Install hangs at first boot

Install hangs at first boot

[Jon Dowd]

Hi List,

I've downloaded and burned 2 sets of the RedHat 7.3 iso's and am having
trouble installing either of them (the results are same regardless of media
used). The installation seemingly proceeds fine until the first boot, at
which time the system will hang at the point where the message is displayed
"OK Now booting the kernel". The perplexing issue for me is that these discs
have installed successfully on two computers, but failed on three others.
The package choices are identical in all cases, as are all the choices
during the install. The failures have occurred on a Pentium 4, with two
30gig HDDs, failed on a Pentium 3 with a 10gig and a 30gig HDD, failed on a
Pentium 60MHz with a 1gig HDD, succeeded on a K6 500 and a K6 550. What do
you think ?



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Re: Install hangs at first boot

[Janina Sajka]

John:

We can't help you if you don't tell us what the error is. Failed just 
doesn't describe it.

Please note that Speakup will talk, even on systems which won't boot. So, 
you should be able to provide us more specific data about the error.

What is it? A kernel panick? On what device??



On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Jon Dowd wrote:

> Hi List,
> 
> I've downloaded and burned 2 sets of the RedHat 7.3 iso's and am having
> trouble installing either of them (the results are same regardless of media
> used). The installation seemingly proceeds fine until the first boot, at
> which time the system will hang at the point where the message is displayed
> "OK Now booting the kernel". The perplexing issue for me is that these discs
> have installed successfully on two computers, but failed on three others.
> The package choices are identical in all cases, as are all the choices
> during the install. The failures have occurred on a Pentium 4, with two
> 30gig HDDs, failed on a Pentium 3 with a 10gig and a 30gig HDD, failed on a
> Pentium 60MHz with a 1gig HDD, succeeded on a K6 500 and a K6 550. What do
> you think ?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Install hangs at first boot

[Jon Dowd]

Without any sound coming from the synth, after the computer completes its
POST > oh, nevermind. I just booted the computer one more time to more
accurately describe the error, and this time it didn't hang... started right
up. I'll get back to you if needed. Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Install hangs at first boot


> John:
>
> We can't help you if you don't tell us what the error is. Failed just
> doesn't describe it.
>
> Please note that Speakup will talk, even on systems which won't boot. So,
> you should be able to provide us more specific data about the error.
>
> What is it? A kernel panick? On what device??
>
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Jon Dowd wrote:
>
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I've downloaded and burned 2 sets of the RedHat 7.3 iso's and am having
> > trouble installing either of them (the results are same regardless of
media
> > used). The installation seemingly proceeds fine until the first boot, at
> > which time the system will hang at the point where the message is
displayed
> > "OK Now booting the kernel". The perplexing issue for me is that these
discs
> > have installed successfully on two computers, but failed on three
others.
> > The package choices are identical in all cases, as are all the choices
> > during the install. The failures have occurred on a Pentium 4, with two
> > 30gig HDDs, failed on a Pentium 3 with a 10gig and a 30gig HDD, failed
on a
> > Pentium 60MHz with a 1gig HDD, succeeded on a K6 500 and a K6 550. What
do
> > you think ?
> >
> >
> >
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>
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Re: Install hangs at first boot

[Kerry Hoath]

I found that on one machine; lilo worked where grub did not.
I did not chase the problem down further although I should at some stage.
Note that any boot partition should be in the first 8.4gb of the
primary drive; there are bioses that claim to support >8.4gb
extentions but don't correctly; so boots beyond 8.4gb fail
mysteriously.
If these machines are only r unning Linux; make sure grub/lilo are installed
int he mbr; otherwise they should be installed
in the first partiton boot sector of the linux primary partition.
By the way; does making a boot disk for t he machines work during hte install?
I found if I made a boot disk; the hard drive failed to boot
so I used the boot disk. I then fixed lilo
after the system was booted.

Regards, Kerry.
On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 04:47:41AM -0700, Jon Dowd wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> I've downloaded and burned 2 sets of the RedHat 7.3 iso's and am having
> trouble installing either of them (the results are same regardless of media
> used). The installation seemingly proceeds fine until the first boot, at
> which time the system will hang at the point where the message is displayed
> "OK Now booting the kernel". The perplexing issue for me is that these discs
> have installed successfully on two computers, but failed on three others.
> The package choices are identical in all cases, as are all the choices
> during the install. The failures have occurred on a Pentium 4, with two
> 30gig HDDs, failed on a Pentium 3 with a 10gig and a 30gig HDD, failed on a
> Pentium 60MHz with a 1gig HDD, succeeded on a K6 500 and a K6 550. What do
> you think ?
> 
> 
> 
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Revisiting Install hangs at first boot

[Jon Dowd]

The error has returned. The fact that it booted once was a fluke, won't
boot. Here's what happens :

Once the computer is turned on, after the POST, the RedHat GUI for LILO is
displayed. Two choices are offered; DOS and linux, the latter being default.
Ten seconds pass the GUI disappears and in the upper left of the screen the
following is displayed :

"Loading linux....................."

followed immediately with a new line :

"Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."

a cursor will appear and blink, under the U and that's it. No sound from the
synth. No error message regarding kernel panic, just that. Dead halt, will
stay with those two lines showing for hours, until I reboot and then the
same.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, this has happened on three computers I
have installed using the RedHat 7.3 discs from the link at
linux-speakup.org) all of which have Intel Pentium processors. I have had
the system work on two other computers, using the same discs, the exact same
choices during the install, one difference being AMD processors. On the two
computers I have succeeded with I have the ltlk synth talking, doing PPP
using wvdail on an external USR 56k modem. Any ideas? Are there other
symptoms, etc. I need to mention?

