Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[jaffar]

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Hi Friends.  So I am back with the same problem.  With the help of my sighted nephew, I can confirm the installation of Fedora takes place when I boot from Disk 1 of the Fedora Distro.  Problem is, speakup or dectalk won't communicate that info to me.  My nephew saw two options onscreen when the install starts, press enter for the graphical installation or type linux for a textual installation.  I tried text speakup_synth=dectlk, but with no success.  Dectalk or speakup, i don't know which, just shuts up on me.  If the worse came to the worse, if I were to get my nephew's assistance during the install process, how then can i get speakup to work after the install stage?  Also, and I don't know if this would solve the problem, the com port 1 and the non-existent com port 3 is sharing the same IRq allocation.  Could it be that speakup, because of this shared resource allocation cannot determine exactly on which port my dectalk express is connected too?  All solutions to this on running puzzle is very much appreciated.  Cheers!

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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Glenn at home]

I would think that the com port thing would not be an issue unless you have 
something currently using that port, like a modem.
You could change that and it may solve your problem.
Glenn

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From: <jaffar@jeffstudio.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?


Hi Friends.  So I am back with the same problem.  With the help of my 
sighted nephew, I can confirm the installation of Fedora takes place when I 
boot from Disk 1 of the Fedora Distro.  Problem is, speakup or dectalk won't 
communicate that info to me.  My nephew saw two options onscreen when the 
install starts, press enter for the graphical installation or type linux for 
a textual installation.  I tried text speakup_synth=dectlk, but with no 
success.  Dectalk or speakup, i don't know which, just shuts up on me.  If 
the worse came to the worse, if I were to get my nephew's assistance during 
the install process, how then can i get speakup to work after the install 
stage?  Also, and I don't know if this would solve the problem, the com port 
1 and the non-existent com port 3 is sharing the same IRq allocation.  Could 
it be that speakup, because of this shared resource allocation cannot 
determine exactly on which port my dectalk express is connected too?  All 
solutions to this on running puzzle is very much appreciated.  Cheers!


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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Gregory Nowak]

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If you don't have a com3 in your system, then the IRQ conflict
shouldn't be an issue.

As for if you can get speakup running after the install, there is
always the software speech option, though that's not for a newby to
setup, especially having to rely on sighted help, or worse yet, on no
help at all.

Greg


On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 10:33:49PM +0800, jaffar@jeffstudio.net wrote:
> Hi Friends.  So I am back with the same problem.  With the help of my sighted nephew, I can confirm the installation of Fedora takes place when I boot from Disk 1 of the Fedora Distro.  Problem is, speakup or dectalk won't communicate that info to me.  My nephew saw two options onscreen when the install starts, press enter for the graphical installation or type linux for a textual installation.  I tried text speakup_synth=dectlk, but with no success.  Dectalk or speakup, i don't know which, just shuts up on me.  If the worse came to the worse, if I were to get my nephew's assistance during the install process, how then can i get speakup to work after the install stage?  Also, and I don't know if this would solve the problem, the com port 1 and the non-existent com port 3 is sharing the same IRq allocation.  Could it be that speakup, because of this shared resource allocation cannot determine exactly on which port my dectalk express is connected too?  All solutions to this on running puzzle is very much appreciated.  Cheers!
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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[David Bruzos]

Hi:
I had a similar problem with my LTLK.  The infrared port on my laptop
would cause problems with com1 and speakup would not speak.  I don't know
if they were sharing IRQ's, but disabling the infrared port fixed my
problem.  Have you tried going in your BIOS and looking around for the
com3 that you don't have?  Some times motherboards will not have an
external port for a device, but the chipset supports it anyway.  Maybe
just a quick look in your BIOS will fix your problem...

HTH

David B.


jaffar@jeffstudio.net said:
> Hi Friends.  So I am back with the same problem.  With the help of my
> sighted nephew, I can confirm the installation of Fedora takes place when
> I boot from Disk 1 of the Fedora Distro.  Problem is, speakup or dectalk
> won't communicate that info to me.  My nephew saw two options onscreen
> when the install starts, press enter for the graphical installation or
> type linux for a textual installation.  I tried text speakup_synth=dectlk,
> but with no success.  Dectalk or speakup, i don't know which, just shuts
> up on me.  If the worse came to the worse, if I were to get my nephew's
> assistance during the install process, how then can i get speakup to work
> after the install stage?  Also, and I don't know if this would solve the
> problem, the com port 1 and the non-existent com port 3 is sharing the
> same IRq allocation.  Could it be that speakup, because of this shared
> resource allocation cannot determine exactly on which port my dectalk
> express is connected too?  All solutions to this on running puzzle is very
> much appreciated.  Cheers!No virus found in this outgoing message.
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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Janina Sajka]

What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?

