Re: a speak_freely question

Re: a speak_freely question

[rturner2]

hi,
well that sure answers some questions!
the only question left is how do i get those ip numbers?
thanks in advance
randy

On 2001-03-27 speakup@braille.uwo.ca said:
y sp>actually, it's more pertenant to say that you connect to their i/p
 sp>address. thus paving the way for you to convers one on one with the
 sp>person in question.
 sp>for instance, let's say you want to connect to your friend in sydney
 sp>australia
 sp>if you know their ip address for this argument we'll use the ip
 sp>202.139.185.77
 sp>what you do is open a conection as you normally would but instead
 sp>of putting the location of an lwl server, you put the ip 202.139.
 sp>185.77 and make sure that you are both using the same port whether
 sp>it be 2074 or 4074 or whatever other ports r used by speak freely.
 sp>the same principal applies in netmeeting and other such
 sp>applications that require ip addresses for communication purposes.
 sp>other packages like firetalk etc require u to have an
 sp>identification number not dissimilar to a phone number.
 sp>I hope this helps..
 sp>Shaun..
 sp>----- Original Message -----
 sp>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:30 AM
 sp>> hi all,
 sp>> i was reading the sflwl doc of speak_freely,
 sp>> and if i understand it right you can find and connect to
 sp>> a speak_freely user by there email address.
 sp>> if so can some one explane this to me?
 sp>> is it possable with speak_freely to speak just to one person at a
 sp>>time  a one on one chat?
 sp>> thanks to all in advance.
 sp>> randy
 sp>> _______________________________________________
 sp>> Speakup mailing list
 sp>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
 sp>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
 sp>_______________________________________________
 sp>Speakup mailing list
 sp>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
 sp>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: a speak_freely question

[Shaun Oliver]

well if u want to talk to one of the people on the reflecter one on one,
look at the lwl page on the speakup site and get the ip from there otherwise
ask the person to ping themselves and that might help you..
Shaun..
----- Original Message -----
From: <rturner2@texasisp.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Cc: <shauno@sgtnet.com.au>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: a speak_freely question


> hi,
> well that sure answers some questions!
> the only question left is how do i get those ip numbers?
> thanks in advance
> randy
>
> On 2001-03-27 speakup@braille.uwo.ca said:
> y sp>actually, it's more pertenant to say that you connect to their i/p
>  sp>address. thus paving the way for you to convers one on one with the
>  sp>person in question.
>  sp>for instance, let's say you want to connect to your friend in sydney
>  sp>australia
>  sp>if you know their ip address for this argument we'll use the ip
>  sp>202.139.185.77
>  sp>what you do is open a conection as you normally would but instead
>  sp>of putting the location of an lwl server, you put the ip 202.139.
>  sp>185.77 and make sure that you are both using the same port whether
>  sp>it be 2074 or 4074 or whatever other ports r used by speak freely.
>  sp>the same principal applies in netmeeting and other such
>  sp>applications that require ip addresses for communication purposes.
>  sp>other packages like firetalk etc require u to have an
>  sp>identification number not dissimilar to a phone number.
>  sp>I hope this helps..
>  sp>Shaun..
>  sp>----- Original Message -----
>  sp>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:30 AM
>  sp>> hi all,
>  sp>> i was reading the sflwl doc of speak_freely,
>  sp>> and if i understand it right you can find and connect to
>  sp>> a speak_freely user by there email address.
>  sp>> if so can some one explane this to me?
>  sp>> is it possable with speak_freely to speak just to one person at a
>  sp>>time  a one on one chat?
>  sp>> thanks to all in advance.
>  sp>> randy
>  sp>> _______________________________________________
>  sp>> Speakup mailing list
>  sp>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>  sp>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>  sp>_______________________________________________
>  sp>Speakup mailing list
>  sp>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>  sp>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: a speak_freely question

[Kirk Wood]

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 rturner2@texasisp.com wrote:
> the only question left is how do i get those ip numbers?

Now I don't know about howyou do it in speafreely. I can tell you that
obtaining the ip numbers is the point of the servers for netmeeting and
most any other similar program.

If you (or your friend) have static ip addresses it is pretty easy. Just
ask each other. If you have dynamic ip addresses you could email the ip
address to each other after connecting to the internet in preperation for
talking to each other. Or you can take the easy way out and connect to a
server.

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.

Re: a speak_freely question

[Kerry Hoath]

The lwl servers hold the name email address and current
ip of the people that register with them. The speakup reflector
also has a webpage to show you who is online. I don't know if you can
register with an lwl server on bumpy but if you can;
then pulling up the webpage gives you a list of people who have sfspeaker running on their machines.
Simply cut and paste the ip address and run sfmike ip address
and off you go. It's not as point and smite as
netmeeting is; but it is far simpler
to setup, far smaller to download and has worked
for far longer than net meeting has been in existance.

If you need open h.323 interoperability check out
either the voxilla project or
http://www.openh323.org I hear they
interoperate with net meeting to a certain degree.

