* drive assignments @ Glenn Ervin ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Glenn Ervin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux - speakup also, how can I figure out what to assign to my drives? I have an 80gb harddrive. I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay. I think the removable drive is on an IDE controller card. Thanks. Sincerely, O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV Northeast Nebraska gervin@kdsi.net or My Work e-mail: gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: drive assignments drive assignments Glenn Ervin @ ` Steve Holmes ` Jason ` randy turner 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux - speakup For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the list and to our new our new friend here. First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing. All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler. /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not very familiar with SCSI protocols. The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1 points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that discussion for another thread. I hope this makes some sense to you. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote: > also, > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives? > I have an 80gb harddrive. > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay. I think > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card. > Thanks. > > > Sincerely, > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV > Northeast Nebraska > gervin@kdsi.net > or My Work e-mail: > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: drive assignments ` Steve Holmes @ ` Jason ` randy turner 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jason @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not > very familiar with SCSI protocols. > SCSI basically works the same way. The only difference is that the drives are "lettered" in the order they are detected, starting with controller 1, ID 0, LUN 0. So /dev/sda is the device with the lowest ID number on the first controller, regardless of the actual ID number. There is one caveat, the actual SCSI controller, while it has an ID number is not given a device node (though this may bi different if your kernel includes the "devfs" package. Also, as a feature, there are /dev/scd? devices, for CDROM, CD-R(W) and DVD drives on your SCSI busses, these are numbered in the order detected starting with 0, otherwise the same way hard drives are. These are in addition to, not in place of, the /dev/sd? entries. There are also "SCSI Generics" available, these are listed as /dev/sg?, and again, numbered in the order detected, atarting with 0 (seeing a pattern here?). SCSI generics include things such as SCSI-based scanners, CD-R and CD-RW drives and things such as that (yes, this can mean that a single CD drive will be listed three times if it's recordable, or twice if not). If anyone actually needed that information, I hope it helped, if not, I hope it was at least interesting ;-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: drive assignments ` Steve Holmes ` Jason @ ` randy turner ` Gregory Nowak ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: randy turner @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux - speakup hi, i would like to add that if you have a zip drive that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4 thanks randy On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote: > For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it > doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first > learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the > list and to our new our new friend here. > First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing. > All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or > /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go > with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually > begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part > here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE > controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler. > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not > very familiar with SCSI protocols. > > The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1 > points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so > forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for > swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so > big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that > discussion for another thread. > > I hope this makes some sense to you. > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote: > > > also, > > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives? > > I have an 80gb harddrive. > > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay. I think > > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card. > > Thanks. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV > > Northeast Nebraska > > gervin@kdsi.net > > or My Work e-mail: > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: drive assignments ` randy turner @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Amanda Lee [not found] ` <Pine.BSF.4.42.0111231021140.46967-100000@server1.shellworl d.net> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If the zip drive is internal, the mount point for it would be: /defv/hdx4 where x is a, b, c, and so on whereever your drive is. Greg On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:53:47PM +0000, randy turner wrote: > > > hi, > i would like to add that if you have a zip drive > that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4 > thanks > randy > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it > > doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first > > learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the > > list and to our new our new friend here. > > First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing. > > All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or > > /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go > > with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually > > begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part > > here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE > > controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler. > > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave > > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would > > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two > > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not > > very familiar with SCSI protocols. > > > > The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1 > > points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so > > forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for > > swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so > > big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that > > discussion for another thread. > > > > I hope this makes some sense to you. > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote: > > > > > also, > > > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives? > > > I have an 80gb harddrive. > > > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay. I think > > > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card. > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV > > > Northeast Nebraska > > > gervin@kdsi.net > > > or My Work e-mail: > > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: drive assignments ` randy turner ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Amanda Lee ` Jason ` Thomas Ward [not found] ` <Pine.BSF.4.42.0111231021140.46967-100000@server1.shellworl d.net> 2 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Amanda Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux - speakup Thanks as this Compaq 200MHZ box I may install Linux on has a zip drive and would like to archive items onto the zip cartridges prior to reformatting the drive. One question: can Linux read the format of a zip cartridge? Amanda Lee Alexandria, VA On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, randy turner wrote: > > > hi, > i would like to add that if you have a zip drive > that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4 > thanks > randy > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it > > doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first > > learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the > > list and to our new our new friend here. > > First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing. > > All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or > > /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go > > with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually > > begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part > > here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE > > controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler. > > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave > > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would > > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two > > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not > > very familiar with SCSI protocols. > > > > The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1 > > points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so > > forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for > > swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so > > big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that > > discussion for another thread. > > > > I hope this makes some sense to you. > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote: > > > > > also, > > > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives? > > > I have an 80gb harddrive. > > > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay. I think > > > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card. > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV > > > Northeast Nebraska > > > gervin@kdsi.net > > > or My Work e-mail: > > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: drive assignments ` Amanda Lee @ ` Jason ` Thomas Ward 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jason @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Friday November 23, 2001 08:23 am, you wrote: > Thanks as this Compaq 200MHZ box I may install Linux on has a zip drive > and would like to archive items onto the zip cartridges prior to > reformatting the drive. > > One question: can Linux read the format of a zip cartridge? short answer: yes long answer: there is no "zip cartrige" format. A zip drive is nothing mre than a standard disk drive in every way except for capacity and being removable, you can format a zip disk with any filesystem you want (even ext2) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: drive assignments ` Amanda Lee ` Jason @ ` Thomas Ward 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yes. I have an internal zip 100 in my computer, and the zip disks work fineright out of the box. Just make sure your zip drive works fine on your usb port, parallel port, or ide port depending on which type you have. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Lee" <amanda@shellworld.net> To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 10:23 AM Subject: Re: drive assignments > Thanks as this Compaq 200MHZ box I may install Linux on has a zip drive > and would like to archive items onto the zip cartridges prior to > reformatting the drive. > > One question: can Linux read the format of a zip cartridge? > > Amanda Lee > Alexandria, VA > > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, randy turner wrote: > > > > > > > hi, > > i would like to add that if you have a zip drive > > that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4 > > thanks > > randy > > > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > > > For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it > > > doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first > > > learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the > > > list and to our new our new friend here. > > > First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing. > > > All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or > > > /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go > > > with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually > > > begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part > > > here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE > > > controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler. > > > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave > > > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would > > > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two > > > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not > > > very familiar with SCSI protocols. > > > > > > The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1 > > > points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so > > > forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for > > > swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so > > > big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that > > > discussion for another thread. > > > > > > I hope this makes some sense to you. > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote: > > > > > > > also, > > > > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives? > > > > I have an 80gb harddrive. > > > > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay. I think > > > > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV > > > > Northeast Nebraska > > > > gervin@kdsi.net > > > > or My Work e-mail: > > > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: drive assignments [not found] ` <Pine.BSF.4.42.0111231021140.46967-100000@server1.shellworl d.net> @ ` Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello. Yes, I know that Linux can definitely read Zip drives. I do not know how and I think SCSI support must be compiled into the kernel. The point of zipslack is that it is a 100 mb Slackware distro designed to fit on a single Zip disk. I would guess you need to mount it as a special device type with the Win95 filesystem. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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