* Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk @ nick G ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Folks. This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different. Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk. The MD5 is 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a working disk. Thanks, Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk nick G @ ` Janina Sajka ` nick G 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release. I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're getting the error? If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into. I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS, so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified. nick G writes: > Hi Folks. This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different. Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk. The MD5 is 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a working disk. > Thanks, > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` Janina Sajka @ ` nick G ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'm not even using NFS, i'm doing this over the regular CD's in the drive of the machine I'm using. This happened the first time I installed FC2...so whatever you did for the second motification of FC1, do for FC3. Thanks, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release. I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're getting the error? If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into. I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS, so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified. nick G writes: > Hi Folks. This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this > time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different. > Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here > is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk. The MD5 is > 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been > updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a > working disk. > Thanks, > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` nick G @ ` Janina Sajka ` nick G 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You didn't read what I said very carefully. nick G writes: > I'm not even using NFS, i'm doing this over the regular CD's in the drive of > the machine I'm using. This happened the first time I installed FC2...so > whatever you did for the second motification of FC1, do for FC3. > Thanks, > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release. > > I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount > installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're > getting the error? > > If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do > not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on > that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into. > > I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS, > so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified. > > nick G writes: > > Hi Folks. This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this > > time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is different. > > Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, here > > is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk. The MD5 is > > 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not been > > updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a > > working disk. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` Janina Sajka @ ` nick G ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > Argh, I guess this is why it's still a test release. > > I have also seen trace backs. Mine came on attempts to mount > installation media via NFS. Can you say where in the process you're > getting the error? Oh, I forgot to tell you that...Yes, it comes when it loads /sbin/loader. THe very first release of FC2 did the exact smae thing. > > If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do > not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on > that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into. I unfortunately don't have that liberty the way it was partitioned previously.> > I should add, though, that others have successfully installed over NFS, > so whatever is wrong, it's not yet identified. > > nick G writes: > > Hi Folks. This issue happened the first time I tried to do this, this > > time it's happening with different hardware...The Hard disk is > > different. > > Now this time, to make things perfectly clear that my Iso burned ok, > > here > > is the MD5 checksum for disk one, the problematic disk. The MD5 is > > 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 and since the checksums file has not > > been > > updated, compare with your checksum on the disk that is presumed to be a > > working disk. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` nick G @ ` Janina Sajka ` nick G 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. nick G writes: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM > > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > > > > Can you say where in the process you're > > getting the error? > Oh, I forgot to tell you that...Yes, it comes when it loads > /sbin/loader. So, you do not get the language and keyboard selection screens? > THe very first release of FC2 did the exact smae thing. But future releases didn't? Is this what you're saying? > > > > If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do > > not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on > > that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into. > I unfortunately don't have that liberty the way it was partitioned > previously.> Do you mean that you are forced to devote the entire hard disk to Linux? That you don't have the liberty not to use some of it aside from the installation? That makes no sense to me. Please explain. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` Janina Sajka @ ` nick G ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, otherwise I could probably do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do not get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I do. Everything just dies. Thanks, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk nick G writes: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:12 PM > > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > > > > Can you say where in the process you're > > getting the error? > Oh, I forgot to tell you that...Yes, it comes when it loads > /sbin/loader. So, you do not get the language and keyboard selection screens? > THe very first release of FC2 did the exact smae thing. But future releases didn't? Is this what you're saying? > > > > If you have, or can create, a partition on this hard drive that you do > > not intend to format for Linux, you could put the four iso images on > > that partition. That's how I got around the NFS issue I ran into. > I unfortunately don't have that liberty the way it was partitioned > previously.> Do you mean that you are forced to devote the entire hard disk to Linux? That you don't have the liberty not to use some of it aside from the installation? That makes no sense to me. Please explain. