Making progress

Making progress

[Glenn Ervin]

Hello group,
I downloaded zipslack.zip.
I have a removable drive D:, and I unzipped it into that drive.
I have downloaded many speakup files and I have put them into the d:\linux
directory.
This harddrive is a little over 200MB.
I am using a DECtalk express on Comm1.
I also edited the linux.bat file to have one of the lines to read:
d:\linux\loadlin
I rebooted into DOS and ran linux.bat and it ran for a few seconds, and it
may have been ready to work, but I could not know what was on the screen.
Question:
How do I tell it to recognize the DECtalk on Com1?
I hope I do not have to use sighted assistance to get this going.
I look forward to any input.
Thanks.


Sincerely,
O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
Northeast Nebraska
gervin@kdsi.net
or My Work e-mail:
gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us

Re: Making progress

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, if you have an old dos screen reader such as Jaws For Dos or Vocal Eyes
you can load that before running loadlin and that usually worked in getting
error messages
spoken. However, if it is a kernel panic error of some kind or an error
encountered after your machine loads Linux you will need to get those errors
with sited assistance assuming that Speakup hasn't loaded.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Ervin" <gervin@kdsi.net>
To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:14 AM
Subject: Making progress


> Hello group,
> I downloaded zipslack.zip.
> I have a removable drive D:, and I unzipped it into that drive.
> I have downloaded many speakup files and I have put them into the d:\linux
> directory.
> This harddrive is a little over 200MB.
> I am using a DECtalk express on Comm1.
> I also edited the linux.bat file to have one of the lines to read:
> d:\linux\loadlin
> I rebooted into DOS and ran linux.bat and it ran for a few seconds, and it
> may have been ready to work, but I could not know what was on the screen.
> Question:
> How do I tell it to recognize the DECtalk on Com1?
> I hope I do not have to use sighted assistance to get this going.
> I look forward to any input.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> gervin@kdsi.net
> or My Work e-mail:
> gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Making progress

[Angelo Sonnesso]

where did you find those files?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <tward@bright.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Making progress


> Hi, if you have an old dos screen reader such as Jaws For Dos or Vocal
Eyes
> you can load that before running loadlin and that usually worked in
getting
> error messages
> spoken. However, if it is a kernel panic error of some kind or an error
> encountered after your machine loads Linux you will need to get those
errors
> with sited assistance assuming that Speakup hasn't loaded.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Ervin" <gervin@kdsi.net>
> To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:14 AM
> Subject: Making progress
>
>
> > Hello group,
> > I downloaded zipslack.zip.
> > I have a removable drive D:, and I unzipped it into that drive.
> > I have downloaded many speakup files and I have put them into the
d:\linux
> > directory.
> > This harddrive is a little over 200MB.
> > I am using a DECtalk express on Comm1.
> > I also edited the linux.bat file to have one of the lines to read:
> > d:\linux\loadlin
> > I rebooted into DOS and ran linux.bat and it ran for a few seconds, and
it
> > may have been ready to work, but I could not know what was on the
screen.
> > Question:
> > How do I tell it to recognize the DECtalk on Com1?
> > I hope I do not have to use sighted assistance to get this going.
> > I look forward to any input.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> > Northeast Nebraska
> > gervin@kdsi.net
> > or My Work e-mail:
> > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Making progress

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, I think freedom scientific still has a copy of the Jaws for Dos 
shareware on their site. If not I'll send you a copy of the shareware 
version, and it might help solve the zipspeak problem.
http://www.freedomscientific.com
I used it quite a bit myself in looking for errors in loadlin.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

> where did you find those files?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Ward" <tward@bright.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Making progress
> 
> 
> > Hi, if you have an old dos screen reader such as Jaws For Dos or Vocal
> Eyes
> > you can load that before running loadlin and that usually worked in
> getting
> > error messages
> > spoken. However, if it is a kernel panic error of some kind or an error
> > encountered after your machine loads Linux you will need to get those
> errors
> > with sited assistance assuming that Speakup hasn't loaded.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Glenn Ervin" <gervin@kdsi.net>
> > To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:14 AM
> > Subject: Making progress
> >
> >
> > > Hello group,
> > > I downloaded zipslack.zip.
> > > I have a removable drive D:, and I unzipped it into that drive.
> > > I have downloaded many speakup files and I have put them into the
> d:\linux
> > > directory.
> > > This harddrive is a little over 200MB.
> > > I am using a DECtalk express on Comm1.
> > > I also edited the linux.bat file to have one of the lines to read:
> > > d:\linux\loadlin
> > > I rebooted into DOS and ran linux.bat and it ran for a few seconds, and
> it
> > > may have been ready to work, but I could not know what was on the
> screen.
> > > Question:
> > > How do I tell it to recognize the DECtalk on Com1?
> > > I hope I do not have to use sighted assistance to get this going.
> > > I look forward to any input.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> > > Northeast Nebraska
> > > gervin@kdsi.net
> > > or My Work e-mail:
> > > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

RE: Making progress

[Georgina]

Hi

Its not clear what version of ZipSpeak your using?  What Speakup files did
you download and put in your d:\Linux directory?  If your batch file only
contains the lines you disclosed then it will need a little more than that
to work.

