Re: Synths with speakup.

Re: Synths with speakup.

[Darragh]

Is that the old card with the volume nob and an ear phone socket under it?  

I think I have one of them cards but it could be a jeminy.

would that work?

again its a really old card.

Darragh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby@tjfisher.co.uk>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:07 PM
Subject: Synths with speakup.


> Hi folks.
> 
> Obviously (because I'm using it) the apolo ii works fine with speakup.  
> Does anyone know if the Europa internal card also works? This was an isa 
> card made by Dolfin systems which  was exactly the same as the apolo ii, 
> except it was an internal isa card.  I think it just showed itself as 
> another serial port to the operating system, but cannot be sure.  In 
> theory it should work but I need to be sure, as if so then I can have a 
> second pc upstairs in my loft as I've been ofvered an old system with a 
> Europa card for GBP100.
> 
> Also, a friend has an old Decktalk PC 1 card, will this work with 
> Speakup??
> 
> Kind regards.
> 
> 
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Synths with speakup.

[Toby Fisher]

Hi folks.

Obviously (because I'm using it) the apolo ii works fine with speakup.  
Does anyone know if the Europa internal card also works? This was an isa 
card made by Dolfin systems which  was exactly the same as the apolo ii, 
except it was an internal isa card.  I think it just showed itself as 
another serial port to the operating system, but cannot be sure.  In 
theory it should work but I need to be sure, as if so then I can have a 
second pc upstairs in my loft as I've been ofvered an old system with a 
Europa card for GBP100.

Also, a friend has an old Decktalk PC 1 card, will this work with 
Speakup??

Kind regards.


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Re: Synths with speakup.

[Toby Fisher]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Darragh wrote:

> Is that the old card with the volume nob and an ear phone socket under it?  
> 
> I think I have one of them cards but it could be a jeminy.
> 
> would that work?
> 
> again its a really old card.

I think the key to answering this question depends on whether the Gemini 
emulates an apolo i or ii.  The apolo i cloans won't work, but there's a 
chance that the ii cloans just might, hence my query to the list.

Cheers;.


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Re: Synths with speakup.

[Hart Larry]

Hi Toby:  I seem to be running a Dec-Talk-PC 1 with speakup.  Sure it works,
but if you like to arrow alot through a screen, the Dec-Talk is very slow to be
interrupted.  Also, there are some oddities in for example, version 4.1 c.
When a word finishes with a sound of a vowel, it is jammed together with the
beginning of the next word, so he took   becomes hetook.  Also, if there are 2
consecutive punctuations, I think they are spoken.  If numbers-and-letters are
mixed in the same word, they are spoken charictor by charictor.
And lastly, I don't know of a way to ajust how Dec-Talk is handling numbers?
Hart

Re: Synths with speakup.

[Toby Fisher]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Hart Larry wrote:

> Hi Toby:  I seem to be running a Dec-Talk-PC 1 with speakup.  Sure it works,
> but if you like to arrow alot through a screen, the Dec-Talk is very slow to be
> interrupted.  Also, there are some oddities in for example, version 4.1 c.
> When a word finishes with a sound of a vowel, it is jammed together with the
> beginning of the next word, so he took   becomes hetook.  Also, if there are 2
> consecutive punctuations, I think they are spoken.  If numbers-and-letters are
> mixed in the same word, they are spoken charictor by charictor.
> And lastly, I don't know of a way to ajust how Dec-Talk is handling numbers?

Ok, well thanks for that anyway, at least it'll be a start for my friend 
until we can come up with something better.

Cheers.

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Re: Synths with speakup.

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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The DEC PC card will work fine. As for the other, I'm not real sure about that. You'll need the hdload program and firmware to make the DEC PC work.
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What's this "any" key I'm supposed to press???
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Toby Fisher 
  To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
  Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:07 AM
  Subject: Synths with speakup.


  Hi folks.

