Load time is rediculous

Load time is rediculous

[erik burggraaf]

Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have this
problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is rediculous,
since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there picking it's
nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the timeout has
been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my load time,
though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could there be
another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say I'm not
stuck.  Smile.
Help much appreciated as always.
Cheers,
Erik


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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Charles Hallenbeck]

You are not stuck. Chances are that you are shutting your
computer down incorrectly. If you shut your computer down without
going through the normal shutdown procedure your disk partitions
are tagged as having been incorrectly shut down, and a lengthy
file system check is performed when you boot up again. My guess
is that is what is happening.

Chuck


On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have this
> problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is rediculous,
> since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there picking it's
> nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the timeout has
> been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my load time,
> though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could there be
> another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say I'm not
> stuck.  Smile.
> Help much appreciated as always.
> Cheers,
> Erik
>
>
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Chuck is right.  It would be helpful to know how you shut down your
computer.  If you are just turning off the power, no wonder you're
having troubles.  Here's the drill.  Follow it for best results.

1.  log in as root or SU.

2.  Type:  shutdown -h now

3.  Wait till Speakup tells you "power down".

4.  Then, and only then turn off the power.  

I think you can find documentation by looking at the man page for
shutdown.   <smile>  Yep, yepper, I just checked, it's most complete.
have fun! 

Ann P.

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Re: Load time is rediculous

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, To shut down, I do the following.
# shutdown -h now
The system runs through a process of saving and unmounting, and setting
itself up.  Because the system is old, it does not actually power down
itself, so, when the shutdown procedure stopps, it finishes with the prompt
shut down now, and there is no more hard drive activity, I power down the
computer.  Then, when I go back to it, I am still left waiting for a long
period petween bios and opporating system load where the computer does nada.
I've also tried rebooting with control alt delete with the same result.
Cheers,
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <hallenbeck@valstar.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous


> You are not stuck. Chances are that you are shutting your
> computer down incorrectly. If you shut your computer down without
> going through the normal shutdown procedure your disk partitions
> are tagged as having been incorrectly shut down, and a lengthy
> file system check is performed when you boot up again. My guess
> is that is what is happening.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> > Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have this
> > problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is rediculous,
> > since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there picking
it's
> > nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the timeout
has
> > been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my load
time,
> > though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could
there be
> > another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say I'm
not
> > stuck.  Smile.
> > Help much appreciated as always.
> > Cheers,
> > Erik
> >
> >
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Igor Gueths]

Does the kernel try to probe for any devices during this time period?
Which setting specifically did you change? The timeout or the delay (both
settings under boot message). If you are going to change any timeouts I'd
suggest changing the delay to boot the first image, which defaults to 20
seconds.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have this
> problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is rediculous,
> since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there picking it's
> nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the timeout has
> been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my load time,
> though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could there be
> another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say I'm not
> stuck.  Smile.
> Help much appreciated as always.
> Cheers,
> Erik
>
>
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, just one more note.  I always log in as root.  This is the only thing I
left out in my last msg.  I know it's not recomended that ppl do this in
practice, but it's not like I'm administering the server for first national
bank.  Smile.
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous


> Hi all,
>
> Chuck is right.  It would be helpful to know how you shut down your
> computer.  If you are just turning off the power, no wonder you're
> having troubles.  Here's the drill.  Follow it for best results.
>
> 1.  log in as root or SU.
>
> 2.  Type:  shutdown -h now
>
> 3.  Wait till Speakup tells you "power down".
>
> 4.  Then, and only then turn off the power.
>
> I think you can find documentation by looking at the man page for
> shutdown.   <smile>  Yep, yepper, I just checked, it's most complete.
> have fun!
>
> Ann P.
>
> --
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net ICQ Number:  33006854
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
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JRRT
>
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[erik burggraaf]

Well, There's no delay setting in my lilo file.  What if I put one in below
the timeout.  It would look something like:
"delay = 10
I'd just go ahead and do it, but I don't want to have to rescue my system if
it coughs on the command.
Thanks,
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous


