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* Speech dispatcher again
@  jim grimsby
   ` Kirk Reiser
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: jim grimsby @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speak Up Mailing List

Hi, I just install the hole distro again sarge.  Install speech
dispatcher install festival  installed the dectalk 5.0 software.  Still
the same problem with a fresh installed changed nothing but the default
module from flite to dtk-generic 
Still no dice.  Could my problem be that I am running an on board sound
card?  The say -a command works for the dectalk festival shows it is
working using it's test command. Flite works both ways.  Using its own
test and using spd-say.  
Tanks 




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* Re: Speech dispatcher again
   Speech dispatcher again jim grimsby
@  ` Kirk Reiser
     ` Luke Yelavich
   ` Janina Sajka
   ` Sean McMahon
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Reiser @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

I may not be helpful here because it has been a long time since I used
soft dec but I think you need to have a symlink from
/usr/local/bin/say to /usr/bin/dtk-say.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061


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* Re: Speech dispatcher again
   ` Kirk Reiser
@    ` Luke Yelavich
       ` jim grimsby
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Luke Yelavich @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:28:52PM EST, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> I may not be helpful here because it has been a long time since I used
> soft dec but I think you need to have a symlink from
> /usr/local/bin/say to /usr/bin/dtk-say.

This is not the case, with recent versions at least. However what I do, 
is edit my /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/dtk-generic.conf file and add 
the absolute path to the execution string. So I have the following:

GenericExecuteSynth \
"echo \"[:n$VOICE][:ra $RATE][:dv ap $PITCH]\" >/tmp/dtk-speak.txt \
&& echo \"$DATA\" | fmt >>/tmp/dtk-speak.txt && /usr/local/bin/say -fi 
/tmp/dtk-speak.txt"
- -- 
Luke

Get my public GPG key here: http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt
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* Re: Speech dispatcher again
   Speech dispatcher again jim grimsby
   ` Kirk Reiser
@  ` Janina Sajka
   ` Sean McMahon
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

There are precious few issues on LInux that would be helped by a
complete reinstall. I think you bring this approach with you from
another OS you've been using in the past?

As for sound cards, there's far too much variety in them, and far too
much still unsettled around how they're managed in software to make it
easy to resolve these kinds of issues. This is most certainly
unfortunate, but I do believe it is true today.

jim grimsby writes:
> Hi, I just install the hole distro again sarge.  Install speech
> dispatcher install festival  installed the dectalk 5.0 software.  Still
> the same problem with a fresh installed changed nothing but the default
> module from flite to dtk-generic 
> Still no dice.  Could my problem be that I am running an on board sound
> card?  The say -a command works for the dectalk festival shows it is
> working using it's test command. Flite works both ways.  Using its own
> test and using spd-say.  
> Tanks 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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* Re: Speech dispatcher again
   Speech dispatcher again jim grimsby
   ` Kirk Reiser
   ` Janina Sajka
@  ` Sean McMahon
     ` jim grimsby
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Sean McMahon @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Wait a second, isn't the command to run speech-dispatcher spd-say?  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
To: "Speak Up Mailing List" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Speech dispatcher again


> Hi, I just install the hole distro again sarge.  Install speech
> dispatcher install festival  installed the dectalk 5.0 software.  Still
> the same problem with a fresh installed changed nothing but the default
> module from flite to dtk-generic 
> Still no dice.  Could my problem be that I am running an on board sound
> card?  The say -a command works for the dectalk festival shows it is
> working using it's test command. Flite works both ways.  Using its own
> test and using spd-say.  
> Tanks 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* RE: Speech dispatcher again
   ` Sean McMahon
@    ` jim grimsby
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: jim grimsby @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Sean McMahon',
	'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Yes spd-say is the command to use to send text threw speech-dispatcher.
Say -a " " is the command to use to send text to the dectalk and is how
speech-dispatcher sennds commands to it.  Flite and festival have there
own commands also.  You can address any loaded modual threw
speech-dispatcher like this spd-say -o flite "testing again"  replace
"testing again" with what ever text you want  speech-dispatcher to send
to the requested software module.  Remember you can only send out put to
modules that you have loaded.  In the speech-dispatcher configuration
file.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:11 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speech dispatcher again


