* Installing speakup with software speech @ Sina Bahram ` Jacob Schmude 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi guys, Is it possible to do the whole deal, from start to finish using software speech? So where I specify the synth, can I specify a software synth and do the install of Fedora 2? Then boot up with Speakup 1.5, then run a checkout script to get the latest speakup? I know I probably skipped about 20 steps in there...but is this general plan workable? Take care, Sina No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing speakup with software speech Installing speakup with software speech Sina Bahram @ ` Jacob Schmude ` Jayson Smith ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Jacob Schmude @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Do you mean installing FC2 with software speech? If so, right now you can't. I'm not sure how feasible this would be, either. I don't see much problem getting things like speech dispatcher and flite onto the CD, but I'm not sure how early FC2 detects the soundcard. I know it detects the monitor and video card right at the beginning (figures, right?) but I'm not sure where sound is activated. I've been thinking about this lately myself, as it sure would help people with no serial ports. FC2 may be the only distro it is feasible with at all, since distros like slackware don't even include sound modules on their installation disks--not sure about debian or gentoo, though. HTH P.S. That isn't speakup 1.5 in FC2--it's a fairly new CVS speakup. I think the only distro to still include speakup 1.5 is slackware. On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Sina Bahram wrote: SB> Hi guys, SB> SB> Is it possible to do the whole deal, from start to finish using software SB> speech? So where I specify the synth, can I specify a software synth and do SB> the install of Fedora 2? Then boot up with Speakup 1.5, then run a checkout SB> script to get the latest speakup? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing speakup with software speech ` Jacob Schmude @ ` Jayson Smith ` Sina Bahram 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Jayson Smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >From what I understand from the handbook, Gentoo's kernels include support for just about every possible type of hardware, and Gentoo runs a hardware detection process as the CD boots up. However, that still might not detect and activate the sound card in time for it to do Speakup any good. Jayson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Schmude" <jschmude@adelphia.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:49 PM Subject: Re: Installing speakup with software speech > Hi > Do you mean installing FC2 with software speech? If so, right now > you can't. I'm not sure how feasible this would be, either. I don't see > much problem getting things like speech dispatcher and flite onto the CD, > but I'm not sure how early FC2 detects the soundcard. I know it detects > the monitor and video card right at the beginning (figures, right?) but > I'm not sure where sound is activated. I've been thinking about this > lately myself, as it sure would help people with no serial ports. FC2 may > be the only distro it is feasible with at all, since distros like > slackware don't even include sound modules on their installation > disks--not sure about debian or gentoo, though. > HTH > P.S. That isn't speakup 1.5 in FC2--it's a fairly new CVS speakup. I think > the only distro to still include speakup 1.5 is slackware. > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Sina Bahram wrote: > > SB> Hi guys, > SB> > SB> Is it possible to do the whole deal, from start to finish using software > SB> speech? So where I specify the synth, can I specify a software synth and do > SB> the install of Fedora 2? Then boot up with Speakup 1.5, then run a checkout > SB> script to get the latest speakup? > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing speakup with software speech ` Jacob Schmude ` Jayson Smith @ ` Sina Bahram ` Gregory Nowak ` Jacob Schmude 1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi Jacob, Thanks for the points. So I'm stuck installing it either with visual assistance or via telnet/ssh and then getting software speech via including them as modules? I suppose I could install via telnet or ssh...i've just never done that before. But there's no chance of hardware speech; however, I really want to use Speakup. Take care, Sina No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Jacob Schmude Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:50 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Installing speakup with software speech Hi Do you mean installing FC2 with software speech? If so, right now you can't. I'm not sure how feasible this would be, either. I don't see much problem getting things like speech dispatcher and flite onto the CD, but I'm not sure how early FC2 detects the soundcard. I know it detects the monitor and video card right at the beginning (figures, right?) but I'm not sure where sound is activated. I've been thinking about this lately myself, as it sure would help people with no serial ports. FC2 may be the only distro it is feasible with