> Does the kernel try to probe for any devices during this time period?
> Which setting specifically did you change? The timeout or the delay (both
> settings under boot message). If you are going to change any timeouts I'd
> suggest changing the delay to boot the first image, which defaults to 20
> seconds.
>
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> > Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have this
> > problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is rediculous,
> > since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there picking
it's
> > nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the timeout
has
> > been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my load
time,
> > though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could
there be
> > another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say I'm
not
> > stuck.  Smile.
> > Help much appreciated as always.
> > Cheers,
> > Erik
> >
> >
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Igor Gueths]

What does the machine do when its sitting there? Is it attempting to probe
for a device (s)? Have you ever rebuilt your kernel and compile in only
what is necessary? Or are you using a stock kernel?

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi, To shut down, I do the following.
> # shutdown -h now
> The system runs through a process of saving and unmounting, and setting
> itself up.  Because the system is old, it does not actually power down
> itself, so, when the shutdown procedure stopps, it finishes with the prompt
> shut down now, and there is no more hard drive activity, I power down the
> computer.  Then, when I go back to it, I am still left waiting for a long
> period petween bios and opporating system load where the computer does nada.
> I've also tried rebooting with control alt delete with the same result.
> Cheers,
> Erik
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <hallenbeck@valstar.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous
>
>
> > You are not stuck. Chances are that you are shutting your
> > computer down incorrectly. If you shut your computer down without
> > going through the normal shutdown procedure your disk partitions
> > are tagged as having been incorrectly shut down, and a lengthy
> > file system check is performed when you boot up again. My guess
> > is that is what is happening.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have this
> > > problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is rediculous,
> > > since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there picking
> it's
> > > nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the timeout
> has
> > > been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my load
> time,
> > > though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could
> there be
> > > another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say I'm
> not
> > > stuck.  Smile.
> > > Help much appreciated as always.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Erik
> > >
> > >
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> >
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, I'm using the speakup.i kernel as compiled from  the slackware
instalation iso.  I can't tell what exactly is going on, because the puter
doesn't come up talking til the break is over.  On the other hand, I don't
know the statis of my devices, except for the ones I've mounted personally,
which includes all of my drives and my synth.  I'm researching that right
now.
Cheers,
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous


> What does the machine do when its sitting there? Is it attempting to probe
> for a device (s)? Have you ever rebuilt your kernel and compile in only
> what is necessary? Or are you using a stock kernel?
>
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> > Hi, To shut down, I do the following.
> > # shutdown -h now
> > The system runs through a process of saving and unmounting, and setting
> > itself up.  Because the system is old, it does not actually power down
> > itself, so, when the shutdown procedure stopps, it finishes with the
prompt
> > shut down now, and there is no more hard drive activity, I power down
the
> > computer.  Then, when I go back to it, I am still left waiting for a
long
> > period petween bios and opporating system load where the computer does
nada.
> > I've also tried rebooting with control alt delete with the same result.
> > Cheers,
> > Erik
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <hallenbeck@valstar.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous
> >
> >
> > > You are not stuck. Chances are that you are shutting your
> > > computer down incorrectly. If you shut your computer down without
> > > going through the normal shutdown procedure your disk partitions
> > > are tagged as having been incorrectly shut down, and a lengthy
> > > file system check is performed when you boot up again. My guess
> > > is that is what is happening.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have
this
> > > > problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is
rediculous,
> > > > since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there
picking
> > it's
> > > > nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the
timeout
> > has
> > > > been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my
load
> > time,
> > > > though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could
> > there be
> > > > another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say
I'm
> > not
> > > > stuck.  Smile.
> > > > Help much appreciated as always.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Erik
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Erik, it's a good idea to have both a userID and root ID.  <smile>
Yes, I know you aren't administrating the First National Bank,
however, you *can* do some things as root that you can not retract and
can not overwrite as root.    You can set things up so you can run
most things as user, and you really, really should work that way.
It's only common sense.  For example, you can delete files within the
core as root.  You can delete anything as root, even other people's
files.  You have complete control over the whole bless computer in a
more significant way than any Windows user does.  As a Windows user,
you can't edit your system files.  Indeed, you can't edit any of the
files that actually run the computer.  No, I don't mean the changes
you can make from within the interface of the OS, I mean the actual
core files of the OS, the files that make the computer what it is.
Those are written in proprietary code that is closed to the user.  

