* couple linux(deb) questions
@ Littlefield, Tyler
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From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hello list,
I've got a couple questions.
First, is there a way to find out what libs are installed, but aren't being depended on? I know I have extra packages, and don't want to keep them if I don't meed them, e.g libraries mainly.
Second, is there a way to get all my manpages installed? I used to be able to do man cfunction, and I could see something, now I don't get anything. I believe I'm missing a package, just not sure which.
Thanks,
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* Re: couple linux(deb) questions [not found] ` <20070331183134.GB3267@cm.nu> @ ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. will do, and I'm using ssh, so can't use aptitude THX, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane" <shane-keyword-speakup.aca783@cm.nu> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 10:28:54AM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > First, is there a way to find out what libs are installed, but aren't being depended on? I know I have extra packages, and don't want to keep them if I don't meed them, e.g libraries mainly. > > Have a look at the deborphan package. Also, if you use > aptitude to install packages and it pulls in libs, aptitude > tracks that and removes the libs when they are no longer > needed unlike apt-get. > > > Second, is there a way to get all my manpages installed? I used to be able to do man cfunction, and I could see something, now I don't get anything. I believe I'm missing a package, just not sure which. > > The libc and syscall functions are in manpages-dev package, > lots of other stuff in manpages. > > Hth, > Shane > > -- > http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Littlefield, Tyler @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Littlefield, Tyler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:36:31AM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > will do, and I'm using ssh, so can't use aptitude > Why not? Aptitude works just fine over ssh. The only time I could see aptitude not working fine over ssh is if you're using a windows client. I haven't tried that though, so this is just a guess, which may be totally incorrect. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDrCH7s9z/XlyUyARAqK2AJ0VmG0lH7ONnctm7W+qbBXAq9gA9gCgoFMc 7yZ6VSQx05lD96yhpaXCEi4= =rlLD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Gregory Nowak ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. BTW, I've got one final quetsion. I was playing with uptime, and wanted to see if I could change it. I found where you write uptime to, /proc/uptime, but I can't change it, any ideas? THX, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:36:31AM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > will do, and I'm using ssh, so can't use aptitude > > > > Why not? Aptitude works just fine over ssh. The only time I could see > aptitude not working fine over ssh is if you're using a windows > client. I haven't tried that though, so this is just a guess, which > may be totally incorrect. > > Greg > > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGDrCH7s9z/XlyUyARAqK2AJ0VmG0lH7ONnctm7W+qbBXAq9gA9gCgoFMc > 7yZ6VSQx05lD96yhpaXCEi4= > =rlLD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Littlefield, Tyler @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Adam Myrow ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 /proc/uptime isn't writeable, for good and obvious reasons is my opinion. Greg On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 12:10:05PM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. > BTW, I've got one final quetsion. > I was playing with uptime, and wanted to see if I could change it. I found > where you write uptime to, /proc/uptime, but I can't change it, any ideas? > THX, - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDrcE7s9z/XlyUyARAvrKAKCHLOM8V+HL6DP17wC8UZtYTwLdKACfTskW 62/i6+AciBs1GchoIvFUmyM= =nMgg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Littlefield, Tyler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. maybe obvious, but I heard it was possible to change, it'd be cool to have an uptime of like 400000 days or something. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > /proc/uptime isn't writeable, for good and obvious reasons is my > opinion. > > Greg > > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 12:10:05PM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. > > BTW, I've got one final quetsion. > > I was playing with uptime, and wanted to see if I could change it. I found > > where you write uptime to, /proc/uptime, but I can't change it, any ideas? > > THX, > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGDrcE7s9z/XlyUyARAvrKAKCHLOM8V+HL6DP17wC8UZtYTwLdKACfTskW > 62/i6+AciBs1GchoIvFUmyM= > =nMgg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Adam Myrow ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Erik Heil ` Alex Snow 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. How? Any error messages? What terminal type do you have set? Are you sure you have the Ncurses libraries/headers installed? You should be able to use almost any Ncurses-based program over an SSH link. That's the whole point of the library, to provide an interface that works on many different types of terminals. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Adam Myrow @ ` Littlefield, Tyler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It just doesn't read. I've tried vt100, and linux, to no avale. I've got libs installed, the progs work fine. Thanks, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Myrow" <myrowa@bellsouth.