* programs that work good with speakup @ josh ` Daniel Dalton ` Ralph W. Reid 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: josh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Are there any good msn messenger, skype word processor spreadsheet and accessible games that work good with speakup? I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and stuff. Josh email: jkenn337@gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup programs that work good with speakup josh @ ` Daniel Dalton ` josh ` Lorenzo Taylor ` Ralph W. Reid 1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dalton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, josh wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any good msn messenger, Dunno, think so. Why not search the repo and try stuff out? Lots of cli apps will be accessible. Actually most. Just some better than others. > skype No. Skype for linux is a qt app I believe. Or its not gtk or something. So its not even accessible with orca in a gui. > word processor > spreadsheet Come on. If you want this stuff you really need a gui. Gnome isn't that big. With everything up and running maybe just over 1 gb. or maybe 2 gb. Dunno exactly. > and accessible games that work good with speakup? No! None for a gui anyway. If you want all this stuff with no gui linux probably isn't for you. I actually am trying to get an audio game to run in wine with gnome... > I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and Well no not exactly. Debian etch and lenny I guess... Can be installed with no desktop. And you can always remove gnome from ubuntu I guess. But dunno who would bother. You should probably get a gui as well even through startx so stuff like spreadsheet and word processor work. > stuff. What stuff? -- Daniel Dalton http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ d.dalton@iinet.net.au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Daniel Dalton @ ` josh ` Alex Snow ` Lorenzo Taylor 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: josh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. How much ram does gnome plus a screen reader take up then? email: jkenn337@gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@iinet.net.au> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:28 AM Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup > On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, josh wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Are there any good msn messenger, > > Dunno, think so. > Why not search the repo and try stuff out? > Lots of cli apps will be accessible. Actually most. > Just some better than others. > >> skype > > No. Skype for linux is a qt app I believe. > Or its not gtk or something. > So its not even accessible with orca in a gui. > >> word processor >> spreadsheet > > Come on. If you want this stuff you really need a gui. > Gnome isn't that big. With everything up and running maybe just over 1 gb. > or maybe 2 gb. Dunno exactly. > >> and accessible games that work good with speakup? > > No! > > None for a gui anyway. > If you want all this stuff with no gui linux probably isn't for you. > I actually am trying to get an audio game to run in wine with gnome... > >> I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and > > Well no not exactly. > Debian etch and lenny I guess... Can be installed with no desktop. > And you can always remove gnome from ubuntu I guess. But dunno who would > bother. > You should probably get a gui as well even through startx so stuff like > spreadsheet and word processor work. > >> stuff. > > What stuff? > > -- > Daniel Dalton > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > d.dalton@iinet.net.au > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` josh @ ` Alex Snow ` josh 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'm running it comfortably in 512mb On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:28:58AM -0500, josh wrote: > How much ram does gnome plus a screen reader take up then? > > email: jkenn337@gmail.com > skype: jkenn337 > msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@iinet.net.au> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:28 AM > Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup > > > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, josh wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Are there any good msn messenger, > > > > Dunno, think so. > > Why not search the repo and try stuff out? > > Lots of cli apps will be accessible. Actually most. > > Just some better than others. > > > >> skype > > > > No. Skype for linux is a qt app I believe. > > Or its not gtk or something. > > So its not even accessible with orca in a gui. > > > >> word processor > >> spreadsheet > > > > Come on. If you want this stuff you really need a gui. > > Gnome isn't that big. With everything up and running maybe just over 1 gb. > > or maybe 2 gb. Dunno exactly. > > > >> and accessible games that work good with speakup? > > > > No! > > > > None for a gui anyway. > > If you want all this stuff with no gui linux probably isn't for you. > > I actually am trying to get an audio game to run in wine with gnome... > > > >> I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and > > > > Well no not exactly. > > Debian etch and lenny I guess... Can be installed with no desktop. > > And you can always remove gnome from ubuntu I guess. But dunno who would > > bother. > > You should probably get a gui as well even through startx so stuff like > > spreadsheet and word processor work. > > > >> stuff. > > > > What stuff? > > > > -- > > Daniel Dalton > > > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > > d.dalton@iinet.net.au > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I wonder if He has a full newsfeed? -- Matt Welsh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Alex Snow @ ` josh ` Steve Holmes ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: josh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, does gnome require more memory than windows xp pro does? email: jkenn337@gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup > I'm running it comfortably in 512mb > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:28:58AM > -0500, josh wrote: >> How much ram does gnome plus a screen reader take up then? >> >> email: jkenn337@gmail.com >> skype: jkenn337 >> msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@iinet.net.au> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:28 AM >> Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup >> >> >> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, josh wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Are there any good msn messenger, >> > >> > Dunno, think so. >> > Why not search the repo and try stuff out? >> > Lots of cli apps will be accessible. Actually most. >> > Just some better than others. >> > >> >> skype >> > >> > No. Skype for linux is a qt app I believe. >> > Or its not gtk or something. >> > So its not even accessible with orca in a gui. >> > >> >> word processor >> >> spreadsheet >> > >> > Come on. If you want this stuff you really need a gui. >> > Gnome isn't that big. With everything up and running maybe just over 1 >> > gb. >> > or maybe 2 gb. Dunno exactly. >> > >> >> and accessible games that work good with speakup? >> > >> > No! >> > >> > None for a gui anyway. >> > If you want all this stuff with no gui linux probably isn't for you. >> > I actually am trying to get an audio game to run in wine with gnome... >> > >> >> I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and >> > >> > Well no not exactly. >> > Debian etch and lenny I guess... Can be installed with no desktop. >> > And you can always remove gnome from ubuntu I guess. But dunno who >> > would >> > bother. >> > You should probably get a gui as well even through startx so stuff like >> > spreadsheet and word processor work. >> > >> >> stuff. >> > >> > What stuff? >> > >> > -- >> > Daniel Dalton >> > >> > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ >> > d.dalton@iinet.net.au >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I > wonder if He has a full newsfeed? > -- Matt Welsh > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` josh @ ` Steve Holmes ` josh ` Alex Snow ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:58:43PM -0500, josh wrote: > Hi, > > does gnome require more memory than windows xp pro does? No. - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHvOu3WSjv55S0LfERA+CMAKDXxEwzvAguTjUKc+GnoN5MedZgpQCfTi8U bu09ktrcHe4F/So/yxZsTRU= =MpnA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Steve Holmes @ ` josh ` Steve Holmes ` Daniel Dalton 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: josh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. hi, can you be more specific? as in it requires an equal amount? more? or less? email: jkenn337@gmail.com skype: jkenn337 msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:10 PM Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:58:43PM -0500, josh wrote: >> Hi, >> >> does gnome require more memory than windows xp pro does? > > No. > - -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHvOu3WSjv55S0LfERA+CMAKDXxEwzvAguTjUKc+GnoN5MedZgpQCfTi8U > bu09ktrcHe4F/So/yxZsTRU= > =MpnA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` josh @ ` Steve Holmes ` Daniel Dalton ` Daniel Dalton 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Well, I don't know the exact amount each uses. Obviously, if you run a screen reader in MS windows and run a bunch of pigs like Norton system works and other self protection and monitoring programs, that will use a bunch more memory than the guy who strips down his or her windows box and runs virtually barefoot. I'm sure similar for Xwindows and the Gnome desktop. I've never maxed out a machine with either of these environments. I ran XP for over a year with only 512 meg but when I got around totrying out gnome, I was in the process of increasing the memory on my machine to 1 gig but the stuff was on sale for half price so I now have 2 gig. But let me assure you, you don't need 2 gig to run either of these environments. So if you have 1 gb in your box, you would be able to run Windows XP or Gnome with no problems, I'm sure. Someone on list here already said he runs Gnome with 512 so I guess 512 would be ample for both too. I just know from years of experience that the more memory you have (up to a point), the faster things go. I played with the Ubuntu live CD with 512 (before) my memory upgrade and it was rather sluggish.; that's all I know. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:35:02PM -0500, josh wrote: > hi, > can you be more specific? as in it requires an equal amount? more? or less? > > email: jkenn337@gmail.com > skype: jkenn337 > msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:58:43PM -0500, josh wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> does gnome require more memory than windows xp pro does? > > > > No. > > - -- > > HolmesGrown Solutions > > The best solutions for the best price! > > http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFHvOu3WSjv55S0LfERA+CMAKDXxEwzvAguTjUKc+GnoN5MedZgpQCfTi8U > > bu09ktrcHe4F/So/yxZsTRU= > > =MpnA > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHvPc+WSjv55S0LfERAzG6AJ9hylV25pwsJTxRhXnVJovY1X7aOwCgtdo3 R+vweq1ZAsmp8YwNXEL+ZqI= =M/kN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Steve Holmes @ ` Daniel Dalton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dalton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Steve Holmes wrote: > problems, I'm sure. Someone on list here already said he runs Gnome > with 512 so I guess 512 would be ample for both too. I just know from I am also running gnome through startx with 256 mb ram and 800 mhz processor. (p3) -- Daniel Dalton http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ d.dalton@iinet.net.au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` josh ` Steve Holmes @ ` Daniel Dalton ` Alex Snow 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dalton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, josh wrote: > hi, > can you be more specific? as in it requires an equal amount? more? or less? Probably 512 mb to run well. Mine runs ok with 256 though. Can't hurt to install it. If its to slow don't use it. I think windows would need more though. -- Daniel Dalton http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ d.dalton@iinet.net.au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Daniel Dalton @ ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Windows would also run in 256mb...I did this for a while (though this was pre sp2 days) and it worked ok...the system didn't fly, but it wasn't all that painful either. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:34:11PM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, josh wrote: > > > hi, > > can you be more specific? as in it requires an equal amount? more? or less? > > Probably 512 mb to run well. > Mine runs ok with 256 though. > Can't hurt to install it. > If its to slow don't use it. > > I think windows would need more though. > > -- > Daniel Dalton > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > d.dalton@iinet.net.au > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had. -- Linus Torvalds, announcing Linux v2.0 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` josh ` Steve Holmes @ ` Alex Snow ` Gaijin ` Lorenzo Taylor 3 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It's about the same, and far less then Vista. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:58:43PM -0500, josh wrote: > Hi, > > does gnome require more memory than windows xp pro does? > > email: jkenn337@gmail.com > skype: jkenn337 > msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:11 AM > Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup > > > > I'm running it comfortably in 512mb > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:28:58AM > > -0500, josh wrote: > >> How much ram does gnome plus a screen reader take up then? > >> > >> email: jkenn337@gmail.com > >> skype: jkenn337 > >> msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@iinet.net.au> > >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:28 AM > >> Subject: Re: programs that work good with speakup > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, josh wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> Are there any good msn messenger, > >> > > >> > Dunno, think so. > >> > Why not search the repo and try stuff out? > >> > Lots of cli apps will be accessible. Actually most. > >> > Just some better than others. > >> > > >> >> skype > >> > > >> > No. Skype for linux is a qt app I believe. > >> > Or its not gtk or something. > >> > So its not even accessible with orca in a gui. > >> > > >> >> word processor > >> >> spreadsheet > >> > > >> > Come on. If you want this stuff you really need a gui. > >> > Gnome isn't that big. With everything up and running maybe just over 1 > >> > gb. > >> > or maybe 2 gb. Dunno exactly. > >> > > >> >> and accessible games that work good with speakup? > >> > > >> > No! > >> > > >> > None for a gui anyway. > >> > If you want all this stuff with no gui linux probably isn't for you. > >> > I actually am trying to get an audio game to run in wine with gnome... > >> > > >> >> I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and > >> > > >> > Well no not exactly. > >> > Debian etch and lenny I guess... Can be installed with no desktop. > >> > And you can always remove gnome from ubuntu I guess. But dunno who > >> > would > >> > bother. > >> > You should probably get a gui as well even through startx so stuff like > >> > spreadsheet and word processor work. > >> > > >> >> stuff. > >> > > >> > What stuff? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Daniel Dalton > >> > > >> > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > >> > d.dalton@iinet.net.au > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Speakup mailing list > >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I > > wonder if He has a full newsfeed? > > -- Matt Welsh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- We come to bury DOS, not to praise it. -- Paul Vojta, vojta@math.berkeley.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` josh ` Steve Holmes ` Alex Snow @ ` Gaijin ` Lorenzo Taylor 3 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Gaijin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:58:43PM -0500, josh wrote: > does gnome require more memory than windows xp pro does? :End-Quote: I would doubt it. You could always try the LiveCD and check it out without having to install anything, configuring as little as possible to keep some of the unneeded stuff from running. It will all be running in RAM, or it won't. Michael ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` josh ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Gaijin @ ` Lorenzo Taylor 3 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I could be wrong, but I think gnome actually requires less RAM than Windows XP Pro, especially if you were using JAWS or Window Eyes. Live long and prosper, Lorenzo -- Make a change. Make a difference. Obama for America: our time has come! http://www.barackobama.