That's not the case in Linux.  Erik, you can do some real significant
damage to your system as root precisely because the source code for
every single file on your system is available to you.  In short, as
root, you are sitting on a time bomb.  I am probably the worst person
to tell you this because I never do anything as root unless I'm
absolutely sure I know what I'm doing.  I am one who has complete
respect for root perms.  There are those on this list who know their
Linux boxes backward and forward, and even they do not use root unless
they have to do so.  They program as users, do most of the work on
their computers as users and not as root.   They'd tell you the same
as me.  Quit doing what you're doing!  Only use root for root things.
<smile>  There's a darned good reason why users can't write to the
root partition.    Linux assumes that if you are operating as root,
you know what you're doing.  It will not ask you if you are sure you
want to edit a file or delete a file or move a file.  Remember, there
is *no* recovery from Linux deletes.  Once you delete something, it's
gone, period, gone with no return, no restore, no backup for those who
inadvertently type a wrong key.  

No, my friend, no, be wise, respect your root perms and do your work
as a user.    <smile>  Now, of course, you can take this msg and
delete it and decide that I'm just old and scared and too cautious,
but if you wreck your system, you'll remember what I said. 

Ann P.

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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Geoff Shang]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Ann Parsons wrote:

> Remember, there is *no* recovery from Linux deletes.  Once you delete
> something, it's gone, period, gone with no return, no restore, no backup
> for those who inadvertently type a wrong key.

Actually, it is possible to recover deleted files on an ext2 filesystem,
but it's very very exacting and you have to catch it quickly or you won't
be able to do it.  I generally consider anything I've deleted to be lost.

Geoff.

Re: Load time is rediculous

[Adam Myrow]

After you edited your lilo.conf, did you run lilo?  You must run lilo
after editing the file.  You edit the file then just type "lilo" as root.
It will say something like "Added Linux."  That assumes that's the only
label in your system.  On my system, I also have Windows, and I changed my
label to Slackware because I had Redhat on there as well and I wanted to
keep them straight.  So, when I run lilo, I get "added Windows.  Added
Linux."  As I said, after any change to the /etc/lilo.conf, the lilo
command must be run to read it and update the boot info.  The same goes if
you ever recompile the kernel.  Hope this helps.

Re: Load time is rediculous

[Geoff Shang]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Well, There's no delay setting in my lilo file.  What if I put one in below
> the timeout.  It would look something like:
> "delay = 10
> I'd just go ahead and do it, but I don't want to have to rescue my system if
> it coughs on the command.

urrr.  You do know that you have to run lilo to implement the changes?
Just checking.   If lilo's going to cough on anything in lilo.conf it'll do
it when you run lilo to update the boot loader, not when you next boot the
system.

Geoff.

Re: Load time is rediculous

[Geoff Shang]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Then, when I go back to it, I am still left waiting for a long period
> petween bios and opporating system load where the computer does nada.

hmmm.  Do you have a "prompt" directive in your lilo.conf file?  Perhaps
you could post your lilo.conf so we can either figure out the problem or
iliminate it as a cause.

Geoff.

Re: Load time is rediculous

[erik burggraaf]

Aw beautiful!  Bin'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'ngo!  Grin.
We are now booting in a time which borders on lightning.
Thanks very much.
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous


> After you edited your lilo.conf, did you run lilo?  You must run lilo
> after editing the file.  You edit the file then just type "lilo" as root.
> It will say something like "Added Linux."  That assumes that's the only
> label in your system.  On my system, I also have Windows, and I changed my
> label to Slackware because I had Redhat on there as well and I wanted to
> keep them straight.  So, when I run lilo, I get "added Windows.  Added
> Linux."  As I said, after any change to the /etc/lilo.conf, the lilo
> command must be run to read it and update the boot info.  The same goes if
> you ever recompile the kernel.  Hope this helps.
>
>
>
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Toby Fisher]

Just a thought, did you run lilo after you editted the file?  If you
didn't, then you'll still be waiting the full 2 minutes before booting.
Also, you can speed this up, loading the first image, by hitting the left
alt key, followed by the enter key.

