* locking up
@ Juan Hernandez
` Butch Bussen
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juan Hernandez @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hello, I don't know if any of you have seen this problem in the past, but here I go.
I ssh into my univercities server to work on it. if I leave the connection sit there for a while I'd say 5-8 minutes, it will lock up, I have to load up another console tty, and kill the ssh process that way. any ideas?
I am using fedora core 2, with kernal 2.6.8.1
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread* Re: locking up locking up Juan Hernandez @ ` Butch Bussen ` Janina Sajka ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 ` Janina Sajka ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 2 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Butch Bussen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I've just joined the list. I'm very new to Linux, although I've run a shell account for years. I recently put in a Linux box dedicated to ham radio and i r l p. Wondering what you folks use for an ssh connection. I have putty which sort of works, but seems to reprint the screen. I've downloaded and testing securecrt which seems to work fairly well, but they want $99 to register it and I think that is a little accessive. My nnext project is to put another fedora box on the network to learn on. I wasn't able to get the ham box installed at all with speech as I didn't know how and they supplied thier own cd with special scripts and so forth. Now that it is running, I can login on the network, that's why I'm looking for a good terminal or telnet program. 73s Butch Bussen wa0vjr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` Butch Bussen @ ` Janina Sajka ` Butch Bussen ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, Butch: Welcome to the list. You're not the only ham here, though I, myself, am not one--at least not in the sense you meant! <grin> As for what we use for ssh -- I'll let those who still terminal from Windows go at that in more depth for you. Suffice it to say that most of us are just using Linux directly, not from Windows. Any reason you couldn't just do that yourself? It's a far more compelling experience. Butch Bussen writes: > I've just joined the list. I'm very new to Linux, although I've run a > shell account for years. I recently put in a Linux box dedicated to ham > radio and i r l p. Wondering what you folks use for an ssh connection. I > have putty which sort of works, but seems to reprint the screen. I've > downloaded and testing securecrt which seems to work fairly well, but they > want $99 to register it and I think that is a little accessive. My nnext > project is to put another fedora box on the network to learn on. I wasn't > able to get the ham box installed at all with speech as I didn't know how > and they supplied thier own cd with special scripts and so forth. Now > that it is running, I can login on the network, that's why I'm looking for > a good terminal or telnet program. > 73s > Butch Bussen > wa0vjr > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` Janina Sajka @ ` Butch Bussen ` Gregory Nowak ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Butch Bussen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of breaking something that is working. f y i, i r l p is internet radio linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems and so forth together via the internet. All of the supporting software is done in Linux. Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end. It has some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware. I looked around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech. Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment. 73s Butch Bussen wa0vjr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` Butch Bussen @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi. Slackware's official cd-rom set comes with speakup already in it. If you look in the root directory of the first slackware cd-rom, you should see 2 files there called I believe speakup_docs.txt, and speak_install.txt. Hth. Greg On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 01:06:43PM -0700, Butch Bussen wrote: > Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but > this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of > breaking something that is working. f y i, i r l p is internet radio > linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems > and so forth together via the internet. All of the supporting software is > done in Linux. Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. > Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end. It has > some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing > all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware. I looked > around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech. > > Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment. > 73s > Butch Bussen > wa0vjr > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > !DSPAM:416450bb237486115415151! > > - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBZHqk7s9z/XlyUyARAuDWAKDGOZCNc3UtxmXfjr7NXhHNlH78AgCghV8h PSlGX+Tc0RTS26ngTrlWMC0= =cAOY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` Butch Bussen ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Janina Sajka ` debian speakup installation problems hank ` locking up Butch Bussen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But, perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could take you into a thicket--arguably. So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution: http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora We have a installation HOWTO there: http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is speech enabled with Speakup. One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you install one of the other distributions. Butch Bussen writes: > Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but > this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of > breaking something that is working. f y i, i r l p is internet radio > linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems > and so forth together via the internet. All of the supporting software is > done in Linux. Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. > Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end. It has > some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing > all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware. I looked > around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech. > > Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment. > 73s > Butch Bussen > wa0vjr > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* debian speakup installation problems ` Janina Sajka @ ` hank ` locking up Butch Bussen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: hank @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. hello I have the following system I am trying to get debian on. p4 2.4 ghz debian cd iso downloaded off of speakup site the sarge my 2 synthisizers I have access to is 1 echo pc external and 2 a keynote external synth think its keynote sa or something like that. when I type in linux speakup_synth=bnx for the echo supposively the echo works with drivers for bns the normal choose language screen comes up any ideas why the thing isn't working? thanks hank if you would like to talk to me directly you can click below to call me on skype!!! callto://hanksmith5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:14 PM Subject: Re: locking up > You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But, > perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could > take you into a thicket--arguably. > > So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at > the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution: > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora > > We have a installation HOWTO there: > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html > > > The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is > speech enabled with Speakup. > > One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no > installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you > install one of the other distributions. > > Butch Bussen writes: >> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but >> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of >> breaking something that is working. f y i, i r l p is internet radio >> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems >> and so forth together via the internet. All of the supporting software >> is >> done in Linux. Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. >> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end. It has >> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on >> blowing >> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware. I looked >> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech. >> >> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment. >> 73s >> Butch Bussen >> wa0vjr >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ---------------------------------------- My Inbox is protected by SPAMfighter 637 spam mails have been blocked so far. Download free www.spamfighter.com today! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` Janina Sajka ` debian speakup installation problems hank @ ` Butch Bussen ` Janina Sajka ` Richard Wells 1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Butch Bussen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'm not sure what you mean by having accessibility installed. If you mean speech, I don't. Are there other changes I could make to make the box more useable? One thing, for example, when I log in with my terminal program, I don't see a way to distinguish files from folders. I'm still looking for a terminal program if anyone has any ideas. Thanks for the urls, I'll give those a look, and for reasons mentioned in other posts, will likely go with fedora. 73s Butch Bussen wa0vjr On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Janina Sajka wrote: > You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But, > perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could > take you into a thicket--arguably. > > So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at > the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution: > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora > > We have a installation HOWTO there: > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html > > > The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is > speech enabled with Speakup. > > One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no > installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you > install one of the other distributions. > > Butch Bussen writes: >> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but >> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of >> breaking something that is working. f y i, i r l p is internet radio >> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems >> and so forth together via the internet. All of the supporting software is >> done in Linux. Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. >> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end. It has >> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing >> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware. I looked >> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech. >> >> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment. >> 73s >> Butch Bussen >> wa0vjr >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` locking up Butch Bussen @ ` Janina Sajka ` Richard Wells 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If you use speech, then your accessibility is speech. Were it braille, then that would be the drop in replacement, etc. In any case, here's a suggestion on how to distinguish files from directories (and other types of entries such as symbolic links): alias ls='ls -px -1' The -1 at the end gives you one entry per line. Take that off if you don't care about that. To learn more about what you can do with ls, and especially about how you can customize it to taste, do: man ls Butch Bussen writes: > > I'm not sure what you mean by having accessibility installed. If you mean > speech, I don't. Are there other changes I could make to make the box > more useable? One thing, for example, when I log in with my terminal > program, I don't see a way to distinguish files from folders. I'm still > looking for a terminal program if anyone has any ideas. Thanks for the > urls, I'll give those a look, and for reasons mentioned in other posts, > will likely go with fedora. > 73s > Butch Bussen > wa0vjr > > > > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Janina Sajka wrote: > > >You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But, > >perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could > >take you into a thicket--arguably. > > > >So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at > >the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution: > > > >http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora > > > >We have a installation HOWTO there: > > > >http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html > > > > > >The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is > >speech enabled with Speakup. > > > >One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no > >installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you > >install one of the other distributions. > > > >Butch Bussen writes: > >>Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but > >>this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of > >>breaking something that is working. f y i, i r l p is internet radio > >>linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems > >>and so forth together via the internet. All of the supporting software is > >>done in Linux. Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. > >>Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end. It has > >>some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing > >>all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware. I looked > >>around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech. > >> > >>Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment. > >>73s > >>Butch Bussen > >>wa0vjr > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Chair > > Accessibility Workgroup > > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > > >janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` locking up Butch Bussen ` Janina Sajka @ ` Richard Wells ` ssh clients for windows, was: " Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Richard Wells @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Butch, I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws that reads those well or a dos screen reader. Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal application or if you need help setting it up. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@shellworld.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: Re: locking up I'm not sure what you mean by having accessibility installed. If you mean speech, I don't. Are there other changes I could make to make the box more useable? One thing, for example, when I log in with my terminal program, I don't see a way to distinguish files from folders. I'm still looking for a terminal program if anyone has any ideas. Thanks for the urls, I'll give those a look, and for reasons mentioned in other posts, will likely go with fedora. 