From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fed1rmmtao12.cox.net ([68.230.241.27]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EU3uZ-00066P-00 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:06:55 -0400 Received: from lnx2.holmesgrown.com ([70.162.12.64]) by fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051024150334.OUHY2059.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@lnx2.holmesgrown.com> for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:03:34 -0400 Received: from lnx3.holmesgrown.com ([192.168.1.5] ident=mail) by lnx2.holmesgrown.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1EU3rv-0000w0-00 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:04:11 -0700 Received: from steve by lnx3.holmesgrown.com with local (Exim 4.20) id 1EU3rx-000165-PH for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:04:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:04:13 -0700 From: Steve Holmes To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20051024150413.GB3649@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <6.2.1.2.2.20051019090040.02f5a228@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20051019090040.02f5a228@wiscmail.wisc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: "Steve Holmes,,," Subject: Re: Debian question X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:06:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hey, Any chance this method could enable you to configure the BIOS? That would be really trippy if one could. That would surely solve a big accessibility problem for a bunch of us. On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:18:22AM -0500, John G. Heim wrote: > This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and it's > not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that there is a tool > that is really helpful in debugging boot problems. It's a PC Weasel. > > You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The operating > system recognizes it as a video card except that instead of video output it > has a serial port. So you can connect a null-modem cable to it and another > machine running a terminal emulator and get the boot messages. I use it a > lot when I have a machine that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a > bootable CD. It costs like $300 though. > > It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with speakup > in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is anything > different about the VGA card other than that it is an unrecognized type of > card. So it treats it like a generic VGA card. If you have some kind of > problem, you can plug in the null-modem cable and get whatever is on the > screen, whether it be boot messages or a login prompt or whatever. > > > PS: I think I have a problem similar to yours. I installed the speakup > modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified 2.6.8 kernel. It > won't boot unless my external doubletalk LE is connected and turned on. > And when it does boot, I get no speech. There is nothing wrong with my > synth. And speakup appears to know it's there since if it's turned off, it > won't boot at all. It's exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's > really happening yet. I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that > you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge. > > Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't full. > Check especially / and /boot. > > > > At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote: > >Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install. > >First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my > >current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am > >considering reinstalling Sarge. > >What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install > >over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a > >number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before > >upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I > >install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of > >course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for > >the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I > >have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the > >latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not > >correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm > >running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel. > >Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I > >thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up > >again. > >I know wishfull thinking. > > > >Scott > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > John G. Heim > jheim@math.wisc.edu > 3-4189 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDXPftWSjv55S0LfERAzU9AJ9a/LmB667p/qy5sq8ixD2JarNd2ACgkEn1 OvNhSuZXrJuR4i5Ld2jfJMw= =Ay+5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----