Surely you'll need something like:

loadlin dectlk root=/dev/hdb1 ro

Give us more info and we'll get you up and running.

Gena
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Angelo Sonnesso
Sent: 20 November 2001 04:25
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Making progress


where did you find those files?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <tward@bright.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Making progress


> Hi, if you have an old dos screen reader such as Jaws For Dos or Vocal
Eyes
> you can load that before running loadlin and that usually worked in
getting
> error messages
> spoken. However, if it is a kernel panic error of some kind or an error
> encountered after your machine loads Linux you will need to get those
errors
> with sited assistance assuming that Speakup hasn't loaded.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Ervin" <gervin@kdsi.net>
> To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:14 AM
> Subject: Making progress
>
>
> > Hello group,
> > I downloaded zipslack.zip.
> > I have a removable drive D:, and I unzipped it into that drive.
> > I have downloaded many speakup files and I have put them into the
d:\linux
> > directory.
> > This harddrive is a little over 200MB.
> > I am using a DECtalk express on Comm1.
> > I also edited the linux.bat file to have one of the lines to read:
> > d:\linux\loadlin
> > I rebooted into DOS and ran linux.bat and it ran for a few seconds, and
it
> > may have been ready to work, but I could not know what was on the
screen.
> > Question:
> > How do I tell it to recognize the DECtalk on Com1?
> > I hope I do not have to use sighted assistance to get this going.
> > I look forward to any input.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV
> > Northeast Nebraska
> > gervin@kdsi.net
> > or My Work e-mail:
> > gervin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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playing audio cds

[randy turner]

hi all,
is the file system type the same for playing 
audio cds as it is for computer file related cds?

i can mount my slackware cd but not an audio cd.
i am sure that i am doing a lot of guessing here about all of this.
i have tried to use workbone but i am getting input errors 
thanks in advance.
randy

Re: playing audio cds

[Adam Myrow]

You don't need to mount audio CDs to play them.  In fact, I don't think
there is any way to mount them.  Just use a tool like workbone that comes
with Slackware, or any other CD player.  You may have to set the device
that contains your CDROM (like /dev/hdc) to 666 permissions, but it
depends on the player, I think.  Like I said, no need to mount audio CDs.
Hope that helps.

Re: playing audio cds

[randy turner]

hi adam and all,
i checked all of my levels in alsamixer and they all are 100%
workbone acts like it is playing the cd
it counts up the tracks
but there is no audio,
i wonder if my cdrom that is built in to this computer is only a cdrom for
computer files?
are there any test that i can do to figure out what my problem is?
thanks in advance
randy

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Adam Myrow wrote:

> You don't need to mount audio CDs to play them.  In fact, I don't think
> there is any way to mount them.  Just use a tool like workbone that comes
> with Slackware, or any other CD player.  You may have to set the device
> that contains your CDROM (like /dev/hdc) to 666 permissions, but it
> depends on the player, I think.  Like I said, no need to mount audio CDs.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

Re: playing audio cds

[randy turner]

hi gregory,
well that explanes why it would not mount! lol!
i am very green to playing audio cds i never have got any to play on this
computer
workbone acts like it is counting up 
but i am not getting any audio.
in alsamixer i set everything to 100%
as the cd was playing i went in to alsamixer and adjusted all of the
levels but still could not get any audio.
also i have the program cdparanoia,
it reports that it can't read the cedrom for some reason.
so is there anyway of checking for problems that you know of?
thanks in advance
randy



On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> No, audio and computer cds are not the same.
> Files reside on the iso filesystem.
> Audio cds are just that.
> They're raw audio with some data burned on to a cd, and they're not on a filesystem.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:46:51AM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > hi all,
> > is the file system type the same for playing 
> > audio cds as it is for computer file related cds?
> > 
> > i can mount my slackware cd but not an audio cd.
> > i am sure that i am doing a lot of guessing here about all of this.
> > i have tried to use workbone but i am getting input errors 
> > thanks in advance.
> > randy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

Re: playing audio cds

[Gregory Nowak]

No, audio and computer cds are not the same.
Files reside on the iso filesystem.
Audio cds are just that.
They're raw audio with some data burned on to a cd, and they're not on a filesystem.
Greg


On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:46:51AM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> 
> 
> hi all,
> is the file system type the same for playing 
> audio cds as it is for computer file related cds?
> 
> i can mount my slackware cd but not an audio cd.
> i am sure that i am doing a lot of guessing here about all of this.
> i have tried to use workbone but i am getting input errors 
> thanks in advance.
> randy
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: playing audio cds

[randy turner]

yep all of them are at 100%
it might be a driver, i am checking for a driver i might have left out.
thanks
randy


