question for GRML users

question for GRML users

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

Greetings!  This question's particularly for people who have installed GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night.  (I may return to Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another matter.)

>From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it seems GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then makes bootable.  Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, small boot partition?  I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home partition if I can.  I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends up being that I can't install GRML that way.  Thanks!

Al

Re: question for GRML users

[Chris Norman]

Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install grml 
to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in?

HTH,

Chris Norman
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From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: question for GRML users


> Greetings!  This question's particularly for people who have installed 
> GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night.  (I may return to 
> Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing 
> wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another 
> matter.)
>
> From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it seems 
> GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then makes 
> bootable.  Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, 
> small boot partition?  I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home 
> partition if I can.  I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends up 
> being that I can't install GRML that way.  Thanks!
>
> Al
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Re: question for GRML users

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

I tried that first.  I didn't see a way to put the things that would belong
there in the /boot partition I'd made and put the rest in the /root one.
Unless I'm wrong, this is how Fedora and at least some other versions of
Linux get installed.  My understanding is that this is a way to give what
you need for booting up--at least much of it--some extra protection against
corruption.  (My FC2, which was installed for me where I'd bought the
computer, had a small boot partition, a swap one, and the root one where
everything else was.  I wanted to add a home one this time because of common
advice.)

Thanks for the reply, though, and more thoughts of course welcome,
especially if I'm getting something wrong here.

Al

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: question for GRML users


> Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install
grml
> to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in?
>
> HTH,
>
> Chris Norman
> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk -->
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM
> Subject: question for GRML users
>
>
> > Greetings!  This question's particularly for people who have installed
> > GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night.  (I may return to
> > Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing
> > wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another
> > matter.)
> >
> > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it seems
> > GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then
makes
> > bootable.  Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate,
> > small boot partition?  I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home
> > partition if I can.  I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends up
> > being that I can't install GRML that way.  Thanks!
> >
> > Al
> > _______________________________________________
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Re: question for GRML users

[Chris Norman]

You're absolutely right, I forgot about all the stuff in them LOL. Why not 
give Ubuntu a go? It's all the rage at the minute.

Chris Norman
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: question for GRML users


>I tried that first.  I didn't see a way to put the things that would belong
> there in the /boot partition I'd made and put the rest in the /root one.
> Unless I'm wrong, this is how Fedora and at least some other versions of
> Linux get installed.  My understanding is that this is a way to give what
> you need for booting up--at least much of it--some extra protection 
> against
> corruption.  (My FC2, which was installed for me where I'd bought the
> computer, had a small boot partition, a swap one, and the root one where
> everything else was.  I wanted to add a home one this time because of 
> common
> advice.)
>
> Thanks for the reply, though, and more thoughts of course welcome,
> especially if I'm getting something wrong here.
>
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: question for GRML users
>
>
>> Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install
> grml
>> to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in?
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Chris Norman
>> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk -->
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM
>> Subject: question for GRML users
>>
>>
>> > Greetings!  This question's particularly for people who have installed
>> > GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night.  (I may return to
>> > Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing
>> > wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another
>> > matter.)
>> >
>> > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it 
>> > seems
>> > GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then
> makes
>> > bootable.  Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate,
>> > small boot partition?  I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and 
>> > /home
>> > partition if I can.  I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends 
>> > up
>> > being that I can't install GRML that way.  Thanks!
>> >
>> > Al
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
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Re: question for GRML users

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

I might try Ubuntu.  Still hoping I can get FC6 installed and working, but
we'll see.

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: question for GRML users


> You're absolutely right, I forgot about all the stuff in them LOL. Why not
> give Ubuntu a go? It's all the rage at the minute.
>
> Chris Norman
> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk -->
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: question for GRML users
>
>
> >I tried that first.  I didn't see a way to put the things that would
belong
> > there in the /boot partition I'd made and put the rest in the /root one.
> > Unless I'm wrong, this is how Fedora and at least some other versions of
> > Linux get installed.  My understanding is that this is a way to give
what
> > you need for booting up--at least much of it--some extra protection
> > against
> > corruption.  (My FC2, which was installed for me where I'd bought the
> > computer, had a small boot partition, a swap one, and the root one where
> > everything else was.  I wanted to add a home one this time because of
> > common
> > advice.)
> >
> > Thanks for the reply, though, and more thoughts of course welcome,
> > especially if I'm getting something wrong here.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: question for GRML users
> >
> >
> >> Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install
> > grml
> >> to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in?
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Chris Norman
> >> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk -->
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM
> >> Subject: question for GRML users
> >>
> >>
> >> > Greetings!  This question's particularly for people who have
installed
> >> > GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night.  (I may return to
> >> > Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's
doing
> >> > wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another
> >> > matter.)
> >> >
> >> > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it
> >> > seems
> >> > GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then
> > makes
> >> > bootable.  Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a
separate,
> >> > small boot partition?  I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and
> >> > /home
> >> > partition if I can.  I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends
> >> > up
> >> > being that I can't install GRML that way.  Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Al
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Speakup mailing list
> >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: question for GRML users

[Michael Prokop]

* Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote:

> From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it
> seems GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which
> it then makes bootable.

People are supposed to adjust their setup on their own, yes.

> Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, small
> boot partition?  I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home
> partition if I can.  I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it
> ends up being that I can't install GRML that way.  Thanks!

