drive assignments

drive assignments

[Glenn Ervin]

also,
how can I figure out what to assign to my drives?
I have an 80gb harddrive.
I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay.  I think
the removable drive is on an IDE controller card.
Thanks.


Sincerely,
O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
Northeast Nebraska
gervin@kdsi.net
or My Work e-mail:
gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us

Re: drive assignments

[Steve Holmes]

For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it
doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first
learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the
list and to our new our new friend here.
First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing.
All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or
/sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go
with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually
begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part
here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE
controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler.
/hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave
drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would
hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two
drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not
very familiar with SCSI protocols.

The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1
points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so
forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for
swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so
big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that
discussion for another thread.

I hope this makes some sense to you.

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> also,
> how can I figure out what to assign to my drives?
> I have an 80gb harddrive.
> I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay.  I think
> the removable drive is on an IDE controller card.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> gervin@kdsi.net
> or My Work e-mail:
> gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
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Re: drive assignments

[Jason]

> /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave
> drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would
> hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two
> drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not
> very familiar with SCSI protocols.
>
SCSI basically works the same way. The only difference is that the drives are 
"lettered" in the order they are detected, starting with controller 1, ID 0, 
LUN 0. So /dev/sda is the device with the lowest ID number on the first 
controller, regardless of the actual ID number. There is one caveat, the 
actual SCSI controller, while it has an ID number is not given a device node 
(though this may bi different if your kernel includes the "devfs" package.

Also, as a feature, there are /dev/scd? devices, for CDROM, CD-R(W) and DVD 
drives on your SCSI busses, these are numbered in the order detected starting 
with 0, otherwise the same way hard drives are. These are in addition to, not 
in place of, the /dev/sd? entries. There are also "SCSI Generics" available, 
these are listed as /dev/sg?, and again, numbered in the order detected, 
atarting with 0 (seeing a pattern here?). SCSI generics include things such 
as SCSI-based scanners, CD-R and CD-RW drives and things such as that (yes, 
this can mean that a single CD drive will be listed three times if it's 
recordable, or twice if not).

If anyone actually needed that information, I hope it helped, if not, I hope 
it was at least interesting ;-)

Re: drive assignments

[randy turner]

hi,
i would like to add that if you have a zip drive
that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4
thanks
randy

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:

> For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it
> doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first
> learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the
> list and to our new our new friend here.
> First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing.
> All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or
> /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go
> with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually
> begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part
> here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE
> controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler.
> /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave
> drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would
> hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two
> drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not
> very familiar with SCSI protocols.
> 
> The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1
> points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so
> forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for
> swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so
> big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that
> discussion for another thread.
> 
> I hope this makes some sense to you.
> 
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote:
> 
> > also,
> > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives?
> > I have an 80gb harddrive.
> > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay.  I think
> > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> > Northeast Nebraska
> > gervin@kdsi.net
> > or My Work e-mail:
> > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: drive assignments

[Gregory Nowak]

If the zip drive is internal, the mount point for it would be:
/defv/hdx4 where x is a, b, c, and so on whereever your drive is.
Greg


On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:53:47PM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> 
> 
> hi,
> i would like to add that if you have a zip drive
> that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4
> thanks
> randy
> 
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
> > For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it
> > doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first
> > learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the
> > list and to our new our new friend here.
> > First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing.
> > All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or
> > /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go
> > with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually
> > begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part
> > here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE
> > controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler.
> > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave
> > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would
> > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two
> > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not
> > very familiar with SCSI protocols.
> > 
> > The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1
> > points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so
> > forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for
> > swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so
> > big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that
> > discussion for another thread.
> > 
> > I hope this makes some sense to you.
> > 
> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote:
> > 
> > > also,
> > > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives?
> > > I have an 80gb harddrive.
> > > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay.  I think
> > > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> > > Northeast Nebraska
> > > gervin@kdsi.net
> > > or My Work e-mail:
> > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: drive assignments

[Amanda Lee]

Thanks as this Compaq 200MHZ box I may install Linux on has a zip drive
and would like to archive items onto the zip cartridges prior to
reformatting the drive.

One question: can Linux read the format of a zip cartridge?