On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Also, did you unmute all your sound card's channels?
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 03:43:10PM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> > 
> > hi gregory,
> > well that explanes why it would not mount! lol!
> > i am very green to playing audio cds i never have got any to play on this
> > computer
> > workbone acts like it is counting up 
> > but i am not getting any audio.
> > in alsamixer i set everything to 100%
> > as the cd was playing i went in to alsamixer and adjusted all of the
> > levels but still could not get any audio.
> > also i have the program cdparanoia,
> > it reports that it can't read the cedrom for some reason.
> > so is there anyway of checking for problems that you know of?
> > thanks in advance
> > randy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > 
> > > No, audio and computer cds are not the same.
> > > Files reside on the iso filesystem.
> > > Audio cds are just that.
> > > They're raw audio with some data burned on to a cd, and they're not on a filesystem.
> > > Greg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:46:51AM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > hi all,
> > > > is the file system type the same for playing 
> > > > audio cds as it is for computer file related cds?
> > > > 
> > > > i can mount my slackware cd but not an audio cd.
> > > > i am sure that i am doing a lot of guessing here about all of this.
> > > > i have tried to use workbone but i am getting input errors 
> > > > thanks in advance.
> > > > randy
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

Re: playing audio cds

[randy turner]

hi greg,
nop now that i remember my sound card is not connected to my cd player
guess that explanes it!
thanks
randy


On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Maybe your cd-rom drive is not internally connected to your sound card?
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 03:35:55PM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > hi adam and all,
> > i checked all of my levels in alsamixer and they all are 100%
> > workbone acts like it is playing the cd
> > it counts up the tracks
> > but there is no audio,
> > i wonder if my cdrom that is built in to this computer is only a cdrom for
> > computer files?
> > are there any test that i can do to figure out what my problem is?
> > thanks in advance
> > randy
> > 
> > On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Adam Myrow wrote:
> > 
> > > You don't need to mount audio CDs to play them.  In fact, I don't think
> > > there is any way to mount them.  Just use a tool like workbone that comes
> > > with Slackware, or any other CD player.  You may have to set the device
> > > that contains your CDROM (like /dev/hdc) to 666 permissions, but it
> > > depends on the player, I think.  Like I said, no need to mount audio CDs.
> > > Hope that helps.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

Re: playing audio cds

[Gregory Nowak]

Maybe your cd-rom drive is not internally connected to your sound card?
Greg


On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 03:35:55PM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> 
> 
> hi adam and all,
> i checked all of my levels in alsamixer and they all are 100%
> workbone acts like it is playing the cd
> it counts up the tracks
> but there is no audio,
> i wonder if my cdrom that is built in to this computer is only a cdrom for
> computer files?
> are there any test that i can do to figure out what my problem is?
> thanks in advance
> randy
> 
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Adam Myrow wrote:
> 
> > You don't need to mount audio CDs to play them.  In fact, I don't think
> > there is any way to mount them.  Just use a tool like workbone that comes
> > with Slackware, or any other CD player.  You may have to set the device
> > that contains your CDROM (like /dev/hdc) to 666 permissions, but it
> > depends on the player, I think.  Like I said, no need to mount audio CDs.
> > Hope that helps.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: playing audio cds

[Gregory Nowak]

Also, did you unmute all your sound card's channels?
Greg


On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 03:43:10PM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> 
> hi gregory,
> well that explanes why it would not mount! lol!
> i am very green to playing audio cds i never have got any to play on this
> computer
> workbone acts like it is counting up 
> but i am not getting any audio.
> in alsamixer i set everything to 100%
> as the cd was playing i went in to alsamixer and adjusted all of the
> levels but still could not get any audio.
> also i have the program cdparanoia,
> it reports that it can't read the cedrom for some reason.
> so is there anyway of checking for problems that you know of?
> thanks in advance
> randy
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> 
> > No, audio and computer cds are not the same.
> > Files reside on the iso filesystem.
> > Audio cds are just that.
> > They're raw audio with some data burned on to a cd, and they're not on a filesystem.
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:46:51AM +0000, randy turner wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > hi all,
> > > is the file system type the same for playing 
> > > audio cds as it is for computer file related cds?
> > > 
> > > i can mount my slackware cd but not an audio cd.
> > > i am sure that i am doing a lot of guessing here about all of this.
> > > i have tried to use workbone but i am getting input errors 
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > randy
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: playing audio cds

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, well, you don't need to mount audio cd's to play them. The cd player
will mount them itself.
You may have to check a couple of things here to se why cd's are not
playing. First,c check all your mixer settings and test your sound card with
a wav file, mp3,or something like that.
Secondly, check to make sure your cdrom is connected to your sound card by a
audio cable.  If this cable is loose or disconnected it will be the reason
for no sound.
Then, if all is well start workbone and I believe you would
press the 6 or 7 number key to start playing a cd.


number 6 or the number 7 x