locking up

locking up

[Juan Hernandez]

Hello, I don't know if any of you have seen this problem in the past, but here I go.

I ssh into my univercities server to work on it.  if I leave the connection sit there for a while I'd say 5-8 minutes, it will lock up, I have to load up another console tty, and kill the ssh process that way.  any ideas?

I am using fedora core 2, with kernal 2.6.8.1

Re: locking up

[Butch Bussen]

I've just joined the list.  I'm very new to Linux, although I've run a 
shell account for years.  I recently put in a Linux box dedicated to ham 
radio and i r l p.  Wondering what you folks use for an ssh connection.  I 
have putty which sort of works, but seems to reprint the screen.  I've 
downloaded and testing securecrt which seems to work fairly well, but they 
want $99 to register it and I think that is a little accessive.  My nnext 
project is to put another fedora box on the network to learn on.  I wasn't 
able to get the ham box installed at all with speech as I didn't know how 
and they supplied thier own cd with special scripts and so forth.  Now 
that it is running, I can login on the network, that's why I'm looking for 
a good terminal or telnet program.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

Re: locking up

[Janina Sajka]

Is it possible your university is timing out inactive sessions? That
seems plausible to me.

Juan Hernandez writes:
> Hello, I don't know if any of you have seen this problem in the past, but here I go.
> 
> I ssh into my univercities server to work on it.  if I leave the connection sit there for a while I'd say 5-8 minutes, it will lock up, I have to load up another console tty, and kill the ssh process that way.  any ideas?
> 
> I am using fedora core 2, with kernal 2.6.8.1 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: locking up

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Butch:

Welcome to the list. You're not the only ham here, though I, myself, am
not one--at least not in the sense you meant! <grin>

As for what we use for ssh -- I'll let those who still terminal from
Windows go at that in more depth for you. Suffice it to say that most of
us are just using Linux directly, not from Windows.

Any reason you couldn't just do that yourself? It's a far more
compelling experience.

Butch Bussen writes:
> I've just joined the list.  I'm very new to Linux, although I've run a 
> shell account for years.  I recently put in a Linux box dedicated to ham 
> radio and i r l p.  Wondering what you folks use for an ssh connection.  I 
> have putty which sort of works, but seems to reprint the screen.  I've 
> downloaded and testing securecrt which seems to work fairly well, but they 
> want $99 to register it and I think that is a little accessive.  My nnext 
> project is to put another fedora box on the network to learn on.  I wasn't 
> able to get the ham box installed at all with speech as I didn't know how 
> and they supplied thier own cd with special scripts and so forth.  Now 
> that it is running, I can login on the network, that's why I'm looking for 
> a good terminal or telnet program.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: locking up

[Butch Bussen]

Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but 
this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of 
breaking something that is working.  f y i, i r l p is internet radio 
linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems 
and so forth together via the internet.  All of the supporting software is 
done in Linux.  Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. 
Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end.  It has 
some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing 
all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware.  I looked 
around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech.

Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

Re: locking up

[Gregory Nowak]

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Hi.

Slackware's official cd-rom set comes with speakup already in it. If
you look in the root directory of the first slackware cd-rom, you
should see 2 files there called I believe speakup_docs.txt, and
speak_install.txt. Hth.

Greg


On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 01:06:43PM -0700, Butch Bussen wrote:
> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but 
> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of 
> breaking something that is working.  f y i, i r l p is internet radio 
> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems 
> and so forth together via the internet.  All of the supporting software is 
> done in Linux.  Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. 
> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end.  It has 
> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing 
> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware.  I looked 
> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech.
> 
> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
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> 
> 

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Re: locking up

[Janina Sajka]

You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But,
perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could
take you into a thicket--arguably.

So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at
the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora

We have a installation HOWTO there:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html


The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is
speech enabled with Speakup.

One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no
installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you
install one of the other distributions.

Butch Bussen writes:
> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but 
> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of 
> breaking something that is working.  f y i, i r l p is internet radio 
> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems 
> and so forth together via the internet.  All of the supporting software is 
> done in Linux.  Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code. 
> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end.  It has 
> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing 
> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware.  I looked 
> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech.
> 
> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

debian speakup installation problems

[hank]

hello I have the following system I am trying to get debian on.
p4 2.4 ghz
debian cd iso downloaded off of speakup site
the sarge
my 2 synthisizers I have access to is 1 echo pc external and 2 a keynote 
external synth think its keynote sa or something like that.
when I type in linux speakup_synth=bnx for the echo supposively the echo 
works with drivers for bns the normal choose language screen comes up
any ideas why the thing isn't working?
thanks
hank
if you would like to talk to me directly you can click below to call me on 
skype!!!
callto://hanksmith5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: locking up


