re: 4dos was automating bookshare

re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Jude DaShiell]

The last free version of jaws for dos if memory serves was 2.08 and is 
still available for download so far as I know.  You need to use the ftp 
site and search for a dos directory and it's in there you'll find that 
package.  It's called jdosfree.zip if memory serves too.

Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[John McCann]

Jude wrote:

"The last free version of jaws for dos if memory serves was 2.08 and is 
still available for download so far as I know."

Actually, 2.31, june 1, 1994. That's what I got when I downloaded 
jdosfree.zip from the JAWS site last june.

John

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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:49 PM
Subject: re: 4dos was automating bookshare


> The last free version of jaws for dos if memory serves was 2.08 and is
> still available for download so far as I know.  You need to use the ftp
> site and search for a dos directory and it's in there you'll find that
> package.  It's called jdosfree.zip if memory serves too.
>
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Tony Baechler]

Hi,

Since a few of you seem to have this, would someone please check the 
license and see if it can be put up on my demos site?  I'm afraid that 
FS will kill it one of these days and it'll disappear just like so much 
else.  I would like to save it for historical reasons if nothing else 
but it could be useful for people needing a free DOS screen reader.  The 
same goes for Provox and similar.

John McCann wrote:
> Actually, 2.31, june 1, 1994. That's what I got when I downloaded 
> jdosfree.zip from the JAWS site last june.
>   

Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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Tony,

Provox is already freely available on my web site, but if you would
like to copy it to your new site, help yourself. It has not been
maintained for quite a few years, but there seems to be continued
interest in its availability, and perhaps a little rejuvenation might
not be a bad idea. I am especially interested in the possibility of
supporting espeak in DOS with provox, but don't hold your breath on
that one.

Chuck

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:29:20AM -0800, Tony Baechler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since a few of you seem to have this, would someone please check the 
> license and see if it can be put up on my demos site?  I'm afraid that 
> FS will kill it one of these days and it'll disappear just like so much 
> else.  I would like to save it for historical reasons if nothing else 
> but it could be useful for people needing a free DOS screen reader.  The 
> same goes for Provox and similar.
> 
> John McCann wrote:
> > Actually, 2.31, june 1, 1994. That's what I got when I downloaded 
> > jdosfree.zip from the JAWS site last june.
> >   
> 
> 
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Tony Baechler]

Hi,

Yes, I knew it was freely available but didn't know where.  It is now 
also available at http://baechler.net/demos/  Thanks for the url.  I 
didn't know where your site was nowadays.

Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> Provox is already freely available on my web site, but if you would
> like to copy it to your new site, help yourself. It has not been
> maintained for quite a few years, but there seems to be continued
> interest in its availability, and perhaps a little rejuvenation might
> not be a bad idea. I am especially interested in the possibility of
> supporting espeak in DOS with provox, but don't hold your breath on
> that one.
>   

Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Alex Snow]

Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with 
the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not 
finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22 
on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used 
dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.

-- 
Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff 
on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
	-- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on linux.cs.helsinki.fi

Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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Sorry, not provox.


On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:28:40AM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with 
> the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not 
> finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22 
> on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used 
> dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
> 
> -- 
> Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff 
> on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
> 	-- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on linux.cs.helsinki.fi
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Kerry Hoath]

transports will work in accent emulation mode and provox works with this.
set transport to 9600,n,7,1
and tell provox it talks to an accent sa.
Regards, Kerry.

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To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: 4dos was automating bookshare


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> Sorry, not provox.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:28:40AM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
>> Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with
>> the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not
>> finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22
>> on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used
>> dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
>>
>> -- 
>> Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff
>> on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
>> -- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on linux.cs.helsinki.fi
>>
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Allan Shaw]

If the DOS screen reader doesn't have an actual Transport driver you 
can always use the Accent and there is one other driver which will 
work but the name escapes me.

At 09:28 26/02/2008, you wrote:
>Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with
>the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not
>finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22
>on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used
>dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
>
>--
>Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff
>on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
>         -- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on 
> linux.cs.helsinki.fi
>
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[josh]

Hi,

the keynote external used to emulate an accent also. I wish humanware would 
release their old keynote and keysoft products from 14 or so years ago.

Josh

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----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: 4dos was automating bookshare


>
> If the DOS screen reader doesn't have an actual Transport driver you
> can always use the Accent and there is one other driver which will
> work but the name escapes me.
>
> At 09:28 26/02/2008, you wrote:
>>Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with
>>the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not
>>finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22
>>on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used
>>dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
>>
>>--
>>Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff
>>on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
>>         -- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on
>> linux.cs.helsinki.fi
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Speakup mailing list
>>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[W. Nick Dotson]

Plus, you've got Business Vision in the Transport that can be loaded up to any computer you hook it up to when you follow the commands from the transport 
step by step.  It was the predecessor of todays Windows screen readers that can be loaded from flash memory devices.

Nick

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:56:15 -0500, Allan Shaw wrote:


If the DOS screen reader doesn't have an actual Transport driver you 
can always use the Accent and there is one other driver which will 
work but the name escapes me.

At 09:28 26/02/2008, you wrote:
>Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with
>the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not
>finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22
>on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used
>dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.