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. > > How? Any error messages? What terminal type do you have set? Are you > sure you have the Ncurses libraries/headers installed? You should be able > to use almost any Ncurses-based program over an SSH link. That's the > whole point of the library, to provide an interface that works on many > different types of terminals. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam Myrow @ ` Erik Heil ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Alex Snow 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. Why would you want to change it? Anyways, you can't change it, because that is mounted RO in the proc filesystem. On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:10:05 -0700 > From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <compgeek13@gmail.com> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. > BTW, I've got one final quetsion. > I was playing with uptime, and wanted to see if I could change it. I found > where you write uptime to, /proc/uptime, but I can't change it, any ideas? > THX, > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:36:31AM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > > will do, and I'm using ssh, so can't use aptitude > > > > > > > Why not? Aptitude works just fine over ssh. The only time I could see > > aptitude not working fine over ssh is if you're using a windows > > client. I haven't tried that though, so this is just a guess, which > > may be totally incorrect. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > - -- > > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > > skype: gregn1 > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > - -- > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFGDrCH7s9z/XlyUyARAqK2AJ0VmG0lH7ONnctm7W+qbBXAq9gA9gCgoFMc > > 7yZ6VSQx05lD96yhpaXCEi4= > > =rlLD > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > eheil@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Erik Heil @ ` Littlefield, Tyler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks, I'll change fstab, or remount it. Just for fun, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@sdf.lonestar.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > Hi. > Why would you want to change it? Anyways, you can't change it, because > that is mounted RO in the proc filesystem. > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:10:05 -0700 > > From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <compgeek13@gmail.com> > > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > > > > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. > > BTW, I've got one final quetsion. > > I was playing with uptime, and wanted to see if I could change it. I found > > where you write uptime to, /proc/uptime, but I can't change it, any ideas? > > THX, > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:03 PM > > Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:36:31AM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > > > will do, and I'm using ssh, so can't use aptitude > > > > > > > > > > Why not? Aptitude works just fine over ssh. The only time I could see > > > aptitude not working fine over ssh is if you're using a windows > > > client. I haven't tried that though, so this is just a guess, which > > > may be totally incorrect. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > - -- > > > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > > > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > > > skype: gregn1 > > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > > > - -- > > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQFGDrCH7s9z/XlyUyARAqK2AJ0VmG0lH7ONnctm7W+qbBXAq9gA9gCgoFMc > > > 7yZ6VSQx05lD96yhpaXCEi4= > > > =rlLD > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > eheil@sdf.lonestar.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Littlefield, Tyler ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Erik Heil @ ` Alex Snow ` Nick Gawronski 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You can't change your uptime...that would be cheating if you could. On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 12:10:05PM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. > BTW, I've got one final quetsion. > I was playing with uptime, and wanted to see if I could change it. I found > where you write uptime to, /proc/uptime, but I can't change it, any ideas? > THX, > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:36:31AM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > > will do, and I'm using ssh, so can't use aptitude > > > > > > > Why not? Aptitude works just fine over ssh. The only time I could see > > aptitude not working fine over ssh is if you're using a windows > > client. I haven't tried that though, so this is just a guess, which > > may be totally incorrect. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > - -- > > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > > skype: gregn1 > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > - -- > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFGDrCH7s9z/XlyUyARAqK2AJ0VmG0lH7ONnctm7W+qbBXAq9gA9gCgoFMc > > 7yZ6VSQx05lD96yhpaXCEi4= > > =rlLD > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- How do I type "for i in *.dvi do xdvi $i done" in a GUI? -- Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` Alex Snow @ ` Nick Gawronski 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Nick Gawronski @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, Changing your uptime is like changing the miles on your car and then selling it saying the car had only 1000 miles when it really has 2000 miles on itOn Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Alex Snow wrote: > You can't change your uptime...that would be cheating if you could. > On > Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 12:10:05PM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > I'm using SecureCRT, and all ncurses-based progs die. > > BTW, I've got one final quetsion. > > I was playing with uptime, and wanted to see if I could change it. I found > > where you write uptime to, /proc/uptime, but I can't change it, any ideas? > > THX, > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:03 PM > > Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:36:31AM -0700, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > > > will do, and I'm using ssh, so can't use aptitude > > > > > > > > > > Why not? Aptitude works just fine over ssh. The only time I could see > > > aptitude not working fine over ssh is if you're using a windows > > > client. I haven't tried that though, so this is just a guess, which > > > may be totally incorrect. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > - -- > > > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > > > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > > > skype: gregn1 > > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > > > - -- > > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQFGDrCH7s9z/XlyUyARAqK2AJ0VmG0lH7ONnctm7W+qbBXAq9gA9gCgoFMc > > > 7yZ6VSQx05lD96yhpaXCEi4= > > > =rlLD > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions couple linux(deb) questions Littlefield, Tyler [not found] ` <20070331183134.GB3267@cm.nu> @ ` Erik Heil ` John Heim 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. If you want the manpages for functions, their are a lot of sources to get them. Someof them are free, the others ship as part of a Linux system. For Posix-based manpages, their is actually a Debian package that contains them. Note though that is in the nonfree section of the distrobution. Af far as documentation for libraries, usually their is a doc package associated with it. This will include the libary documentation you seek. On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:28:54 -0700 > From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <compgeek13@gmail.com> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Subject: couple linux(deb) questions > > Hello list, > I've got a couple questions. > First, is there a way to find out what libs are installed, but aren't being depended on? I know I have extra packages, and don't want to keep them if I don't meed them, e.g libraries mainly. > Second, is there a way to get all my manpages installed? I used to be able to do man cfunction, and I could see something, now I don't get anything. I believe I'm missing a package, just not sure which. > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > eheil@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions couple linux(deb) questions Littlefield, Tyler [not found] ` <20070331183134.GB3267@cm.nu> ` Erik Heil @ ` John Heim ` Gregory Nowak ` (2 more replies) 2 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I hate it when people don't answer the question actually asked but based on this question and the one you asked about finding duplicate files, I'm going to guess you're trying to free up some disk space. Well, looking for orphaned libs is probably a waste of time. You'll never free up much space that way. You might be able to do something with the tools for finding orphaned packages. That would allow you to remove whole apps rather than just the libs they may use. But even that probably won't get you much. If you're running out of space, you should look in your home directories. Use the du command to see where most of it is going. ie: $ du -sh * I have a laptop with a 6 Gb drive and it is only 30% full. And I have apache, mysql, gcc, perl, and a bunch of other tools installed. I've always just installed anything I wanted. Never had any problems with disk space. The only thing is I don't have X installed. But even so, your os just doesn't take up that much space. And the libs are only a small part of the os. I would forget about looking to free up space by removing libs. You're more likely to trash something important than you are to free up significant space. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <compgeek13@gmail.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: couple linux(deb) questions > Hello list, > I've got a couple questions. > First, is there a way to find out what libs are installed, but aren't > being depended on? I know I have extra packages, and don't want to keep > them if I don't meed them, e.g libraries mainly. > Second, is there a way to get all my manpages installed? I used to be able > to do man cfunction, and I could see something, now I don't get anything. > I believe I'm missing a package, just not sure which. > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` John Heim @ ` Gregory Nowak ` OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) John Heim ` couple linux(deb) questions Littlefield, Tyler ` Doug Smith 2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 03:20:08PM -0500, John Heim wrote: > I have a laptop with a 6 Gb drive and it is only 30% full. And I have > apache, mysql, gcc, perl, and a bunch of other tools installed. Hmm, just wondering, why install apache on a laptop? Are you using it as a server? That seems like a limit on a laptop's potential to me, even if it's an old laptop, which it seems to be given the hd space. The older machines are still useful as portables when running gnu/linux. I say that from