> You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But,
> perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could
> take you into a thicket--arguably.
>
> So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at
> the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora
>
> We have a installation HOWTO there:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
>
>
> The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is
> speech enabled with Speakup.
>
> One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no
> installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you
> install one of the other distributions.
>
> Butch Bussen writes:
>> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but
>> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of
>> breaking something that is working.  f y i, i r l p is internet radio
>> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems
>> and so forth together via the internet.  All of the supporting software 
>> is
>> done in Linux.  Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code.
>> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end.  It has
>> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on 
>> blowing
>> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware.  I looked
>> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech.
>>
>> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment.
>> 73s
>> Butch Bussen
>> wa0vjr
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
>
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

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Re: locking up

[Butch Bussen]

I'm not sure what you mean by having accessibility installed.  If you mean 
speech, I don't.  Are there other changes I could make to make the box 
more useable?  One thing, for example, when I log in with my terminal 
program, I don't see a way to distinguish files from folders.  I'm still 
looking for a terminal program if anyone has any ideas.  Thanks for the 
urls, I'll give those a look, and for reasons mentioned in other posts, 
will likely go with fedora.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr




On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Janina Sajka wrote:

> You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But,
> perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could
> take you into a thicket--arguably.
>
> So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at
> the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora
>
> We have a installation HOWTO there:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
>
>
> The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is
> speech enabled with Speakup.
>
> One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no
> installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you
> install one of the other distributions.
>
> Butch Bussen writes:
>> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but
>> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of
>> breaking something that is working.  f y i, i r l p is internet radio
>> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems
>> and so forth together via the internet.  All of the supporting software is
>> done in Linux.  Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code.
>> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end.  It has
>> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing
>> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware.  I looked
>> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech.
>>
>> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment.
>> 73s
>> Butch Bussen
>> wa0vjr
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> 				Janina Sajka, Chair
> 				Accessibility Workgroup
> 				Free Standards Group (FSG)
>
> janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: locking up

[Janina Sajka]

If you use speech, then your accessibility is speech. Were it braille,
then that would be the drop in replacement, etc.

In any case, here's a suggestion on how to distinguish files from
directories (and other types of entries such as symbolic links):

alias ls='ls -px -1'

The -1 at the end gives you one entry per line. Take that off if you
don't care about that.

To learn more about what you can do with ls, and especially about how
you can customize it to taste, do:

man ls

Butch Bussen writes:
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by having accessibility installed.  If you mean 
> speech, I don't.  Are there other changes I could make to make the box 
> more useable?  One thing, for example, when I log in with my terminal 
> program, I don't see a way to distinguish files from folders.  I'm still 
> looking for a terminal program if anyone has any ideas.  Thanks for the 
> urls, I'll give those a look, and for reasons mentioned in other posts, 
> will likely go with fedora.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Janina Sajka wrote:
> 
> >You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But,
> >perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could
> >take you into a thicket--arguably.
> >
> >So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at
> >the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution:
> >
> >http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora
> >
> >We have a installation HOWTO there:
> >
> >http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
> >
> >
> >The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is
> >speech enabled with Speakup.
> >
> >One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no
> >installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you
> >install one of the other distributions.
> >
> >Butch Bussen writes:
> >>Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but
> >>this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of
> >>breaking something that is working.  f y i, i r l p is internet radio
> >>linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems
> >>and so forth together via the internet.  All of the supporting software is
> >>done in Linux.  Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code.
> >>Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end.  It has
> >>some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on blowing
> >>all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware.  I looked
> >>around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech.
> >>
> >>Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment.
> >>73s
> >>Butch Bussen
> >>wa0vjr
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >-- 
> >
> >				Janina Sajka, Chair
> >				Accessibility Workgroup
> >				Free Standards Group (FSG)
> >
> >janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: locking up

[Richard Wells]

Hi Butch,

I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console 
application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws 
that reads those well or a dos screen reader.

Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal 
application or if you need help setting it up.

