permissions question

permissions question

[showell]

Folks,

I created a group, I made the directory and set it to be owned by root 
and the group, I also made all the files owned by root and the group, I 
then added myself to the group using the usermod program, but yet I 
can't write to the directory. What could I be doing wrong here?
I read over the man page for usermod and assumed based on what I read 
that I was on the correct path.
Any suggestions appreciated.

Scott

Re: permissions question

[Ari Moisio]

Hi!

  Sometimes you have to re-login before group chages work.

  What does command 'id' tell about your current  groups?


-- 
arimo

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 showell@lrxms.net wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I created a group, I made the directory and set it to be owned by root
> and the group, I also made all the files owned by root and the group, I
> then added myself to the group using the usermod program, but yet I
> can't write to the directory. What could I be doing wrong here?
> I read over the man page for usermod and assumed based on what I read
> that I was on the correct path.
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
> Scott
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: permissions question

[showell]

Ari,

When I run id I get the following.

uid=500(showell) gid=500(showell) groups=500(showell),503(x10)

I did try logging out of one shell and logging back in with no change. 
The program just says it can't write to that directory. The directory is 
off /etc, but I wouldn't think this would matter.

tnx
Scott

Re: permissions question

[Sean McMahon]

You have to run usermod as root of course.  You can always add yourself to
the group by editing the /etc/groups file.
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <arimo@netsonic.fi>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: permissions question


> Ari,
>
> When I run id I get the following.
>
> uid=500(showell) gid=500(showell) groups=500(showell),503(x10)
>
> I did try logging out of one shell and logging back in with no change.
> The program just says it can't write to that directory. The directory is
> off /etc, but I wouldn't think this would matter.
>
> tnx
> Scott
>
>
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Re: permissions question

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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You need to ensure the group has read, write, and execute permission
for the directory, and read write permission for the files you want
to be accessable by the group. The following should accomplish this,
assuming you want the group to be able to read and write all files in
the directory.

chmod g=rwX <directory name> -R

Replace <directory name> with the name of the directory you are
setting permissions on. Also, note that the X is capitalized. If you
don't do this, you will set group execute on all of the files and the
directory, which is not what you want.
- ---
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:02 AM
Subject: permissions question


> Folks,
> 
> I created a group, I made the directory and set it to be owned by
> root  and the group, I also made all the files owned by root and
> the group, I  then added myself to the group using the usermod
> program, but yet I  can't write to the directory. What could I be
> doing wrong here?
> I read over the man page for usermod and assumed based on what I
> read  that I was on the correct path.
> Any suggestions appreciated.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hello,

I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY and
Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop comes up.  I would
like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode shell and manually
run the startx command when I want the gui.

Thanks for any help as to how to do this.

--Al

Re: permissions question

[showell]

Ah, yeah that's what I did. And gee guess what happen, you probably 
guessed correctly, I posted a message here as the plan just didn't fly.


On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:44:32AM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote:
> You have to run usermod as root of course.  You can always add yourself to
> the group by editing the /etc/groups file.
> Sean

Re: permissions question

[showell]

Ay, thanks very much. I thought just by changing the ownership of the 
files would have done the job as they seemed to have the correct read 
write access. After running chmod that fixed it all just fine. Thanks 
again for your assistance.

Scott

Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Erik Heil]

What you need to do is change the system's default runlevel for this to
occur.  Various runlevels dictate whether the machine will boot into a
graphics or text mode UI.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: How to stop X from starting at logon?


> Hello,
>
> I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY and
> Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop comes up.  I
would
> like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode shell and manually
> run the startx command when I want the gui.
>
> Thanks for any help as to how to do this.
>
> --Al
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  That answer isn't correct for Debian.  Unlike some other distros,
Debian doesn't make different run levels for graphic or text logins.
You might not want to answer questions about a distro if you haven't
used it.