experience, I've got a laptop here that's only got a 4gb hd. Greg - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGECNu7s9z/XlyUyARAo+sAKCS2oIDoeFGjw0g6ROiq9FbM6TBMACfa0A2 WtgahSyWJSObOn/C65HalvQ= =Wgeb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) ` Gregory Nowak @ ` John Heim ` Gregory Nowak ` C.M. Brannon 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. ~----- Original Message ----- > > Hmm, just wondering, why install apache on a laptop? Are you using it > as a server? That seems like a limit on a laptop's potential to me, I took it to job interviews and used it to show off my web apps. I didn't need a network connection because apache was running on the laptop. So during the interview, I'd boot my laptop and show both my web app and how I'd work with the screen reader. I started doing that after some people seemed kind of shocked to see a blind guy show up for a job interview. Hard to believe but some people aren't aware that blind people can use computers. I thought that showing them that I was actually quite functional, maybe even fluent, on a computer would give me a better chance. I even brought a cross-over cable and had dhcp running so they could connect their PC to my laptop, get an IP, and run the web apps on their PC. All this on a 150 Mhz laptop with 56 Mb of ram and a 6 Gb hard drive. And it wasn't bad in terms of speed. The web pages took a little while to load, 2 or 3 seconds, but that was easily explained. I thought it was a very impressive show but even so, I was looking for a job for about a year. I was already working at the University of Wisconsin at the time but I was warned I might be a layoff victim. So I had time to look for another job. I think though, that the laptop was a big part of why I ended up here at the University of Wisconsin, Math Department. They seemed very interested in what I had done with it. I guess I can remove all that stuff now. I've been here for 2 years as of yesterday. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) ` OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) John Heim @ ` Gregory Nowak ` John Heim ` C.M. Brannon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oh, ok, an interesting concept. Haven't thought of a possibility like that. Greg On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:03:57AM -0500, John Heim wrote: > I took it to job interviews and used it to show off my web apps. I didn't > need a network connection because apache was running on the laptop. So > during the interview, I'd boot my laptop and show both my web app and how > I'd work with the screen reader. > > I started doing that after some people seemed kind of shocked to see a blind > guy show up for a job interview. Hard to believe but some people aren't > aware that blind people can use computers. I thought that showing them that > I was actually quite functional, maybe even fluent, on a computer would give > me a better chance. > > I even brought a cross-over cable and had dhcp running so they could connect > their PC to my laptop, get an IP, and run the web apps on their PC. All this > on a 150 Mhz laptop with 56 Mb of ram and a 6 Gb hard drive. And it wasn't > bad in terms of speed. The web pages took a little while to load, 2 or 3 > seconds, but that was easily explained. > > I thought it was a very impressive show but even so, I was looking for a > job for about a year. I was already working at the University of Wisconsin > at the time but I was warned I might be a layoff victim. So I had time to > look for another job. I think though, that the laptop was a big part of why > I ended up here at the University of Wisconsin, Math Department. They > seemed very interested in what I had done with it. > > I guess I can remove all that stuff now. I've been here for 2 years as of > yesterday. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGESA37s9z/XlyUyARAjCiAJ0ewrpnsv7372vE+vj4bGJHw9Eg1ACggtuI 1mH/vvKgJq2i7m+r4vPflRQ= =w91i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) ` Gregory Nowak @ ` John Heim 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: John Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. One note... I said I had dhcp running -- that is not correct. I started it manually if necessary. It would be a bad thing to go to a job interview and plug a laptop running dhcp into the network. That would not get you the job. It might get you escorted off the premises though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Oh, ok, an interesting concept. Haven't thought of a possibility like > that. > > Greg > > > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:03:57AM -0500, John Heim wrote: >> I took it to job interviews and used it to show off my web apps. I didn't >> need a network connection because apache was running on the laptop. So >> during the interview, I'd boot my laptop and show both my web app and how >> I'd work with the screen reader. >> >> I started doing that after some people seemed kind of shocked to see a >> blind >> guy show up for a job interview. Hard to believe but some people aren't >> aware that blind people can use computers. I thought that showing them >> that >> I was actually quite functional, maybe even fluent, on a computer would >> give >> me a better chance. >> >> I even brought a cross-over cable and had dhcp running so they could >> connect >> their PC to my laptop, get an IP, and run the web apps on their PC. All >> this >> on a 150 Mhz laptop with 56 Mb of ram and a 6 Gb hard drive. And it >> wasn't >> bad in terms of speed. The web pages took a little while to load, 2 or 3 >> seconds, but that was easily explained. >> >> I thought it was a very impressive show but even so, I was looking for >> a >> job for about a year. I was already working at the University of >> Wisconsin >> at the time but I was warned I might be a layoff victim. So I had time to >> look for another job. I think though, that the laptop was a big part of >> why >> I ended up here at the University of Wisconsin, Math Department. They >> seemed very interested in what I had done with it. >> >> I guess I can remove all that stuff now. I've been here for 2 years as of >> yesterday. