* Using speakup and emacspeak together
@ Tommy Moore
` Dave Hunt
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tommy Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi guys. On a laptop here I'm wanting to use software speech in linux so I
don't have to carry the synth around with me all the time and the only
option I have is emacspeak. When I'm home I'd like to be able to use both
speakup and emacspeak since speakup is my first choice for accessing linux
and emacspeak I could od while on the road.
Also being able to use both would be a plus o that I could learn emacspeak
and still have access to speakup.
Anybody have a setup like this going and any pointers to where I should
startto learn this other method?
Thanks for any help.
Tommy
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread* Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together Using speakup and emacspeak together Tommy Moore @ ` Dave Hunt ` Tommy Moore ` (2 more replies) ` Thomas Ward ` spam question Rodney Clowdus 2 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Tom, I had both for a time, and may do so again. What I found work best was to have two kernels, identical in all ways but one. One kernel had Speakup patched in, the other did not. I had them on floppies, but you could use loadlin, lilo, whatever. A warning: When running Emacspeak, be sure the Speakup keymap isn't getting loaded. For that matter, and perhaps more important, be sure your Speakup key map loads when you're running Speakup. -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together ` Dave Hunt @ ` Tommy Moore ` Dave Hunt ` Saqib Shaikh ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Tommy Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thanks for the tip. Also I forgot to mention that at home here I'd like to learn emacspeak with the litetalk so I'm not sure how to get that one to work with emacspeak neither. I did it once a long time ago but don't know how I should do this since the kernel I have has speakup patched in. Should I do the same thing as the suggestion you gave to me for the laptop on the desktop as well? Tommy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together ` Tommy Moore @ ` Dave Hunt 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If you're referring to the kernel suggestion, yes, do the same on both machines. Regarding the lite talk, you might want to look at the additional speech servers for Emacspeak. I think the latest one is "emacspeak-ss0.7". It's available in a source 'rpm', but I recommend the "tar.gz". The "rpm" has never worked right for me. Anyway, Assuming you've put the speech servers into the correct place, set the environment variable "DTK_PROGRAM" to "doubletalk", and set "DTK_PORT" to the port on which your synth is connected, if it's somewhere other than the first serial port. Jim Vanzandt, the author of the servers, has written a pretty good 'README' for these. A final note: Before any of this will work, make sure the packages "tcl" and "tcls" are installed. -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together ` Dave Hunt ` Tommy Moore @ ` Saqib Shaikh ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Saqib Shaikh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Dave, Other than manually typing loadkeys us.map or loadkeys speakup.map how can one ensure htat the right kernel is being loaded? Saqib ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:39 AM Subject: Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together > Tom, > > I had both for a time, and may do so again. What I found work best was to > have two kernels, identical in all ways but one. One kernel had Speakup > patched in, the other did not. I had them on floppies, but you could use > loadlin, lilo, whatever. A warning: When running Emacspeak, be sure the > Speakup keymap isn't getting loaded. For that matter, and perhaps more > important, be sure your Speakup key map loads when you're running Speakup. > > -Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together ` Dave Hunt ` Tommy Moore ` Saqib Shaikh @ ` Janina Sajka ` Thomas Ward 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup You don't need to have two kernels to achieve this. Simply use an "append=speakup_synth=[your.synth.keyword]" to distinguish two entries pointing to the same kernel in your lilo.conf to accomplish the same result. Much more elegant and far easier to maintain. PS: I do this all the time. Here's an example from my lilo.conf: image = /boot/vmlinuz label=nospeech alias = n vga=0X317 initrd=/boot/initrd.img read-only root=/dev/hda1 append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" image = /boot/vmlinuz label=express alias = x vga=0X317 initrd=/boot/initrd.img read-only root=/dev/hda1 append = "speakup_synth=dectlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" image = /boot/vmlinuz label=litetalk alias = l vga=0X317 initrd=/boot/initrd.img read-only root=/dev/hda1 append = "speakup_synth=ltlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" image = /boot/vmlinuz label=bns alias = b vga=0X317 initrd=/boot/initrd.img read-only root=/dev/hda1 append = "speakup_synth=bns hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Dave Hunt wrote: > Tom, > > I had both for a time, and may do so again. What I found work best was to > have two kernels, identical in all ways but one. One kernel had Speakup > patched in, the other did not. I had them on floppies, but you could use > loadlin, lilo, whatever. A warning: When running Emacspeak, be sure the > Speakup keymap isn't getting loaded. For that matter, and perhaps more > important, be sure your Speakup key map loads when you're running Speakup. > > -Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together ` Janina Sajka @ ` Thomas Ward 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, has anyone successfully tried Janina's suggestion with Grub? For technical reasons my large hard drive needs Grub to boot properly, and I've been trying to find a good way to multiboot kernels with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together > You don't need to have two kernels to achieve this. Simply use an > "append=speakup_synth=[your.synth.keyword]" to distinguish two entries > pointing to the same kernel in your lilo.conf to accomplish the same > result. Much more elegant and far easier to maintain. > > PS: I do this all the time. Here's