* Re: @ mosh adetoro ` RedHat on network Kirk Wood ` Victor Tsaran 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: mosh adetoro @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii, Size: 287 bytes --] I can't seem to put my red hat liux on our windows nt lan. What do i do? I put in the correct ip settings and all but it still dosn't work! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: RedHat on network mosh adetoro @ ` Kirk Wood ` Victor Tsaran 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Without more detail, there we can't give much detail. But I would start with checking TCP/IP connectivity. Can you ping another workstation on the same subnet (use the ip address)? Can you ping your own workstation? If both of the above work, try pinging by name. There are probably four settings all of which have to be correct to operate in a typical NT environment. The IP address, the subnet mask, the WINS servers, and the DNS servers. If you can ping other stations fine, but not access files, the next place to look is the SAMBA client. But start with the most basic first. If you can't ping, you are not connected correctly. -- Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net ------------------ Seek simplicity -- and distrust it. Alfred North Whitehead ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: mosh adetoro ` RedHat on network Kirk Wood @ ` Victor Tsaran 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Victor Tsaran @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, You certainly need to use the SAMBA server in order to achieve the connectivity between Redhat and WIndows NT machines. To check your connection, follow these steps: 1. Make sure your cables are OK (yes, this hapens sometimes); 2. Ping your own machine to make sure your TCP/IP softwae is working correctly. 3. makes sure that your Linux and NT machines are on the same subnet. If they are not, then you need to set a network route from your Linux subnet to the NT subnet. If resolved, try 4. Ping your gateway for the NT subnet. Make sure you can also reach your machine from NT station. Remember that sometimes packets can go one way, but the gateway might not know which way to get them back; 5. Eventually, set up SAMBA server ( which is a bit of a task! ) and then use nmblookup utility to see any machine on your NT subnet, like nmblookup -A <IP address of an NT workstation> Of course, all of these steps might change based on what type of results you get (negative or positive). As you can see, your initial description wasn't descriptive enough to give you a more precise help! Regards, Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "mosh adetoro" <mosh_she@yahoo.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: Re: > I can't seem to put my red hat liux on our windows nt > lan. What do i do? I put in the correct ip settings > and all but it still dosn't work! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* (no subject) @ Anthony Creapeau ` Chris Norman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Anthony Creapeau @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup How do I Migrate from windows to Linux? I'm using Windows now but I really want to move to a blind accessible version of Linux. I've downloaded Knoppix_speakup and oralux but can not get knoppix to talk and do not want to learn the complicated commands of oralux. How can I get knoppix to talk and what version of ubuntu or debian will talk right from the start? I'd really like to move to Linux but I've had no luck so far. I'd really appreciate feedback. Anthony Creapeau Management Information Systems Milwaukee School of Engineering voice mail: (414 418-1599 email: creapeaa@msoe.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Anthony Creapeau @ ` Chris Norman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Chris Norman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. That's a really difficult question to answer to be fair LOL. I went from windows to using FC4 via SSH, then i got software speech working on FC4, now I use primarily Ubuntu, and FC6 when I can get it working. But Ubuntu is by fair the easiest. If you need help with anything privately, although I'm not the best person to ask, I'm more than happy to help you out as much as I can (over MSN if it's easier). Cheers, and HTH a bit, Chris Norman <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Creapeau" <creapeaa@msoe.edu> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 6:44 AM > How do I Migrate from windows to Linux? I'm using Windows now but I > really want to move to a blind accessible version of Linux. I've > downloaded > Knoppix_speakup and oralux but can not get knoppix to talk and do not want > to learn the complicated commands of oralux. How can I get knoppix to talk > and what version of ubuntu or debian will talk right from the start? I'd > really like to move to Linux but I've had no luck so far. I'd really > appreciate feedback. > > Anthony Creapeau > Management Information Systems > Milwaukee School of Engineering > voice mail: (414 418-1599 > email: creapeaa@msoe.edu > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* (no subject) @ Barry Hadder ` Littlefield, Tyler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Barry Hadder @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup unsubscribe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Barry Hadder @ ` Littlefield, Tyler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. That doesn't work, at least not to this address. visit http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup On 6/12/2011 11:00 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Take care, Ty my website: http://tds-solutions.net my blog: http://tds-solutions.net/blog skype: st8amnd127 My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* (no subject) @ acollins ` Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: acollins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Tony. To a certain extent, you are right. But while being able to read and write properly, and have good gramar is important, I would argue that the misperceptions, and misunderstandings about blindness are the larger problem. Most sighted folks just don't have a clue about what is possible for a blind person, and because they can't conceive of how a blind person functions through out his daily life, they aren't willing to give a blind person a chance. Saddly, I've experienced enough of this kind of behavior to know that what I say is true. A successful blind person always has to try a bit harder, and make a better impression than his sighted counterparts. I'm not crying in my beer, just expressing the facts. Blind folks who allow themselves to feel sorry for themselves, just won't cut it, and there are a lot of them out there. Saddly, like thesong says, "That's just the way it is." Gene ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: acollins @ ` Tony Baechler ` Re: John G. Heim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I agree. John on this list has his own story of how he got hired by the math department of the University of Wisconsin. However, it makes a lot better case if the blind person can read and write. Let's take an average sighted person. I suppose there are exceptions nowadays, but I can't imagine an employer hiring that average sighted person if they don't have literacy. For one thing, how would they fill out the job application? The blind person's solution would either be a sighted reader or a scanner, but I would guess that most employers would find it rather strange if a sighted person brought their reader with them and explained that they can't read print. I do agree with you completely that the blind person needs to try harder and has more to overcome, but I still think that literacy has a lot to do with it, regardless of being blind. Nowadays, most jobs require at least a college degree and I don't see how a sighted person would get one if they can't read. Granted, reading Braille isn't the same as reading print, but at least the blind person can show the ability to take notes, phone messages, etc. In the computer industry, I've heard that it's a lot easier to do programming with a Braille display, but I don't have one and I'm not a programmer. On 4/9/2013 11:18 AM, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: > Hi Tony. To a certain extent, you are right. But while being able to > read and write properly, and have good gramar is important, I would > argue that the misperceptions, and misunderstandings about blindness > are the larger problem. > > Most sighted folks just don't have a clue about what is possible for a > blind person, and because they can't conceive of how a blind person > functions through out his daily life, they aren't willing to give a > blind person a chance. Saddly, I've experienced enough of this kind of > behavior to know that what I say is true. > > A successful blind person always has to try a bit harder, and make a > better impression than his sighted counterparts. I'm not crying in my > beer, just expressing the facts. Blind folks who allow themselves to > feel sorry for themselves, just won't cut it, and there are a lot of > them out there. Saddly, like thesong says, "That's just the way it is." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: ` Tony Baechler @ ` John G. Heim ` Re: Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: John G. Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Oh, yeah, I believe you are talking about the time I went to a job interview and I already had like 20 years of experience in systems administration and programming. All this was on my resume, of course, but when the woman who was going to interview me saw that I am blind, she flatly refused to interview me at first. She wouldn't believe a blind person can use a computer. I had to convince her that the stuff on my resume was real. She went ahead with the interview but she clearly didn't believe a word I was saying. I sure wish I had had the presence of mind to let her send me away. Then I could have sued her dumb a**. I don't think there should be any question that prejudice is a far bigger factor than anything blind people bring upon themselves. I mean, I look back at my co-workers over the years and there is no way they are any better than many of the unemployed blind technologists I know. Here's the deal... Blind people never get to skate by. Blind people never have things just handed to them. Blind people can't just show up for work every day, put in their 8 hours, go home, and expect to