>--
>Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff
>on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
>         -- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on 
> linux.cs.helsinki.fi

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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Alex Snow]

Ah, Thanks, didn't realise the transport had accent emulation.
On Tue, 
Feb 26, 2008 at 10:56:15AM -0500, Allan Shaw wrote:
> 
> If the DOS screen reader doesn't have an actual Transport driver you 
> can always use the Accent and there is one other driver which will 
> work but the name escapes me.
> 
> At 09:28 26/02/2008, you wrote:
> >Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with
> >the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not
> >finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22
> >on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used
> >dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
> >
> >--
> >Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff
> >on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
> >         -- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on 
> > linux.cs.helsinki.fi
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Nick Stockton]

the asap manual says it works with the transport.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: 4dos was automating bookshare


> Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with 
> the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not 
> finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22 
> on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used 
> dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
> 
> -- 
> Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff 
> on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
> -- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on linux.cs.helsinki.fi
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[josh]

vocal eyes also works with the transport.

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From: "Nick Stockton" <nstockton@gmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: 4dos was automating bookshare


> the asap manual says it works with the transport.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: 4dos was automating bookshare
>
>
>> Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with
>> the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not
>> finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22
>> on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used
>> dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
>>
>> -- 
>> Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff
>> on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
>> -- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on linux.cs.helsinki.fi
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[W. Nick Dotson]

You can run the Transport in Accent mode, and use it with any screen reader that supports that.  Also, if it was a 615, then, there should've been Business 
Vision with it.

Nick

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:28:40 -0500, Alex Snow wrote:

Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with 
the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not 
finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22 
on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used 
dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.

-- 
Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff 
on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
	-- Linus Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on linux.cs.helsinki.fi

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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Tony Baechler]

Hi,

I know Vocal-Eyes does but you'll be stuck with a demo or you can buy it 
for $250.  Other than that, I'm not sure but I think it used to be 
fairly popular so probably some other screen reader supports it.  I 
think Speakup does as well so you could run dosemu or similar.

Alex Snow wrote:
> Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with 
> the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not 
> finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22 
> on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used 
> dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
>   

Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Alex Snow]

Yeah it's supported by speakup...one of the main reasons I wanted to 
use a dos screenreader is I have a raid controler in one of my servers 
who's ACU is only available for dos.  I used to use it with jaws and 
my bns...but I don't have that anymore :-(
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 
09:10:41AM -0800, Tony Baechler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I know Vocal-Eyes does but you'll be stuck with a demo or you can buy it 
> for $250.  Other than that, I'm not sure but I think it used to be 
> fairly popular so probably some other screen reader supports it.  I 
> think Speakup does as well so you could run dosemu or similar.
> 
> Alex Snow wrote:
> > Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with 
> > the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not 
> > finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22 
> > on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used 
> > dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
> >   
> 
> 
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[josh]

Hi,

I found a registered version of asap on an ftp site. it includes the 
brand.com program that registers it.

Josh

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skype: jkenn337
msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@baechler.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: 4dos was automating bookshare


> Hi,
>
> I know Vocal-Eyes does but you'll be stuck with a demo or you can buy it
> for $250.  Other than that, I'm not sure but I think it used to be
> fairly popular so probably some other screen reader supports it.  I
> think Speakup does as well so you could run dosemu or similar.
>
> Alex Snow wrote:
>> Out of all the dos screenreaders available, is there any that work with
>> the artic transport? I remember looking at this a while ago and not
>> finding one...I recently dug up a 486dx2 and wanted to throw ms-dos 6.22
>> on it, but the only synth I have is a transport...The last time I used
>> dos I still had a bns, which was supported by jaws.
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[josh]

hi,
what is your website? and yes it would be so cool if ESpeak could work in 
dos.

email: jkenn337@gmail.com
skype: jkenn337
msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: 4dos was automating bookshare


> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> Tony,
>
> Provox is already freely available on my web site, but if you would
> like to copy it to your new site, help yourself. It has not been
> maintained for quite a few years, but there seems to be continued
> interest in its availability, and perhaps a little rejuvenation might
> not be a bad idea. I am especially interested in the possibility of
> supporting espeak in DOS with provox, but don't hold your breath on
> that one.
>
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:29:20AM -0800, Tony Baechler wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since a few of you seem to have this, would someone please check the
>> license and see if it can be put up on my demos site?  I'm afraid that
>> FS will kill it one of these days and it'll disappear just like so much
>> else.  I would like to save it for historical reasons if nothing else
>> but it could be useful for people needing a free DOS screen reader.  The
>> same goes for Provox and similar.
>>
>> John McCann wrote:
>> > Actually, 2.31, june 1, 1994. That's what I got when I downloaded
>> > jdosfree.zip from the JAWS site last june.
>> >
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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> -- Napoleon I
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Re: 4dos was automating bookshare

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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Keep reading <smile> it's just after the moon.

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:03:28AM -0500, josh wrote:
> hi,
> what is your website? and yes it would be so cool if ESpeak could work in 
> dos.

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The Moon is Waning Gibbous (73% of Full)

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         and sometimes I  Jabber. My JID is: chuckh@jabber.org
                                --------
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		-- Napoleon I
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