Debian question

Debian question

[Dan Murphy]

> Hi all.
> I am in the process of installing Debian 3.1 and the last couple times I
> have booted it has gone into theX server.
> I am running speakup with kernel 2.6.12.  How do I disable this
behavior?
> Thanks.
>
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>
>
>

Re: Debian question

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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Try disabling gdm.  As root:

update-rc -f gdm remove

or if you have /etc/runlevel.conf, you can simply delete or comment out the line
that refers to gdm.

HTH,
Lorenzo
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Re: Debian question

[Dan Murphy]

Hi.
I see no /etc/runlevel.conf, and the update-rc command yielded a not found
message.
Is this a different Debian?  I'm running 3.1 Sarge.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lorenzo Taylor" <lorenzo@taylor.homelinux.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: Debian question


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> Try disabling gdm.  As root:
>
> update-rc -f gdm remove
>
> or if you have /etc/runlevel.conf, you can simply delete or comment out
the line
> that refers to gdm.
>
> HTH,
> Lorenzo
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caution.
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Re: Debian question

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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Oops!  Thanks for catching my error.  The command is:

update-rc.d -f gdm remove

And if you don't have a /etc/runlevel.conf, the command will still work.
/etc/runlevel.conf is nt on all systems and is only present if you have replaced
the sysv-rc package with file-rc.

HTH,
Lorenzo
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Re: Debian question

[Dan Murphy]

thanks.  The update-re.d fixed it.

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From: "Lorenzo Taylor" <lorenzo@taylor.homelinux.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Debian question


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> Oops!  Thanks for catching my error.  The command is:
>
> update-rc.d -f gdm remove
>
> And if you don't have a /etc/runlevel.conf, the command will still work.
> /etc/runlevel.conf is nt on all systems and is only present if you have
replaced
> the sysv-rc package with file-rc.
>
> HTH,
> Lorenzo
> - -- 
> Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead
> lawyer in the road?
> A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.
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Re: debian question

[Frank Carmickle]

On Tue, Apr 15, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Of late I've been noticing lots of dpkg cannot get lock to directory 

looping?  I don't know what you mean.  Do you mean

   E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is
   another proc ess using it?




> looping errors.  One way to produce this is with aptitude install emacs 
> planner-el.  Probably many other emacs add-ons also produce this error as 
> well.  I first noticed this happen when I tried aptitude install emacs 
> bsdgames.  Emacs got on fine but bsdgames did not.  If I tried aptitude 
> install bsdgames emacs though, bsdgames gets on fine but blocks emacs.

The details of what packages probably doesn't matter.  What is the exact error?

--Frank

debian question

[Jude DaShiell]

Of late I've been noticing lots of dpkg cannot get lock to directory 
looping errors.  One way to produce this is with aptitude install emacs 
planner-el.  Probably many other emacs add-ons also produce this error as 
well.  I first noticed this happen when I tried aptitude install emacs 
bsdgames.  Emacs got on fine but bsdgames did not.  If I tried aptitude 
install bsdgames emacs though, bsdgames gets on fine but blocks emacs.

Re: Debian question

[Sean McMahon]

Oh yeah that's what I've heard is a good way to configure the bios.  Of co7urse
you'd need a lot of them or be able to slip cards in and out of computers with
ease.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Debian question