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` nick G @ ` Janina Sajka ` nick G 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. nick G writes: > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more to the point parted, you still could--but read on. >otherwise I could probably > do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do not > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I > do. Everything just dies. But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up questions that might be helpful in debugging. If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from hard drive option may not be available either. So, let's take this one step at a time. PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but this is aside from your more immediate problem. Janina ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` Janina Sajka @ ` nick G ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier. Yes, I do have a version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could. To me however, it isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary. Thanks, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk nick G writes: > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more to the point parted, you still could--but read on. >otherwise I could probably > do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do not > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I > do. Everything just dies. But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up questions that might be helpful in debugging. If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from hard drive option may not be available either. So, let's take this one step at a time. PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but this is aside from your more immediate problem. Janina _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` nick G @ ` Janina Sajka ` nick G ` nick G 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct? Let's review the basics: 1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image and the media you created from those images? If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and nick G writes: > I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier. Yes, I do have a > version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could. To me however, it > isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary. > Thanks, > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > nick G writes: > > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, > > Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more > to the point parted, you still could--but read on. > > >otherwise I could probably > > do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do not > > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before I > > do. Everything just dies. > > But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this > more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you > correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up > questions that might be helpful in debugging. > > If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from > hard drive option may not be available either. > > So, let's take this one step at a time. > > PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local > as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be > excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive > based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user > data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but > this is aside from your more immediate problem. > > > Janina > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` Janina Sajka @ ` nick G ` Janina Sajka ` nick G 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I Checked the original iso image. I don't know how to check the MD5 sum on the Burned CD without mounting it under linux...Something that FC2 isn't letting me do. Under windows, I cant check a folder and it's subfolders with WinMD5Sum. Thanks, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct? Let's review the basics: 1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image and the media you created from those images? If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and nick G writes: > I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier. Yes, I do have > a > version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could. To me however, > it > isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary. > Thanks, > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > nick G writes: > > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, > > Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more > to the point parted, you still could--but read on. > > >otherwise I could probably > > do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do > > not > > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before > > I > > do. Everything just dies. > > But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this > more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you > correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up > questions that might be helpful in debugging. > > If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from > hard drive option may not be available either. > > So, let's take this one step at a time. > > PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local > as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be > excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive > based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user > data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but > this is aside from your more immediate problem. > > > Janina > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` nick G @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. nick G writes: > I Checked the original iso image. I don't know how to check the MD5 sum on > the Burned CD without mounting it under linux...Something that FC2 isn't > letting me do. You don't need to mount it. In fact, that would interfere. Open the file MD5SUM in a text editor that does not wrap long lines. The filename for each individual checksum is at the end of each line. Find the filename corresponding to the CD ROM you want to check and edit the filename out, replacing it with the correct device for your CD ROM device. Delete the rest of the file, and save the result to a new filename. Example: The first line of MD5SUM is: 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 FC3-i386-disc1.iso So, you can start by deleting everything below this line. Then, replace FC3-i386-disc1.iso with the device disignation for your CD ROM. One possible result might be: 3051115a70ebc491d438dd21632b1412 /dev/cdrom Of course, you must supply a correct device designation.i Next, save to a new file name, perhaps MD5cdr1 Now, you can run md5sum like this: md5sum -c MD5cdr1 You really only need to do the first CD ROM for now. Once you are successfully booting the installation, we can go back and do the rest. > Under windows, I cant check a folder and it's subfolders > with WinMD5Sum. Whatever. This is a nonsequitor. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` Janina Sajka ` nick G @ ` nick G ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Let's take a raincheck on the MD5 because checking the actual CD is not possible under windows, and under linux it's not letting me mount the CD drive. The last thing I hear before everything gets caught up in a Panic and speakup dies is running /sbin/loader. Thanks, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct? Let's review the basics: 1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image and the media you created from those images? If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and nick G writes: > I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier. Yes, I do have > a > version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could. To me however, > it > isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary. > Thanks, > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > nick G writes: > > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, > > Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more > to the point parted, you still could--but read on. > > >otherwise I could probably > > do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do > > not > > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before > > I > > do. Everything just dies. > > But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this > more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you > correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up > questions that might be helpful in debugging. > > If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from > hard drive option may not be available either. > > So, let's take this one step at a time. > > PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local > as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be > excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive > based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user > data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but > this is aside from your more immediate problem. > > > Janina > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` nick G @ ` Janina Sajka ` nick G 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Please see my previous message for how to md5sum the media. What is "caught up in a panic" mean? I don't recognize that as technology. nick G writes: > Let's take a raincheck on the MD5 because checking the actual CD is not > possible under windows, and under linux it's not letting me mount the CD > drive. The last thing I hear before everything gets caught up in a Panic > and speakup dies is running /sbin/loader. > Thanks, > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct? > > Let's review the basics: > > 1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image > and the media you created from those images? > > If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what > error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting > and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go > wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and > > > > nick G writes: > > I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier. Yes, I do have > > a > > version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could. To me however, > > it > > isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM > > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > > > > nick G writes: > > > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, > > > > Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more > > to the point parted, you still could--but read on. > > > > >otherwise I could probably > > > do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do > > > not > > > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics before > > > I > > > do. Everything just dies. > > > > But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this > > more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you > > correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up > > questions that might be helpful in debugging. > > > > If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from > > hard drive option may not be available either. > > > > So, let's take this one step at a time. > > > > PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local > > as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be > > excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive > > based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user > > data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but > > this is aside from your more immediate problem. > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk ` Janina Sajka @ ` nick G 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Woe! Mounting my CDRom...Just caused my system to crash. I know this doesn't follow protocal but I"m going to test this image on other hardware to see what it does Crashing normally isn't cool, but it gave me an idea. Thanks, Nick P.S. "Caught up in a Panic" is just more words for a Kernel Panic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk Please see my previous message for how to md5sum the media. What is "caught up in a panic" mean? I don't recognize that as technology. nick G writes: > Let's take a raincheck on the MD5 because checking the actual CD is not > possible under windows, and under linux it's not letting me mount the CD > drive. The last thing I hear before everything gets caught up in a Panic > and speakup dies is running /sbin/loader. > Thanks, > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:15 AM > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > OK. So we know FC has installed on this box before? Is that correct? > > Let's review the basics: > > 1.) You ran md5sum check. Did you check both the original iso image > and the media you created from those images? > > If you don't get to the language and keyboard selection screens, what > error, precisely, are you getting? It sounds like Speakup is starting > and you have output. If that is correct, where exactly do things go > wrong. What is the last thing you hear, and > > > > nick G writes: > > I do have a functioning FC2 which makes this even crazier. Yes, I do > > have > > a > > version of parted, so if I had to do it this way i could. To me > > however, > > it > > isn't Ideal, but at this point I will install by any means necessary. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:36 PM > > Subject: Re: Here we go again. FC3 panics when booting the first disk > > > > > > nick G writes: > > > I don't think FC2 comes with fdisk or anything, > > > > Wrong. It most certainly does, and if you didn't install fdisk, and more > > to the point parted, you still could--but read on. > > > > >otherwise I could probably > > > do something. That's what I mean I'm forced to do it this way. I do > > > not > > > get the language or keyboard sellection screans because it panics > > > before > > > I > > > do. Everything just dies. > > > > But, you do have a working FC2 on this box? Excuse me for asking this > > more than once, but I want to be very certain I understand you > > correctly. If you do have a functioning FC2, I have some follow up > > questions that might be helpful in debugging. > > > > If you do not get the language and keyboard screens, the install from > > hard drive option may not be available either. > > > > So, let's take this one step at a time. > > > > PS: On general principle you should have /home, and possibly /usr/local > > as separate partitions on an existing LInux install. Those would be > > excellent locations for the iso images in preparation for a hard drive > > based installation, as you would likely not want to lose all your user > > data from /home, for example. The HOWTO recommends such a strategy--but > > this is aside from your more immediate problem. > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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