Wait a second, isn't the command to run speech-dispatcher spd-say?  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
To: "Speak Up Mailing List" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Speech dispatcher again


> Hi, I just install the hole distro again sarge.  Install speech 
> dispatcher install festival  installed the dectalk 5.0 software.  
> Still the same problem with a fresh installed changed nothing but the 
> default module from flite to dtk-generic Still no dice.  Could my 
> problem be that I am running an on board sound card?  The say -a 
> command works for the dectalk festival shows it is working using it's 
> test command. Flite works both ways.  Using its own test and using 
> spd-say.
> Tanks 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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* RE: Speech dispatcher again
     ` Luke Yelavich
@      ` jim grimsby
         ` jim grimsby
         ` Chuck Hallenbeck
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: jim grimsby @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Hi, thank you very much for what ever reason giving it the full path ran
the thing finally.  Now how  come I had to do it this way when it worked
fine with out the full path from the command line.  Go figure.   Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Luke Yelavich
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:13 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Speech dispatcher again


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On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:28:52PM EST, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> I may not be helpful here because it has been a long time since I used

> soft dec but I think you need to have a symlink from 
> /usr/local/bin/say to /usr/bin/dtk-say.

This is not the case, with recent versions at least. However what I do, 
is edit my /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/dtk-generic.conf file and add 
the absolute path to the execution string. So I have the following:

GenericExecuteSynth \
"echo \"[:n$VOICE][:ra $RATE][:dv ap $PITCH]\" >/tmp/dtk-speak.txt \ &&
echo \"$DATA\" | fmt >>/tmp/dtk-speak.txt && /usr/local/bin/say -fi 
/tmp/dtk-speak.txt"
- -- 
Luke

Get my public GPG key here: http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt
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* RE: Speech dispatcher again
       ` jim grimsby
@        ` jim grimsby
         ` Chuck Hallenbeck
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: jim grimsby @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Ok hi, here is another fun one for you all.  DefaultModule  dtk-generic 
All other out put modules are remarked out.  And guess what I have to
issue the command like this to get speech from the dectalk 
Spd-say -o dtk-generic "dectalk software 5.0 is running. Using the pall
voice." it accepts all my default pitchis rate etc.  But I still have to
force the output module.  Thanks.  This is getting strange but one pluss
side I am getting real good at editing config files.  It is very ill
wind indeed that does not blow some good!

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of jim grimsby
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:56 PM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: Speech dispatcher again


Hi, thank you very much for what ever reason giving it the full path ran
the thing finally.  Now how  come I had to do it this way when it worked
fine with out the full path from the command line.  Go figure.   Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Luke Yelavich
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:13 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Speech dispatcher again


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On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:28:52PM EST, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> I may not be helpful here because it has been a long time since I used

> soft dec but I think you need to have a symlink from
> /usr/local/bin/say to /usr/bin/dtk-say.

This is not the case, with recent versions at least. However what I do, 
is edit my /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/dtk-generic.conf file and add 
the absolute path to the execution string. So I have the following:

GenericExecuteSynth \
"echo \"[:n$VOICE][:ra $RATE][:dv ap $PITCH]\" >/tmp/dtk-speak.txt \ &&
echo \"$DATA\" | fmt >>/tmp/dtk-speak.txt && /usr/local/bin/say -fi 
/tmp/dtk-speak.txt"
- -- 
Luke

Get my public GPG key here: http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt
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* RE: Speech dispatcher again
       ` jim grimsby
         ` jim grimsby
@        ` Chuck Hallenbeck
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Chuck Hallenbeck @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.