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> Hey, Any chance this method could enable you to configure the BIOS? That
> would be really trippy if one could.  That would surely solve a big
> accessibility problem for a bunch of us.
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:18:22AM -0500, John G. Heim wrote:
> > This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and it's
> > not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that there is a tool
> > that is really helpful in debugging boot problems. It's a PC Weasel.
> >
> > You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The operating
> > system recognizes it as a video card except that instead of video output it
> > has a serial port. So you can connect a null-modem cable to it and another
> > machine running a terminal emulator and get the boot messages.  I use it a
> > lot when I have a machine that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a
> > bootable CD. It costs like $300 though.
> >
> > It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with speakup
> > in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is anything
> > different about the VGA card other than that it is an unrecognized type of
> > card. So it treats it like a generic VGA card.  If you have some kind of
> > problem, you can plug in the null-modem cable and get whatever is on the
> > screen, whether it be boot messages or a login prompt or whatever.
> >
> >
> > PS: I think I have a problem  similar to yours. I  installed the speakup
> > modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified 2.6.8 kernel. It
> > won't boot unless my external doubletalk  LE is connected and turned on.
> > And when it does boot, I get no speech. There is nothing wrong with my
> > synth. And speakup appears to know it's there since if it's turned off, it
> > won't boot at all. It's exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's
> > really happening yet.  I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that
> > you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge.
> >
> > Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't full.
> > Check especially / and /boot.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote:
> > >Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install.
> > >First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my
> > >current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am
> > >considering reinstalling Sarge.
> > >What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install
> > >over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a
> > >number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before
> > >upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I
> > >install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of
> > >course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for
> > >the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I
> > >have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the
> > >latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not
> > >correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm
> > >running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel.
> > >Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I
> > >thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up
> > >again.
> > >I know wishfull thinking.
> > >
> > >Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Speakup mailing list
> > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
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> > jheim@math.wisc.edu
> > 3-4189
> >
> >
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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Re: Debian question

[Steve Holmes]

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Hey, Any chance this method could enable you to configure the BIOS? That
would be really trippy if one could.  That would surely solve a big
accessibility problem for a bunch of us.

On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:18:22AM -0500, John G. Heim wrote:
> This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and it's 
> not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that there is a tool 
> that is really helpful in debugging boot problems. It's a PC Weasel.
> 
> You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The operating 
> system recognizes it as a video card except that instead of video output it 
> has a serial port. So you can connect a null-modem cable to it and another 
> machine running a terminal emulator and get the boot messages.  I use it a 
> lot when I have a machine that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a 
> bootable CD. It costs like $300 though.
> 
> It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with speakup 
> in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is anything 
> different about the VGA card other than that it is an unrecognized type of 
> card. So it treats it like a generic VGA card.  If you have some kind of 
> problem, you can plug in the null-modem cable and get whatever is on the 
> screen, whether it be boot messages or a login prompt or whatever.
> 
> 
> PS: I think I have a problem  similar to yours. I  installed the speakup 
> modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified 2.6.8 kernel. It 
> won't boot unless my external doubletalk  LE is connected and turned on. 
> And when it does boot, I get no speech. There is nothing wrong with my 
> synth. And speakup appears to know it's there since if it's turned off, it 
> won't boot at all. It's exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's 
> really happening yet.  I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that 
> you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge.
> 
> Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't full. 
> Check especially / and /boot.
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote:
> >Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install.
> >First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my
> >current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am
> >considering reinstalling Sarge.
> >What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install
> >over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a
> >number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before
> >upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I
> >install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of
> >course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for
> >the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I
> >have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the
> >latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not
> >correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm
> >running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel.
> >Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I
> >thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up
> >again.
> >I know wishfull thinking.
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> --
> John G. Heim
> jheim@math.wisc.edu
> 3-4189
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

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Re: Debian question

[Sean McMahon]

> Actually that is a fine idea, but I know what the messages are in
> this case. My wife is handy in these cases and generally costs
> less..big grin. Well not true cause over the long-term, its more
> costly to have a wife, but nevertheless she much nicer than the
> card..grin.
This is what I've heard but apparently the return on investment on a wife these
days can be through the roof
.
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From: "Scott Howell" <n3byy@adelphia.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Debian question


