Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine with Windows XP

Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine with Windows XP

[Keith Hinton]

Hi all on the list,
Here is an interesting situation I am in.
I have a Windows XP Media Center Edition box that I mainly use for Skype 
reasons and other voice over IP things that Linux sadly does not seem to 
help me with.
Now, I still want to run Linux, but can not do so by whiping out Windows, 
because the last time I did that my father unknown to me tryed to look up 
something online. As you may expect, he only knows Microsoft Windblows, so 
when he saw a Linux login terminal, he shut the system down the hard way 
because he could not figure out how to get back into it.
So, I reinstalled a clone of my working Gateway computer, and because of the 
hardware, Windows XP is actually stable, most of the time believe it or 
not.Now, would it be possible to use VMWare worksation and run Linux and 
isntall it, and use software speech with Speakup? Any considerations that I 
should take into account first? Will this work? Let me know. Regards,--Keith 

Re: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine with Windows XP

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:01:24PM -0700, Shane wrote:
> A number of options here.  There is a Linux skype client
> and chan_skype which can gate it to Asterisk and therefore
> SIP.  I haven't tried this method myself and use a Windows
> skype/sip gateway but no reason why it wouldn't work.
> 

Yeah, but the last time I checked, the gnu/linux skype client wasn't
accessible. Has that changed?

Greg

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Re: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine withWindows XP

[Brent Harding]

Where would one find a Sip gateway for Skype? Wouldn't you need Windows 
somewhere to run such a thing? It would also mean another computer as well, 
some guy on a show wanted it to integrate with Asterisk so people could call 
from online or the phone into the same system.

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From: "Shane" <shane-keyword-speakup.aca783@cm.nu>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine 
withWindows XP


> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:09:28PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>> Yeah, but the last time I checked, the gnu/linux skype client wasn't
>> accessible. Has that changed?
>
> I really need to play with this at some point.  With a sip
> gateway, I wouldn't think it would need to be accessible
> assuch.  As long as one could get it installed I think it
> uses a config file for credentials.
>
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Re: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine with Windows XP

[Michael Whapples]

To add another option, it is possible to set up dual boot on the
computer and make windows the default. If you think the lilo, grub or
other boot loader screen would be off-putting to the rest of your
family, you can install lilo (I don't know about grub) to a floppy disk,
and leave the windows boot loader on the HD, so when you want linux
stick the lilo disk in. I guess you could actually install lilo to any
disk that you could boot from, eg. USB storage devices, etc. NOTE: with
this it is only the boot loader on the removable media, the OS is still
on the HD and so will behave as you would want and expect. I don't know
if other distros offer installing the boot loader to other places like
floppy, but I know slackware allows lilo on a floppy from the installer
(any distro should be able to install lilo to a floppy but you may need
to do it once it is installed).

From
Michael Whapples
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 12:01 -0700, Shane wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:41:00AM -0700, Keith Hinton wrote:
> > I have a Windows XP Media Center Edition box that I mainly use for Skype 
> > reasons and other voice over IP things that Linux sadly does not seem to 
> > help me with.
> 
> A number of options here.  There is a Linux skype client
> and chan_skype which can gate it to Asterisk and therefore
> SIP.  I haven't tried this method myself and use a Windows
> skype/sip gateway but no reason why it wouldn't work.
> 
> > not.Now, would it be possible to use VMWare worksation and run Linux and 
> > isntall it, and use software speech with Speakup? Any considerations that I 
> > should take into account first? Will this work? Let me know. Regards,--Keith 
> 
> Should work.  I use a similar setup on a laptop and is
> quite stable.
> 
> Shane

Re: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machinewith Windows XP

[Gregory Nowak]

Another option is to use ntldr, the windows nt loader. There is a minihowto 
describing how to do this under winnt4, but I can tell you from experience 
that if you follow that, the procedure under winxp at least is exactly the 
same as described.

Greg


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From: "Michael Whapples" <mikster4@msn.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual 
machinewith Windows XP


> To add another option, it is possible to set up dual boot on the
> computer and make windows the default. If you think the lilo, grub or
> other boot loader screen would be off-putting to the rest of your
> family, you can install lilo (I don't know about grub) to a floppy disk,
> and leave the windows boot loader on the HD, so when you want linux
> stick the lilo disk in. I guess you could actually install lilo to any
> disk that you could boot from, eg. USB storage devices, etc. NOTE: with
> this it is only the boot loader on the removable media, the OS is still
> on the HD and so will behave as you would want and expect. I don't know
> if other distros offer installing the boot loader to other places like
> floppy, but I know slackware allows lilo on a floppy from the installer
> (any distro should be able to install lilo to a floppy but you may need
> to do it once it is installed).
>
> From
> Michael Whapples

RE: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine withWindows XP

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

I can't help precisely with your question but wondered if you had considered all your options?