at all, since distros like slackware don't even include sound modules on their installation disks--not sure about debian or gentoo, though. HTH P.S. That isn't speakup 1.5 in FC2--it's a fairly new CVS speakup. I think the only distro to still include speakup 1.5 is slackware. On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Sina Bahram wrote: SB> Hi guys, SB> SB> Is it possible to do the whole deal, from start to finish using SB> software speech? So where I specify the synth, can I specify a SB> software synth and do the install of Fedora 2? Then boot up with SB> Speakup 1.5, then run a checkout script to get the latest speakup? _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing speakup with software speech ` Sina Bahram @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Sina Bahram ` Jacob Schmude 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you have an extra PC, and a serial cable, you should also be able to install via a serial console. Greg On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 12:18:48AM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote: > Hi Jacob, > > Thanks for the points. So I'm stuck installing it either with visual > assistance or via telnet/ssh and then getting software speech via including > them as modules? > > I suppose I could install via telnet or ssh...i've just never done that > before. But there's no chance of hardware speech; however, I really want to > use Speakup. > > Take care, > Sina > > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of > electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA18W/7s9z/XlyUyARAtCmAKC62KImde+1KJUxu5uww83KGzoIhwCeLy8b M5yi/rM1tfN7WohyLsI5sWQ= =yEai -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing speakup with software speech ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' I could drag that up...but if I'm going to use an extra PC, I'll just do it via ssh or telnet...i really want to do software speech install, if at all possible though. Take care, Sina No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:38 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Installing speakup with software speech -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you have an extra PC, and a serial cable, you should also be able to install via a serial console. Greg On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 12:18:48AM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote: > Hi Jacob, > > Thanks for the points. So I'm stuck installing it either with visual > assistance or via telnet/ssh and then getting software speech via > including them as modules? > > I suppose I could install via telnet or ssh...i've just never done > that before. But there's no chance of hardware speech; however, I > really want to use Speakup. > > Take care, > Sina > > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA18W/7s9z/XlyUyARAtCmAKC62KImde+1KJUxu5uww83KGzoIhwCeLy8b M5yi/rM1tfN7WohyLsI5sWQ= =yEai -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing speakup with software speech ` Sina Bahram ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Jacob Schmude ` Sina Bahram ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Jacob Schmude @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Telnet's your answer then. It's a real pain to navigate with any windows telnet client IMHO, but if you use the standard linux telnet it reads perfectly. Make sure your ISOs are relatively recent (June 7, I believe) since telnet was fixed in those. Start the install with: text telnet at the boot: prompt. If you don't know what IP you'll be given, but you know an IP that's free, use: text telnet ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Of course, put the actual IP numbers in there. Once the CD drive starts spinning, telnet into the IP address. If you use linux telnet, you won't even know the difference as far as the speaking install goes. In fact, when I did it, once I ejected the wrong CDrom drive when it told me to change disks. The only problem is... telnet server may not be installed. This means that once you install and reboot, you may not be able to get back in. For this reason I'd recommend putting the telnet-server RPM on a floppy and installing it as the installation ends. Also, you'll have to customize the firewall during installation and check the box next to telnet, since you'll have to get back in once installation is finished. To do this, when the installer prompts you to reboot, press ctrl+z instead. Now, chroot into your new installation like so: chroot /mnt/sysimage Now mount that floppy: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy or in the case of a USB floppy: mount /dev/sda /mnt/floppy create /mnt/floppy if it says the mount point isn't valid. Now install the telnet-server RPM. OK, one more thing to do, remove the firstboot RPM: rpm -e firstboot Some people like to just turn it off but I don't see any reason to have it lying around. Now, exit the chroot shell. Hold on, two more files to edit: As the editor, use "pico". This is not pico, it launches the joe editor in pico mode--nano won't work under telnet and vi doesn't track correctly. First, edit: /mnt/sysimage/etc/inittab This is standard procedure, change the