Just create the according partitions.  Assuming you want to use
/dev/hda2 as your /home partition run something like (depends on
your setup and needs of course):

mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2
cp -a /home/* /mnt/hda2/
umount /mnt/hda2

and adjust /etc/fstab then (/dev/hda2 /home ....).

-mika-
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uestion for GRML users

[Buddy Brannan]

Here's another GRML question...

Can someone point me at some docs for getting USB working? 

I have this MP3 player, specifically an iAudio X5, which should just
detect as another hard drive...it did with Fedora, anyway...and I want
to get it working with my grml installation so I can stick some data
on it. Of course, I never have got my had around USB under Linux
anyway in the bunch of years I've been playing with Linux, so I could
use the help...

lsmod shows that usbcore, pci_hotplug, and ohci_hcd are loaded in the
kernel. The motherboard is a SIS chipset. 

I have a feeling I should also have usb-storage, but even modprobe for
it and loading it doesn't get the drive recognized. I know I'm leaving
out a critical step somewhere. 
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Re: question for GRML users

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

Mika, thanks!

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Prokop" <mika@grml.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: question for GRML users


* Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote:

> From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it
> seems GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which
> it then makes bootable.

People are supposed to adjust their setup on their own, yes.

> Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, small
> boot partition?  I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home
> partition if I can.  I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it
> ends up being that I can't install GRML that way.  Thanks!

Just create the according partitions.  Assuming you want to use
/dev/hda2 as your /home partition run something like (depends on
your setup and needs of course):

mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2
cp -a /home/* /mnt/hda2/
umount /mnt/hda2

and adjust /etc/fstab then (/dev/hda2 /home ....).

-mika-
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Re: uestion for GRML users

[Michael Prokop]

* Buddy Brannan <buddy@brannan.name> wrote:

> Here's another GRML question...

Are you using grml 0.9?

> Can someone point me at some docs for getting USB working? 

> I have this MP3 player, specifically an iAudio X5, which should just
> detect as another hard drive...it did with Fedora, anyway...and I want
> to get it working with my grml installation so I can stick some data
> on it. Of course, I never have got my had around USB under Linux
> anyway in the bunch of years I've been playing with Linux, so I could
> use the help...

> lsmod shows that usbcore, pci_hotplug, and ohci_hcd are loaded in the
> kernel. The motherboard is a SIS chipset. 

> I have a feeling I should also have usb-storage, but even modprobe for
> it and loading it doesn't get the drive recognized. I know I'm leaving
> out a critical step somewhere. 

What's inside /etc/fstab?
What's in the syslog when you plug in the device?

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Re: uestion for GRML users

[Buddy Brannan]

On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:41:17PM +0100, Michael Prokop wrote:
> Are you using grml 0.9?

Well--I've done a dist-upgrade since I installed 0.8, so I guess the answer is....maybe?


> 
> What's inside /etc/fstab?

Nothing that looks vaguely USB-like:

/dev/hda1  /  ext3  errors=remount-ro  0 1
/dev/hdb2 /home ext3 defaults 0 2
# /etc/fstab - static file system information
# <filesystem> <mountpoint>   <type> <options>                             <dump> <pass>
proc           /proc          proc   defaults                               0      0
none           /proc/bus/usb  usbfs  defaults,noauto                        0      0
sysfs          /sys           sysfs  defaults                               0      0
devpts         /dev/pts       devpts mode=0622                              0      0
/dev/fd0       /mnt/floppy    auto   users,noauto,exec                      0      0
/dev/external  /mnt/external  auto   users,noauto,exec,rw,uid=davros,gid=davros 0      0
/dev/external1 /mnt/external1 auto   users,noauto,exec,rw,uid=davros,gid=davros 0      0
/dev/cdrom     /mnt/cdrom     auto   users,noauto,exec,ro                   0      0
/dev/dvd       /mnt/dvd       auto   users,noauto,exec,ro                   0      0
# some other examples:
# /dev/hda1       /Grml        ext3    dev,suid,user,noauto 0  2
# //1.2.3.4/pub   /smb/pub     smbfs   defaults,user,noauto,uid=davros,gid=davros 0 0
# linux:/pub      /beer        nfs     defaults             0  0
# tmpfs           /tmp         tmpfs   size=300M            0  0
#
# Warning! Please do *not* change any lines below because they are auto-generated by rebuildfstab!
# If you want to disable rebuildfstab set CONFIG_FSTAB='no' in /etc/grml/autoconfig!
# Added by GRML
/dev/hda2 none swap defaults 0 0
# Added by GRML
/dev/hdb1 none swap defaults 0 0
# Added by GRML
LABEL=/home /mnt/home ext3 noauto,user,dev,suid,exec 0 0 # /dev/hdb2

> What's in the syslog when you plug in the device?

Dec 12 18:53:48 dalek kernel: ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.3: wakeup
Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #2 chosen from 1 choice
Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb-storage: device found at 3
Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: Vendor: TOSHIBA   Model: MK3006GAL         Rev: BY10
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB)
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 4a 00 00
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB)
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 4a 00 00
Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through
Dec 12 18:53:56 dalek kernel: sda: sda1
Dec 12 18:53:56 dalek kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
Dec 12 18:53:56 dalek kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete

So looks like it's detected.

Uh. Well spank my ass and call me Charlie...it worked! I think I had to load usb-storage manually and maybe didn't unload it. Anyway. Never mind, I guess :)