Had you considered making a dual boot machine and having the boot loader load windows by default?  By having a timeout of 10 seconds it increases the boot up time by ten seconds but you can hit enter to start the boot.  I like good old lilo, it's easy to have it beep at the prompt and you can use single key, i.e. you just a single letter to choose the boot option.

But having said which, why not teach your father to use Linux?  If he only wants to browse the web you could have it boot directly into a web browser.  Put Firefox on Windows and when's used to it move him over to Linux.  As for your VOIP, I'm sure that there are Linux solutions for you.  As a side issue, Chess has been discussing the best option in his recent Linux Reality pod casts.



Gena

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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:41 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Regarding running Linux with Speakup under a virtual machine withWindows XP


Hi all on the list,
Here is an interesting situation I am in.
I have a Windows XP Media Center Edition box that I mainly use for Skype 
reasons and other voice over IP things that Linux sadly does not seem to 
help me with.
Now, I still want to run Linux, but can not do so by whiping out Windows, 
because the last time I did that my father unknown to me tryed to look up 
something online. As you may expect, he only knows Microsoft Windblows, so 
when he saw a Linux login terminal, he shut the system down the hard way 
because he could not figure out how to get back into it.
So, I reinstalled a clone of my working Gateway computer, and because of the 
hardware, Windows XP is actually stable, most of the time believe it or 
not.Now, would it be possible to use VMWare worksation and run Linux and 
isntall it, and use software speech with Speakup? Any considerations that I 
should take into account first? Will this work? Let me know. Regards,--Keith 


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Wireless Router

[Dawes, Stephen]

This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
wireless router to purchase.


Steve Dawes
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Re: Wireless Router

[Travis Siegel]

On Jun 8, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Dawes, Stephen wrote:

> This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> wireless router to purchase.

Well, a lot folks don't agree with me, but I find the linksys wrt54G  
to be exactly what I need.
Others have had problems with them, but I have not.
My friend much prefers the belkin routers, so there's something else  
for what it's worth. 

Re: Wireless Router

[Alex Snow]

I like the wrt54gl (I think that's what it's called, the current one 
that runs linux not the current one that runs vxworks)

personally quite happy with my Cisco 2514 though...
On Fri, Jun 08, 
2007 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Dawes, Stephen wrote:
> This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> wireless router to purchase.
> 
> 
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
>  
>  
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Re: Wireless Router

[John McCann]

After my venerable linksys befw11s4 started losing it this past weekend, I 
received just yesterday my new linksys WRT54GL, which came highly 
recommended, and so far, I am quite impressed. The latest firmware is 
4.30.9, but I understand that there's lots of GPL tweaks and such that are 
available for this router.

John McCann

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To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: Wireless Router


> This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> wireless router to purchase.
>
>
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
>
>
>
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Re: Wireless Router

[Jürgen Dengo]

You should get a linksys or what ever it was. It can be easily used as a lan 
provider and also as a wireless network provider. My laptop and pc are using 
the same connection, but only the pc is using the cable.
With regards
Jürgen. 

Re: Wireless Router

[Jürgen Dengo]

Yes. Linksys is good as far as I know. You can turn it to function either as 
a switch or as a router. 

Re: Wireless Router

[Garrett Klein]

Stephen,

I would recommend the wrt54gl, the reason being that you can reflash it with
openwrt (http://www.openwrt.org) and get ssh access/iptables firewall
access. I've got two of these with OpenWrt and a decent firewall
configuration, and have had no problems.

Garrett
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From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: Wireless Router


> This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> wireless router to purchase.
>
>
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
>
>
>
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Openwrt

[Scott Berry]

Garrett,

I have a question about openwrt.  I have a linux box that needs to go out on
the Internet and I am getting two wrt54G v2 routers.  Is there a way in
Openwrt to allow only a certain ip address on to the Internet without
actually letting all the other systems hang out on the Net.  I forget the
actual term it is something like Nat forwarding or redirection.

Scott

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On Behalf Of Garrett Klein
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 2:39 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Wireless Router

Stephen,

I would recommend the wrt54gl, the reason being that you can reflash it with
openwrt (http://www.openwrt.org) and get ssh access/iptables firewall
access. I've got two of these with OpenWrt and a decent firewall
configuration, and have had no problems.

Garrett
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From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: Wireless Router


> This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> wireless router to purchase.
>
>
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
>
>
>
>
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Re: Wireless Router

[Doug Sutherland]

Ditto Linksys is fine. 
CISCO wouldn't have bought them if they were not.