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGESA37s9z/XlyUyARAjCiAJ0ewrpnsv7372vE+vj4bGJHw9Eg1ACggtuI > 1mH/vvKgJq2i7m+r4vPflRQ= > =w91i > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) ` OT: a speakup success story (Re: couple linux(deb) questions) John Heim ` Gregory Nowak @ ` C.M. Brannon 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: C.M. Brannon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup "John Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> writes: >> Hmm, just wondering, why install apache on a laptop? Are you using it >> as a server? That seems like a limit on a laptop's potential to me, > > I took it to job interviews and used it to show off my web apps. I do this sort of thing all the time, in a classroom setting. Our database design course has a strong focus on database-driven web programming in JSP & Java. The class uses Oracle for the database system. So I run Apache Tomcat and Oracle's sqlplus client on my laptop. My prof can see that my web programs are doing what they're supposed to do. My sighted peers are using JDeveloper, which isn't a very practical development environment for a blind person. -- Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` John Heim ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Doug Smith 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Will do, thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Re: couple linux(deb) questions > I hate it when people don't answer the question actually asked but based on > this question and the one you asked about finding duplicate files, I'm going > to guess you're trying to free up some disk space. Well, looking for > orphaned libs is probably a waste of time. You'll never free up much space > that way. > > You might be able to do something with the tools for finding orphaned > packages. That would allow you to remove whole apps rather than just the > libs they may use. But even that probably won't get you much. > > If you're running out of space, you should look in your home directories. > Use the du command to see where most of it is going. ie: > > $ du -sh * > > I have a laptop with a 6 Gb drive and it is only 30% full. And I have > apache, mysql, gcc, perl, and a bunch of other tools installed. I've always > just installed anything I wanted. Never had any problems with disk space. > The only thing is I don't have X installed. But even so, your os just > doesn't take up that much space. And the libs are only a small part of the > os. I would forget about looking to free up space by removing libs. You're > more likely to trash something important than you are to free up > significant space. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <compgeek13@gmail.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:28 PM > Subject: couple linux(deb) questions > > > > Hello list, > > I've got a couple questions. > > First, is there a way to find out what libs are installed, but aren't > > being depended on? I know I have extra packages, and don't want to keep > > them if I don't meed them, e.g libraries mainly. > > Second, is there a way to get all my manpages installed? I used to be able > > to do man cfunction, and I could see something, now I don't get anything. > > I believe I'm missing a package, just not sure which. > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: couple linux(deb) questions ` John Heim ` Gregory Nowak ` couple linux(deb) questions Littlefield, Tyler @ ` Doug Smith 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Doug Smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Ok, time to sound off on this freeing up of disk space issue. Here's a true story. When I first got this machine, it only had a 1.28 gig drive on it. I had it most of the way full of these exotic programs I liked, but I had plenty of space to continue installing almost anything I wanted. Granted, now, this was with RH 6.2, and it would have never worked on that drive with what I'm using now, but I learned about those libraries the hard way. One day, I found a bunch of x-windows stuff and gnome stuff on there. Well, nuke, I thought, just let's dump all this graphical crap and free up a bunch more space. Well, I freed it up, then I turned this thing off. I think there was a storm coming, or, just because I turn my equipment off when I am not using it. What do you think happened when I turned it back on? Nuke was the word. I had totally busted my system. It would not boot, and I had no hardware speech, no speakup, no nothing to get me back up. I couldn't use the computer again for several days until a sighted friend could come out here and totally re-install the os. Now, go ahead and remove all those libraries, just don't say I didn't warn you, and that the other person didn't warn you. When you have to have a sighted friend come out there and re-install, or if you have to wait for several days to get or borrow a hardware synthesizer, see if it was worth it to find a few meg somewhere. Hope this helps. -- Doug Smith: C.S.F.C. Computer Scientist For CHRIST ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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