RE: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Chris Hofstader]

Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get the
memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one true
Operating Environment <smile>. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:54 AM
To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?

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RE: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Charles Hallenbeck]

He's right, Janina. We are all learning how to mount our root file 
systems on C:\.

Chuck

And now we have to use defrag twice a day. It's the law!


On Mon, 23 May 2005, Chris Hofstader wrote:

> Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get the
> memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one true
> Operating Environment <smile>.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:54 AM
> To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
>
> What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
> such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?
>
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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[jaffar]

Hi all.  Perhaps I must make my position clear here.  First, I have but one 
and only one machine, and if I were to install Linux, I'll have to share it 
with an already installed Microsoft windows box.  Second, my dectalk express 
hardware is installed and connected to com port 1, or ser 0 in the Linux 
equivalent, and since I'm not yet a linux expert like most of you on this 
list, I of course had to highlight my problem in a language that I can 
understand in the hope that those of you linux experts who've had experience 
with the Microsoft Windows environment can help me with my problem.  I am 
aware that this is a linux list, and I am aware that I am not a Linux freak 
by any stretch of the emagination.  But I am willing to learn a totally new 
environment to widen my knowledge in computers, and comments like these, far 
from helping, will surely turn me off and away from the linux OS that I was 
so keen to learn.  If i didn't have a problem, If my desire to install linux 
went as smooth as some of you had encountered, I won't be struggling and 
asking these questions that I deem to be so important to get myself up and 
running.  I have spent countless hours downloading the various linux 
distros, trying my darndest to get them installed, all to no avail.  But i 
figure it will be comments like these that will turn me away, and not the 
installation struggles that I've had to go through.  So I'll get off this 
list and stick to what I know and be all the happier for it.  Cheers!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@knology.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?


> Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get the
> memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one true
> Operating Environment <smile>.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:54 AM
> To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
>
> What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
> such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?
>
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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Gregory Nowak]

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Actually, the linux designation for the first rs232 serial port is
/dev/ttyS0, or just ttyS0 for short. ser0 is a speakup-specific
parameter.

Greg


On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:48:39AM +0800, jaffar@jeffstudio.net wrote:
> Hi all.  Perhaps I must make my position clear here.  First, I have but one 
> and only one machine, and if I were to install Linux, I'll have to share it 
> with an already installed Microsoft windows box.  Second, my dectalk 
> express hardware is installed and connected to com port 1, or ser 0 in the 
> Linux equivalent, and since I'm not yet a linux expert like most of you on 
> this list, I of course had to highlight my problem in a language that I can 
> understand in the hope that those of you linux experts who've had 
> experience with the Microsoft Windows environment can help me with my 
> problem.  I am aware that this is a linux list, and I am aware that I am 
> not a Linux freak by any stretch of the emagination.  But I am willing to 
> learn a totally new environment to widen my knowledge in computers, and 
> comments like these, far from helping, will surely turn me off and away 
> from the linux OS that I was so keen to learn.  If i didn't have a problem, 
> If my desire to install linux went as smooth as some of you had 
> encountered, I won't be struggling and asking these questions that I deem 
> to be so important to get myself up and running.  I have spent countless 
> hours downloading the various linux distros, trying my darndest to get them 
> installed, all to no avail.  But i figure it will be comments like these 
> that will turn me away, and not the installation struggles that I've had to 
> go through.  So I'll get off this list and stick to what I know and be all 
> the happier for it.  Cheers!

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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Janina Sajka]

I didn't mean you. I understand you are new, so would expect you to use
terms you know.

However, others have responded and have not enlightened you as to the
correct Linux term--until today. That did not seem appropriate to me.

It's fine that we can translate terms among the various environments.
But, we should learn the environment specific terms for Linux, if we're
talking Linux. So, now you know.