Thanks,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Install hangs at first boot


> John:
>
> We can't help you if you don't tell us what the error is. Failed just
> doesn't describe it.
>
> Please note that Speakup will talk, even on systems which won't boot. So,
> you should be able to provide us more specific data about the error.
>
> What is it? A kernel panick? On what device??
>
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Jon Dowd wrote:
>
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I've downloaded and burned 2 sets of the RedHat 7.3 iso's and am having
> > trouble installing either of them (the results are same regardless of
media
> > used). The installation seemingly proceeds fine until the first boot, at
> > which time the system will hang at the point where the message is
displayed
> > "OK Now booting the kernel". The perplexing issue for me is that these
discs
> > have installed successfully on two computers, but failed on three
others.
> > The package choices are identical in all cases, as are all the choices
> > during the install. The failures have occurred on a Pentium 4, with two
> > 30gig HDDs, failed on a Pentium 3 with a 10gig and a 30gig HDD, failed
on a
> > Pentium 60MHz with a 1gig HDD, succeeded on a K6 500 and a K6 550. What
do
> > you think ?



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Re: Revisiting Install hangs at first boot

[Jon Dowd]

Just tried it with GRUB selected as the boot loader. Same results. Using the
boot floppy created during the install provides the same results. I have
used "Autopartition" and set up the two drives like this :

/dev/hda
hda1 20gig FAT32
/dev/hdb
hdb1 /boot 50MB
hdb2 / 24500MB
hdb3 swap 500MB

I have tried placing the boot loader in the mbr of hda and I have tried
placing the boot loader in the other choice.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Dowd" <jondowd@mind.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:30 PM
Subject: Revisiting Install hangs at first boot


> The error has returned. The fact that it booted once was a fluke, won't
> boot. Here's what happens :
>
> Once the computer is turned on, after the POST, the RedHat GUI for LILO is
> displayed. Two choices are offered; DOS and linux, the latter being
default.
> Ten seconds pass the GUI disappears and in the upper left of the screen
the
> following is displayed :
>
> "Loading linux....................."
>
> followed immediately with a new line :
>
> "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."
>
> a cursor will appear and blink, under the U and that's it. No sound from
the
> synth. No error message regarding kernel panic, just that. Dead halt, will
> stay with those two lines showing for hours, until I reboot and then the
> same.
>
> As I mentioned in my earlier post, this has happened on three computers I
> have installed using the RedHat 7.3 discs from the link at
> linux-speakup.org) all of which have Intel Pentium processors. I have had
> the system work on two other computers, using the same discs, the exact
same
> choices during the install, one difference being AMD processors. On the
two
> computers I have succeeded with I have the ltlk synth talking, doing PPP
> using wvdail on an external USR 56k modem. Any ideas? Are there other
> symptoms, etc. I need to mention?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Install hangs at first boot
>
>
> > John:
> >
> > We can't help you if you don't tell us what the error is. Failed just
> > doesn't describe it.
> >
> > Please note that Speakup will talk, even on systems which won't boot.
So,
> > you should be able to provide us more specific data about the error.
> >
> > What is it? A kernel panick? On what device??
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Jon Dowd wrote:
> >
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > > I've downloaded and burned 2 sets of the RedHat 7.3 iso's and am
having
> > > trouble installing either of them (the results are same regardless of
> media
> > > used). The installation seemingly proceeds fine until the first boot,
at
> > > which time the system will hang at the point where the message is
> displayed
> > > "OK Now booting the kernel". The perplexing issue for me is that these
> discs
> > > have installed successfully on two computers, but failed on three
> others.
> > > The package choices are identical in all cases, as are all the choices
> > > during the install. The failures have occurred on a Pentium 4, with
two
> > > 30gig HDDs, failed on a Pentium 3 with a 10gig and a 30gig HDD, failed
> on a
> > > Pentium 60MHz with a 1gig HDD, succeeded on a K6 500 and a K6 550.
What
> do
> > > you think ?
>
>
>
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Re: Revisiting Install hangs at first boot

[Scott Howell]

I've seen this "uncompressing kernel image" message before.
I'm sitting here trying to recall what the problem is. A few suggestions
that come to mind is first make sure lilo knows exactly where your
kernel image lives, make sure it is in the first 8gb as suggested to
you, make sure if you either downloaded the kernel or compiled it that
you in fact have compiled it for the correct processor although it
should boot regardless even if behaves incorrectly, make sure again you
go over the liloconf file carefully and note where everything is because
its possible lilo can't find the image, oh and also you might check to
see that there is a line that says something like,
 Support LBA for large hard disks.
#
lba32

and beyond that, begin running in circles, scream, and then attack the
problem again.

good luck

Scott

Re: Install hangs at first boot

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, I think I know exactly what your problem is. Try checking the force
lba32 option on the boot loader configuration screen during install.
I had this problem on several of my drives, and checking force lba32 during
install fixed it.
That is on the same screen that you put in the lines to have speakup come up
talking on startup.