> Actually that is a fine idea, but I know what the messages are in
> this case. My wife is handy in these cases and generally costs
> less..big grin. Well not true cause over the long-term, its more
> costly to have a wife, but nevertheless she much nicer than the
> card..grin.
> Actually in my case Speakup for whatever reason is having some issue
> with probing the serial port and even if I try loading software
> speech once the box is booted by removing the synth, I can't get
> Speakup to talk, it just seems to hang while loading the module.
> Speakup is not a module itself, but is built into the kernel. This is
> my problem. Pretty crazy ay?
>
> tnx
>
> On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:18 AM, John G. Heim wrote:
>
> > This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and
> > it's not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that
> > there is a tool that is really helpful in debugging boot problems.
> > It's a PC Weasel.
> >
> > You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The
> > operating system recognizes it as a video card except that instead
> > of video output it has a serial port. So you can connect a null-
> > modem cable to it and another machine running a terminal emulator
> > and get the boot messages.  I use it a lot when I have a machine
> > that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a bootable CD. It costs
> > like $300 though.
> >
> > It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with
> > speakup in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is
> > anything different about the VGA card other than that it is an
> > unrecognized type of card. So it treats it like a generic VGA
> > card.  If you have some kind of problem, you can plug in the null-
> > modem cable and get whatever is on the screen, whether it be boot
> > messages or a login prompt or whatever.
> >
> >
> > PS: I think I have a problem  similar to yours. I  installed the
> > speakup modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified
> > 2.6.8 kernel. It won't boot unless my external doubletalk  LE is
> > connected and turned on. And when it does boot, I get no speech.
> > There is nothing wrong with my synth. And speakup appears to know
> > it's there since if it's turned off, it won't boot at all. It's
> > exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's really
> > happening yet.  I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that
> > you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge.
> >
> > Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't
> > full. Check especially / and /boot.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote:
> >
> >> Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install.
> >> First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my
> >> current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am
> >> considering reinstalling Sarge.
> >> What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install
> >> over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a
> >> number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before
> >> upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I
> >> install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of
> >> course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for
> >> the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I
> >> have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the
> >> latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not
> >> correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm
> >> running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel.
> >> Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I
> >> thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up
> >> again.
> >> I know wishfull thinking.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > John G. Heim
> > jheim@math.wisc.edu
> > 3-4189
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
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Re: Debian question

[Scott Howell]

Actually that is a fine idea, but I know what the messages are in  
this case. My wife is handy in these cases and generally costs  
less..big grin. Well not true cause over the long-term, its more  
costly to have a wife, but nevertheless she much nicer than the  
card..grin.
Actually in my case Speakup for whatever reason is having some issue  
with probing the serial port and even if I try loading software  
speech once the box is booted by removing the synth, I can't get  
Speakup to talk, it just seems to hang while loading the module.  
Speakup is not a module itself, but is built into the kernel. This is  
my problem. Pretty crazy ay?

tnx

On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:18 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

> This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and  
> it's not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that  
> there is a tool that is really helpful in debugging boot problems.  
> It's a PC Weasel.
>
> You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The  
> operating system recognizes it as a video card except that instead  
> of video output it has a serial port. So you can connect a null- 
> modem cable to it and another machine running a terminal emulator  
> and get the boot messages.  I use it a lot when I have a machine  
> that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a bootable CD. It costs  
> like $300 though.
>
> It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with  
> speakup in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is  
> anything different about the VGA card other than that it is an  
> unrecognized type of card. So it treats it like a generic VGA  
> card.  If you have some kind of problem, you can plug in the null- 
> modem cable and get whatever is on the screen, whether it be boot  
> messages or a login prompt or whatever.
>
>
> PS: I think I have a problem  similar to yours. I  installed the  
> speakup modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified  
> 2.6.8 kernel. It won't boot unless my external doubletalk  LE is  
> connected and turned on. And when it does boot, I get no speech.  
> There is nothing wrong with my synth. And speakup appears to know  
> it's there since if it's turned off, it won't boot at all. It's  
> exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's really  
> happening yet.  I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that  
> you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge.
>
> Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't  
> full. Check especially / and /boot.
>
>
>
> At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote:
>
>> Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install.
>> First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my
>> current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am
>> considering reinstalling Sarge.
>> What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install
>> over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a
>> number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before
>> upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I
>> install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of
>> course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for
>> the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I
>> have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the
>> latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not
>> correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm
>> running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel.
>> Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I
>> thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up
>> again.
>> I know wishfull thinking.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
>
> --
> John G. Heim
> jheim@math.wisc.edu
> 3-4189
>
>
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>

