From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:27:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <006501c2002b$f9d3db80$02263e18@mycomputer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <035901c1ffad$b2fa2e90$bd49e9d5@microsoft.com>
Hi Teddy. Just do a googlesearch on "download sox," you should get something.
----- Original Message -----
From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> Are these programs free? Do you have a web site address where I can
> download them?
>
> Thanks.
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
>
>
> Alex:
>
> There's both ecasound and sox, and they're both very powerful.
> But, they work very differetnly from Sound Forge and Cool Edit.
> Also, their documentation is not professionally written, even
> though it is professional quality software.
>
> In the realm of sound creation, there's the very classic Csound
> available for linux. This is the grand old synthesis ware that
> has been the bread and butter of major electronic music research
> facilities like carma at Stanford and Earcom in Paris.
>
> On Sun, 19 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > Is there any console based audio editors that work under linux? I've seen
> > one listed on the speakup projects page, but it said that it was on hold
> > because there were alternate solutions out there. What are those
> alternate
> > solutions?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@MIT.EDU>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> >
> >
> > > Yes, I must second on the music stuff. The only reason I use windows and
> > > Jaws is that it gives me access to cakeWalk, a very powerful (and mostly
> > > accessible) music sequencing and audio editing environment. Writing such
> a
> > > beast is very difficult, nontrivial, very f*cking hard, and takes many
> > human
> > > years to accomplish.
> > > To be fair, some of this difficulty may have to do with its reliance on
> > > Windows and its very ugly GUI programming (yes, its as ugly to develope
> > > under as it is to use), and some of the complexity may have to do with
> its
> > > ability to deal with music notation, but its still a nontrivial task to
> > > write such a beast. My feeling is that a console based sequencing and
> > audio
> > > package like cakeWalk won't ever be created, because sighted people want
> > to
> > > use a GUI. When gnome comes on-line for us, we may have more options in
> > this
> > > regard. I've heard of mixers and effects processors which are x-windows
> > > based, but I'm not sure how well they work. I think there is a sequencer
> > or
> > > two as well for the X environment. The question is, are any of these as
> > good
> > > as cakeWalk? CakeWalk is a professional quality product in every way.
> The
> > > only thing nonprofessional about it is Windows!
> > >
> > > There is someone (Frank Carmichael, I believe) who has been working on
> the
> > > audio piece of this, so maybe he can chime in on this and tell me how
> > *wrong
> > > I am*! <smile>
> > >
> > > There is no way to create music the way I do without this program! It
> sux,
> > > but its unfortunately the case.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: 18 May, 2002 8:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > >
> > >
> > > Are there any games accessible for the blind under Linux, like under
> > > Windows?
> > > Please tell me some web addresses.
> > > Are there any good sound editing programs for Linux, like Sound Forge,
> > Cool
> > > Edit, Gold Wave, etc, and programs for creating MIDI music, like Cake
> > Walk?
> > >
> > > Is there a text editor, that has macro features, Regular expressions,
> the
> > > ability to save in Windows/Mac/Unix format, etc?
> > >
> > > ... Just a few things that camed to mind.
> > >
> > > A lot of things are accessible, but ... harder to learn, harder to
> > configure
> > > and harder to use, if I am not so bright to remember 1000 command line
> > > parameters.
> > >
> > > Thank you for the links.
> > > Teddy,
> > > orasnita@home.ro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 18 May 2002, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> > > > I just wish Linux were
> > > > a more viable general purpose workstation; I use Windows for that
> > purpose.
> > > >
> > > Hi, Darrell:
> > >
> > > Just wondering what you think is missing from Linux' desktop
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > In case this sounds loaded, it might be. The underlying question
> > > might be: Is it your knowledge deficit, or is it Linux itself?
> > > For my own experience in this matter, I've found it's my
> > > knowledge deficit almost without exception.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> Technology Research and Development
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>
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