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Daniel Dalton ` josh @ ` Lorenzo Taylor ` Alex Snow 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I actually am trying to get an audio game to run in wine with gnome... I actually got all the Kitchens Inc games working with wine/gnome. They work with wine 0.54 and 0.55. And I don't know if it's a hardy thing or not, since I didn't start using wine until recently because I didn't think it worked as well as it actually does, but installing the Kitchens Inc menu into wine gives you an entry you can access from your applications menu. Applications/Wine/programs/Kitchens Inc/Kitchens Inc Games. Very nice indeed. Now if only I could get the lighttech games working. I get some kind of nasty page fault whenever I try to run the installers. And I think the hardest part is guessing at the installer, since orca doesn't speak Windows apps running via wine and I can't get NVDA running at all to speak them. So running the installers tends to be guesswork. Mail me off list with the game you are trying to get working and I will see if I can make any useful suggestions, since I too like to play games, but I don't like to be tied to Windows and the Windows laptop I kept lying around is now only good for what little parts can actually be swapped out if any. Live long and prosper, Lorenzo -- Make a change. Make a difference. Obama for America: our time has come! http://www.barackobama.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Lorenzo Taylor @ ` Alex Snow ` Lorenzo Taylor 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. How did you configure wine? all the docs I have found for recent versions say to use winecfg, which isn't a gtk2 app On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:35:24PM -0500, Lorenzo Taylor wrote: > ???I actually am trying to get an audio game to run in wine with gnome... > > I actually got all the Kitchens Inc games working with wine/gnome. They > work with wine 0.54 and 0.55. And I don't know if it's a hardy thing or > not, since I didn't start using wine until recently because I didn't > think it worked as well as it actually does, but installing the Kitchens > Inc menu into wine gives you an entry you can access from your > applications menu. Applications/Wine/programs/Kitchens Inc/Kitchens Inc > Games. Very nice indeed. Now if only I could get the lighttech games > working. I get some kind of nasty page fault whenever I try to run the > installers. And I think the hardest part is guessing at the installer, > since orca doesn't speak Windows apps running via wine and I can't get > NVDA running at all to speak them. So running the installers tends to be > guesswork. > > Mail me off list with the game you are trying to get working and I will > see if I can make any useful suggestions, since I too like to play > games, but I don't like to be tied to Windows and the Windows laptop I > kept lying around is now only good for what little parts can actually be > swapped out if any. > > Live long and prosper, > Lorenzo > -- > Make a change. Make a difference. > Obama for America: our time has come! > http://www.barackobama.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- On a normal ascii line, the only safe condition to detect is a 'BREAK' - everything else having been assigned functions by Gnu EMACS. -- Tarl Neustaedter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Alex Snow @ ` Lorenzo Taylor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I didn't use winecfg to configure wine. Somehow I just installed it via aptitude and it just started working. I actually had my daughter's CD-ROM in my computer trying to figure out how I was going to make it work. Of course, Nautilus said it couldn't run the executable file. So I ran sudo aptitude install wine and then when I tried again to run the file it just started working. No fuss, it just worked, which is much better than what I expected. HTH, Lorenzo -- Make a change. Make a difference. Obama for America: our time has come! http://www.barackobama.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup programs that work good with speakup josh ` Daniel Dalton @ ` Ralph W. Reid ` Chris Nestrud 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Ralph W. Reid @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. 'Good' is a relative term, so I will try to point out some possibilities where I might. I do not use IM programs, but some discussions on this topic have come up in the past--maybe something in the archives is findable? I do not use skype--maybe someone else can suggest something. As for the word processor, if you want to process only words (no embedded graphics, etc.), a powerful text editor may handle your needs--perhaps the emacs editor will work for you? I see that the sc spreadsheet calculator program is here on my Slackware system, and it presents a spreadsheet screen in text mode. I have not tinkered with sc for many years--maybe it is worth looking over. As for games, if it is text games you want, some LINUX distributions come with the BSD games set. If you want more, there is the interactive fiction archive site at http://ifarchive.org/ You can compile various programs from this site to play all sorts of text adventure games, and the archive (over 3.1 GB) is available via rsync as follows: mkdir ~/ifarchive rsync -rlptDv --bwlimit=0 --timeout=300 --partial --delete \ ibiblio.org::pub/docs/interactive-fiction/ ~/ifarchive For graphical games you will probably need some sort of GUI. HTH, and have a great day. On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:07:59PM -0500, josh wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any good msn messenger, > skype > word processor > spreadsheet > and accessible games that work good with speakup? > I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and > stuff. > > Josh > > email: jkenn337@gmail.com > skype: jkenn337 > msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com -- Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light... CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Ralph W. Reid @ ` Chris Nestrud ` Daniel Dalton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Chris Nestrud @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I suggest bitlbee and an irc client such as irssi. This will provide access to jabber, AIM, MSN, and a few other services. I believe that it's possible to use the development branch of bitlbee and get support for sending and receiving text Skype messages, but I don't know if the entirety of the setup process is accessible with Speakup. Chris On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:34:20AM -0800, Ralph W. Reid wrote: > 'Good' is a relative term, so I will try to point out some > possibilities where I might. > > I do not use IM programs, but some discussions on this topic have come > up in the past--maybe something in the archives is findable? > > I do not use skype--maybe someone else can suggest something. > > As for the word processor, if you want to process only words (no > embedded graphics, etc.), a powerful text editor may handle your > needs--perhaps the emacs editor will work for you? > > I see that the sc spreadsheet calculator program is here on my > Slackware system, and it presents a spreadsheet screen in text mode. > I have not tinkered with sc for many years--maybe it is worth looking > over. > > As for games, if it is text games you want, some LINUX distributions > come with the BSD games set. If you want more, there is the > interactive fiction archive site at > > http://ifarchive.org/ > > You can compile various programs from this site to play all sorts of > text adventure games, and the archive (over 3.1 GB) is available via > rsync as follows: > > mkdir ~/ifarchive > rsync -rlptDv --bwlimit=0 --timeout=300 --partial --delete \ > ibiblio.org::pub/docs/interactive-fiction/ ~/ifarchive > > For graphical games you will probably need some sort of GUI. > > HTH, and have a great day. > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:07:59PM -0500, josh wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Are there any good msn messenger, > > skype > > word processor > > spreadsheet > > and accessible games that work good with speakup? > > I want to use grml since I hear that gnome takes up lots of memory and > > stuff. > > > > Josh > > > > email: jkenn337@gmail.com > > skype: jkenn337 > > msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com > > -- > Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. > rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid > ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light... > CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Chris Nestrud @ ` Daniel Dalton ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dalton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Chris Nestrud wrote: > I suggest bitlbee and an irc client such as irssi. This will provide > access to jabber, AIM, MSN, and a few other services. I believe that How do I use msn with irssi? Thx, -- Daniel Dalton http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ d.dalton@iinet.net.au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Daniel Dalton @ ` Alex Snow ` Daniel Dalton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. through bitlbee...that's an irc-> IM gateway On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:47:50PM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Chris Nestrud wrote: > > > I suggest bitlbee and an irc client such as irssi. This will provide > > access to jabber, AIM, MSN, and a few other services. I believe that > > How do I use msn with irssi? > > Thx, > > -- > Daniel Dalton > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > d.dalton@iinet.net.au > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system. -- Linus Torvalds ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Alex Snow @ ` Daniel Dalton ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Daniel Dalton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Alex Snow wrote: > through bitlbee...that's an irc-> IM gateway So how do I connect and start chatting? Do I use irssi too? -- Daniel Dalton http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ d.dalton@iinet.net.au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: programs that work good with speakup ` Daniel Dalton @ ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You can use whatever irc client you want to connect to it...have a look at bitlbee.org On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 07:36:53AM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Alex Snow wrote: > > > through bitlbee...that's an irc-> IM gateway > > So how do I connect and start chatting? Do I use irssi too? > > -- > Daniel Dalton > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/ > d.dalton@iinet.net.au > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- seen in someone's .signature ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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