Re: Debian question

[Scott Howell]

Thanks CHuck and yes I wish I had those packages installed, but I've  
been lucky till now. I have never had a problem with the external  
doubletalk until now either so what has broken the works, I can't  
imagine, but its incredibly odd that its during the time at which  
Speakup probes the ports. That makes me wonder if it has anything at  
all to do with the upgrade or not. I thought I had a pretty good idea  
of how the box boots, but I wonder if I'm missing something here. I  
know when speaking to Kirk, he wasn't sure either what could cause  
this unless a piece of hardware went flaky on me, but that doesn't  
make snese either. I can put a Knoppix cd in there and boot with  
speech no problem so I really am at a loss.

Scott

On Oct 18, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> Scott,
>
> I can't answer your question about the irregular reinstall, but I
> thought I would assure you that there is nothing inherently wrong with
> using a Sid system with the external double talk. I am doing that with
> no trouble, and have a 2.6.12 kernel. Be sure once you get a new  
> system
> up that you install packages called "apt-listbugs" and "apt- 
> listchanges"
> which will alert you during an upgrade if you are headed for  
> trouble. No
> guarantee, of course, Sid is risky they say, but you can at least
> decline to proceed with an upgrade if something you are upgrading has
> known bugs. I began with Sarge when it was "testing" and moved to Sid
> before Sarge went "stable", and have managed to avoid serious problems
> with the help of those two packages.
>
> Chuck
>
> -- 
> The Moon is Waning Gibbous (97% of Full)
> But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh
> or you could Jabber with me, using the JID chuckh@hhs48.com
>

Re: Debian question

[John G. Heim]

This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and it's 
not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that there is a tool 
that is really helpful in debugging boot problems. It's a PC Weasel.

You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The operating 
system recognizes it as a video card except that instead of video output it 
has a serial port. So you can connect a null-modem cable to it and another 
machine running a terminal emulator and get the boot messages.  I use it a 
lot when I have a machine that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a 
bootable CD. It costs like $300 though.

It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with speakup 
in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is anything 
different about the VGA card other than that it is an unrecognized type of 
card. So it treats it like a generic VGA card.  If you have some kind of 
problem, you can plug in the null-modem cable and get whatever is on the 
screen, whether it be boot messages or a login prompt or whatever.


PS: I think I have a problem  similar to yours. I  installed the speakup 
modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified 2.6.8 kernel. It 
won't boot unless my external doubletalk  LE is connected and turned on. 
And when it does boot, I get no speech. There is nothing wrong with my 
synth. And speakup appears to know it's there since if it's turned off, it 
won't boot at all. It's exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's 
really happening yet.  I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that 
you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge.

Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't full. 
Check especially / and /boot.



At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote:
>Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install.
>First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my
>current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am
>considering reinstalling Sarge.
>What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install
>over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a
>number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before
>upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I
>install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of
>course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for
>the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I
>have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the
>latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not
>correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm
>running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel.
>Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I
>thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up
>again.
>I know wishfull thinking.
>
>Scott
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: Debian question

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Scott,

I can't answer your question about the irregular reinstall, but I 
thought I would assure you that there is nothing inherently wrong with 
using a Sid system with the external double talk. I am doing that with 
no trouble, and have a 2.6.12 kernel. Be sure once you get a new system 
up that you install packages called "apt-listbugs" and "apt-listchanges" 
which will alert you during an upgrade if you are headed for trouble. No 
guarantee, of course, Sid is risky they say, but you can at least 
decline to proceed with an upgrade if something you are upgrading has 
known bugs. I began with Sarge when it was "testing" and moved to Sid 
before Sarge went "stable", and have managed to avoid serious problems 
with the help of those two packages. 