  -- Doug

Re: Wireless Router

[Alex Snow]

Openwrt seems to be the firmware for the wrt54 with the most 
features/support...ddwrt is another firmware that has the advantage of 
more complete support for the wrt54gv5, which openwrt is only starting 
to support.
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:24:37PM -0400, John McCann wrote:
> After my venerable linksys befw11s4 started losing it this past weekend, I 
> received just yesterday my new linksys WRT54GL, which came highly 
> recommended, and so far, I am quite impressed. The latest firmware is 
> 4.30.9, but I understand that there's lots of GPL tweaks and such that are 
> available for this router.
> 
> John McCann
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:05 AM
> Subject: Wireless Router
> 
> 
> > This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> > wireless router to purchase.
> >
> >
> > Steve Dawes
> > Phone: (403) 268-5527
> > Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Wireless Router

[Alex Snow]

Just a note on ddwrt/openwrt on the wrt54s, if you're going to increase 
the power on the wireless NIC or overclock the processor as supported by 
certain models, you have to watch the temps...anything over the stock 
settings seems to cause them to heat up quite a bit, and a heatsync or 
fan should be added if you want to leave them in this state for any 
length of time.

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RE: Wireless Router

[Scott Berry]

I don't think I will overclocki them I just want them to do more then they
can do now.

Scott

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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:31 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Wireless Router

Just a note on ddwrt/openwrt on the wrt54s, if you're going to increase 
the power on the wireless NIC or overclock the processor as supported by 
certain models, you have to watch the temps...anything over the stock 
settings seems to cause them to heat up quite a bit, and a heatsync or 
fan should be added if you want to leave them in this state for any 
length of time.

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RE: Wireless Router

[Scott Berry]

Hmmm.  Curious I didn't see that they supported the v5 version.  So ddtw
does support it?  How does it work?  Do you have to get cvs stuff?  Where
can I get the downloads I have a v5 here.

Scott



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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:27 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Wireless Router

Openwrt seems to be the firmware for the wrt54 with the most 
features/support...ddwrt is another firmware that has the advantage of 
more complete support for the wrt54gv5, which openwrt is only starting 
to support.
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:24:37PM -0400, John McCann wrote:
> After my venerable linksys befw11s4 started losing it this past weekend, I

> received just yesterday my new linksys WRT54GL, which came highly 
> recommended, and so far, I am quite impressed. The latest firmware is 
> 4.30.9, but I understand that there's lots of GPL tweaks and such that are

> available for this router.
> 
> John McCann
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:05 AM
> Subject: Wireless Router
> 
> 
> > This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> > wireless router to purchase.
> >
> >
> > Steve Dawes
> > Phone: (403) 268-5527
> > Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Wireless Router

[Doug Sutherland]

Hehe people overclock linksys routers? 
For what purpose? Just because you can?
 
  -- Doug

Re: Wireless Router

[Glenn Ervin]

I found the D-Link 713 a good router, and it has a serial port, for a 
dial-up modem, but I only used mine for Ethernet/broadband.
It has a very accessible web interface, much more so than the D-Link 714P 
that I now have.
It is wireless, with 4 ports for cable, one being the line-in, and 3 out, or 
it was 4 out, but it seems like 3.
Glenn

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From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:05 AM
Subject: Wireless Router


This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
wireless router to purchase.


Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
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Re: Wireless Router

[Alex Snow]

Information on the v5 is somewhere on ddwrt's website...forget 
where...there's also a little info on openwrt's site, but openwrt 
support for those is still in development and I think only the most 
basic openwrt image will fit in the 2mb flash they give you.
On Fri, Jun 
08, 2007 at 09:38:35PM -0500, Scott Berry wrote:
> Hmmm.  Curious I didn't see that they supported the v5 version.  So ddtw
> does support it?  How does it work?  Do you have to get cvs stuff?  Where
> can I get the downloads I have a v5 here.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
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> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:27 PM
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> Subject: Re: Wireless Router
> 
> Openwrt seems to be the firmware for the wrt54 with the most 
> features/support...ddwrt is another firmware that has the advantage of 
> more complete support for the wrt54gv5, which openwrt is only starting 
> to support.
> On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:24:37PM -0400, John McCann wrote:
> > After my venerable linksys befw11s4 started losing it this past weekend, I
> 
> > received just yesterday my new linksys WRT54GL, which came highly 
> > recommended, and so far, I am quite impressed. The latest firmware is 
> > 4.30.9, but I understand that there's lots of GPL tweaks and such that are
> 
> > available for this router.
> > 
> > John McCann
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> > > wireless router to purchase.
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Re: Wireless Router

[Alex Snow]

Most likely.  I'm not sure of any other reason they would want to 
overclock them...increasing the transmition power of the wireless 
hardware is another story, would be nice to have the full 251mw that's 
supported by the device as opposed to the 80-100mw it's limitted to 
with the stock firmware.
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:51:48PM -0500, Doug 
Sutherland wrote:
> Hehe people overclock linksys routers? 
> For what purpose? Just because you can?
>  
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RE: Wireless Router

[ace]

How come people don't just use their Linux box as the router and a wireless
switch to provide the wireless?  I don't have a lot of experience in this
area so let me know if I am completely off.