  Obviously (because I'm using it) the apolo ii works fine with speakup.  
  Does anyone know if the Europa internal card also works? This was an isa 
  card made by Dolfin systems which  was exactly the same as the apolo ii, 
  except it was an internal isa card.  I think it just showed itself as 
  another serial port to the operating system, but cannot be sure.  In 
  theory it should work but I need to be sure, as if so then I can have a 
  second pc upstairs in my loft as I've been ofvered an old system with a 
  Europa card for GBP100.

  Also, a friend has an old Decktalk PC 1 card, will this work with 
  Speakup??

  Kind regards.


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Re: Synths with speakup.

[Toby Fisher]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:

> The DEC PC card will work fine. As for the other, I'm not real sure
> about that. You'll need the hdload program and firmware to make the DEC
> PC work.

Hmmm, where do I get the firmware and hdload?

Cheers.

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Re: Synths with speakup.

[Kirk Reiser]

They are on the linux-speakup.org site.  Also I don't know if that
other Euro card or whatever will work.  I've never heard of it before
now.  My guess is it won't but who knows.

  Kirk

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important, need to get software synth running

[Darragh]

Hello.  I have fedora installed but speakup isn't speaking.  I think its
because of this apolo but am not sure.

I think I'm doomed.  when I use the lines
setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
modprobe speakup_{synth_keyword}
it tells me that modprobe has failed.

can I stress enough that I'm really anxious to get this working?  I think
the line for speakup is in grub somewhere.  can I find out where that is?

Thanks

Darragh

Re: important, need to get software synth running

[Janina Sajka]

Did you rsync? If so, you have the kernels with speakup included and
need to turn on almost with the command you sho, but not quite.

If you did not rsync, you need to download the kernel from the ftp site
appropriate to your cpu. and install it with rpm.

Since you're using an Apollo, your command is:

modprobe speakup_apolo

and nothing else. Note the bad spelling of "apolo."

To install the Speakup kernel you need to:

rpm -Uv [kernel.name]

Please note that all these examples with brackets/braces [kernel.name],
or {speakup_synth} are tokens. You don't type [speakup_synth], you
substitute the appropriate synth identifier as understood by the code
Speakup inserts in the kernel. Get that wrong, and you certainly will
not have speech.

So, for the Doubletalk internal it becomes:

modprobe speakup_dtlk

And for your Apollo it is as I gave it above, with the bad spelling and
all.

Darragh writes:
> From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> Hello.  I have fedora installed but speakup isn't speaking.  I think its
> because of this apolo but am not sure.
> 
> I think I'm doomed.  when I use the lines
> setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
> modprobe speakup_{synth_keyword}
> it tells me that modprobe has failed.
> 
> can I stress enough that I'm really anxious to get this working?  I think
> the line for speakup is in grub somewhere.  can I find out where that is?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Darragh
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Phone: (202) 408-8175

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American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
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Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
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Re: important, need to get software synth running

[Allan Shaw]

... the grub config file can be found at -
/boot/grub/grub.conf

At 08:49 11/12/03, you wrote:
>Hello.  I have fedora installed but speakup isn't speaking.  I think its
>because of this apolo but am not sure.
>
>I think I'm doomed.  when I use the lines
>setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
>modprobe speakup_{synth_keyword}
>it tells me that modprobe has failed.
>
>can I stress enough that I'm really anxious to get this working?  I think
>the line for speakup is in grub somewhere.  can I find out where that is?
>
>Thanks
>
>Darragh
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: important, need to get software synth running

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

What fun, not!  When Janina mentioned the traditionally bad spelling of 
Apollo in Speakup, I remembered that Kirk had just fixed that in the last 
few days.  So, I thought I'd check to see how it was spelled in the RPMS.  
It isn't spelled either way because it isn't there!  Sorry, Krister and 
Darragh.  I'll investigate and get back to the list.
-- 