jaffar@jeffstudio.net writes:
> Hi all.  Perhaps I must make my position clear here.  First, I have but one 
> and only one machine, and if I were to install Linux, I'll have to share it 
> with an already installed Microsoft windows box.  Second, my dectalk 
> express hardware is installed and connected to com port 1, or ser 0 in the 
> Linux equivalent, and since I'm not yet a linux expert like most of you on 
> this list, I of course had to highlight my problem in a language that I can 
> understand in the hope that those of you linux experts who've had 
> experience with the Microsoft Windows environment can help me with my 
> problem.  I am aware that this is a linux list, and I am aware that I am 
> not a Linux freak by any stretch of the emagination.  But I am willing to 
> learn a totally new environment to widen my knowledge in computers, and 
> comments like these, far from helping, will surely turn me off and away 
> from the linux OS that I was so keen to learn.  If i didn't have a problem, 
> If my desire to install linux went as smooth as some of you had 
> encountered, I won't be struggling and asking these questions that I deem 
> to be so important to get myself up and running.  I have spent countless 
> hours downloading the various linux distros, trying my darndest to get them 
> installed, all to no avail.  But i figure it will be comments like these 
> that will turn me away, and not the installation struggles that I've had to 
> go through.  So I'll get off this list and stick to what I know and be all 
> the happier for it.  Cheers!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@knology.net>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
> 
> 
> >Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get the
> >memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one true
> >Operating Environment <smile>.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> >[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> >On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> >Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:54 AM
> >To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
> >
> >What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
> >such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Janina Sajka]

Actually, Bush's disability web site runs Debian and Apache.

Chris Hofstader writes:
> Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get the
> memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one true
> Operating Environment <smile>. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:54 AM
> To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
> 
> What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
> such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Sean McMahon]

I'll take that as a suggestion to tell the departmental mandates to take a hike.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?


> Actually, Bush's disability web site runs Debian and Apache.
>
> Chris Hofstader writes:
> > Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get the
> > memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one true
> > Operating Environment <smile>.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:54 AM
> > To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
> >
> > What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
> > such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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>
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Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Sean McMahon]

Yet departments still live on outdated mandates.  Debian on a gov website, how
cool is that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?


> Actually, Bush's disability web site runs Debian and Apache.
>
> Chris Hofstader writes:
> > Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get the
> > memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one true
> > Operating Environment <smile>.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:54 AM
> > To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
> >
> > What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
> > such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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>
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>
> Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to
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RE: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Jim Grimsby]

Hi, 
Well when you look at the bios witch is what they were talking about the
bios offten erfairs to the ports as com 1 2 lpt 1 etc.  So when he is
talking about making bios changes we had better refer to the changes as
the bios refairs to them.  There is no tty0 etc.  Just like in the bios
there is no lp port.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:54 AM
To: david@bruzos.org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?


What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there is
such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?

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RE: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?

[Jim Grimsby]

Hi, well I thought we were talking about changing settings in the bios.
If so the bios as I said does call these devices com x.   
My list of devices on this board show com 1 enabled.  So telling some
one to enable ttys0 in the bios would be wrong.  There is no such device
in the bios.  
Hth 

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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:00 PM
To: jaffar@jeffstudio.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?


I didn't mean you. I understand you are new, so would expect you to use
terms you know.

However, others have responded and have not enlightened you as to the
correct Linux term--until today. That did not seem appropriate to me.

It's fine that we can translate terms among the various environments.
But, we should learn the environment specific terms for Linux, if we're
talking Linux. So, now you know.

jaffar@jeffstudio.net writes:
> Hi all.  Perhaps I must make my position clear here.  First, I have 
> but one
> and only one machine, and if I were to install Linux, I'll have to
share it 
> with an already installed Microsoft windows box.  Second, my dectalk 
> express hardware is installed and connected to com port 1, or ser 0 in
the 
> Linux equivalent, and since I'm not yet a linux expert like most of
you on 
> this list, I of course had to highlight my problem in a language that
I can 
> understand in the hope that those of you linux experts who've had 
> experience with the Microsoft Windows environment can help me with my 
> problem.  I am aware that this is a linux list, and I am aware that I
am 
> not a Linux freak by any stretch of the emagination.  But I am willing
to 
> learn a totally new environment to widen my knowledge in computers,
and 
> comments like these, far from helping, will surely turn me off and
away 
> from the linux OS that I was so keen to learn.  If i didn't have a
problem, 
> If my desire to install linux went as smooth as some of you had 
> encountered, I won't be struggling and asking these questions that I
deem 
> to be so important to get myself up and running.  I have spent
countless 
> hours downloading the various linux distros, trying my darndest to get
them 
> installed, all to no avail.  But i figure it will be comments like
these 
> that will turn me away, and not the installation struggles that I've
had to 
> go through.  So I'll get off this list and stick to what I know and be
all 
> the happier for it.  Cheers!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@knology.net>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Speakup or dectalk, and the answer?
> 
> 
> >Hey Girlfriend, Microsoft has taken over everywhere, didn't you get 
> >the memo?  The W. Bush administration declared Windows to be the one 
> >true Operating Environment <smile>.
> >
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> >On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
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> >
> >What's with all this "com1" talk on this list. I don't believe there 
> >is such a thing on Linux. Or, has Microsoft taken over here too?
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