* Required hardware forSpeakup @ Krekan ` John covici ` Jan Buchal 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Krekan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux and I am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I use talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with linux. I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on my home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. Thanx for response Krekan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Required hardware forSpeakup Required hardware forSpeakup Krekan @ ` John covici ` Krekan ` Jan Buchal 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: John covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Speakup will work with certain software synthesizers -- however the advantage of using hardware is that you get all the messages from bootup which you cannot do with any other operating system. Best way is to have some hardware to start and then configure a software synthesizer. on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux and I am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I use talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with linux. > I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on my home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. > Thanx for response > Krekan > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` John covici @ ` Krekan ` John covici ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Krekan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: covici, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It means that when I have hardware for the first later I can use the soundcard for talking software? Krekan ----- Original Message ----- From: John covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:17 PM Subject: Required hardware forSpeakup > Speakup will work with certain software synthesizers -- however the > advantage of using hardware is that you get all the messages from > bootup which you cannot do with any other operating system. Best way > is to have some hardware to start and then configure a software > synthesizer. > > > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > > Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux and I am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I use talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with linux. > > I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on my home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. > > Thanx for response > > Krekan > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > covici@ccs.covici.com > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > __________ Informacia od NOD32 1.1238 (20050930) __________ > > Tato sprava bola preverena antivirusovym systemom NOD32. > http://www.eset.sk > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Krekan @ ` John covici ` hank smith ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: John covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Krekan; +Cc: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux., covici I am not too sure of your question, but you can use speakup with a software synthesizer -- depending on your sound card speakup may not work if you are playing something through the card -- when you stop playing speakup will work again. Was this your question? on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > It means that when I have hardware for the first later I can use the > soundcard for talking software? > Krekan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:17 PM > Subject: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > > Speakup will work with certain software synthesizers -- however the > > advantage of using hardware is that you get all the messages from > > bootup which you cannot do with any other operating system. Best way > > is to have some hardware to start and then configure a software > > synthesizer. > > > > > > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > > > Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux and I > am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I use > talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with > linux. > > > I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on my > home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On > Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. > > > Thanx for response > > > Krekan > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > How do > > you spend it? > > > > John Covici > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > __________ Informacia od NOD32 1.1238 (20050930) __________ > > > > Tato sprava bola preverena antivirusovym systemom NOD32. > > http://www.eset.sk > > > > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` John covici @ ` hank smith ` Krekan ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: hank smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: covici, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. is there any documentation on getting this set up? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com> To: "Krekan" <krekan@netkosice.sk> Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; <covici@ccs.covici.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:40 AM Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup >I am not too sure of your question, but you can use speakup with a > software synthesizer -- depending on your sound card speakup may not > work if you are playing something through the card -- when you stop > playing speakup will work again. Was this your question? > > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > > It means that when I have hardware for the first later I can use the > > soundcard for talking software? > > Krekan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:17 PM > > Subject: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > > > > > Speakup will work with certain software synthesizers -- however the > > > advantage of using hardware is that you get all the messages from > > > bootup which you cannot do with any other operating system. Best way > > > is to have some hardware to start and then configure a software > > > synthesizer. > > > > > > > > > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > > > > Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux > > > and I > > am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I > > use > > talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with > > linux. > > > > I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on > > > my > > home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On > > Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. > > > > Thanx for response > > > > Krekan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > > How do > > > you spend it? > > > > > > John Covici > > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > __________ Informacia od NOD32 1.1238 (20050930) __________ > > > > > > Tato sprava bola preverena antivirusovym systemom NOD32. > > > http://www.eset.sk > > > > > > > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > covici@ccs.covici.com > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` hank smith @ ` Krekan ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Krekan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: hank smith, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. No, my question was when I have soundcardd why do I need additional Hardware? Krekan ----- Original Message ----- From: hank smith <hanksmith4@earthlink.net> To: <covici@ccs.covici.com>; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > is there any documentation on getting this set up? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com> > To: "Krekan" <krekan@netkosice.sk> > Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; > <covici@ccs.covici.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:40 AM > Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > >I am not too sure of your question, but you can use speakup with a > > software synthesizer -- depending on your sound card speakup may not > > work if you are playing something through the card -- when you stop > > playing speakup will work again. Was this your question? > > > > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > > > It means that when I have hardware for the first later I can use the > > > soundcard for talking software? > > > Krekan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: John covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> > > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:17 PM > > > Subject: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > > > > > > > > Speakup will work with certain software synthesizers -- however the > > > > advantage of using hardware is that you get all the messages from > > > > bootup which you cannot do with any other operating system. Best way > > > > is to have some hardware to start and then configure a software > > > > synthesizer. > > > > > > > > > > > > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > > > > > Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux > > > > and I > > > am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I > > > use > > > talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with > > > linux. > > > > > I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on > > > > my > > > home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On > > > Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. > > > > > Thanx for response > > > > > Krekan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > > > How do > > > > you spend it? > > > > > > > > John Covici > > > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Informacia od NOD32 1.1238 (20050930) __________ > > > > > > > > Tato sprava bola preverena antivirusovym systemom NOD32. > > > > http://www.eset.sk > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > How do > > you spend it? > > > > John Covici > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` hank smith ` Krekan @ ` Janina Sajka ` Lorenzo Taylor 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: hank smith, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. alsa => 1.0.9 uses something called dmix by default and solves the problem of multiple audio simultaneously. hank smith writes: > is there any documentation on getting this set up? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com> > To: "Krekan" <krekan@netkosice.sk> > Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; <covici@ccs.covici.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:40 AM > Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > >I am not too sure of your question, but you can use speakup with a > >software synthesizer -- depending on your sound card speakup may not > >work if you are playing something through the card -- when you stop > >playing speakup will work again. Was this your question? > > > >on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > >> It means that when I have hardware for the first later I can use the > >> soundcard for talking software? > >> Krekan > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: John covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> > >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:17 PM > >> Subject: Required hardware forSpeakup > >> > >> > >> > Speakup will work with certain software synthesizers -- however the > >> > advantage of using hardware is that you get all the messages from > >> > bootup which you cannot do with any other operating system. Best way > >> > is to have some hardware to start and then configure a software > >> > synthesizer. > >> > > >> > > >> > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > >> > > Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux > >> > and I > >> am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I > >> use > >> talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with > >> linux. > >> > > I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on > >> > my > >> home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On > >> Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. > >> > > Thanx for response > >> > > Krekan > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Speakup mailing list > >> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > >> > How do > >> > you spend it? > >> > > >> > John Covici > >> > covici@ccs.covici.com > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Speakup mailing list > >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > >> > > >> > __________ Informacia od NOD32 1.1238 (20050930) __________ > >> > > >> > Tato sprava bola preverena antivirusovym systemom NOD32. > >> > http://www.eset.sk > >> > > >> > > > > >-- > >Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > >How do > >you spend it? > > > > John Covici > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Janina Sajka @ ` Lorenzo Taylor ` Sina Bahram ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and at the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for that matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, either using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried this was a slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. Lorenzo - -- Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= =y1eN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* RE: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Lorenzo Taylor @ ` Sina Bahram ` hank smith ` (3 more replies) ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 4 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a blurb from a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, on the same sound card. I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic as that to work. Is it really that difficult? Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and at the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for that matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, either using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried this was a slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. Lorenzo - -- Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= =y1eN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Sina Bahram @ ` hank smith ` ace ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: hank smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. in windows no in linux yes don't ask me why ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: RE: Required hardware forSpeakup >I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 > things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? > > I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a blurb > from > a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, on the same > sound > card. > > I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic as > that to work. > > Is it really that difficult? > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and at > the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for that > matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, either > using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried this was a > slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. > > Lorenzo > - -- > Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted > before. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ > btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= > =y1eN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* RE: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Sina Bahram ` hank smith @ ` ace ` Sina Bahram ` (2 more replies) ` Lorenzo Taylor ` Janina Sajka 3 siblings, 3 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: ace @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It wasn't for me; I was able to play sound and listen to Flite at the same time on a clean Slackware 10.1 installation. I have a SB Live in that box. At 10:03 PM 10/2/2005, you wrote: >I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 >things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? > >I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a blurb from >a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, on the same sound >card. > >I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic as >that to work. > >Is it really that difficult? > >Take care, >Sina > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] >On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor >Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM >To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and at >the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for that >matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, either >using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried this was a >slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. > >Lorenzo >- -- >Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ >btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= >=y1eN >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* RE: Required hardware forSpeakup ` ace @ ` Sina Bahram ` Luke Yelavich ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Good to hear Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of ace Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 10:49 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: Required hardware forSpeakup It wasn't for me; I was able to play sound and listen to Flite at the same time on a clean Slackware 10.1 installation. I have a SB Live in that box. At 10:03 PM 10/2/2005, you wrote: >I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 >things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? > >I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a blurb >from a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, on the >same sound card. > >I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic >as that to work. > >Is it really that difficult? > >Take care, >Sina > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca >[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] >On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor >Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM >To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and >at the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for >that matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, >either using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried >this was a slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. > >Lorenzo >- -- >Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ >btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= >=y1eN >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` ace ` Sina Bahram @ ` Luke Yelavich ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Luke Yelavich @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 12:48:49PM EST, ace wrote: > It wasn't for me; I