Thanks

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@shellworld.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: locking up



I'm not sure what you mean by having accessibility installed.  If you mean
speech, I don't.  Are there other changes I could make to make the box
more useable?  One thing, for example, when I log in with my terminal
program, I don't see a way to distinguish files from folders.  I'm still
looking for a terminal program if anyone has any ideas.  Thanks for the
urls, I'll give those a look, and for reasons mentioned in other posts,
will likely go with fedora.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr




On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Janina Sajka wrote:

> You're not going to mess anything up by becoming an ordinary user. But,
> perhaps you don't have accessibility installed and adapting that could
> take you into a thicket--arguably.
>
> So, the Fry's box is a good bet. If you want to look at Fedora, look at
> the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora
>
> We have a installation HOWTO there:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
>
>
> The idea is that the installation process, as well as the result, is
> speech enabled with Speakup.
>
> One can also, of course, do this with Slack or Debian or Gentoo--but no
> installation HOWTO, so you might want to look at ours even if you
> install one of the other distributions.
>
> Butch Bussen writes:
>> Actually, I plan on installing a Linux box just to run on its own, but
>> this one is operational, and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of
>> breaking something that is working.  f y i, i r l p is internet radio
>> linking project and is used by ham radio people to tie repeater systems
>> and so forth together via the internet.  All of the supporting software 
>> is
>> done in Linux.  Some of it, as I understand, is specialized code.
>> Actually, I picked up a cheap computer at Fries last week end.  It has
>> some offbrand of a gui Linux on it I've never heard of, so plan on 
>> blowing
>> all that away and installing fedora or possibly slackware.  I looked
>> around slackware's page and didn't really see anything about speech.
>>
>> Anyhow, that is where I am at the moment.
>> 73s
>> Butch Bussen
>> wa0vjr
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
>
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up

[Gregory Nowak]

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Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and
wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and
after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh
client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free
(as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be
accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for
when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm,
but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks.

Greg


On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote:
> Hi Butch,
> 
> I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console 
> application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws 
> that reads those well or a dos screen reader.
> 
> Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal 
> application or if you need help setting it up.
> 
> Thanks
> 

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Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up

[Richard Wells]

ftp://bupster.cjb.net/pub/openssh34-3.zip

But it ain't gonna work well with Window-eyes because it runs in a console. 
You need Jaws or a dos screen reader for that.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up


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Hash: SHA1

Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and
wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and
after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh
client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free
(as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be
accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for
when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm,
but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks.

Greg


On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote:
> Hi Butch,
>
> I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console
> application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like 
> Jaws
> that reads those well or a dos screen reader.
>
> Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal
> application or if you need help setting it up.
>
> Thanks
>

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Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up

[Sean McMahon]

How about cygwin's port of ssh, www.cygwin.com  I like it because you don't need
administrative rights to install on an xp-pro system.  There is also secure-crt,
and putty.  You will like the cygwin port the best because it works the same way
as command-line ssh in linux.
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:23 AM
Subject: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up


> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and
> wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and
> after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh
> client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free
> (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be
> accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for
> when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm,
> but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote:
> > Hi Butch,
> >
> > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console
> > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws
> > that reads those well or a dos screen reader.
> >
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> > application or if you need help setting it up.
> >
> > Thanks
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Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up

[Richard Wells]

As does Open SSH and it is much smaller!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@usgs.gov>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up


How about cygwin's port of ssh, www.cygwin.com  I like it because you don't 
need
administrative rights to install on an xp-pro system.  There is also 
secure-crt,
and putty.  You will like the cygwin port the best because it works the same 
way
as command-line ssh in linux.
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:23 AM
Subject: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up


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> Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and
> wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and
> after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh
> client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free
> (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be
> accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for
> when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm,
> but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote:
> > Hi Butch,
> >
> > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console
> > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like 
> > Jaws
> > that reads those well or a dos screen reader.
> >
> > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal
> > application or if you need help setting it up.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
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Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up

[Janina Sajka]

My knowledge on this subject is a tad dated. However, I am quite certain
there's still a ssh client with cygwin. So, were you to get that set up,
you should have a full bash experience from the DOS box on that Win
machine. How well the Win screen readers do with old DOS apps is another
story I know nothing about anymore.

Gregory Nowak writes:
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> Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and
> wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and
> after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh
> client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free
> (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be
> accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for
> when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm,
> but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote:
> > Hi Butch,
> > 
> > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console 
> > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like Jaws 
> > that reads those well or a dos screen reader.
> > 
> > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal 
> > application or if you need help setting it up.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
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Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up

[Richard Wells]

Hi Janina,

The Open SSH client I have is from cygwin but you can just install it 
without installing cygwin. It will work well with Jaws for Windows and ASAP, 
but nothing much else is going to give much satisfaction. Vocal-eyes doesn't 
track well at all out of the box.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: ssh clients for windows, was: Re: locking up


My knowledge on this subject is a tad dated. However, I am quite certain
there's still a ssh client with cygwin. So, were you to get that set up,
you should have a full bash experience from the DOS box on that Win
machine. How well the Win screen readers do with old DOS apps is another
story I know nothing about anymore.

