* question for GRML users
@ Albert E. Sten-Clanton
` Chris Norman
` Michael Prokop
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Albert E. Sten-Clanton @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Greetings! This question's particularly for people who have installed GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night. (I may return to Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another matter.)
>From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it seems GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then makes bootable. Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, small boot partition? I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home partition if I can. I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends up being that I can't install GRML that way. Thanks!
Al
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread* Re: question for GRML users question for GRML users Albert E. Sten-Clanton @ ` Chris Norman ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton ` Michael Prokop 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Chris Norman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install grml to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in? HTH, Chris Norman <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: question for GRML users > Greetings! This question's particularly for people who have installed > GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night. (I may return to > Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing > wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another > matter.) > > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it seems > GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then makes > bootable. Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, > small boot partition? I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home > partition if I can. I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends up > being that I can't install GRML that way. Thanks! > > Al > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: question for GRML users ` Chris Norman @ ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton ` Chris Norman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Albert E. Sten-Clanton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I tried that first. I didn't see a way to put the things that would belong there in the /boot partition I'd made and put the rest in the /root one. Unless I'm wrong, this is how Fedora and at least some other versions of Linux get installed. My understanding is that this is a way to give what you need for booting up--at least much of it--some extra protection against corruption. (My FC2, which was installed for me where I'd bought the computer, had a small boot partition, a swap one, and the root one where everything else was. I wanted to add a home one this time because of common advice.) Thanks for the reply, though, and more thoughts of course welcome, especially if I'm getting something wrong here. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: question for GRML users > Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install grml > to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in? > > HTH, > > Chris Norman > <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM > Subject: question for GRML users > > > > Greetings! This question's particularly for people who have installed > > GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night. (I may return to > > Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing > > wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another > > matter.) > > > > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it seems > > GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then makes > > bootable. Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, > > small boot partition? I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home > > partition if I can. I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends up > > being that I can't install GRML that way. Thanks! > > > > Al > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006 > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: question for GRML users ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton @ ` Chris Norman ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Chris Norman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You're absolutely right, I forgot about all the stuff in them LOL. Why not give Ubuntu a go? It's all the rage at the minute. Chris Norman <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: Re: question for GRML users >I tried that first. I didn't see a way to put the things that would belong > there in the /boot partition I'd made and put the rest in the /root one. > Unless I'm wrong, this is how Fedora and at least some other versions of > Linux get installed. My understanding is that this is a way to give what > you need for booting up--at least much of it--some extra protection > against > corruption. (My FC2, which was installed for me where I'd bought the > computer, had a small boot partition, a swap one, and the root one where > everything else was. I wanted to add a home one this time because of > common > advice.) > > Thanks for the reply, though, and more thoughts of course welcome, > especially if I'm getting something wrong here. > > Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: question for GRML users > > >> Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install > grml >> to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in? >> >> HTH, >> >> Chris Norman >> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM >> Subject: question for GRML users >> >> >> > Greetings! This question's particularly for people who have installed >> > GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night. (I may return to >> > Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing >> > wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another >> > matter.) >> > >> > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it >> > seems >> > GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then > makes >> > bootable. Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, >> > small boot partition? I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and >> > /home >> > partition if I can. I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends >> > up >> > being that I can't install GRML that way. Thanks! >> > >> > Al >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: >> 12/9/2006 >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: question for GRML users ` Chris Norman @ ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Albert E. Sten-Clanton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I might try Ubuntu. Still hoping I can get FC6 installed and working, but we'll see. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:39 PM Subject: Re: question for GRML users > You're absolutely right, I forgot about all the stuff in them LOL. Why not > give Ubuntu a go? It's all the rage at the minute. > > Chris Norman > <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:33 PM > Subject: Re: question for GRML users > > > >I tried that first. I didn't see a way to put the things that would belong > > there in the /boot partition I'd made and put the rest in the /root one. > > Unless I'm wrong, this is how Fedora and at least some other versions of > > Linux get installed. My understanding is that this is a way to give what > > you need for booting up--at least much of it--some extra protection > > against > > corruption. (My FC2, which was installed for me where I'd bought the > > computer, had a small boot partition, a swap one, and the root one where > > everything else was. I wanted to add a home one this time because of > > common > > advice.) > > > > Thanks for the reply, though, and more thoughts of course welcome, > > especially if I'm getting something wrong here. > > > > Al > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Norman" <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:55 PM > > Subject: Re: question for GRML users > > > > > >> Why not just use fdisk on the live CD, create your partitions, install > > grml > >> to one of them, and then update fstab when you log in? > >> > >> HTH, > >> > >> Chris Norman > >> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> > >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > >> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:59 PM > >> Subject: question for GRML users > >> > >> > >> > Greetings! This question's particularly for people who have installed > >> > GRML on their hard drives, which I did last night. (I may return to > >> > Fedora if I can find out either what I'm doing wrong or what it's doing > >> > wrong when I try to install it via the CD images, but that's another > >> > matter.) > >> > > >> > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it > >> > seems > >> > GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which it then > > makes > >> > bootable. Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, > >> > small boot partition? I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and > >> > /home > >> > partition if I can. I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it ends > >> > up > >> > being that I can't install GRML that way. Thanks! > >> > > >> > Al > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Speakup mailing list > >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: > >> 12/9/2006 > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006 > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: question for GRML users question for GRML users Albert E. Sten-Clanton ` Chris Norman @ ` Michael Prokop ` uestion " Buddy Brannan ` question " Albert E. Sten-Clanton 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Michael Prokop @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup * Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote: > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it > seems GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which > it then makes bootable. People are supposed to adjust their setup on their own, yes. > Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, small > boot partition? I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home > partition if I can. I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it > ends up being that I can't install GRML that way. Thanks! Just create the according partitions. Assuming you want to use /dev/hda2 as your /home partition run something like (depends on your setup and needs of course): mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 cp -a /home/* /mnt/hda2/ umount /mnt/hda2 and adjust /etc/fstab then (/dev/hda2 /home ....). -mika- -- ,'"`. http://www.michael-prokop.at/ ( grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins `._,' http://www.grml.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* uestion for GRML users ` Michael Prokop @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Michael Prokop ` question " Albert E. Sten-Clanton 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Here's another GRML question... Can someone point me at some docs for getting USB working? I have this MP3 player, specifically an iAudio X5, which should just detect as another hard drive...it did with Fedora, anyway...and I want to get it working with my grml installation so I can stick some data on it. Of course, I never have got my had around USB under Linux anyway in the bunch of years I've been playing with Linux, so I could use the help... lsmod shows that usbcore, pci_hotplug, and ohci_hcd are loaded in the kernel. The motherboard is a SIS chipset. I have a feeling I should also have usb-storage, but even modprobe for it and loading it doesn't get the drive recognized. I know I'm leaving out a critical step somewhere. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV: Executive In Training! Independent Watkins Manager #361534 Shop our catalog of over 350 products for your home and health...and check out our fabulous 2006 Holiday Gift and Entertaining Line! http://www.tastyshop.net ...And see how a Watkins business can improve your life in our free Ebook: http://www.tastybiz.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: uestion for GRML users ` uestion " Buddy Brannan @ ` Michael Prokop ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Michael Prokop @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup * Buddy Brannan <buddy@brannan.name> wrote: > Here's another GRML question... Are you using grml 0.9? > Can someone point me at some docs for getting USB working? > I have this MP3 player, specifically an iAudio X5, which should just > detect as another hard drive...it did with Fedora, anyway...and I want > to get it working with my grml installation so I can stick some data > on it. Of course, I never have got my had around USB under Linux > anyway in the bunch of years I've been playing with Linux, so I could > use the help... > lsmod shows that usbcore, pci_hotplug, and ohci_hcd are loaded in the > kernel. The motherboard is a SIS chipset. > I have a feeling I should also have usb-storage, but even modprobe for > it and loading it doesn't get the drive recognized. I know I'm leaving > out a critical step somewhere. What's inside /etc/fstab? What's in the syslog when you plug in the device? -mika- -- ,'"`. http://www.michael-prokop.at/ ( grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins `._,' http://www.grml.org/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: uestion for GRML users ` Michael Prokop @ ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:41:17PM +0100, Michael Prokop wrote: > Are you using grml 0.9? Well--I've done a dist-upgrade since I installed 0.8, so I guess the answer is....maybe? > > What's inside /etc/fstab? Nothing that looks vaguely USB-like: /dev/hda1 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hdb2 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 # /etc/fstab - static file system information # <filesystem> <mountpoint> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults,noauto 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0622 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto users,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/external /mnt/external auto users,noauto,exec,rw,uid=davros,gid=davros 0 0 /dev/external1 /mnt/external1 auto users,noauto,exec,rw,uid=davros,gid=davros 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 # some other examples: # /dev/hda1 /Grml ext3 dev,suid,user,noauto 0 2 # //1.2.3.4/pub /smb/pub smbfs defaults,user,noauto,uid=davros,gid=davros 0 0 # linux:/pub /beer nfs defaults 0 0 # tmpfs /tmp tmpfs size=300M 0 0 # # Warning! Please do *not* change any lines below because they are auto-generated by rebuildfstab! # If you want to disable rebuildfstab set CONFIG_FSTAB='no' in /etc/grml/autoconfig! # Added by GRML /dev/hda2 none swap defaults 0 0 # Added by GRML /dev/hdb1 none swap defaults 0 0 # Added by GRML LABEL=/home /mnt/home ext3 noauto,user,dev,suid,exec 0 0 # /dev/hdb2 > What's in the syslog when you plug in the device? Dec 12 18:53:48 dalek kernel: ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.3: wakeup Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #2 chosen from 1 choice Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb-storage: device found at 3 Dec 12 18:53:49 dalek kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: Vendor: TOSHIBA Model: MK3006GAL Rev: BY10 Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB) Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 4a 00 00 Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: SCSI device sda: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB) Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 00 4a 00 00 Dec 12 18:53:54 dalek kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Dec 12 18:53:56 dalek kernel: sda: sda1 Dec 12 18:53:56 dalek kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda Dec 12 18:53:56 dalek kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete So looks like it's detected. Uh. Well spank my ass and call me Charlie...it worked! I think I had to load usb-storage manually and maybe didn't unload it. Anyway. Never mind, I guess :) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: question for GRML users ` Michael Prokop ` uestion " Buddy Brannan @ ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Albert E. Sten-Clanton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Mika, thanks! Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Prokop" <mika@grml.org> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: Re: question for GRML users * Albert E. Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net> wrote: > From what I've read and what the GRML install looks like to me, it > seems GRML is designed to install entirely on one partition, which > it then makes bootable. People are supposed to adjust their setup on their own, yes. > Has anyone installed it instead so that there's a separate, small > boot partition? I'd like to have a /boot, /root, /swap, and /home > partition if I can. I'll be grateful for any advice, even if it > ends up being that I can't install GRML that way. Thanks! Just create the according partitions. Assuming you want to use /dev/hda2 as your /home partition run something like (depends on your setup and needs of course): mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 cp -a /home/* /mnt/hda2/ umount /mnt/hda2 and adjust /etc/fstab then (/dev/hda2 /home ....). -mika- -- ,'"`. http://www.michael-prokop.at/ ( grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins `._,' http://www.grml.org/ _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 12/11/2006 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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