Jim,

Your problem with speechdispatcher has been caused by your execution
path being incompletely set at the time you invoked it. Typically, the
directory /usr/local/bin is not added to the execution path until a
login is completed. That means that your bootup scripts will never look
there for things they need, unless specifically asked to. If you run
speechdispatcher from within a bootup script, such as /etc/rc.d/rc.local,
it will appear to run okay, but will not have the foggiest idea where to
find the "say" command that has been put in /usr/local/bin.

There are two solutions:

1. The poor one: Modify your configuration file to add the exact path to
the "say" command where it is invoked. You did that, it worked, hurray!

but 2: The better one: Add the /usr/local/bin directory to the execution
path just before the speechdispatcher program is invoked, like this:

export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH
nice -n -5 speechdispatcher

That will also work, and will allow you to use the speechdispatcher
dtk-generic.conf file without doctoring it up. It makes upgrading easier
in the future.

But both methods work fine.

Chuck

BTW: You can obtain a script called "speakwith" that allows you to
change synthesizers on the fly by typing as root such commands as these:

speakwith sftsyn
speakwith ltlk
speakwith bns

and so on. The script explains about the path problem in comment
statements. It can be had from:

http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh/speakwith

HTH




On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, jim grimsby wrote:

> Hi, thank you very much for what ever reason giving it the full path ran
> the thing finally.  Now how  come I had to do it this way when it worked
> fine with out the full path from the command line.  Go figure.   Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Luke Yelavich
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:13 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Speech dispatcher again
>
>
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>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:28:52PM EST, Kirk Reiser wrote:
>> I may not be helpful here because it has been a long time since I used
>
>> soft dec but I think you need to have a symlink from
>> /usr/local/bin/say to /usr/bin/dtk-say.
>
> This is not the case, with recent versions at least. However what I do,
> is edit my /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/dtk-generic.conf file and add
> the absolute path to the execution string. So I have the following:
>
> GenericExecuteSynth \
> "echo \"[:n$VOICE][:ra $RATE][:dv ap $PITCH]\" >/tmp/dtk-speak.txt \ &&
> echo \"$DATA\" | fmt >>/tmp/dtk-speak.txt && /usr/local/bin/say -fi
> /tmp/dtk-speak.txt"
> - --
> Luke
>
> Get my public GPG key here: http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt
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>
>
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>

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* Re: speech dispatcher again
                     ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
@                      ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

You will need to point it at the swift binary, you probably will want to 
setup the values for rate, pitch, volume and remove any references to 
parameters not used from the line that states the command to be issued, e.g. 
you will not want the parameter for voice on that line. There may be other 
lines you need to alter, I don't know how dectalk refers to rate, but 
cepstral does it in words per minute, so you may want to change the lines 
related to the conversion from speech-dispatcher values to synth values. I 
cannot say more than this without trying to do it myself.
From
Mike
"An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again


Hello!
ok, I'll try to make a cepstral module then.

do I need all values in the.conf file or is it enough to point it to the
swift binary?
I don't need to change voices. I only have one.