Regards, Kerry.
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 09:10:09AM -0600, Kirk Wood wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 rturner2@texasisp.com wrote:
> > the only question left is how do i get those ip numbers?
> 
> Now I don't know about howyou do it in speafreely. I can tell you that
> obtaining the ip numbers is the point of the servers for netmeeting and
> most any other similar program.
> 
> If you (or your friend) have static ip addresses it is pretty easy. Just
> ask each other. If you have dynamic ip addresses you could email the ip
> address to each other after connecting to the internet in preperation for
> talking to each other. Or you can take the easy way out and connect to a
> server.
> 
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> 
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
> 
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: a speak_freely question

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Yes it is possible to use the sflwl program to search an lwl server to see
if someone is online.  This is useful in order to resolve IP addresses so
that you can connect to them directly (as Shaun mentioned).  However, in
practice, the sflwl program is probably more hassle than it's worth.  It's
much easier to look at the webpage generated by sflwld than using sflwl, as
you can browse the information that is there rather than having to search
for it.

You can see the speakup lwl server page at
http://lwl.braille.uwo.ca/online.html or see who is on the reflector by
looking at http://lwl.braille.uwo.ca/speakup.html.  Note that searching by
E-mail address will only work if the person has their E=mail address
defined in the SPEAKFREE_ID variable when sfspeaker is run.  Frank, for
example, does not.

In order to connect directly to another person, run one instance of
sfspeaker on the default 2074 port (or any other agreed upon port) and give
sfmike the IP address to connect to.  Note that the person at the other end
will have to do the same thing for you to have a 2-way conversation, but
they will hear you if their sfspeaker is running when you connect.  You can
set sfspeaker to automatically write you a script that can be invoked to
answer an incoming call by using the -a option (e.g. sfspeaker
-a/home/geoff/answer).  This script contains the sfmike command needed to
answer the current incoming call.

Geoff.

RE: a speak_freely question

[Holmes, Steve]

Actually, the ifconfig command will give you your own current I/P address.
Just look at the entry for the PPP connection you are using.  Example: ppp0.
You could construct a script that filters the output of the ifconfig command
soonly the ip address is shown; thus you could stick it in a variable or
whatever you want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Oliver [mailto:shauno@sgtnet.com.au]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 7:50 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: a speak_freely question 


well if u want to talk to one of the people on the reflecter one on one,
look at the lwl page on the speakup site and get the ip from there otherwise
ask the person to ping themselves and that might help you..
Shaun..
----- Original Message -----
From: <rturner2@texasisp.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Cc: <shauno@sgtnet.com.au>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: a speak_freely question


> hi,
> well that sure answers some questions!
> the only question left is how do i get those ip numbers?
> thanks in advance
> randy
>
> On 2001-03-27 speakup@braille.uwo.ca said:
> y sp>actually, it's more pertenant to say that you connect to their i/p
>  sp>address. thus paving the way for you to convers one on one with the
>  sp>person in question.
>  sp>for instance, let's say you want to connect to your friend in sydney
>  sp>australia
>  sp>if you know their ip address for this argument we'll use the ip
>  sp>202.139.185.77
>  sp>what you do is open a conection as you normally would but instead
>  sp>of putting the location of an lwl server, you put the ip 202.139.
>  sp>185.77 and make sure that you are both using the same port whether
>  sp>it be 2074 or 4074 or whatever other ports r used by speak freely.
>  sp>the same principal applies in netmeeting and other such
>  sp>applications that require ip addresses for communication purposes.
>  sp>other packages like firetalk etc require u to have an
>  sp>identification number not dissimilar to a phone number.
>  sp>I hope this helps..
>  sp>Shaun..
>  sp>----- Original Message -----
>  sp>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:30 AM
>  sp>> hi all,
>  sp>> i was reading the sflwl doc of speak_freely,
>  sp>> and if i understand it right you can find and connect to
>  sp>> a speak_freely user by there email address.
>  sp>> if so can some one explane this to me?
>  sp>> is it possable with speak_freely to speak just to one person at a
>  sp>>time  a one on one chat?
>  sp>> thanks to all in advance.
>  sp>> randy
>  sp>> _______________________________________________
>  sp>> Speakup mailing list
>  sp>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>  sp>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>  sp>_______________________________________________
>  sp>Speakup mailing list
>  sp>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>  sp>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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Re: a speak_freely question

[Shaun Oliver]

actually, it's more pertenant to say that you connect to their i/p address.
thus paving the way for you to convers one on one with the person in
question.
for instance, let's say you want to connect to your friend in sydney
australia
if you know their ip address for this argument we'll use the ip
202.139.185.77
what you do is open a conection as you normally would but instead of putting
the location of an lwl server, you put the ip 202.139.185.77
and make sure that you are both using the same port whether it be 2074 or
4074 or whatever other ports r used by speak freely.
the same principal applies in netmeeting and other such applications that
require ip addresses for communication purposes.
other packages like firetalk etc require u to have an identification number
not dissimilar to a phone number.
I hope this helps..
Shaun..
----- Original Message -----
From: <rturner2@texasisp.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:30 AM
Subject: a speak_freely question


> hi all,
> i was reading the sflwl doc of speak_freely,
> and if i understand it right you can find and connect to
> a speak_freely user by there email address.
> if so can some one explane this to me?
> is it possable with speak_freely to speak just to one person at a time
> a one on one chat?
> thanks to all in advance.
> randy
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

a speak_freely question

[rturner2]

hi all,
i was reading the sflwl doc of speak_freely,
and if i understand it right you can find and connect to
a speak_freely user by there email address.
if so can some one explane this to me?
is it possable with speak_freely to speak just to one person at a time
a one on one chat?
thanks to all in advance.
randy