Amanda Lee
Alexandria, VA


On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, randy turner wrote:

>
>
> hi,
> i would like to add that if you have a zip drive
> that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4
> thanks
> randy
>
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
> > For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it
> > doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I first
> > learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the
> > list and to our new our new friend here.
> > First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows thing.
> > All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or
> > /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go
> > with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names actually
> > begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part
> > here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE
> > controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE controler.
> > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the slave
> > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would
> > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to two
> > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so not
> > very familiar with SCSI protocols.
> >
> > The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1
> > points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so
> > forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one for
> > swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is so
> > big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that
> > discussion for another thread.
> >
> > I hope this makes some sense to you.
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote:
> >
> > > also,
> > > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives?
> > > I have an 80gb harddrive.
> > > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay.  I think
> > > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> > > Northeast Nebraska
> > > gervin@kdsi.net
> > > or My Work e-mail:
> > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: drive assignments

[Jason]

On Friday November 23, 2001 08:23 am, you wrote:
> Thanks as this Compaq 200MHZ box I may install Linux on has a zip drive
> and would like to archive items onto the zip cartridges prior to
> reformatting the drive.
>
> One question: can Linux read the format of a zip cartridge?
short answer: yes
long answer: there is no "zip cartrige" format. A zip drive is nothing mre 
than a standard disk drive in every way except for capacity and being 
removable, you can format a zip disk with any filesystem you want (even ext2)

Re: drive assignments

[Tony Baechler]

Hello.  Yes, I know that Linux can definitely read Zip drives.  I do not 
know how and I think SCSI support must be compiled into the kernel.  The 
point of zipslack is that it is a 100 mb Slackware distro designed to fit 
on a single Zip disk.  I would guess you need to mount it as a special 
device type with the Win95 filesystem.

Re: drive assignments

[Thomas Ward]

Yes. I have an internal zip 100 in my computer, and the zip disks work
fineright out of the box.
Just make sure your zip drive works fine on your usb port, parallel port, or
ide port depending on which type you have.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda Lee" <amanda@shellworld.net>
To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: drive assignments


> Thanks as this Compaq 200MHZ box I may install Linux on has a zip drive
> and would like to archive items onto the zip cartridges prior to
> reformatting the drive.
>
> One question: can Linux read the format of a zip cartridge?
>
> Amanda Lee
> Alexandria, VA
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, randy turner wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hi,
> > i would like to add that if you have a zip drive
> > that the mount for it would be /dev/sda4
> > thanks
> > randy
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
> >
> > > For drive assignments, I need to explain the following and I hope it
> > > doesn't geet too deep too fast. I honestly can't remember where I
first
> > > learned this so that's why I figured to post this kind of stuff to the
> > > list and to our new our new friend here.
> > > First off, Linux doesn't use drive letters, that's a DOS/windows
thing.
> > > All drives in Linux begin with a path name like /hda1, /hdb2, /hdc1 or
> > > /sda1, /sdb1, etc. The /hd? names go with IDE drives and /sd? names go
> > > with SCSI type drives. I should say that all these drive names
actually
> > > begin with /dev/whatever but for brevity, I'll leave out the /dev part
> > > here; just lazy, I guess. /hda is the first drive on the first IDE
> > > controler. /hdb is the second or slave drive on the first IDE
controler.
> > > /hdc is primary drive on the second IDE controler, /hdd would be the
slave
> > > drive on the second controler. See the pattern? The same pattern would
> > > hold for SCSI drives however, I'm not sure if you would be limitted to
two
> > > drives per SCSI controler. I don't have any SCSI hard drives here so
not
> > > very familiar with SCSI protocols.
> > >
> > > The number corresponds to partitions on the current drive, hence /hda1
> > > points to the first logical partition and /hda2 is the second and so
> > > forth. Most linux systems would have a minimum of two partitions - one
for
> > > swap and one for the main file system. Since your 80gig hard drive is
so
> > > big, you might want to create several partitions but I'll leave that
> > > discussion for another thread.
> > >
> > > I hope this makes some sense to you.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Glenn Ervin wrote:
> > >
> > > > also,
> > > > how can I figure out what to assign to my drives?
> > > > I have an 80gb harddrive.
> > > > I have a r/w CD ROM, DVD, zip disk, and a removable harddrive bay.
I think
> > > > the removable drive is on an IDE controller card.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> > > > Northeast Nebraska
> > > > gervin@kdsi.net
> > > > or My Work e-mail:
> > > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > >
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