Gregory Nowak writes:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Since we're on this topic, I was over at a friend's house one day, and
> wanted to login to my gnu/linux box. However, he has windows xp, and
> after a bit of searching, I was unable to come up with a free ssh
> client that would run under windows xp. So, does anyone know of a free
> (as in beer, not necessarily as in speech) ssh client that would be
> accessible with window-eyes, and that would run under windows xp for
> when I'm over by his place, or by someone else? I did try teraterm,
> but that doesn't seem to be able to run under windows xp. Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Richard Wells wrote:
> > Hi Butch,
> >
> > I use Open SSH when in the Windows environment. It runs as a console
> > application so you will have to use either a Windows screen reader like 
> > Jaws
> > that reads those well or a dos screen reader.
> >
> > Contact me off list if you need help either acquiring this terminal
> > application or if you need help setting it up.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
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Re: locking up

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

Hi Juan,

      I can't be any help with the hanging problem itself, probably some 
jerk at the university who thought it'd be real cool to time the users out 
on an ssh session.  I can, however, tell you of an easier way to kill the 
session.  Just hit enter, to get you to the beginning of the line, then 
press tilde followed by a dot.  Poof, you'll be back to your prompt on the 
client machine.

           HTH.


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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Juan Hernandez wrote:

> Hello, I don't know if any of you have seen this problem in the past, but here I go.
>
> I ssh into my univercities server to work on it.  if I leave the connection sit there for a while I'd say 5-8 minutes, it will lock up, I have to load up another console tty, and kill the ssh process that way.  any ideas?
>
> I am using fedora core 2, with kernal 2.6.8.1
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Re: locking up

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

Hi,

      Is IRLP using Fedora? if so, I have kernels for you.  If you want to 
install Fedora on a new box, you can get free telephone tech support from 
a fellow ham.

           HTH and 73.


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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Butch Bussen wrote:

> I've just joined the list.  I'm very new to Linux, although I've run a shell 
> account for years.  I recently put in a Linux box dedicated to ham radio and 
> i r l p.  Wondering what you folks use for an ssh connection.  I have putty 
> which sort of works, but seems to reprint the screen.  I've downloaded and 
> testing securecrt which seems to work fairly well, but they want $99 to 
> register it and I think that is a little accessive.  My nnext project is to 
> put another fedora box on the network to learn on.  I wasn't able to get the 
> ham box installed at all with speech as I didn't know how and they supplied 
> thier own cd with special scripts and so forth.  Now that it is running, I 
> can login on the network, that's why I'm looking for a good terminal or 
> telnet program.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
>
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Re: locking up

[Butch Bussen]

Yes, irlp is using ffedora, well the new stuff is.  we're presently 
running redhat 9, but my understanding they're moving over to fedora and I 
think we'll be updated.  I'd be interested in the kernels, but not sure 
I'd know how to install them.  I was booting from a floppy to install 
their system from scratch and had all kinds of problems.  I had to get 
sighted help to do all this, and it was a real pain.  I sure wish I'd had 
speech for that.  I haven't opened my new box yet, but if it will boot 
from the cd, I can download the images from the linux-speakup page.  I 
think it says I need four disks.

Thanks.

I guess this doesn't make a lot of sense, what I'm wondering is how hard 
it is to install the kernels you have for speech once I'm upgraded to 
fedora on the irlp box.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

Re: locking up

[Janina Sajka]

This does indeed make a lot of sense, Butch.

Installing the kernels is not at all hard. And, yes, you will be able to
install with speech using the 4 disk images from the Speakup Modified
Fedora site. And, when you finish, you'll have a a talking kernel
all ready for use.

Butch Bussen writes:
> Yes, irlp is using ffedora, well the new stuff is.  we're presently 
> running redhat 9, but my understanding they're moving over to fedora and I 
> think we'll be updated.  I'd be interested in the kernels, but not sure 
> I'd know how to install them.  I was booting from a floppy to install 
> their system from scratch and had all kinds of problems.  I had to get 
> sighted help to do all this, and it was a real pain.  I sure wish I'd had 
> speech for that.  I haven't opened my new box yet, but if it will boot 
> from the cd, I can download the images from the linux-speakup page.  I 
> think it says I need four disks.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I guess this doesn't make a lot of sense, what I'm wondering is how hard 
> it is to install the kernels you have for speech once I'm upgraded to 
> fedora on the irlp box.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> 
> 
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