Also, I got so angry with the festival support speech-dispatcher has so
I'll do something about that to.
guess what I'm planning to do.
/kristoffer
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:01:30 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
<Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> Hello,
> That dtk-generic.conf file is the one I was meaning to modify. This file
> uses the generic system for speech-dispatcher. This file points the
> generic
> interface for speech-dispatcher to the dectalk binary, and defines the
> parameters for voice, rate, etc. to modify this change the dectalk binary
> to
> the cepstral one (I think it is swift you would use here), and alter the
> parameters to match those for cepstral. This includes altering the
> conversion from the speech-dispatcher values to something suitable for
> cepstral. As I have mentioned this file seems to be well commented, and
> if I
> was to sit down and do it, the time would probably be taken up more by
> gathering the information for cepstral and entering it into the file than
> understanding the file. this is just a configuration file, not a C or C++
> program.
> From
> Mike
> "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again
>
>
> Hello!
> ok, shall we have a contest?
> I mean see who gets his cepstral module file ready first?
> You will be busy with your things, and I wll defenitely be busy with
> learning how to make a module.
>
> Where is that generic module then?
> The nearest I have found is dtk-generic.conf.
> Do you mean that I can modify that module even though it points to a
> dectalk binary?
>
> /kristoffer
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:53:10 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
> <Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> > Remove the voice by deleting the directory containing that voice. e.g. 
> > to
> > remove ked_diphone, if you enter the festival voices directory, and then
> > go
> > into the english directory, you will find a list of installed english
> > voices. Assuming you are within the english directory you would enter rm
> > -r
> > /ked_diphone on a command line.
> > From
> > Mike
> > "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again
> >
> >
> > Hello!
> > If I would like to remove a voice is it enough to just delete the voice
> > directory in festival?
> > I did that because I didn't want ked_diphone.
> > I didn't like him.
> > is this the way it shall be done?
> > /kristoffer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> Kristoffer Gustafsson
> Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
> 51453 Månstad
> Telefon: 0325 42093
> Mobil: 073-822 64 73
> E-post:
> skeeter@allmail.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
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* Re: speech dispatcher again
                   ` Michael Whapples
@                    ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
                       ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kristoffer Gustafsson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello!
ok, I'll try to make a cepstral module then.

do I need all values in the.conf file or is it enough to point it to the
swift binary?
I don't need to change voices. I only have one.

Also, I got so angry with the festival support speech-dispatcher has so
I'll do something about that to.
guess what I'm planning to do.
/kristoffer
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:01:30 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
<Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> Hello,
> That dtk-generic.conf file is the one I was meaning to modify. This file 
> uses the generic system for speech-dispatcher. This file points the
> generic 
> interface for speech-dispatcher to the dectalk binary, and defines the 
> parameters for voice, rate, etc. to modify this change the dectalk binary
> to 
> the cepstral one (I think it is swift you would use here), and alter the 
> parameters to match those for cepstral. This includes altering the 
> conversion from the speech-dispatcher values to something suitable for 
> cepstral. As I have mentioned this file seems to be well commented, and
> if I 
> was to sit down and do it, the time would probably be taken up more by 
> gathering the information for cepstral and entering it into the file than 
> understanding the file. this is just a configuration file, not a C or C++ 
> program.
> From
> Mike
> "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again
> 
> 
> Hello!
> ok, shall we have a contest?
> I mean see who gets his cepstral module file ready first?
> You will be busy with your things, and I wll defenitely be busy with
> learning how to make a module.
> 
> Where is that generic module then?
> The nearest I have found is dtk-generic.conf.
> Do you mean that I can modify that module even though it points to a
> dectalk binary?
> 
> /kristoffer
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:53:10 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
> <Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> > Remove the voice by deleting the directory containing that voice. e.g. to
> > remove ked_diphone, if you enter the festival voices directory, and then
> > go
> > into the english directory, you will find a list of installed english
> > voices. Assuming you are within the english directory you would enter rm
> > -r
> > /ked_diphone on a command line.
> > From
> > Mike
> > "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again
> >
> >
> > Hello!
> > If I would like to remove a voice is it enough to just delete the voice
> > directory in festival?
> > I did that because I didn't want ked_diphone.
> > I didn't like him.
> > is this the way it shall be done?
> > /kristoffer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> Kristoffer Gustafsson
> Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
> 51453 Månstad
> Telefon: 0325 42093
> Mobil: 073-822 64 73
> E-post:
> skeeter@allmail.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
 Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net 



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* Re: speech dispatcher again
                 ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
@                  ` Michael Whapples
                     ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello,
That dtk-generic.conf file is the one I was meaning to modify. This file 
uses the generic system for speech-dispatcher. This file points the generic 
interface for speech-dispatcher to the dectalk binary, and defines the 
parameters for voice, rate, etc. to modify this change the dectalk binary to 
the cepstral one (I think it is swift you would use here), and alter the 
parameters to match those for cepstral. This includes altering the 
conversion from the speech-dispatcher values to something suitable for 
cepstral. As I have mentioned this file seems to be well commented, and if I 
was to sit down and do it, the time would probably be taken up more by 
gathering the information for cepstral and entering it into the file than 
understanding the file. this is just a configuration file, not a C or C++ 
program.
From
Mike
"An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again


Hello!
ok, shall we have a contest?
I mean see who gets his cepstral module file ready first?
You will be busy with your things, and I wll defenitely be busy with
learning how to make a module.