Bill in Denver

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Did you rsync? If so, you have the kernels with speakup included and
> need to turn on almost with the command you sho, but not quite.
> 
> If you did not rsync, you need to download the kernel from the ftp site
> appropriate to your cpu. and install it with rpm.
> 
> Since you're using an Apollo, your command is:
> 
> modprobe speakup_apolo
> 
> and nothing else. Note the bad spelling of "apolo."
> 
> To install the Speakup kernel you need to:
> 
> rpm -Uv [kernel.name]
> 
> Please note that all these examples with brackets/braces [kernel.name],
> or {speakup_synth} are tokens. You don't type [speakup_synth], you
> substitute the appropriate synth identifier as understood by the code
> Speakup inserts in the kernel. Get that wrong, and you certainly will
> not have speech.
> 
> So, for the Doubletalk internal it becomes:
> 
> modprobe speakup_dtlk
> 
> And for your Apollo it is as I gave it above, with the bad spelling and
> all.
> 
> Darragh writes:
> > From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> > 
> > Hello.  I have fedora installed but speakup isn't speaking.  I think its
> > because of this apolo but am not sure.
> > 
> > I think I'm doomed.  when I use the lines
> > setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
> > modprobe speakup_{synth_keyword}
> > it tells me that modprobe has failed.
> > 
> > can I stress enough that I'm really anxious to get this working?  I think
> > the line for speakup is in grub somewhere.  can I find out where that is?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Darragh
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 	
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net		
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: important, need to get software synth running

[Darragh]

I'm in the process of compiling the apolo c code.  It says that its going to
take a *while*
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: important, need to get software synth running


> What fun, not!  When Janina mentioned the traditionally bad spelling of
> Apollo in Speakup, I remembered that Kirk had just fixed that in the last
> few days.  So, I thought I'd check to see how it was spelled in the RPMS.
> It isn't spelled either way because it isn't there!  Sorry, Krister and
> Darragh.  I'll investigate and get back to the list.
> -- 
>
>
> Bill in Denver
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > Did you rsync? If so, you have the kernels with speakup included and
> > need to turn on almost with the command you sho, but not quite.
> >
> > If you did not rsync, you need to download the kernel from the ftp site
> > appropriate to your cpu. and install it with rpm.
> >
> > Since you're using an Apollo, your command is:
> >
> > modprobe speakup_apolo
> >
> > and nothing else. Note the bad spelling of "apolo."
> >
> > To install the Speakup kernel you need to:
> >
> > rpm -Uv [kernel.name]
> >
> > Please note that all these examples with brackets/braces [kernel.name],
> > or {speakup_synth} are tokens. You don't type [speakup_synth], you
> > substitute the appropriate synth identifier as understood by the code
> > Speakup inserts in the kernel. Get that wrong, and you certainly will
> > not have speech.
> >
> > So, for the Doubletalk internal it becomes:
> >
> > modprobe speakup_dtlk
> >
> > And for your Apollo it is as I gave it above, with the bad spelling and
> > all.
> >
> > Darragh writes:
> > > From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> > >
> > > Hello.  I have fedora installed but speakup isn't speaking.  I think
its
> > > because of this apolo but am not sure.
> > >
> > > I think I'm doomed.  when I use the lines
> > > setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
> > > modprobe speakup_{synth_keyword}
> > > it tells me that modprobe has failed.
> > >
> > > can I stress enough that I'm really anxious to get this working?  I
think
> > > the line for speakup is in grub somewhere.  can I find out where that
is?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Darragh
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Janina Sajka
> > Email: janina@rednote.net
> > Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > Director, Technology Research and Development
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > http://www.afb.org
> >
> > Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> > Free Standards Group
> > http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: important, need to get software synth running

[Maurice A. Mines]

this thred has nothing to due with a software synth btw if it is about the 
aplo synth thin rredefine the subject line to reflact this. change the 
subject line? I read this list bast on the subject line. not content. 

Re: important, need to get software synth running

[Krister Ekstrom]

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Hi William,

On 12 Nov 2003 10:01:14  (my local time 18:01:14), you typed::
WFAW1377> It isn't spelled either way because it isn't
WFAW1377> there!  Sorry, Krister and
WFAW1377> Darragh.  I'll investigate and get back to the list.

Thanks, at least now i know that the synth hadn't gone bananas on
me...<smile>
Eagerly waiting.

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