Greetings from Ubuntu

Greetings from Ubuntu

[Henrik Nilsen Omma]

Hello SpeakUp List!

I've just been make aware of this list, so I'm writing to introduce 
myself. I'm Henrik Nilsen Omma, Accessibility Coordinator at Ubuntu.

I see from the archives that there have been some questions about Ubuntu 
Edgy, Orca etc. and some misconceptions that I'll try to clear up.

The aim of the Live CD is to provide an environment for exploring the 
system and later installing it. This should work independently for both 
visually and mobility impaired users. We are just a few bugs away from 
making it work smoothly ;) -- but we still have a couple of weeks.

The default Ubuntu installer is written in GTK (as it runs on a Gnome 
system). The reason it does not speak to Orca at the moment is that it 
is running as root, while Orca runs as a user. We are preparing a fix 
for this, but for now you can work around it by running Orca from a root 
terminal and then running 'ubiquity' from there as well (the installer).
 The Kubuntu version of the installer is written in QT, but most VI 
users would not want to install KDE at this point. Things are looking 
better for KDE4 though.

We have also included speakup with our default Edgy kernel, but have not 
prepared the required command line scripts for it yet. Any help with 
testing speakup in Edgy and preparing such scripts would be great!

About myself: I'm not visually impaired but I do have a mobility 
impairment. Of the Linux access tools, I only use sticky keys myself 
though I do have a working familiarity with the others. My main role is 
to encourage, facilitate and coordinate accessibility development in 
Ubuntu. I work with end-users in the forums and mailing lists and with 
the core developers to implement features.

Henrik
 

Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Gabriel Vega]

Thank you sir for all your efforts. I do have a question though. Is your
ubuntu installer intel mac compatible? and if so what will the accessibility
options offer for it. I mainly work with macs but have a couple of pc's I
can install this ubuntu on. I tried at one time to install it on an hp vetra
p3 866 but that didn't work at all.


Gabe Vega
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From: "Henrik Nilsen Omma" <henrik@ubuntu.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:58 AM
Subject: Greetings from Ubuntu


> Hello SpeakUp List!
>
> I've just been make aware of this list, so I'm writing to introduce
> myself. I'm Henrik Nilsen Omma, Accessibility Coordinator at Ubuntu.
>
> I see from the archives that there have been some questions about Ubuntu
> Edgy, Orca etc. and some misconceptions that I'll try to clear up.
>
> The aim of the Live CD is to provide an environment for exploring the
> system and later installing it. This should work independently for both
> visually and mobility impaired users. We are just a few bugs away from
> making it work smoothly ;) -- but we still have a couple of weeks.
>
> The default Ubuntu installer is written in GTK (as it runs on a Gnome
> system). The reason it does not speak to Orca at the moment is that it
> is running as root, while Orca runs as a user. We are preparing a fix
> for this, but for now you can work around it by running Orca from a root
> terminal and then running 'ubiquity' from there as well (the installer).
>  The Kubuntu version of the installer is written in QT, but most VI
> users would not want to install KDE at this point. Things are looking
> better for KDE4 though.
>
> We have also included speakup with our default Edgy kernel, but have not
> prepared the required command line scripts for it yet. Any help with
> testing speakup in Edgy and preparing such scripts would be great!
>
> About myself: I'm not visually impaired but I do have a mobility
> impairment. Of the Linux access tools, I only use sticky keys myself
> though I do have a working familiarity with the others. My main role is
> to encourage, facilitate and coordinate accessibility development in
> Ubuntu. I work with end-users in the forums and mailing lists and with
> the core developers to implement features.
>
> Henrik
>
>
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Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Henrik Nilsen Omma]

Hi Gabriel,

It boots and installs on normal PPC's but not yet Intel Macs without 
some hacking. I've sen it run nicely on the Mac virtual machines though.

Henrik

Gabriel Vega wrote:
> Thank you sir for all your efforts. I do have a question though. Is your
> ubuntu installer intel mac compatible? and if so what will the accessibility
> options offer for it. 

Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Gabriel Vega]

does gnupernucus run on the ppc?
Gabe Vega
The BlindTechs Network
Website: http://blindtechs.net
Email: blindtech@blindtechs.net
(602) 476-2307
(562) 261-5277
(866) 714-4244
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From: "Henrik Nilsen Omma" <henrik@ubuntu.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Greetings from Ubuntu


> Hi Gabriel,
>
> It boots and installs on normal PPC's but not yet Intel Macs without
> some hacking. I've sen it run nicely on the Mac virtual machines though.
>
> Henrik
>
> Gabriel Vega wrote:
> > Thank you sir for all your efforts. I do have a question though. Is your
> > ubuntu installer intel mac compatible? and if so what will the
accessibility
> > options offer for it.
>
>
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Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Henrik Nilsen Omma]

Gabriel Vega wrote:
> does gnupernucus run on the ppc?
>   

Yes, though I would recommend you try Orca on Edgy.

Henrik

RE: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Scott Ford]

Hello,
	I attempted to run the live cd on a toshiba a55 notbook.  I could
not get ubuntu to boot up.  Would you know how to get it to boot?
 Scott

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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:59 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Greetings from Ubuntu

Hello SpeakUp List!

I've just been make aware of this list, so I'm writing to introduce myself.
I'm Henrik Nilsen Omma, Accessibility Coordinator at Ubuntu.

I see from the archives that there have been some questions about Ubuntu
Edgy, Orca etc. and some misconceptions that I'll try to clear up.