Where is that generic module then?
The nearest I have found is dtk-generic.conf.
Do you mean that I can modify that module even though it points to a
dectalk binary?

/kristoffer
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:53:10 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
<Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> Remove the voice by deleting the directory containing that voice. e.g. to
> remove ked_diphone, if you enter the festival voices directory, and then
> go
> into the english directory, you will find a list of installed english
> voices. Assuming you are within the english directory you would enter rm
> -r
> /ked_diphone on a command line.
> From
> Mike
> "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again
>
>
> Hello!
> If I would like to remove a voice is it enough to just delete the voice
> directory in festival?
> I did that because I didn't want ked_diphone.
> I didn't like him.
> is this the way it shall be done?
> /kristoffer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net


_______________________________________________
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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* Re: speech dispatcher again
               ` Michael Whapples
@                ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
                   ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kristoffer Gustafsson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello!
ok, shall we have a contest?
I mean see who gets his cepstral module file ready first?
You will be busy with your things, and I wll defenitely be busy with
learning how to make a module.

Where is that generic module then?
The nearest I have found is dtk-generic.conf.
Do you mean that I can modify that module even though it points to a
dectalk binary?

/kristoffer
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:53:10 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
<Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> Remove the voice by deleting the directory containing that voice. e.g. to 
> remove ked_diphone, if you enter the festival voices directory, and then
> go 
> into the english directory, you will find a list of installed english 
> voices. Assuming you are within the english directory you would enter rm
> -r 
> /ked_diphone on a command line.
> From
> Mike
> "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again
> 
> 
> Hello!
> If I would like to remove a voice is it enough to just delete the voice
> directory in festival?
> I did that because I didn't want ked_diphone.
> I didn't like him.
> is this the way it shall be done?
> /kristoffer
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
 Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net 



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* Re: speech dispatcher again
             ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
@              ` Michael Whapples
                 ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Remove the voice by deleting the directory containing that voice. e.g. to 
remove ked_diphone, if you enter the festival voices directory, and then go 
into the english directory, you will find a list of installed english 
voices. Assuming you are within the english directory you would enter rm -r 
/ked_diphone on a command line.
From
Mike
"An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again


Hello!
If I would like to remove a voice is it enough to just delete the voice
directory in festival?
I did that because I didn't want ked_diphone.
I didn't like him.
is this the way it shall be done?
/kristoffer


