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) > > > > > >My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. > > > -------- > > >It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Name: Terry D. Cudney > Phone: 705-812-4949 > E-mail: terry@octothorp.org > > Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... > having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. > > Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- A person is just about as big as the things that make them angry. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` luke 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: luke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Why not try the dummy video driver? Or did you? On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > Hi, Terry, > > That's interesting. I have put the problem on a back burner for now, > and have nothing new to report. I played a bit with xvfb but then other > problems came along requiring my attention, so the xorg.conf issue was > put aside. I have dropped off the Debian user list due to excessive > traffic, so I don't know what the chatter is about this issue. > > Chuck > > > On Sat > > , Aug 02, 2008 at 12:34:57PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > > Hi Chuck, John and everyone interested in this thread, > > > > Just wondering, Chuck, did you find a solution to your problem? > > > > I have a similar problem here, except that I have a monitor connected. After the initial installation of Debian Sid (now kernel v 2.6.26) the xserver/gdm/gnome/etcetera all worked fine. After a "aptitude sae-upgrade", the xserver was updated and has not worked since. > > > > On examining the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, it appears that the definition for my monitor is missing/incorrect. > > On initial installation, and on other systems, it identifies my monitorcorrectly, a Sony GDM-500ps. > > > > Now this Debian sid system has: > > X.Org X Server 1.4.2 > > Release Date: 11 June 2008 > > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > > > > I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, as suggested, with low priority enabled, but it only askes for input re keyboard, nothing about the monitor or mouse. > > > > I have also installed the 'xdebconfigurator' package that should update the configuration on reboot, but no joy. > > > > If you have found a solution, could you please share it? > > > > TIA, > > > > --terry > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM -0500, John Heim wrote: > > > This is just a guess but i think you need to reconfigure debconf. Maybe you > > > have it configured to ask only mmedium questions. > > > > > > # dpkg-reconfigure debconf > > > <select low priority> > > > # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> > > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:24 AM > > > Subject: reconfiguring xserver-xorg (xorg.conf) > > > > > > > > > >Okay, I give up! I would appreciate a tip or two from someone on this > > > >issue. > > > > > > > >A long time ago I installed X, but never managed to make it run on this > > > >new system, using an Intel 945G motherboard. The video section could > > > >not be made to work. I let it go without pursuing the problem at that > > > >time. > > > > > > > >But now I want to try reconfiguring it, and every way I can think of to > > > >try reconfiguring will only ask me trivial questions, none of which > > > >deal with the details of the video configuration, as it did on the > > > >first installation. What I have tried, essentially, is this: > > > > > > > >dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg > > > > > > > >I have tried other priorities too, besides high, but am only asked > > > >about using a frame buffer, yes or no, and a half dozen questions > > > >about my keyboard. That's it. > > > > > > > >What must I do to start this puppy over again? > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Chuck > > > > > > > >-- > > > >The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) > > > > > > > >My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net and my cell phone: 1-518-334-9022. > > > > -------- > > > >It is impossible for an optimist to be pleasantly surprised. > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > > > Name: Terry D. Cudney > > Phone: 705-812-4949 > > E-mail: terry@octothorp.org > > > > Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... > > having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. > > > > Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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