debian installation question

debian installation question

[hank]

hello is there a version of speakup, or debian or something where I can put the cd in hit inter, it installs linux reboots then prompts me with a log in screen with everything set to go?
kind of like a autounattended cd?
thanks
hank

Re: debian installation question

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

Well not exactly like other operating systems.  Linux is an operating system of choice.  I guess you have one machine which you only want Linux and nothing else installed?  When you have the freedom to dedicate x amount for users and x for the operating system, choices have to be made.  The debian installer is not that intimidating.  There's no way of not needing basic knowledge of the hardware to which any operating system is to be installed.

Maybe you want to look at the grml disk, which is a live CD.  Just put it in your CD drive and after a few seconds type something like "grml speak".  This will enable you to see / hear an operational system but it is not installed on to the hard disk but just in memory.

I believe that there was a way of installing Redhat in an aumated fashion but you'll have to ask Redhat / Fedora users about that one.

Maybe if you offered a little more of your request, we can point you in the right direction.

HTH 

Gena

On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 04:39:18PM -0700, hank wrote:
> hello is there a version of speakup, or debian or something where I can put the cd in hit inter, it installs linux reboots then prompts me with a log in screen with everything set to go?
> kind of like a autounattended cd?
> thanks
> hank
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
---end quoted text---

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Re: debian installation question

[Chris Norman]

Hi, about GRML, it's
grml swspeak

Check the GRML_Cheatcodes.txt file, from the GRML site.

HTH,

Chris Norman
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@genaj.plus.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: debian installation question


> Hi
>
> Well not exactly like other operating systems.  Linux is an operating 
> system of choice.  I guess you have one machine which you only want Linux 
> and nothing else installed?  When you have the freedom to dedicate x 
> amount for users and x for the operating system, choices have to be made. 
> The debian installer is not that intimidating.  There's no way of not 
> needing basic knowledge of the hardware to which any operating system is 
> to be installed.
>
> Maybe you want to look at the grml disk, which is a live CD.  Just put it 
> in your CD drive and after a few seconds type something like "grml speak". 
> This will enable you to see / hear an operational system but it is not 
> installed on to the hard disk but just in memory.
>
> I believe that there was a way of installing Redhat in an aumated fashion 
> but you'll have to ask Redhat / Fedora users about that one.
>
> Maybe if you offered a little more of your request, we can point you in 
> the right direction.
>
> HTH
>
> Gena
>
> On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 04:39:18PM -0700, hank wrote:
>> hello is there a version of speakup, or debian or something where I can 
>> put the cd in hit inter, it installs linux reboots then prompts me with a 
>> log in screen with everything set to go?
>> kind of like a autounattended cd?
>> thanks
>> hank
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
> ---end quoted text---
>
> -- 
> 2E0AXU
>
> Freedom & Power provided by debian GNU Linux
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: debian installation question

[hank]

I won't have any speech hardware speech to be exact during this 
installation, I want to deticate this machine to linux and nothing else
I don't want to have to worry about pressing anything during the installer.
 hth
hank
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@genaj.plus.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: debian installation question


> Hi
>
> Well not exactly like other operating systems.  Linux is an operating 
> system of choice.  I guess you have one machine which you only want Linux 
> and nothing else installed?  When you have the freedom to dedicate x 
> amount for users and x for the operating system, choices have to be made. 
> The debian installer is not that intimidating.  There's no way of not 
> needing basic knowledge of the hardware to which any operating system is 
> to be installed.
>
> Maybe you want to look at the grml disk, which is a live CD.  Just put it 
> in your CD drive and after a few seconds type something like "grml speak". 
> This will enable you to see / hear an operational system but it is not 
> installed on to the hard disk but just in memory.
>
> I believe that there was a way of installing Redhat in an aumated fashion 
> but you'll have to ask Redhat / Fedora users about that one.
>
> Maybe if you offered a little more of your request, we can point you in 
> the right direction.
>
> HTH
>
> Gena
>
> On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 04:39:18PM -0700, hank wrote:
>> hello is there a version of speakup, or debian or something where I can 
>> put the cd in hit inter, it installs linux reboots then prompts me with a 
>> log in screen with everything set to go?
>> kind of like a autounattended cd?
>> thanks
>> hank
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
> ---end quoted text---
>
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>
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: debian installation question

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

Well, the use of a speakup enabled live CD is the way to go.  I don't know if knoppix speakup enabled can offer software support but grml does.  As corrected too you simply got to type at the prompt 'grml swspeak' if you think that you've messed up you can use a ctrl + u to clear the commandline and start again.  Hopefully, you'll get a talking shell to have a play around.  Ovviously you have to have a soundcard that grml can detect and set up.  You'll have to read grml's docs about how to make an install from the live CD.