was able to play sound and listen to Flite at the > same time on a clean Slackware 10.1 installation. I have a SB Live > in that box. The SB Live is the reason why. Those cards are able to handle several playback instances at once, something which I wish other manufacturers would learn from. - -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso@themuso.com ICQ: 18444344 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQKZLjVefwtBjIM4RAq2qAJ9cMDQ5emsOUM62KsiXAqWG/Jp7BgCfWlSq MSbjKuqLs6RSanHm12e0ZJc= =3033 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` ace ` Sina Bahram ` Luke Yelavich @ ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. ace writes: > I have a SB Live > in that box. > I believe many of the SB cards mix on board. > At 10:03 PM 10/2/2005, you wrote: > >I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 > >things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? > > > >I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a blurb > >from > >a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, on the same > >sound > >card. > > > >I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic as > >that to work. > > > >Is it really that difficult? > > > >Take care, > >Sina > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > >[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > >On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor > >Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM > >To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > >Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and at > >the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for that > >matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, either > >using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried this was a > >slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. > > > >Lorenzo > >- -- > >Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted > >before. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > > >iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ > >btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= > >=y1eN > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Sina Bahram ` hank smith ` ace @ ` Lorenzo Taylor ` ace ` Janina Sajka 3 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Getting multiple things to talk to the same sound card can be that dificult. If you have a multichannel sound card, however, it is no problem at all. These would be your soundblaster compatible cards for the most part and a lot of newer cards. Lorenzo - -- Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQKa9G9IpekrhBfIRAsiZAJ9ObHGDKxpxYC0tKUbTX5u5icMwyACeMAEy 6VUox9ldNGg46Eb4qPVkJhY= =b7Xv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Lorenzo Taylor @ ` ace ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: ace @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Sorry, I was under the impression we were talking about multichannel cards not supporting multichannel in Linux. Well, it's quite obvious a single channel won't; however, multichannel cards should. I know that now in Windows single channel cards are made multichannel. At 11:34 PM 10/2/2005, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Getting multiple things to talk to the same sound card can be that >dificult. If you have a multichannel sound card, however, it is no >problem at all. These would be your soundblaster compatible cards for >the most part and a lot of newer cards. > >Lorenzo >- -- >Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFDQKa9G9IpekrhBfIRAsiZAJ9ObHGDKxpxYC0tKUbTX5u5icMwyACeMAEy >6VUox9ldNGg46Eb4qPVkJhY= >=b7Xv >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` ace @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. At the risk of repeating myself, that's what dmix is for. ace writes: > Sorry, I was under the impression we were talking about multichannel > cards not supporting multichannel in Linux. Well, it's quite obvious > a single channel won't; however, multichannel cards should. > I know that now in Windows single channel cards are made multichannel. > > At 11:34 PM 10/2/2005, you wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Getting multiple things to talk to the same sound card can be that > >dificult. If you have a multichannel sound card, however, it is no > >problem at all. These would be your soundblaster compatible cards for > >the most part and a lot of newer cards. > > > >Lorenzo > >- -- > >Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted > >before. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > > >iD8DBQFDQKa9G9IpekrhBfIRAsiZAJ9ObHGDKxpxYC0tKUbTX5u5icMwyACeMAEy > >6VUox9ldNGg46Eb4qPVkJhY= > >=b7Xv > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Sina Bahram ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Lorenzo Taylor @ ` Janina Sajka ` Sina Bahram 3 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I wouldn't want to hazzard an opinion on the degree of difficulty, but it's clearly been an issue for some time. Just as with modems (another "audio" device), processing has been exported from chips on the card to the host CPU. So whether it is difficult or straight forward simple, it does require management and some software. What I am saying is that the dmix in ALSA, beginning in ALSA 1.0.9 is intended to address this. Sina Bahram writes: > I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 > things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? > > I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a blurb from > a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, on the same sound > card. > > I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic as > that to work. > > Is it really that difficult? > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and at > the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for that > matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, either > using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried this was a > slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. > > Lorenzo > - -- > Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ > btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= > =y1eN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* RE: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Janina Sajka @ ` Sina Bahram ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Well, that is good to hear Janina ... I suppose I was just surprised at such a task being difficult. Not because of the nature of the task, but because it doesn't seem to be a problem elseware. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:32 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup I wouldn't want to hazzard an opinion on the degree of difficulty, but it's clearly been an issue for some time. Just as with modems (another "audio" device), processing has been exported from chips on the card to the host CPU. So whether it is difficult or straight forward simple, it does require management and some software. What I am saying is that the dmix in ALSA, beginning in ALSA 1.0.9 is intended to address this. Sina Bahram writes: > I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 > things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? > > I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a > blurb from a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, > on the same sound card. > > I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic > as that to work. > > Is it really that difficult? > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and > at the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for > that matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, > either using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried > this was a slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. > > Lorenzo > - -- > Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ > btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= > =y1eN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Sina Bahram @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'm old enough to remember a day when this didn't work on Windows either. Admittedly, that was some time ago. Remember that the audio environment in LInux is still not fully settled. The kernel moved from oss to alsa beginning with 2.6.x kernels. Meanwhile, alsa continues to evolve so much so that it can feel like quicksand with device name changes, .asoundrc syntax changes, and new technologies like dmix arriving as recently as the current alsa version, 1.0.9. On top of that there's esound, and there's arts, and there's mas, and there's jack for the high-end, professional audio crowd. If I were to hazzard an opinion, I would conjecture that sound support is regarded as a consumer feature, and Linux has not necessarily been consumer oriented. Of course for us it's much more than a nice to have consumer feature, but that's another story. Sina Bahram writes: > Well, that is good to hear Janina ... I suppose I was just surprised at such > a task being difficult. Not because of the nature of the task, but because > it doesn't seem to be a problem elseware. > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:32 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > I wouldn't want to hazzard an opinion on the degree of difficulty, but it's > clearly been an issue for some time. Just as with modems (another "audio" > device), processing has been exported from chips on the card to the host > CPU. So whether it is difficult or straight forward simple, it does require > management and some software. > > What I am saying is that the dmix in ALSA, beginning in ALSA 1.0.9 is > intended to address this. > > Sina Bahram writes: > > I can't understand this ... Are you telling me that having 2 or 3 or 4 > > things talking to a sound card in linux, is that hard? > > > > I want to be able to play mp3s, have software speech, listen to a > > blurb from a website, and hear operating noises all at the same time, > > on the same sound card. > > > > I should not have to do a single extra thing to get something as basic > > as that to work. > > > > Is it really that difficult? > > > > Take care, > > Sina > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > > On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor > > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:42 PM > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and > > at the same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for > > that matter. I have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, > > either using aoss or by any other means. The best I got when I tried > > this was a slowed-down, distorted, garbled mess. > > > > Lorenzo > > - -- > > Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted > before. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ > > btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= > > =y1eN > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to > http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Lorenzo Taylor ` Sina Bahram @ ` Janina Sajka ` Lorenzo Taylor 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hmmm. I have had flite on multiple machines -- though they were all Thinkpads, come to think of it. <grin> I have also not compiled Flite myself in some time, having just used the rpms. My current Thinkpad, an X31, will run software speech and play an audio file at the same time (via dmix). So, I don't know what's different with my setup over against yours. My audio hw is one of the Intel 8X0 variants. Lorenzo Taylor writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dmix does not, however, allow one to use flite for software speech and at the > same time run mplayer or any other software that uses sound for that matter. I > have not been able to get flite to work with aoss yet, either using aoss or by > any other means. The best I got when I tried this was a slowed-down, distorted, > garbled mess. > > Lorenzo > - -- > Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFDQIxKG9IpekrhBfIRAqJsAKDFHpsCYrgXiXdFWoabifhkQ4xoMQCgseE/ > btcL/JEiFBUotnBf1Ih9CH4= > =y1eN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Janina Sajka @ ` Lorenzo Taylor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I just figured out why I can't get dmix to work with flite on one of my computers. The problem is that blasted c-media 8738 sound chip. It is terrible. I just tried flite via aoss on my laptop with a sis chip, which I believe uses the intel driver and it works fine. The funny thing is that festival works on the c-media but not flite. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Lorenzo - -- Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQSZ/G9IpekrhBfIRAm7eAJ98z5yYpHWwwrK7KP3fZxLGRZcQowCgtTBs QbISHCQaDyTUZj5ZmnZ3x64= =VPYe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Krekan ` John covici @ ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Having a hardware speech synthesizer expands your options, it does not restrict them. Yes, you can do as you say, if you wish. On the other hand, relying on software speech only severly restricts your options. For example, you will find it more difficult to install and and solve problems with your installation. You may need sighted assistance in situations where having a hardwaresynth would allow you to rely on yourself alone. Krekan writes: > It means that when I have hardware for the first later I can use the > soundcard for talking software? > Krekan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:17 PM > Subject: Required hardware forSpeakup > > > > Speakup will work with certain software synthesizers -- however the > > advantage of using hardware is that you get all the messages from > > bootup which you cannot do with any other operating system. Best way > > is to have some hardware to start and then configure a software > > synthesizer. > > > > > > on Saturday 10/01/2005 Krekan(krekan@netkosice.sk) wrote > > > Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux and I > am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) to run it. I use > talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and I 'd like to start with > linux. > > > I used linux from shell before but I want to have my own linux on my > home system. Why do I have to have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On > Windows when i use wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. > > > Thanx for response > > > Krekan > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > How do > > you spend it? > > > > John Covici > > covici@ccs.covici.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > __________ Informacia od NOD32 1.1238 (20050930) __________ > > > > Tato sprava bola preverena antivirusovym systemom NOD32. > > http://www.eset.sk > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup Required hardware forSpeakup Krekan ` John covici @ ` Jan Buchal ` Krekan ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Jan Buchal @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>>> "K" == Krekan <krekan@netkosice.sk> writes: K> Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux K> and I am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) K> to run it. I use talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and K> I 'd like to start with linux. I used linux from shell before but K> I want to have my own linux on my home system. Why do I have to K> have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On Windows when i use K> wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. Thanx for response Hello, you can use the Festival speech synthesiser, that's a software synthesiser for several languages, Czech for example. For this you need speech-up and speech dispatcher which provide support for speakup. More information you can find on http://www.freebsoft.org. Best regards -- Jan Buchal Tel: (00420) 224921679 Mob: (00420) 608023021 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Jan Buchal @ ` Krekan ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Krekan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, from your name I am guessing that it would be more to easy to write you in Slovak. If I can, please respond to this message and we could discuss more. I am from kKosice Slovakia( as the address implies) Cheers Krekan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Buchal <buchal@brailcom.org> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:37 PM Subject: Re: Required hardware forSpeakup > >>>>> "K" == Krekan <krekan@netkosice.sk> writes: > > K> Hi everyone, I have read about possibility to have talking Linux > K> and I am interested of what equipment should I have (syntesizer) > K> to run it. I use talking software for Windows now (wintalker) and > K> I 'd like to start with linux. I used linux from shell before but > K> I want to have my own linux on my home system. Why do I have to > K> have syntesizer when I have soundcard? On Windows when i use > K> wintalker I don't have to use any syntesizer. Thanx for response > > Hello, > > you can use the Festival speech synthesiser, that's a software synthesiser > for several languages, Czech for example. For this you need speech-up > and speech dispatcher which provide support for speakup. More > information you can find on http://www.freebsoft.org. > > Best regards > > > -- > > Jan Buchal > Tel: (00420) 224921679 > Mob: (00420) 608023021 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > __________ Informacia od NOD32 1.1238 (20050930) __________ > > Tato sprava bola preverena antivirusovym systemom NOD32. > http://www.eset.sk > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Jan Buchal ` Krekan @ ` Janina Sajka ` Jan Buchal 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Jan Buchal writes: > > you can use the Festival speech synthesiser, that's a software synthesiser > for several languages, Czech for example. For this you need speech-up > and speech dispatcher which provide support for speakup. More > information you can find on http://www.freebsoft.org. > You're forgetting, Jan, that he doesn't have Linux and Speakup installed yet. Speech Dispatcher isn't going to help him with that part. I have felt it important to hammer this fact home again because this point should not be obfiscated, especially given that people are writing in what is obviously not their native language. 1.) You cannot, cannot, cannot, cannot install Linux using software speech, not Speech Dispatcher's software speech, nor anyone else's software speech. Period. End of story. 