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread

* Re: speech dispatcher again
           ` Michael Whapples
@            ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
               ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kristoffer Gustafsson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello!
If I would like to remove a voice is it enough to just delete the voice
directory in festival?
I did that because I didn't want ked_diphone.
I didn't like him.
is this the way it shall be done?
/kristoffer
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:39:03 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
<Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> I don't know about the problem with using cepstral as a festival voice.
> As I 
> said, speechd-up only can access the first three festival voices. Let's
> say 
> you had don_diphone, kal_diphone, ked_diphone and rab_diphone voices 
> installed, speechd-up can only access don_diphone, kal_diphone and 
> ked_diphone. You would not be able to access rab_diphone without removing 
> one of the voices before it e.g. don_diphone.
> 
> when I referred to writing a module for the cepstral voices, I meant
> taking 
> the generic one, and altering the configuration file, like it has been
> done 
> for using dectalk software synth. This would not require any knowledge of
> C 
> or C++. I am considering trying to do this for myself, so if I do it, I 
> could let you have the file. I don't know when I will manage to do this,
> I 
> am quite busy at the moment.
> From
> Mike
> "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again
> 
> 
> Hello!
> I'm not very good in c or c++ so I don't think that writing a module is
> something for me.
> 
> Cepstral voices do work with festival. I've tried it.
> My cepstral voice (david) works  in a test with speech dispatcher, the
> general.test. when setting another language.
> It tries to speak french, but it doesn't sound good.
> 
> so the voice is accessible in some way through dispatcher, but not with
> speechd_up.
> 
> what can be wrong?
> /kristoffer
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:44:42 +0000, "Michael Whapples"
> <mikster4@msn.com> said:
> > I haven't heard of using cepstral voices as a festival voice, but
> > I don't know all about festival. I have had some problems with
> > speech-dispatcher accessing some festival voices before although
> > festival can access them. You may find that it might be easier to
> > write a speech-dispatcher module for cepstral using the generic one as a
> > guide. they seem to be fairly well commented. to get the information for
> > the
> > parameters that you would need, view the output from swift --params.
> > from
> > Mike
> > Kristoffer Gustafsson writes:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > > Thanks, it works with changing the voices.
> > > now to my next problem.
> > > I can't seem to get the voice I want to use work with speakup.
> > > The voice I want is the cepstral david voice I have installed as well.
> > > It works as a festival voice.
> > >
> > > I removed the us2_mbrola voice since i have ked_diphone and kal_diphone
> > > as default voices when installing a festival binary.
> > > but I can't get cepstral to work.
> > > any ideas?
> > > /kristoffer
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> Kristoffer Gustafsson
> Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
> 51453 Månstad
> Telefon: 0325 42093
> Mobil: 073-822 64 73
> E-post:
> skeeter@allmail.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
 Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net 



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* Re: speech dispatcher again
         ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
@          ` Michael Whapples
             ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

I don't know about the problem with using cepstral as a festival voice. As I 
said, speechd-up only can access the first three festival voices. Let's say 
you had don_diphone, kal_diphone, ked_diphone and rab_diphone voices 
installed, speechd-up can only access don_diphone, kal_diphone and 
ked_diphone. You would not be able to access rab_diphone without removing 
one of the voices before it e.g. don_diphone.

when I referred to writing a module for the cepstral voices, I meant taking 
the generic one, and altering the configuration file, like it has been done 
for using dectalk software synth. This would not require any knowledge of C 
or C++. I am considering trying to do this for myself, so if I do it, I 
could let you have the file. I don't know when I will manage to do this, I 
am quite busy at the moment.
From
Mike
"An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: speech dispatcher again


Hello!
I'm not very good in c or c++ so I don't think that writing a module is
something for me.

Cepstral voices do work with festival. I've tried it.
My cepstral voice (david) works  in a test with speech dispatcher, the
general.test. when setting another language.
It tries to speak french, but it doesn't sound good.

so the voice is accessible in some way through dispatcher, but not with
speechd_up.

what can be wrong?
/kristoffer
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:44:42 +0000, "Michael Whapples"
<mikster4@msn.com> said:
> I haven't heard of using cepstral voices as a festival voice, but
> I don't know all about festival. I have had some problems with
> speech-dispatcher accessing some festival voices before although
> festival can access them. You may find that it might be easier to
> write a speech-dispatcher module for cepstral using the generic one as a
> guide. they seem to be fairly well commented. to get the information for
> the
> parameters that you would need, view the output from swift --params.
> from
> Mike
> Kristoffer Gustafsson writes:
>
> > Hello!
> > Thanks, it works with changing the voices.
> > now to my next problem.
> > I can't seem to get the voice I want to use work with speakup.
> > The voice I want is the cepstral david voice I have installed as well.
> > It works as a festival voice.
> >
> > I removed the us2_mbrola voice since i have ked_diphone and kal_diphone
> > as default voices when installing a festival binary.
> > but I can't get cepstral to work.
> > any ideas?
> > /kristoffer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* Re: speech dispatcher again
       ` Michael Whapples
@        ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
           ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kristoffer Gustafsson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello!
I'm not very good in c or c++ so I don't think that writing a module is
something for me.

