Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Arthur Pirika]

Hi everyone, Well I guess the subject pretty much sums it up.
Is there any form of speakup, or similar, for BSD systems? I know that bsd is quite a bit different to linux at the kernel level, so has anything like this been done before?

Thanks,
Arthur.

Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Gregory Nowak]

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Don't know about freebsd, but I'm using a netbsd box here via a serial
console and via ssh. I imagine you should be able to run emacs speak,
yaser, and so on on it, though I've not done that. You can install the
system via a serial console, so the install procedure is accessible as
well. Hth.

Greg


On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:05:03AM +1200, Arthur Pirika wrote:
> Hi everyone, Well I guess the subject pretty much sums it up.
> Is there any form of speakup, or similar, for BSD systems? I know that bsd is quite a bit different to linux at the kernel level, so has anything like this been done before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Arthur.
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[Karen Lewellen]

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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[hank smith]

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility


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> Don't know about freebsd, but I'm using a netbsd box here via a serial
> console and via ssh. I imagine you should be able to run emacs speak,
> yaser, and so on on it, though I've not done that. You can install the
> system via a serial console, so the install procedure is accessible as
> well. Hth.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:05:03AM +1200, Arthur Pirika wrote:
>> Hi everyone, Well I guess the subject pretty much sums it up.
>> Is there any form of speakup, or similar, for BSD systems? I know that 
>> bsd is quite a bit different to linux at the kernel level, so has 
>> anything like this been done before?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arthur.
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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Gregory Nowak]

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I'm running netbsd on a regular x86 PC. Not sure what a video game
console has to do with anything here. Care to elaborate your question?

Greg


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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[BlindTech]

now going on asumption here and i may be off the mark totally cuse i only
ssh into a remote bsd box. but, since gnome is available for freebsd can't
you use gnapernicus on it?
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From: "Arthur Pirika" <apirika@orcon.net.nz>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility


Hi everyone, Well I guess the subject pretty much sums it up.
Is there any form of speakup, or similar, for BSD systems? I know that bsd
is quite a bit different to linux at the kernel level, so has anything like
this been done before?

Thanks,
Arthur.
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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Gregory Nowak]

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Yes, you should be able to use gnome/gnopernicus on bsd systems,
though due to the age of my netbsd box which isn't powerful enough for
gnopernicus/gnome, I haven't done this.

Greg


On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 12:15:22AM -0700, BlindTech wrote:
> now going on asumption here and i may be off the mark totally cuse i only
> ssh into a remote bsd box. but, since gnome is available for freebsd can't
> you use gnapernicus on it?
> Blind Tech
> NEW! website: http://epyd.homelinux.net
> EPYD the only place to be!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Pirika" <apirika@orcon.net.nz>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:05 PM
> Subject: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility
> 
> 
> Hi everyone, Well I guess the subject pretty much sums it up.
> Is there any form of speakup, or similar, for BSD systems? I know that bsd
> is quite a bit different to linux at the kernel level, so has anything like
> this been done before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Arthur.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Arthur Pirika]

So, this brings up an interesting question. Is it possible to install BSD 
using, say, ssh, or do we have to use a serial console for that.

Thanks,
Arthur.

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility


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> Yes, you should be able to use gnome/gnopernicus on bsd systems,
> though due to the age of my netbsd box which isn't powerful enough for
> gnopernicus/gnome, I haven't done this.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 12:15:22AM -0700, BlindTech wrote:
>> now going on asumption here and i may be off the mark totally cuse i only
>> ssh into a remote bsd box. but, since gnome is available for freebsd 
>> can't
>> you use gnapernicus on it?
>> Blind Tech
>> NEW! website: http://epyd.homelinux.net
>> EPYD the only place to be!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arthur Pirika" <apirika@orcon.net.nz>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:05 PM
>> Subject: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone, Well I guess the subject pretty much sums it up.
>> Is there any form of speakup, or similar, for BSD systems? I know that 
>> bsd
>> is quite a bit different to linux at the kernel level, so has anything 
>> like
>> this been done before?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arthur.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Gregory Nowak]

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Depends what bsd you're talking about. I don't know anything about
openbsd. I was told by someone that freebsd has a graphical install,
which would mean that the install process is inaccessible, but I
myself have not confirmed this, so don't take my word for it. I can
tell you that I have installed netbsd using a serial console, and as
far as I understand the documentation, a network install via ssh or
telnet is not possible. If it is in fact possible, then I'd like to
know how.

Greg


On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:52:36AM +1200, Arthur Pirika wrote:
> So, this brings up an interesting question. Is it possible to install BSD 
> using, say, ssh, or do we have to use a serial console for that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Arthur.
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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[David Csercsics]

According to the docs that I looked at, FreeBSD's sysinstall is text-based
and you can install over a serial console. They may have a graphical
install as well I don't know.

Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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Have you tried YASR with flite?  If you can get sound working in BSD, (good
luck), YASR should be compatible.

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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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FreeBSD is supposed to install via a serial console from what I understand.  And
the installer is text based, or at least it was when I tried installing it, 
(with assistance) on my laptop.  The only reason I didn't keep it is that it
refused to run my sound card, therefore it was useless to me as a laptop OS.

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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Gregory Nowak]

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No, I haven't tried yasr with flite, since I am perfectly comfortable
using ssh with speakup, and the machine is a desktop, so it's not
going anywhere. As for the soundcard, my soundblaster 32 awe worked
just fine, until I replaced it with a soundblaster 128 card, which
works fine as well.

Greg


On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:05:22PM -0400, Lorenzo Taylor wrote:
> Have you tried YASR with flite?  If you can get sound working in BSD, (good
> luck), YASR should be compatible.
> 
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Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Tom Moore]

I've installed FreeBSD over serial console before.
Had to get a modified boot floppy for this though.
It can be installed if you use something like minicom on one end and the FreeBSD installer at the other.
One problem I had though was after the install and everything I disconnected the serial cable and the system wouldn't boot on its own.
Never really figured out how to stop sending the boot messages to the serial port after I was finished using it nad didn't need to have serial access anymore.
One more note I can think of. You can only do the install using the first serial port on the FreeBSD machine.

Tom

On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:22:56PM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Depends what bsd you're talking about. I don't know anything about
> openbsd. I was told by someone that freebsd has a graphical install,
> which would mean that the install process is inaccessible, but I
> myself have not confirmed this, so don't take my word for it. I can
> tell you that I have installed netbsd using a serial console, and as
> far as I understand the documentation, a network install via ssh or
> telnet is not possible. If it is in fact possible, then I'd like to
> know how.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:52:36AM +1200, Arthur Pirika wrote:
> > So, this brings up an interesting question. Is it possible to install BSD 
> > using, say, ssh, or do we have to use a serial console for that.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Arthur.
> > 
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RE: Slightly OT: FreeBSD accessibility

[Andrew Hodgson]

Hi,

I did search this a bit and came up with a bit of a blank - I would have
gone this route if I could find something.  I am using a Debian system
now, mainly because the people I know who use BSD also seem to use
Debian a lot.

Andrew.