2.) Once you have Linux with Speakup installed, you can use hardware or software speech. You can change synths every hour if you want. 3.) There may, or may not be a problem using software speech and other audio applications (like mplayer). This depends on your sound card and other factors like the version of ALSA you're using. Advice is to use ALSA 1.0.9 or greater. Janina > Best regards > > > -- > > Jan Buchal > Tel: (00420) 224921679 > Mob: (00420) 608023021 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Janina Sajka @ ` Jan Buchal ` Janina Sajka ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Jan Buchal @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: JS> Jan Buchal writes: >> >> you can use the Festival speech synthesiser, that's a software >> synthesiser for several languages, Czech for example. For this >> you need speech-up and speech dispatcher which provide support >> for speakup. More information you can find on >> http://www.freebsoft.org. >> JS> You're forgetting, Jan, that he doesn't have Linux and Speakup JS> installed yet. Speech Dispatcher isn't going to help him with JS> that part. No, I do not forgeten. For Linux installation exist more ways. You can use some live speech Linux distribution for example. JS> I have felt it important to hammer this fact home again because JS> this point should not be obfiscated, especially given that JS> people are writing in what is obviously not their native JS> language. JS> 1.) You cannot, cannot, cannot, cannot install Linux using JS> software speech, not Speech Dispatcher's software speech, nor JS> anyone else's software speech. Period. End of story. No, you are wrong. JS> 2.) Once you have Linux with Speakup installed, you can use JS> hardware or software speech. You can change synths every hour if JS> you want. Yes, maybe is important that HW synthesiser cost about 1 thousand dollars. JS> 3.) There may, or may not be a problem using software speech and JS> other audio applications (like mplayer). This depends on your JS> sound card and other factors like the version of ALSA you're JS> using. Advice is to use ALSA 1.0.9 or greater. This proble is already solved. I any case a new sound card is much cheaper then a new HW synthesiser. -- Jan Buchal Tel: (00420) 224921679 Mob: (00420) 608023021 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Jan Buchal @ ` Janina Sajka ` Jan Buchal ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Jan Buchal writes: > >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: > JS> 1.) You cannot, cannot, cannot, cannot install Linux using > JS> software speech, not Speech Dispatcher's software speech, nor > JS> anyone else's software speech. Period. End of story. > I'm happy to learn how this is done, Jan. One computer only, please. Obviously we know you can do it with two computers. But, how do you install Linux using software speech using only one computer. Please explain. > No, you are wrong. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Janina Sajka @ ` Jan Buchal ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Jan Buchal @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: JS> Jan Buchal writes: >> >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: JS> 1.) You cannot, cannot, cannot, cannot install Linux using JS> software speech, not Speech Dispatcher's software speech, nor JS> anyone else's software speech. Period. End of story. >> JS> I'm happy to learn how this is done, Jan. One computer only, JS> please. Obviously we know you can do it with two computers. But, JS> how do you install Linux using software speech using only one JS> computer. Please explain. In Debian: - apt-get install debootstrap - debootstrap sarge ./sarge-chroot - cd ./sarge-chroot - chroot ./ - aptget install anything what you need, speech-dispatcher, festival, speakup etc. etc. More man debootstrap then you can make some new partition on you disk on on other wich you attached before. You can the bootstrap install direct on other partition or disk of course. Have you nice day -- Jan Buchal Tel: (00420) 224921679 Mob: (00420) 608023021 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Jan Buchal @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You're not responding to the correct question, Jan. The hard drive is empty. There is nothing on it, not apt, nothing. Show me how to install Debian, or anything else using software speech for feedback. It can't be done today. PS: Your instructions require the hard drive to be installed in a working Debian computer. Nice try, but that counts as using two computers. Sorry. Jan Buchal writes: > >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: > > JS> Jan Buchal writes: > >> >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: > JS> 1.) You cannot, cannot, cannot, cannot install Linux using > JS> software speech, not Speech Dispatcher's software speech, nor > JS> anyone else's software speech. Period. End of story. > >> > JS> I'm happy to learn how this is done, Jan. One computer only, > JS> please. Obviously we know you can do it with two computers. But, > JS> how do you install Linux using software speech using only one > JS> computer. Please explain. > > In Debian: > > > > - apt-get install debootstrap > > - debootstrap sarge ./sarge-chroot > - cd ./sarge-chroot > - chroot ./ > - aptget install anything what you need, speech-dispatcher, festival, > speakup etc. etc. More man debootstrap > > > then you can make some new partition on you disk on on other wich you > attached before. You can the bootstrap install direct on other partition > or disk of course. > > > > > Have you nice day > > -- > > Jan Buchal > Tel: (00420) 224921679 > Mob: (00420) 608023021 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada--Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: Required hardware forSpeakup ` Jan Buchal ` Janina Sajka @ ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Jan Buchal writes: > >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: > > JS> 2.) Once you have Linux with Speakup installed, you can use > JS> hardware or software speech. You can change synths every hour if > JS> you want. > Yes, maybe is important that HW synthesiser cost about 1 thousand > dollars. You can spend that much if you want. But, you can also get hardware speech synths for much much less. The one I am using right now cost me $150 USSd , and it was purchased new. Other synths can be had for around $300 USD new. Or you can look on places like Ebay. A few weeks ago someone on this list was giving away hardware speech synthesizers. This is not as burdensome as you claim. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
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