default runlevel to 3. There's a line reading: id:5:initdefault: change that 5 to a 3. ctrl+x to exit and save. NOw, edit: /mnt/sysimage/etc/xinetd.d/telnet You'll see a line in there that says: disable = yes change that to: disable = no This ensures that you can telnet into your newly installed system and either get speech running or set up SSH for a more secure connection. Once speech is set up, I highly recommend closing the telnet service unless you're going to be using it for some reason. Well, hope this helps you out. Note that the speakup-provided kernels already have the sftsyn module ready to be modprobed. On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Sina Bahram wrote: SB> Hi Jacob, SB> SB> Thanks for the points. So I'm stuck installing it either with visual SB> assistance or via telnet/ssh and then getting software speech via including SB> them as modules? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing speakup with software speech ` Jacob Schmude @ ` Sina Bahram ` is switching between synths posible? Willem van der Walt<willem@top.health.gov.za> ` Installing speakup with software speech Jacob Schmude ` Sergei Fleytin ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 2 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Ok, that's awesome, since I'm a total newbie at this...that was a great explination. I will try to find some time to do it, and let you know. I unfortunately will be using a Windows Telnet client....*sigh* but oh well...i'll play with it. Now, I thought that pico didn't come with Fedora, so what was that last stuff? What editor would I be using then? Thanks for all this great info. Take care, Sina No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Jacob Schmude Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:39 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: Installing speakup with software speech Hi Telnet's your answer then. It's a real pain to navigate with any windows telnet client IMHO, but if you use the standard linux telnet it reads perfectly. Make sure your ISOs are relatively recent (June 7, I believe) since telnet was fixed in those. Start the install with: text telnet at the boot: prompt. If you don't know what IP you'll be given, but you know an IP that's free, use: text telnet ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Of course, put the actual IP numbers in there. Once the CD drive starts spinning, telnet into the IP address. If you use linux telnet, you won't even know the difference as far as the speaking install goes. In fact, when I did it, once I ejected the wrong CDrom drive when it told me to change disks. The only problem is... telnet server may not be installed. This means that once you install and reboot, you may not be able to get back in. For this reason I'd recommend putting the telnet-server RPM on a floppy and installing it as the installation ends. Also, you'll have to customize the firewall during installation and check the box next to telnet, since you'll have to get back in once installation is finished. To do this, when the installer prompts you to reboot, press ctrl+z instead. Now, chroot into your new installation like so: chroot /mnt/sysimage Now mount that floppy: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy or in the case of a USB floppy: mount /dev/sda /mnt/floppy create /mnt/floppy if it says the mount point isn't valid. Now install the telnet-server RPM. OK, one more thing to do, remove the firstboot RPM: rpm -e firstboot Some people like to just turn it off but I don't see any reason to have it lying around. Now, exit the chroot shell. Hold on, two more files to edit: As the editor, use "pico". This is not pico, it launches the joe editor in pico mode--nano won't work under telnet and vi doesn't track correctly. First, edit: /mnt/sysimage/etc/inittab This is standard procedure, change the default runlevel to 3. There's a line reading: id:5:initdefault: change that 5 to a 3. ctrl+x to exit and save. NOw, edit: /mnt/sysimage/etc/xinetd.d/telnet You'll see a line in there that says: disable = yes change that to: disable = no This ensures that you can telnet into your newly installed system and either get speech running or set up SSH for a more secure connection. Once speech is set up, I highly recommend closing the telnet service unless you're going to be using it for some reason. Well, hope this helps you out. Note that the speakup-provided kernels already have the sftsyn module ready to be modprobed. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* is switching between synths posible? ` Sina Bahram @ ` Willem van der Walt<willem@top.health.gov.za> ` Installing speakup with software speech Jacob Schmude 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Willem van der Walt<willem@top.health.gov.za> @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It looks like the software speech is included in the fedora core 2 modified version.Is there a way to switch between the hardware speech and the software speech when the hw speech is already running? TIA Willem ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing speakup with software speech ` Sina Bahram ` is switching between synths posible? Willem van der Walt<willem@top.health.gov.za> @ ` Jacob Schmude ` Sina Bahram 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Jacob Schmude @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi The editor is actually an editor called "joe". However, joe has several emulation modes, and for whatever reason they included it, along with its pico emulation mode on the installation cd. So no, it isn't actually pico, it will, however, respond to almost all of pico's commands. I prefer nano, but nano won't work under telnet on the installation CD, since the terminals aren't set up. Once you get the system installed you can use whatever editor you want when you telnet back in, since your terminals will havve been installed and the terminfo database will have been setup. HTH On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Sina Bahram wrote: SB> Ok, that's awesome, since I'm a total newbie at this...that was a great SB> explination. I will try to find some time to do it, and let you know. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing speakup with software speech ` Installing speakup with software speech Jacob Schmude @ ` Sina Bahram 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Thanks for the info. Take care, Sina No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Jacob Schmude Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 9:52 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: Installing speakup with software speech Hi The editor is actually an editor called "joe". However, joe has several emulation modes, and for whatever reason they included it, along with its pico emulation mode on the installation cd. So no, it isn't actually pico, it will, however, respond to almost all of pico's commands. I prefer nano, but nano won't work under telnet on the installation CD, since the terminals aren't set up. Once you get the system installed you can use whatever editor you want when you telnet back in, since your terminals will havve been installed and the terminfo database will have been setup. HTH On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Sina Bahram wrote: SB> Ok, that's awesome, since I'm a total newbie at this...that was a SB> great explination. I will try to find some time to do it, and let SB> you know. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing speakup with software speech ` Jacob Schmude ` Sina Bahram @ ` Sergei Fleytin ` Gregory Nowak ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Sergei Fleytin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello Jacob and others, >>>>> "JS" == Jacob Schmude <jschmude@adelphia.net> writes: JS> Hi Telnet's your answer then. I have one, probably stupid question. Since i have some experience with installing Linux via serial connection, i wonder if a telnet session could be set up via serial port? For me it is very important because i have to use windows terminal emulators for installing Linux since minicom don't work well for me in this area. So any advice would be of great help. Take note that i have no experience with telnet at all so i would appreciate a detailled answers, may be off list. With best regards, Sergei. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing speakup with software speech ` Sergei Fleytin @ ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 01:28:54PM +0400, Sergei Fleytin wrote: > i wonder if a telnet > session could be set up via serial port? I suppose it would be possible, if the installation cd includes pppd. With a lot of messing around, you could use ppp to form a network interface via a serial port. I wouldn't recommend this process for a newby though. However, if you're still interested, check out the pppd howto on tldp.org. Greg - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA2FoM7s9z/XlyUyARAsyKAJ4sYkftStQkha55dDAM5oauEBBeHQCfYx1Q YRdW7PM3my6oGA4xVnv/xRM= =Z5X8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing speakup with software speech ` Jacob Schmude ` Sina Bahram ` Sergei Fleytin @ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, Jacob, Industrial strength cool!!! It never occurred to me to press ^Z at the end of a telnet installation. I can't wait to try it out! BTW, something isn't kosher with the timezone displayed on your messages. It says Eastern Standard Time, which would be OK if you were in some parts of Indiana, but the offset is -400 which would be for Eastern Daylight Time. -- Bill in Denver ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Installing speakup with software speech @ Dave 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Dave @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello, I'm new to the list but am not a new Linux user. I'm gathering the components i need to do a speakup install with software speech. I'm wondering what synth gives the best responsiveness and has the highest speech quality? I'm most use to Dectalk and Eloquence synths on the windows platform. I've heard of Festival and flite but don't know how they sound. Espeak i've heard i think with grml? I can't get use to it kind of hard to follow. If anyone has any speech samples or recommendations i'd love to hear them. Thanks. Dave. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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