         Kenny

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:53:18AM -0500, Erik Heil wrote:
> What you need to do is change the system's default runlevel for this to
> occur.  Various runlevels dictate whether the machine will boot into a
> graphics or text mode UI.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:36 PM
> Subject: How to stop X from starting at logon?
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY and
> > Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop comes up.  I
> would
> > like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode shell and manually
> > run the startx command when I want the gui.
> >
> > Thanks for any help as to how to do this.
> >
> > --Al
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Charles Crawford]

The level is 3 as I recall.
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Erik Heil wrote:

> What you need to do is change the system's default runlevel for this to
> occur.  Various runlevels dictate whether the machine will boot into a
> graphics or text mode UI.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:36 PM
> Subject: How to stop X from starting at logon?
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY and
> > Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop comes up.  I
> would
> > like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode shell and manually
> > run the startx command when I want the gui.
> >
> > Thanks for any help as to how to do this.
> >
> > --Al
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
-- Charlie Crawford

Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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Go to your inittab file and set the default runlevel to 3. (It is
still 3 I think)
- ---
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:36 PM
Subject: How to stop X from starting at logon?


> Hello,
> 
> I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY and
> Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop comes up.
>  I would like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode
> shell and manually run the startx command when I want the gui.
> 
> Thanks for any help as to how to do this.
> 
> --Al
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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The gentleman said he was running Fedora, not Debian. Fedora does in
fact use runlevels to control whether X starts or not.
- ---
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
To: "Erik Heil" <eheil@patmedia.net>; "Speakup is a screen review
system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?


> Hi.  That answer isn't correct for Debian.  Unlike some other
> distros, Debian doesn't make different run levels for graphic or
> text logins. You might not want to answer questions about a distro
> if you haven't used it.
> 
>          Kenny
> 
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:53:18AM -0500, Erik Heil wrote:
> > What you need to do is change the system's default runlevel for
> > this to occur.  Various runlevels dictate whether the machine
> > will boot into a graphics or text mode UI.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:36 PM
> > Subject: How to stop X from starting at logon?
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY
> > > and Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop
> > > comes up.  I 
> > would
> > > like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode shell
> > > and manually run the startx command when I want the gui.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help as to how to do this.
> > >
> > > --Al
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Kenny Hitt]

Oops, should read before I reply.

          Kenny

On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:45:09PM -0700, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:
> 
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> The gentleman said he was running Fedora, not Debian. Fedora does in
> fact use runlevels to control whether X starts or not.
> - ---
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> - ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
> To: "Erik Heil" <eheil@patmedia.net>; "Speakup is a screen review
> system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:20 AM
> Subject: Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?
> 
> 
> > Hi.  That answer isn't correct for Debian.  Unlike some other
> > distros, Debian doesn't make different run levels for graphic or
> > text logins. You might not want to answer questions about a distro
> > if you haven't used it.
> > 
> >          Kenny
> > 
> > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:53:18AM -0500, Erik Heil wrote:
> > > What you need to do is change the system's default runlevel for
> > > this to occur.  Various runlevels dictate whether the machine
> > > will boot into a graphics or text mode UI.
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:36 PM
> > > Subject: How to stop X from starting at logon?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY
> > > > and Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop
> > > > comes up.  I 
> > > would
> > > > like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode shell
> > > > and manually run the startx command when I want the gui.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help as to how to do this.
> > > >
> > > > --Al
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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No problem, we're all guilty of this at one point or another. By the
way, creative domain name you have there.
- ---
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?


> Oops, should read before I reply.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:45:09PM -0700, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:
> > 
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> > 
> > The gentleman said he was running Fedora, not Debian. Fedora does in
> > fact use runlevels to control whether X starts or not.
> > - ---
> > Joseph C. Lininger
> > jbahm@pcdesk.net
> > - ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
> > To: "Erik Heil" <eheil@patmedia.net>; "Speakup is a screen review
> > system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: How to stop X from starting at logon?
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi.  That answer isn't correct for Debian.  Unlike some other
> > > distros, Debian doesn't make different run levels for graphic or
> > > text logins. You might not want to answer questions about a distro
> > > if you haven't used it.
> > > 
> > >          Kenny
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:53:18AM -0500, Erik Heil wrote:
> > > > What you need to do is change the system's default runlevel for
> > > > this to occur.  Various runlevels dictate whether the machine
> > > > will boot into a graphics or text mode UI.
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
> > > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:36 PM
> > > > Subject: How to stop X from starting at logon?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am running Fedora and using a combination of Speakup, BRLTTY
> > > > > and Gnopernicus.  By default when I log in, the gnome desktop
> > > > > comes up.  I 
> > > > would
> > > > > like to change the setup so that I log into a text mode shell
> > > > > and manually run the startx command when I want the gui.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help as to how to do this.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Al
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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