keep doing that for 20 or 30 years. You have to fight for every new assignment, every promotion, every raise you get. You might be thinking, "Well, everyone has to do that." Yeah, sort of. But the difference in degree is so great that it's astonishing. Keep your eyes open and you will see. The vast majority of people skate by. They just pretty much show up for work every day. The economy takes a downturn and they get layed off. But eventually, they find another job. A blind person has to fight for everything he gets. I am well aware that a lot of blind people just need a good kick in the butt. But if that was all it took to be unemployed, the whole world's unemployment rate would be around 80%. I'm not whining. None of this really applies to me. I've never been unemployed for a single day since I got my first job after college. I started each new job literally the day after I left my previous job. In fact, I feel extremely lucky that I happen to be so good at making computers work. I didn't do anything to deserve that. I have worked very hard and I've been smart managing my career. But what if I wasn't good at computers? Where would I be? I don't know. But I do know a lot of sighted people who aren't particularly well motivated, not particularly good with computers, and who have never had a problem finding a job. I don't know any blind people like that. If you're blind, you have to be very good and very motivated or you are probably going to be unemployed. Note that I said *probably*. I know some blind people skate by. But like I said, its a matter of degree and that difference is huge. On 04/10/2013 03:20 AM, Tony Baechler wrote: > I agree. John on this list has his own story of how he got hired by the > math department of the University of Wisconsin. However, it makes a lot > better case if the blind person can read and write. Let's take an > average sighted person. I suppose there are exceptions nowadays, but I > can't imagine an employer hiring that average sighted person if they > don't have literacy. For one thing, how would they fill out the job > application? The blind person's solution would either be a sighted > reader or a scanner, but I would guess that most employers would find it > rather strange if a sighted person brought their reader with them and > explained that they can't read print. I do agree with you completely > that the blind person needs to try harder and has more to overcome, but > I still think that literacy has a lot to do with it, regardless of being > blind. Nowadays, most jobs require at least a college degree and I > don't see how a sighted person would get one if they can't read. > Granted, reading Braille isn't the same as reading print, but at least > the blind person can show the ability to take notes, phone messages, > etc. In the computer industry, I've heard that it's a lot easier to do > programming with a Braille display, but I don't have one and I'm not a > programmer. > > On 4/9/2013 11:18 AM, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: >> Hi Tony. To a certain extent, you are right. But while being able to >> read and write properly, and have good gramar is important, I would >> argue that the misperceptions, and misunderstandings about blindness >> are the larger problem. >> >> Most sighted folks just don't have a clue about what is possible for a >> blind person, and because they can't conceive of how a blind person >> functions through out his daily life, they aren't willing to give a >> blind person a chance. Saddly, I've experienced enough of this kind of >> behavior to know that what I say is true. >> >> A successful blind person always has to try a bit harder, and make a >> better impression than his sighted counterparts. I'm not crying in my >> beer, just expressing the facts. Blind folks who allow themselves to >> feel sorry for themselves, just won't cut it, and there are a lot of >> them out there. Saddly, like thesong says, "That's just the way it is." > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: ` Re: John G. Heim @ ` Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Actually, I was talking about how you brought your own laptop with you with a server already running on it so you could prove that you knew what you were doing. I don't remember the exact details, but you posted on a list (acb-l?) a while ago about how you got hired once they could access the server running on your laptop and could see that you were able to set up servers and knew how to make computers work. On 4/10/2013 7:24 AM, John G. Heim wrote: > > > Oh, yeah, I believe you are talking about the time I went to a job interview > and I already had like 20 years of experience in systems administration and > programming. All this was on my resume, of course, but when the woman who > was going to interview me saw that I am blind, she flatly refused to > interview me at first. She wouldn't believe a blind person can use a > computer. I had to convince her that the stuff on my resume was real. She > went ahead with the interview but she clearly didn't believe a word I was > saying. I sure wish I had had the presence of mind to let her send me away. > Then I could have sued her dumb a**. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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