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Re: Load time is rediculous

[shaun_oliver]

*SNIP*
Then, when I go back to it, I am still left waiting for a long
> period petween bios and opporating system load where the computer does
nada.
one thing that can cause this is ram. how much memory does you machine
have in it? I ask this because I'm running a P2 300 with xp on it and I
get a long period of waiting from the time the bios loads until the hard
drive starts spinning.
One way I've found to aleviate this is by hitting the escape key when
powering up just after bios load to stop the ram count.
and 9 times out of 10, that works for me.
hth

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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Steve Holmes]

One really good reason for using normal user accounts is you are
almost guarrenteed that your machine cannot be destroyed by a careless
delete or mis configuration within your personal directory.  You
cannot do a 'rm -fr *' for example by accident:)

I remember one time using my root account to post a news article or
something and receiving an e-mail from a guy in Japan chastising me
for using root for normal day to day activities.  That was one sure way
to get an e-mail from a far away:).

There are actually a few utilities that will not allow you to run them
from root.  Postgres database server comes to mind.

On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:33:37PM -0500, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Hi, just one more note.  I always log in as root.  This is the only thing I
> left out in my last msg.  I know it's not recomended that ppl do this in
> practice, but it's not like I'm administering the server for first national
> bank.  Smile.
> Erik
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Kerry Hoath]

Remember to rerun lilo after editing t he config file to update the map
installer.
You can edit the config file till you are blue in the fi ngers but unless you
rerun lilo the changes will not go into the map files.

If you are loading modules that you do not need; this can take time too but it seems
lilo is the culprate.
My system boots from off to booted in 30 seconds;
That i ncludes hard disk spin up times; ram test; all that sort of st uff
and I also have a fare few demons running.

Regards, Kerry.
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:51:00PM -0500, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Hi guys, I'm back at work on my little linux box.  Well, we have this
> problem of load time.  It runs to about 3 minutes, which is rediculous,
> since for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, it's just sitting there picking it's
> nose.  I've used vi to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file so that the timeout has
> been set from 1200 down to 10.  This hasn't had any effect on my load time,
> though.  Is there another setting in there I should look at?  Could there be
> another reason for the problem?  Am I stuck with this?  Please say I'm not
> stuck.  Smile.
> Help much appreciated as always.
> Cheers,
> Erik
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[Maurice A. Mines]

hi I have a problem how you startdhcp client under redhat 8.0?
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Subject: Re: Load time is rediculous


> After you edited your lilo.conf, did you run lilo?  You must run lilo
> after editing the file.  You edit the file then just type "lilo" as
root.
> It will say something like "Added Linux."  That assumes that's the only
> label in your system.  On my system, I also have Windows, and I changed
my
> label to Slackware because I had Redhat on there as well and I wanted to
> keep them straight.  So, when I run lilo, I get "added Windows.  Added
> Linux."  As I said, after any change to the /etc/lilo.conf, the lilo
> command must be run to read it and update the boot info.  The same goes
if
> you ever recompile the kernel.  Hope this helps.
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Re: Load time is rediculous

[dashielljt]

In that case, you might want to check your machine for viruses or trojans.
You could also try putting serial=0,9600n8 in lilo.conf then running lilo
again if it's not already there.  You'd be able to have the whole boot
process speak starting with the process before the boot prompt that way
and might discover something.  Something else too, if you power down wait
one minute before trying to start the computer again, that way everything
that was in memory gets cleared out and you really do get a fresh boot.


Jude <dashielljt@gmpexpress.net>