Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

Hi Folks.  This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different.  Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk.  The MD5 is 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a working disk.
Thanks,
Nick

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[Janina Sajka]

Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release.

I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount
installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're
getting the error?

If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do
not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on
that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into.

I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS,
so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified.

nick G writes:
> Hi Folks.  This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different.  Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk.  The MD5 is 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a working disk.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

I'm not even using NFS, i'm doing this over the regular CD's in the drive of 
the machine I'm using.  This happened the first time I installed FC2...so 
whatever you did for the second motification of FC1, do for FC3.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk


Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release.

I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount
installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're
getting the error?

If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do
not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on
that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into.

I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS,
so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified.

nick G writes:
> Hi Folks.  This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this 
> time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different. 
> Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here 
> is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk.  The MD5 is 
> 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been 
> updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a 
> working disk.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka, Chair
Accessibility Workgroup
Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040


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Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[Janina Sajka]

You didn't read what I said very carefully. 

nick G writes:
> I'm not even using NFS, i'm doing this over the regular CD's in the drive of 
> the machine I'm using.  This happened the first time I installed FC2...so 
> whatever you did for the second motification of FC1, do for FC3.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
> 
> 
> Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release.
> 
> I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount
> installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're
> getting the error?
> 
> If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do
> not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on
> that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into.
> 
> I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS,
> so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified.
> 
> nick G writes:
> > Hi Folks.  This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this 
> > time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different. 
> > Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here 
> > is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk.  The MD5 is 
> > 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been 
> > updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a 
> > working disk.
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
> 
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
>
>
> Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release.
>
> I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount
> installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're
> getting the error?
    Oh, I forgot to tell you that...Yes, it comes when it loads 
/sbin/loader.  THe very first release of FC2 did the exact smae thing.
>
> If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do
> not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on
> that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into.
    I unfortunately don't have that liberty the way it was partitioned 
previously.>
> I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS,
> so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified.
>
> nick G writes:
> > Hi Folks.  This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this
> > time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is 
> > different.
> > Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, 
> > here
> > is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk.  The MD5 is
> > 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not 
> > been
> > updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a
> > working disk.
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
>
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Janina Sajka, Chair
Accessibility Workgroup
Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040


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Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[Janina Sajka]

nick G writes:
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
> >
> >
> > Can you say where in the process you're
> > getting the error?
>     Oh, I forgot to tell you that...Yes, it comes when it loads 
> /sbin/loader. 

So, you do not get the language and keyboard selection screens?


> THe very first release of FC2 did the exact smae thing.
But future releases didn't? Is this what you're saying?

> >
> > If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do
> > not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on
> > that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into.
>     I unfortunately don't have that liberty the way it was partitioned 
> previously.>
Do you mean that you are forced to devote the entire hard disk to Linux?
That you don't have the liberty not to use some of it aside from the
installation? That makes no sense to me. Please explain.

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, otherwise I could probably 
do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do not 
get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I 
do.  Everything just dies.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk


nick G writes:
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
> >
> >
> > Can you say where in the process you're
> > getting the error?
>     Oh, I forgot to tell you that...Yes, it comes when it loads
> /sbin/loader.

So, you do not get the language and keyboard selection screens?


> THe very first release of FC2 did the exact smae thing.
But future releases didn't? Is this what you're saying?

> >
> > If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do
> > not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on
> > that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into.
>     I unfortunately don't have that liberty the way it was partitioned
> previously.>
Do you mean that you are forced to devote the entire hard disk to Linux?
That you don't have the liberty not to use some of it aside from the
installation? That makes no sense to me. Please explain.

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Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[Janina Sajka]

nick G writes:
> I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything,

Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more
to the point parted, you still could--but read on.

>otherwise I could probably 
> do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do not 
> get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I 
> do.  Everything just dies.

But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this
more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you
correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up
questions that might be helpful in debugging.

If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from
hard drive option may not be available either.

So, let's take this one step at a time.

PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local
as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be
excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive
based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user
data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but
this is aside from your more immediate problem.


				Janina

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier.  Yes, I do have a 
version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could.  To me however, it 
isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk


nick G writes:
> I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything,

Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more
to the point parted, you still could--but read on.

>otherwise I could probably
> do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do not
> get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I
> do.  Everything just dies.

But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this
more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you
correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up
questions that might be helpful in debugging.

If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from
hard drive option may not be available either.

So, let's take this one step at a time.

PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local
as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be
excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive
based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user
data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but
this is aside from your more immediate problem.


Janina


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Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[Janina Sajka]

OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct? 

Let's review the basics:

1.)	 You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image
and the media you created from those images?

If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what
error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting
and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go
wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and



nick G writes:
> I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier.  Yes, I do have a 
> version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could.  To me however, it 
> isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
> 
> 
> nick G writes:
> > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything,
> 
> Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more
> to the point parted, you still could--but read on.
> 
> >otherwise I could probably
> > do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do not
> > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I
> > do.  Everything just dies.
> 
> But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this
> more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you
> correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up
> questions that might be helpful in debugging.
> 
> If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from
> hard drive option may not be available either.
> 
> So, let's take this one step at a time.
> 
> PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local
> as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be
> excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive
> based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user
> data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but
> this is aside from your more immediate problem.
> 
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

I Checked the original iso image.  I don't know how to check the MD5 sum on 
the Burned CD  without mounting it under linux...Something that FC2 isn't 
letting me do.   Under windows, I cant check a folder and it's subfolders 
with WinMD5Sum.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk


OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct?

Let's review the basics:

1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image
and the media you created from those images?

If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what
error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting
and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go
wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and



nick G writes:
> I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier.  Yes, I do have 
> a
> version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could.  To me however, 
> it
> isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
>
>
> nick G writes:
> > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything,
>
> Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more
> to the point parted, you still could--but read on.
>
> >otherwise I could probably
> > do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do 
> > not
> > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before 
> > I
> > do.  Everything just dies.
>
> But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this
> more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you
> correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up
> questions that might be helpful in debugging.
>
> If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from
> hard drive option may not be available either.
>
> So, let's take this one step at a time.
>
> PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local
> as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be
> excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive
> based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user
> data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but
> this is aside from your more immediate problem.
>
>
> Janina
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka, Chair
Accessibility Workgroup
Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040


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Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

Let's take a raincheck on the MD5 because checking the actual CD is not 
possible under windows, and under linux it's not letting me mount the CD 
drive.  The last thing I hear before everything gets caught up in a Panic 
and speakup dies is running /sbin/loader.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk


OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct?

Let's review the basics:

1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image
and the media you created from those images?

If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what
error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting
and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go
wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and



nick G writes:
> I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier.  Yes, I do have 
> a
> version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could.  To me however, 
> it
> isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
>
>
> nick G writes:
> > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything,
>
> Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more
> to the point parted, you still could--but read on.
>
> >otherwise I could probably
> > do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do 
> > not
> > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before 
> > I
> > do.  Everything just dies.
>
> But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this
> more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you
> correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up
> questions that might be helpful in debugging.
>
> If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from
> hard drive option may not be available either.
>
> So, let's take this one step at a time.
>
> PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local
> as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be
> excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive
> based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user
> data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but
> this is aside from your more immediate problem.
>
>
> Janina
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka, Chair
Accessibility Workgroup
Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040


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Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[Janina Sajka]

nick G writes:
> I Checked the original iso image.  I don't know how to check the MD5 sum on 
> the Burned CD  without mounting it under linux...Something that FC2 isn't 
> letting me do. 

You don't need to mount it. In fact, that would interfere.

Open the file MD5SUM in a text editor that does not wrap long lines. The
filename for each individual checksum is at the end of each line. Find
the filename corresponding to the CD ROM you want to check and edit the
filename out, replacing it with the correct device for your CD ROM
device. Delete the rest of the file, and save the result to a new
filename.