an example from my lilo.conf: > > image = /boot/vmlinuz > label=nospeech > alias = n > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/vmlinuz > label=express > alias = x > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "speakup_synth=dectlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/vmlinuz > label=litetalk > alias = l > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "speakup_synth=ltlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/vmlinuz > label=bns > alias = b > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "speakup_synth=bns hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > > On Mon, > 26 Nov 2001, > Dave Hunt wrote: > > > Tom, > > > > I had both for a time, and may do so again. What I found work best was to > > have two kernels, identical in all ways but one. One kernel had Speakup > > patched in, the other did not. I had them on floppies, but you could use > > loadlin, lilo, whatever. A warning: When running Emacspeak, be sure the > > Speakup keymap isn't getting loaded. For that matter, and perhaps more > > important, be sure your Speakup key map loads when you're running Speakup. > > > > -Dave > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Using speakup and emacspeak together Using speakup and emacspeak together Tommy Moore ` Dave Hunt @ ` Thomas Ward ` spam question Rodney Clowdus 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, as for Emacspeak itself you can find all that you need at http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ They have new howtos, manuals, and installation guides going up for Emacspeak 15. Emacspeak seams to work fine under Red Hat 7.1, but Haven't gotten it working properly under Red hat 7.2. Not yet sure why. If anyone actually has figured out a way to have both Emacspeak and Speakup going let me know. It seams wherever I have 'Speakup on Emacspeak doesn't work properly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Moore" <tmoore@cmrc.org> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Using speakup and emacspeak together > Hi guys. On a laptop here I'm wanting to use software speech in linux so I > don't have to carry the synth around with me all the time and the only > option I have is emacspeak. When I'm home I'd like to be able to use both > speakup and emacspeak since speakup is my first choice for accessing linux > and emacspeak I could od while on the road. > Also being able to use both would be a plus o that I could learn emacspeak > and still have access to speakup. > Anybody have a setup like this going and any pointers to where I should > startto learn this other method? > Thanks for any help. > > Tommy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* spam question Using speakup and emacspeak together Tommy Moore ` Dave Hunt ` Thomas Ward @ ` Rodney Clowdus ` Steve Holmes 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Rodney Clowdus @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Have any one else on this list gotten a spam e-mail from "hopeyou@getrich.com" ? The from: and the to: all say hopeyou@getrich.com. It's puzzling the fire out of me as to how it wound up in my mailbox when it was mailed to hopeyou@getrich.com. I use pine as my e-mail program and this spam does not indicate with the + sign that it was an e-mail sent directly to my address as suppose to the list. I'm assuming that it may be posted to this or another list. This is the first time that I have had this happen to me. I've had spam before, but they were either mailed to the list or to my personal e-mail address. I used to never get spam, but over the last few months it's slowly creeping in to the tune of one a week. Maybe some of you folks on the list are smart enough to keep out the spam. I hate to have to change my e-mail address if this spams grows like a virus. I hope there's a way to stop this before it gets out of control. Thanks in advance for any tips that can keep the e-mail traffic clear. Rodney The Weaving Beaver rclowdus@kcnet.com "Chop your own firewood and it will warm you twice." "Weave your own cloth and it will reward you twice." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: spam question ` spam question Rodney Clowdus @ ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup They might be using the Bcc: field or there may be a way to embed your address in the envelope area as is done by list software. I also wonder if Pine's + sign applies to Bcc as well as CC header fields. Another note about this spam stuff, It is worth a try to expand the headers with pine's h command and see where the mail originated from. Once this is found, then forward the mail with headers expanded to abuse@<provider> where provider is the originating source. I've successfully stopped some spam this way. Unfortunately, some spam gets here without *ANYTHING* in the headers. God knows how that got here but I couldn't do anything with that one. Also, simply ignoring them eventually works too unless it got so out of hand that ignoring isn't bareable. On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Rodney Clowdus wrote: > Have any one else on this list gotten a spam e-mail from > "hopeyou@getrich.com" ? The from: and the to: all say > hopeyou@getrich.com. It's puzzling the fire out of me as to how it wound > up in my mailbox when it was mailed to hopeyou@getrich.com. I use pine as > my e-mail program and this spam does not indicate with the + sign that it > was an e-mail sent directly to my address as suppose to the list. I'm > assuming that it may be posted to this or another list. This is the first > time that I have had this happen to me. I've had spam before, but they > were either mailed to the list or to my personal e-mail address. I used > to never get spam, but over the last few months it's slowly creeping in to > the tune of one a week. > Maybe some of you folks on the list are smart enough to keep out > the spam. I hate to have to change my e-mail address if this spams grows > like a virus. I hope there's a way to stop this before it gets out of > control. Thanks in advance for any tips that can keep the e-mail traffic > clear. > Rodney > > The Weaving Beaver > rclowdus@kcnet.com > "Chop your own firewood and it will warm you twice." > "Weave your own cloth and it will reward you twice." > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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