Chuck

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Debian question

[Scott Howell]

Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install.
First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my  
current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am  
considering reinstalling Sarge.
What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install  
over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a  
number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before  
upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I  
install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of  
course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for  
the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I  
have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the  
latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not  
correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm  
running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel.
Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I  
thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up  
again.
I know wishfull thinking.

Scott

Re: Debian question

[Alex Snow]

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edit your /etc/hostname file and put the domain of your machine with 
the hostname like host.domain.com.
On 
Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 11:05:54PM -0500, Jes and guide dog Harley wrote:
> Hi all. How does one go about setting the domain name of a debian system, in other words whether it's a .com, .net. etc. Thanks.
> Jes
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Debian question

[Lorenzo Prince]

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put the fully qualified domain name into /etc/hostname.  Unlike in Red Hat, Debian actually retains the information stored there.  It doesn't try to 
change it.

echo prince.homelinux.org >/etc/hostname

did it for me.

HTH,
PRINCE

Thus spake Jes and guide dog Harley:
> Hi all. How does one go about setting the domain name of a debian system, in other words whether it's a .com, .net. etc. Thanks.
> Jes
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Debian question

[Jes and guide dog Harley]

Hi all. How does one go about setting the domain name of a debian system, in other words whether it's a .com, .net. etc. Thanks.
Jes

Re: debian question

[Mikko Liukko]

apt shows
root@Knoppix / # apt-cache search speakup
kernel-doc-2.4.20-speakup - Linux kernel specific documentation for version 
2.4.20-speakup
kernel-headers-2.4.20-speakup - Header files related to Linux kernel version 
2.4.20-speakup
kernel-image-2.4.20-speakup - Linux kernel binary image for version 
2.4.20-speakup
kernel-patch-speakup - A screen review package for the Linux kernel
root@Knoppix / #

Cheers Mikko

On Monday 23 June 2003 11:16, seth creature wrote:
> Hi all... I just checked out the debian link on the speakup ftp site, and
> the readme.txt file says that the kernel there is 2.2.17.  I'm just curious
> whether that's been updated or not as some time ago on the list I read that
> a change of some kind happened there, but lost the email pertaining to
> that. Thanks much... Cheereo!
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

debian question

[seth creature]

Hi all... I just checked out the debian link on the speakup ftp site, and
the readme.txt file says that the kernel there is 2.2.17.  I'm just curious
whether that's been updated or not as some time ago on the list I read that
a change of some kind happened there, but lost the email pertaining to that.
Thanks much... Cheereo!

Re: debian question

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi Sean,

	Not sure what the problem is in your situation, but you could try these options; they've been working finr for me for a long time noW:

	APT-GET UPDATE
	APT-GET -F -M UPGRADE or apt-get -f -m dist-upgrade

HTH,

	--terry

On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 10:45:27PM +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> hi,
> why is it, when I try to upgrade debian woody with apt-get upgrade,
> I get a size missmatch error.
> at the moment, there's 122 packages want upgrading and I can't get any
> more than half way or there abouts through it.
> I get to the point where I've got around 47.2 mb of files to download
> and it dies.
> any help would be greatly appreciated.
> yes I did initially do apt-get update
> then apt-get upgrade.
> but it keeps dying at that point.
> thanks in advance.
> 
> -- 
> Shaun Oliver
> 
> 
> "We're upgrading /dev/null"
> 
> 
> EMAIIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au
> ICQ: 76958435
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> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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debian question

[Shaun Oliver]

hi,
why is it, when I try to upgrade debian woody with apt-get upgrade,
I get a size missmatch error.
at the moment, there's 122 packages want upgrading and I can't get any
more than half way or there abouts through it.
I get to the point where I've got around 47.2 mb of files to download
and it dies.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
yes I did initially do apt-get update
then apt-get upgrade.
but it keeps dying at that point.
thanks in advance.

-- 
Shaun Oliver


"We're upgrading /dev/null"


EMAIIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au
ICQ: 76958435
MSN: blindman_2001@hotmail.com
YAHOO: blindman01_2000