Example:

The first line of MD5SUM is:

3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412  FC3-i386-disc1.iso

So, you can start by deleting everything below this line. Then, replace
FC3-i386-disc1.iso with the device disignation for your CD ROM. One
possible result might be:

3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412  /dev/cdrom

Of course, you must supply a correct device designation.i

Next, save to a new file name, perhaps MD5cdr1

Now, you can run md5sum like this:

md5sum -c MD5cdr1


You really only need to do the first CD ROM for now. Once you are
successfully booting the installation, we can go back and do the rest.


>  Under windows, I cant check a folder and it's subfolders 
> with WinMD5Sum.

Whatever. This is a nonsequitor.

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[Janina Sajka]

Please see my previous message for how to md5sum the media.

What is "caught up in a panic" mean? I don't recognize that as
technology.

nick G writes:
> Let's take a raincheck on the MD5 because checking the actual CD is not 
> possible under windows, and under linux it's not letting me mount the CD 
> drive.  The last thing I hear before everything gets caught up in a Panic 
> and speakup dies is running /sbin/loader.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
> 
> 
> OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct?
> 
> Let's review the basics:
> 
> 1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image
> and the media you created from those images?
> 
> If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what
> error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting
> and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go
> wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and
> 
> 
> 
> nick G writes:
> > I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier.  Yes, I do have 
> > a
> > version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could.  To me however, 
> > it
> > isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary.
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
> >
> >
> > nick G writes:
> > > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything,
> >
> > Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more
> > to the point parted, you still could--but read on.
> >
> > >otherwise I could probably
> > > do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do 
> > > not
> > > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before 
> > > I
> > > do.  Everything just dies.
> >
> > But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this
> > more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you
> > correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up
> > questions that might be helpful in debugging.
> >
> > If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from
> > hard drive option may not be available either.
> >
> > So, let's take this one step at a time.
> >
> > PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local
> > as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be
> > excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive
> > based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user
> > data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but
> > this is aside from your more immediate problem.
> >
> >
> > Janina
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
> 
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk

[nick G]

Woe!  Mounting my CDRom...Just caused my system to crash.  I know this 
doesn't follow protocal but I"m going to test this image on other hardware 
to see what it does  Crashing normally isn't cool, but it gave me an idea.
Thanks,
Nick
P.S.
"Caught up in a Panic" is just more words for a Kernel Panic.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk


Please see my previous message for how to md5sum the media.

What is "caught up in a panic" mean? I don't recognize that as
technology.

nick G writes:
> Let's take a raincheck on the MD5 because checking the actual CD is not
> possible under windows, and under linux it's not letting me mount the CD
> drive.  The last thing I hear before everything gets caught up in a Panic
> and speakup dies is running /sbin/loader.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
>
>
> OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct?
>
> Let's review the basics:
>
> 1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image
> and the media you created from those images?
>
> If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what
> error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting
> and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go
> wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and
>
>
>
> nick G writes:
> > I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier.  Yes, I do 
> > have
> > a
> > version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could.  To me 
> > however,
> > it
> > isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary.
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk
> >
> >
> > nick G writes:
> > > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything,
> >
> > Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more
> > to the point parted, you still could--but read on.
> >
> > >otherwise I could probably
> > > do something.  That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way.  I do
> > > not
> > > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics 
> > > before
> > > I
> > > do.  Everything just dies.
> >
> > But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this
> > more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you
> > correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up
> > questions that might be helpful in debugging.
> >
> > If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from
> > hard drive option may not be available either.
> >
> > So, let's take this one step at a time.
> >
> > PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local
> > as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be
> > excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive
> > based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user
> > data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but
> > this is aside from your more immediate problem.
> >
> >
> > Janina
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
>
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka, Chair
Accessibility Workgroup
Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040


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