If you haven't already googled for grml here it is:

http://www.grml.org

HTH

Gena
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:35:15AM -0700, hank wrote:
> I won't have any speech hardware speech to be exact during this 
> installation, I want to deticate this machine to linux and nothing else
> I don't want to have to worry about pressing anything during the installer.
>  hth
> hank
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@genaj.plus.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:49 AM
> Subject: Re: debian installation question
> 
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Well not exactly like other operating systems.  Linux is an operating 
> > system of choice.  I guess you have one machine which you only want Linux 
> > and nothing else installed?  When you have the freedom to dedicate x 
> > amount for users and x for the operating system, choices have to be made. 
> > The debian installer is not that intimidating.  There's no way of not 
> > needing basic knowledge of the hardware to which any operating system is 
> > to be installed.
> >
> > Maybe you want to look at the grml disk, which is a live CD.  Just put it 
> > in your CD drive and after a few seconds type something like "grml speak". 
> > This will enable you to see / hear an operational system but it is not 
> > installed on to the hard disk but just in memory.
> >
> > I believe that there was a way of installing Redhat in an aumated fashion 
> > but you'll have to ask Redhat / Fedora users about that one.
> >
> > Maybe if you offered a little more of your request, we can point you in 
> > the right direction.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Gena
> >
> > On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 04:39:18PM -0700, hank wrote:
> >> hello is there a version of speakup, or debian or something where I can 
> >> put the cd in hit inter, it installs linux reboots then prompts me with a 
> >> log in screen with everything set to go?
> >> kind of like a autounattended cd?
> >> thanks
> >> hank
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>
> > ---end quoted text---
> >
> > -- 
> > 2E0AXU
> >
> > Freedom & Power provided by debian GNU Linux
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: debian installation question

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

I forgot to also state another obvious i.e. you need a machine that will boot from CD too.

Regards

Gena
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:28:17PM +0100, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Well, the use of a speakup enabled live CD is the way to go.  I don't know if knoppix speakup enabled can offer software support but grml does.  As corrected too you simply got to type at the prompt 'grml swspeak' if you think that you've messed up you can use a ctrl + u to clear the commandline and start again.  Hopefully, you'll get a talking shell to have a play around.  Ovviously you have to have a soundcard that grml can detect and set up.  You'll have to read grml's docs about how to make an install from the live CD.
> 
> If you haven't already googled for grml here it is:
> 
> http://www.grml.org
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:35:15AM -0700, hank wrote:
> > I won't have any speech hardware speech to be exact during this 
> > installation, I want to deticate this machine to linux and nothing else
> > I don't want to have to worry about pressing anything during the installer.
> >  hth
> > hank
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@genaj.plus.com>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: debian installation question
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Well not exactly like other operating systems.  Linux is an operating 
> > > system of choice.  I guess you have one machine which you only want Linux 
> > > and nothing else installed?  When you have the freedom to dedicate x 
> > > amount for users and x for the operating system, choices have to be made. 
> > > The debian installer is not that intimidating.  There's no way of not 
> > > needing basic knowledge of the hardware to which any operating system is 
> > > to be installed.
> > >
> > > Maybe you want to look at the grml disk, which is a live CD.  Just put it 
> > > in your CD drive and after a few seconds type something like "grml speak". 
> > > This will enable you to see / hear an operational system but it is not 
> > > installed on to the hard disk but just in memory.
> > >
> > > I believe that there was a way of installing Redhat in an aumated fashion 
> > > but you'll have to ask Redhat / Fedora users about that one.
> > >
> > > Maybe if you offered a little more of your request, we can point you in 
> > > the right direction.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Gena
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 04:39:18PM -0700, hank wrote:
> > >> hello is there a version of speakup, or debian or something where I can 
> > >> put the cd in hit inter, it installs linux reboots then prompts me with a 
> > >> log in screen with everything set to go?
> > >> kind of like a autounattended cd?
> > >> thanks
> > >> hank
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Speakup mailing list
> > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >>
> > > ---end quoted text---
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > 2E0AXU
> > >
> > > Freedom & Power provided by debian GNU Linux
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
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> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> ---end quoted text---
> 
> -- 
> 2E0AXU
> 
> Freedom & Power provided by debian GNU Linux
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
---end quoted text---