73s Butch Bussen wa0vjr On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Janina Sajka wrote: > You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But, > perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could > take you into a thicket--arguably. > > So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at > the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution: > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora > > We have a installation HOWTO there: > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html > > > The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is > speech enabled with Speakup. > > One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no > installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you > install one of the other distributions. > > Butch Bussen writes: >> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but >> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of >> breaking something that is working. f y i, i r l p is internet radio >> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems >> and so forth together via the internet. All of the supporting software >> is >> done in Linux. Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. >> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end. It has >> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on >> blowing >> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware. I looked >> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech. >> >> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment. >> 73s >> Butch Bussen >> wa0vjr >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up ` Richard Wells @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Richard Wells ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm, but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks. Greg On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote: > Hi Butch, > > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws > that reads those well or a dos screen reader. > > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal > application or if you need help setting it up. > > Thanks > - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBZXuH7s9z/XlyUyARAqI9AKCqMNfuaJfT8Zifi5u012A2X9dCzgCeJ+QG ksaH9vA/8RbV2gv1ztuf3Bo= =REWI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up ` ssh clients for windows, was: " Gregory Nowak @ ` Richard Wells ` Sean McMahon ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Richard Wells @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. ftp://bupster.cjb.net/pub/openssh34-3.zip But it ain't gonna work well with Window-eyes because it runs in a console. You need Jaws or a dos screen reader for that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:23 PM Subject: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm, but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks. Greg On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote: > Hi Butch, > > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like > Jaws > that reads those well or a dos screen reader. > > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal > application or if you need help setting it up. > > Thanks > - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBZXuH7s9z/XlyUyARAqI9AKCqMNfuaJfT8Zifi5u012A2X9dCzgCeJ+QG ksaH9vA/8RbV2gv1ztuf3Bo= =REWI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up ` ssh clients for windows, was: " Gregory Nowak ` Richard Wells @ ` Sean McMahon ` Richard Wells ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. How about cygwin's port of ssh, www.cygwin.com I like it because you don't need administrative rights to install on an xp-pro system. There is also secure-crt, and putty. You will like the cygwin port the best because it works the same way as command-line ssh in linux. Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:23 AM Subject: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and > wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and > after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh > client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free > (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be > accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for > when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm, > but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks. > > Greg > > > On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > > > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console > > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws > > that reads those well or a dos screen reader. > > > > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal > > application or if you need help setting it up. > > > > Thanks > > > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBZXuH7s9z/XlyUyARAqI9AKCqMNfuaJfT8Zifi5u012A2X9dCzgCeJ+QG > ksaH9vA/8RbV2gv1ztuf3Bo= > =REWI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up ` Sean McMahon @ ` Richard Wells 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Richard Wells @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. As does Open SSH and it is much smaller! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@usgs.gov> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:16 PM Subject: Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up How about cygwin's port of ssh, www.cygwin.com I like it because you don't need administrative rights to install on an xp-pro system. There is also secure-crt, and putty. You will like the cygwin port the best because it works the same way as command-line ssh in linux. Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:23 AM Subject: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and > wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and > after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh > client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free > (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be > accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for > when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm, > but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks. > > Greg > > > On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > > > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console > > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like > > Jaws > > that reads those well or a dos screen reader. > > > > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal > > application or if you need help setting it up. > > > > Thanks > > > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBZXuH7s9z/XlyUyARAqI9AKCqMNfuaJfT8Zifi5u012A2X9dCzgCeJ+QG > ksaH9vA/8RbV2gv1ztuf3Bo= > =REWI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up ` ssh clients for windows, was: " Gregory Nowak ` Richard Wells ` Sean McMahon @ ` Janina Sajka ` Richard Wells 2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. My knowledge on this subject is a tad dated. However, I am quite certain there's still a ssh client with cygwin. So, were you to get that set up, you should have a full bash experience from the DOS box on that Win machine. How well the Win screen readers do with old DOS apps is another story I know nothing about anymore. Gregory Nowak writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and > wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and > after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh > client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free > (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be > accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for > when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm, > but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks. > > Greg > > > On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > > > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console > > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws > > that reads those well or a dos screen reader. > > > > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal > > application or if you need help setting it up. > > > > Thanks > > > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBZXuH7s9z/XlyUyARAqI9AKCqMNfuaJfT8Zifi5u012A2X9dCzgCeJ+QG > ksaH9vA/8RbV2gv1ztuf3Bo= > =REWI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up ` Janina Sajka @ ` Richard Wells 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Richard Wells @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Janina, The Open SSH client I have is from cygwin but you can just install it without installing cygwin. It will work well with Jaws for Windows and ASAP, but nothing much else is going to give much satisfaction. Vocal-eyes doesn't track well at all out of the box. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:00 PM Subject: Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up My knowledge on this subject is a tad dated. However, I am quite certain there's still a ssh client with cygwin. So, were you to get that set up, you should have a full bash experience from the DOS box on that Win machine. How well the Win screen readers do with old DOS apps is another story I know nothing about anymore. Gregory Nowak writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and > wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and > after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh > client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free > (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be > accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for > when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm, > but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks. > > Greg > > > On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > > > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console > > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like > > Jaws > > that reads those well or a dos screen reader. > > > > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal > > application or if you need help setting it up. > > > > Thanks > > > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBZXuH7s9z/XlyUyARAqI9AKCqMNfuaJfT8Zifi5u012A2X9dCzgCeJ+QG > ksaH9vA/8RbV2gv1ztuf3Bo= > =REWI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` Butch Bussen ` Janina Sajka @ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 ` Butch Bussen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, Is IRLP using Fedora? if so, I have kernels for you. If you want to install Fedora on a new box, you can get free telephone tech support from a fellow ham. HTH and 73. -- Bill in Denver On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Butch Bussen wrote: > I've just joined the list. I'm very new to Linux, although I've run a shell > account for years. I recently put in a Linux box dedicated to ham radio and > i r l p. Wondering what you folks use for an ssh connection. I have putty > which sort of works, but seems to reprint the screen. I've downloaded and > testing securecrt which seems to work fairly well, but they want $99 to > register it and I think that is a little accessive. My nnext project is to > put another fedora box on the network to learn on. I wasn't able to get the > ham box installed at all with speech as I didn't know how and they supplied > thier own cd with special scripts and so forth. Now that it is running, I > can login on the network, that's why I'm looking for a good terminal or > telnet program. > 73s > Butch Bussen > wa0vjr > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 @ ` Butch Bussen ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Butch Bussen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yes, irlp is using ffedora, well the new stuff is. we're presently running redhat 9, but my understanding they're moving over to fedora and I think we'll be updated. I'd be interested in the kernels, but not sure I'd know how to install them. I was booting from a floppy to install their system from scratch and had all kinds of problems. I had to get sighted help to do all this, and it was a real pain. I sure wish I'd had speech for that. I haven't opened my new box yet, but if it will boot from the cd, I can download the images from the linux-speakup page. I think it says I need four disks. Thanks. I guess this doesn't make a lot of sense, what I'm wondering is how hard it is to install the kernels you have for speech once I'm upgraded to fedora on the irlp box. 73s Butch Bussen wa0vjr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up ` Butch Bussen @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. This does indeed make a lot of sense, Butch. Installing the kernels is not at all hard. And, yes, you will be able to install with speech using the 4 disk images from the Speakup Modified Fedora site. And, when you finish, you'll have a a talking kernel all ready for use. Butch Bussen writes: > Yes, irlp is using ffedora, well the new stuff is. we're presently > running redhat 9, but my understanding they're moving over to fedora and I > think we'll be updated. I'd be interested in the kernels, but not sure > I'd know how to install them. I was booting from a floppy to install > their system from scratch and had all kinds of problems. I had to get > sighted help to do all this, and it was a real pain. I sure wish I'd had > speech for that. I haven't opened my new box yet, but if it will boot > from the cd, I can download the images from the linux-speakup page. I > think it says I need four disks. > > Thanks. > > I guess this doesn't make a lot of sense, what I'm wondering is how hard > it is to install the kernels you have for speech once I'm upgraded to > fedora on the irlp box. > 73s > Butch Bussen > wa0vjr > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up locking up Juan Hernandez ` Butch Bussen @ ` Janina Sajka ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Is it possible your university is timing out inactive sessions? That seems plausible to me. Juan Hernandez writes: > Hello, I don't know if any of you have seen this problem in the past, but here I go. > > I ssh into my univercities server to work on it. if I leave the connection sit there for a while I'd say 5-8 minutes, it will lock up, I have to load up another console tty, and kill the ssh process that way. any ideas? > > I am using fedora core 2, with kernal 2.6.8.1 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: locking up locking up Juan Hernandez ` Butch Bussen ` Janina Sajka @ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Juan, I can't be any help with the hanging problem itself, probably some jerk at the university who thought it'd be real cool to time the users out on an ssh session. I can, however, tell you of an easier way to kill the session. Just hit enter, to get you to the beginning of the line, then press tilde followed by a dot. Poof, you'll be back to your prompt on the client machine. HTH. -- Bill in Denver On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Juan Hernandez wrote: > Hello, I don't know if any of you have seen this problem in the past, but here I go. > > I ssh into my univercities server to work on it. if I leave the connection sit there for a while I'd say 5-8 minutes, it will lock up, I have to load up another console tty, and kill the ssh process that way. any ideas? > > I am using fedora core 2, with kernal 2.6.8.1 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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