The aim of the Live CD is to provide an environment for exploring the system
and later installing it. This should work independently for both visually
and mobility impaired users. We are just a few bugs away from making it work
smoothly ;) -- but we still have a couple of weeks.

The default Ubuntu installer is written in GTK (as it runs on a Gnome
system). The reason it does not speak to Orca at the moment is that it is
running as root, while Orca runs as a user. We are preparing a fix for this,
but for now you can work around it by running Orca from a root terminal and
then running 'ubiquity' from there as well (the installer).
 The Kubuntu version of the installer is written in QT, but most VI users
would not want to install KDE at this point. Things are looking better for
KDE4 though.

We have also included speakup with our default Edgy kernel, but have not
prepared the required command line scripts for it yet. Any help with testing
speakup in Edgy and preparing such scripts would be great!

About myself: I'm not visually impaired but I do have a mobility impairment.
Of the Linux access tools, I only use sticky keys myself though I do have a
working familiarity with the others. My main role is to encourage,
facilitate and coordinate accessibility development in Ubuntu. I work with
end-users in the forums and mailing lists and with the core developers to
implement features.

Henrik
 

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Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Henrik Nilsen Omma]

Scott Ford wrote:
> Hello,
> 	I attempted to run the live cd on a toshiba a55 notbook.  I could
> not get ubuntu to boot up.  Would you know how to get it to boot?
>   

Sorry, I don't know what the problem might be with that particular 
machine. I don't see it in this list of tested Toshiba laptops: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba

Laptops sometimes have ACPI problems. You might try booting with 
*acpi*=off added to the boot parameter list (pressing F6 at initial boot 
screen).

You'll probably more precise advice on the ubuntu user mailing list or 
in the forums.

Henrik

Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Marcel Oats]

Excellent stuff Henrik, good to see you on here.  When you mean 
running Orca from a terminal as root, how would you do that from the 
live cd?  Can you run Orca from a separate console?  I'm a bit 
confused, though I know I aught not to be.
Marcel

At 04:58 Ay M 4/10/2006, you wrote:
>Hello SpeakUp List!
>
>I've just been make aware of this list, so I'm writing to introduce
>myself. I'm Henrik Nilsen Omma, Accessibility Coordinator at Ubuntu.
>
>I see from the archives that there have been some questions about Ubuntu
>Edgy, Orca etc. and some misconceptions that I'll try to clear up.
>
>The aim of the Live CD is to provide an environment for exploring the
>system and later installing it. This should work independently for both
>visually and mobility impaired users. We are just a few bugs away from
>making it work smoothly ;) -- but we still have a couple of weeks.
>
>The default Ubuntu installer is written in GTK (as it runs on a Gnome
>system). The reason it does not speak to Orca at the moment is that it
>is running as root, while Orca runs as a user. We are preparing a fix
>for this, but for now you can work around it by running Orca from a root
>terminal and then running 'ubiquity' from there as well (the installer).
>  The Kubuntu version of the installer is written in QT, but most VI
>users would not want to install KDE at this point. Things are looking
>better for KDE4 though.
>
>We have also included speakup with our default Edgy kernel, but have not
>prepared the required command line scripts for it yet. Any help with
>testing speakup in Edgy and preparing such scripts would be great!
>
>About myself: I'm not visually impaired but I do have a mobility
>impairment. Of the Linux access tools, I only use sticky keys myself
>though I do have a working familiarity with the others. My main role is
>to encourage, facilitate and coordinate accessibility development in
>Ubuntu. I work with end-users in the forums and mailing lists and with
>the core developers to implement features.
>
>Henrik
>
>
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>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Henrik Nilsen Omma]

Marcel Oats wrote:
> Excellent stuff Henrik, good to see you on here.  When you mean 
> running Orca from a terminal as root, how would you do that from the 
> live cd?  Can you run Orca from a separate console?  I'm a bit 
> confused, though I know I aught not to be.
>   

I've only tried it in a gnome-terminal window (can be started by 
pressing Alt-F2 then typing 'gnome-terminal') but may also work from a 
separate console (I guess 'orca' will work, 'ubiquity' may not as it 
needs an X display).

In the gnome terminal type 'sudo su' -- on the live CD you don't need a 
password. Type 'orca &' <return> and then 'ubiquity' <return> (leave off 
the quotes).

Henrik

Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Marcel Oats]

Thank you, I'll give it a try.  

Re: Greetings from Ubuntu

[Marcel Oats]

Hi Henrik, I tried these directions with the 64-bit version, and it 
still didn't allow ubiquity to speak.  I am using the daily build 
from 5 October.

I'm going to download the latest 32-bit version, but don't think it 
should make a difference.  Of course I'm using it on a 64-bit Amd processor!

Marcel
At 10:44 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote:
>Marcel Oats wrote:
> > Excellent stuff Henrik, good to see you on here.  When you mean
> > running Orca from a terminal as root, how would you do that from the
> > live cd?  Can you run Orca from a separate console?  I'm a bit
> > confused, though I know I aught not to be.
> >
>
>I've only tried it in a gnome-terminal window (can be started by
>pressing Alt-F2 then typing 'gnome-terminal') but may also work from a
>separate console (I guess 'orca' will work, 'ubiquity' may not as it
>needs an X display).
>
>In the gnome terminal type 'sudo su' -- on the live CD you don't need a
>password. Type 'orca &' <return> and then 'ubiquity' <return> (leave off
>the quotes).
>
>Henrik
>
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