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Re: Debian installation question

[Sean McMahon]

How do you use the .sign and .md5 files to verify the iso?  From Windows or 
linux?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <chuckh@hhs48.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Debian installation question


> The last two are quite small and are the md5 checksum and digital
> signature key you would need to verify that the first one has been
> downloaded correctly. You only need the one ending with .iso, but you
> need to be sure you have an accurate download.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 09:05:18AM -0400, propaine wrote:
>> I'm thinking about replacing my FC2 with Debian, so I went to
>>
>> http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/
>>
>> After looking at the very short read-me file, I tried to figure out what I'd 
>> need to download for the installation.  What are the differences between
>>
>> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso
>>
>> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.md5
>>
>> and
>> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.sign
>>
>> Would I need to use more than one of these for the installation?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Propaine
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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> 

Re: Debian installation question

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, the one iso file is what you need.  the others are just mainly ways to 
check if the file downloaded properly but I usually don't download them.  I 
installed it ok.  I get an error when doing the package configuration that 
one or more packages did not install.  Iputils and iputilsping I think they 
are called.  What command can I type to resolve the dependencies and 
download them so my system is installed properly.  The installation and 
configuration is much easier then redhat.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "propaine" <propaine@verizon.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:05 AM
Subject: Debian installation question


> I'm thinking about replacing my FC2 with Debian, so I went to
>
> http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/
>
> After looking at the very short read-me file, I tried to figure out what 
> I'd need to download for the installation.  What are the differences 
> between
>
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso
>
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.md5
>
> and
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.sign
>
> Would I need to use more than one of these for the installation?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Propaine
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Debian installation question

[Tyler Littlefield]

the md5 I think would contain the md5 key for the .iso file.
All that is is to varify the integrity of the file.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "propaine" <propaine@verizon.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:05 AM
Subject: Debian installation question


> I'm thinking about replacing my FC2 with Debian, so I went to
>
> http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/
>
> After looking at the very short read-me file, I tried to figure out what
I'd need to download for the installation.  What are the differences between
>
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso
>
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.md5
>
> and
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.sign
>
> Would I need to use more than one of these for the installation?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Propaine
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Debian installation question

[propaine]

Thank you, Raul and Chuck.  I have other questions, but will first see if I
get their answers via a link that was in one of yesterday's messages here.

Propaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <chuckh@hhs48.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Debian installation question


> The last two are quite small and are the md5 checksum and digital
> signature key you would need to verify that the first one has been
> downloaded correctly. You only need the one ending with .iso, but you
> need to be sure you have an accurate download.
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 09:05:18AM -0400, propaine wrote:
> > I'm thinking about replacing my FC2 with Debian, so I went to
> >
> > http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/
> >
> > After looking at the very short read-me file, I tried to figure out what
I'd need to download for the installation.  What are the differences between
> >
> > speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso
> >
> > speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.md5
> >
> > and
> > speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.sign
> >
> > Would I need to use more than one of these for the installation?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Propaine
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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> Get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh
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>
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Re: Debian installation question

[chuckh]

The last two are quite small and are the md5 checksum and digital 
signature key you would need to verify that the first one has been 
downloaded correctly. You only need the one ending with .iso, but you 
need to be sure you have an accurate download.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 09:05:18AM -0400, propaine wrote:
> I'm thinking about replacing my FC2 with Debian, so I went to
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/
> 
> After looking at the very short read-me file, I tried to figure out what I'd need to download for the installation.  What are the differences between
> 
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso
> 
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.md5
> 
> and
> speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.sign
> 
> Would I need to use more than one of these for the installation?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Propaine
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Debian installation question

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Just the iso file is needed. The others are md5 sums to make sure your 
installation is complete before burning it to a cd.

* propaine <propaine@verizon.net> [060726 07:05]:
> I'm thinking about replacing my FC2 with Debian, so I went to
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/


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Debian installation question

[propaine]

I'm thinking about replacing my FC2 with Debian, so I went to

http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/

After looking at the very short read-me file, I tried to figure out what I'd need to download for the installation.  What are the differences between

speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso

speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.md5

and
speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso.sign

Would I need to use more than one of these for the installation?

Thanks!

Propaine