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-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:48 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Wireless Router

I like the wrt54gl (I think that's what it's called, the current one 
that runs linux not the current one that runs vxworks)

personally quite happy with my Cisco 2514 though...
On Fri, Jun 08, 
2007 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Dawes, Stephen wrote:
> This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> wireless router to purchase.
> 
> 
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
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>  
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Re: Wireless Router

[Glenn Ervin]

Cost might have something to do with it.
One can get a decent router for 30 bucks, and it is a lot easier to 
maintain.
Just my take on it.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Wireless Router


How come people don't just use their Linux box as the router and a wireless
switch to provide the wireless?  I don't have a lot of experience in this
area so let me know if I am completely off.


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ace
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-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:48 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Wireless Router

I like the wrt54gl (I think that's what it's called, the current one
that runs linux not the current one that runs vxworks)

personally quite happy with my Cisco 2514 though...
On Fri, Jun 08,
2007 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Dawes, Stephen wrote:
> This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> wireless router to purchase.
>
>
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
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>
>
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Re: Wireless Router

[Doug Sutherland]

I don't know about anyone else, but I want my linux
behind a router/firewall that does nat, then also run
iptables on linux. There are many people looking for
linux boxen to play with on the net. They look for
known vulnerabilities and old versions of networking
software that don't have the latest security patches.
A canned router does not have ability to do things
like login, install rootkits, open rogue connections,
etc. Even if you don't open ports and follow all of
the best security practices, eventually you will
forget something, or not have the latest patch, or
maybe you already have a rootkit installed and do
not know. Reason enough for me, and besides a
router is just as cheap as a wireless adapter to
make a PC into router.


ace wrote:
How come people don't just use their Linux box as
the router and a wireless switch

Re: Wireless Router

[Alex Snow]

personally I don't want to use a full-fledged computer as a 
router...in a router I want something that's just going to run without 
any issues, and anyway a computer is overkill.  I like something thats 
a small imbedded system with just enough flash/ram to be a router.
On 
Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 01:48:26PM -0400, ace wrote:
> How come people don't just use their Linux box as the router and a wireless
> switch to provide the wireless?  I don't have a lot of experience in this
> area so let me know if I am completely off.
> 
> 
> --
> ace
> Network Administrator of
> irc.talkingirc.net
> http://www.talkingirc.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:48 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Wireless Router
> 
> I like the wrt54gl (I think that's what it's called, the current one 
> that runs linux not the current one that runs vxworks)
> 
> personally quite happy with my Cisco 2514 though...
> On Fri, Jun 08, 
> 2007 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Dawes, Stephen wrote:
> > This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> > wireless router to purchase.
> > 
> > 
> > Steve Dawes
> > Phone: (403) 268-5527
> > Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
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RE: Wireless Router

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

Of course, there's the noise issue if you don't have a cupboard to hide the machine and considerably cheaper to run.

Gena

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-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:51 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Wireless Router


personally I don't want to use a full-fledged computer as a 
router...in a router I want something that's just going to run without 
any issues, and anyway a computer is overkill.  I like something thats 
a small imbedded system with just enough flash/ram to be a router.
On 
Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 01:48:26PM -0400, ace wrote:
> How come people don't just use their Linux box as the router and a wireless
> switch to provide the wireless?  I don't have a lot of experience in this
> area so let me know if I am completely off.
> 
> 
> --
> ace
> Network Administrator of
> irc.talkingirc.net
> http://www.talkingirc.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:48 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Wireless Router
> 
> I like the wrt54gl (I think that's what it's called, the current one 
> that runs linux not the current one that runs vxworks)
> 
> personally quite happy with my Cisco 2514 though...
> On Fri, Jun 08, 
> 2007 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Dawes, Stephen wrote:
> > This is slightly off topic, but I am looking for opinions on which
> > wireless router to purchase.
> > 
> > 
> > Steve Dawes
> > Phone: (403) 268-5527
> > Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
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>
> No.  That's it.  The cool name, that is.  We worked very hard on
> creating a name that would appeal to the majority of people, and it
> certainly paid off: thousands of people are using linux just to be able
> to say "OS/2? Hah.  I've got Linux.  What a cool name".  386BSD made the
> mistake of putting a lot of numbers and weird abbreviations into the
> name, and is scaring away a lot of people just because it sounds too
> technical.
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