Cepstral voices do work with festival. I've tried it.
My cepstral voice (david) works  in a test with speech dispatcher, the
general.test. when setting another language.
It tries to speak french, but it doesn't sound good.

so the voice is accessible in some way through dispatcher, but not with
speechd_up.

what can be wrong?
/kristoffer
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:44:42 +0000, "Michael Whapples"
<mikster4@msn.com> said:
> I haven't heard of using cepstral voices as a festival voice, but 
> I don't know all about festival. I have had some problems with 
> speech-dispatcher accessing some festival voices before although 
> festival can access them. You may find that it might be easier to 
> write a speech-dispatcher module for cepstral using the generic one as a 
> guide. they seem to be fairly well commented. to get the information for
> the 
> parameters that you would need, view the output from swift --params. 
> from
> Mike
> Kristoffer Gustafsson writes:
> 
> > Hello!
> > Thanks, it works with changing the voices.
> > now to my next problem.
> > I can't seem to get the voice I want to use work with speakup.
> > The voice I want is the cepstral david voice I have installed as well.
> > It works as a festival voice.
> > 
> > I removed the us2_mbrola voice since i have ked_diphone and kal_diphone
> > as default voices when installing a festival binary.
> > but I can't get cepstral to work.
> > any ideas?
> > /kristoffer
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
 Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net 



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* Re: speech dispatcher again
     ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
@      ` Michael Whapples
         ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

I haven't heard of using cepstral voices as a festival voice, but 
I don't know all about festival. I have had some problems with 
speech-dispatcher accessing some festival voices before although 
festival can access them. You may find that it might be easier to 
write a speech-dispatcher module for cepstral using the generic one as a 
guide. they seem to be fairly well commented. to get the information for the 
parameters that you would need, view the output from swift --params. 
from
Mike
Kristoffer Gustafsson writes:

> Hello!
> Thanks, it works with changing the voices.
> now to my next problem.
> I can't seem to get the voice I want to use work with speakup.
> The voice I want is the cepstral david voice I have installed as well.
> It works as a festival voice.
> 
> I removed the us2_mbrola voice since i have ked_diphone and kal_diphone
> as default voices when installing a festival binary.
> but I can't get cepstral to work.
> any ideas?
> /kristoffer
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread

* Re: speech dispatcher again
   ` Michael Whapples
@    ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
       ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kristoffer Gustafsson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello!
Thanks, it works with changing the voices.
now to my next problem.
I can't seem to get the voice I want to use work with speakup.
The voice I want is the cepstral david voice I have installed as well.
It works as a festival voice.

I removed the us2_mbrola voice since i have ked_diphone and kal_diphone
as default voices when installing a festival binary.
but I can't get cepstral to work.
any ideas?
/kristoffer
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:33:03 +0100, "Michael Whapples"
<Mikster4@msn.com> said:
> If you are using speech-dispatcher with speechdup, then you just change
> the 
> voice in speakup as usual by changing the value of /proc/speakup/voice. I 
> have found that speakup can only access three different voices in
> festival, 
> so you may find it useful to only install the voices you want for
> festival.
> Mike
> "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:52 AM
> Subject: speech dispatcher again
> 
> 
> Hello!
> ok, now dispatcher speaks fine, just one more problem.
> How do I get it to select another default voice than kal16 when using
> festival?
> thanks
> /kristoffer
> Kristoffer Gustafsson
> Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
> 51453 Månstad
> Telefon: 0325 42093
> Mobil: 073-822 64 73
> E-post:
> skeeter@allmail.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
 Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net 



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* Re: speech dispatcher again
   speech " Kristoffer Gustafsson
@  ` Michael Whapples
     ` Kristoffer Gustafsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

If you are using speech-dispatcher with speechdup, then you just change the 
voice in speakup as usual by changing the value of /proc/speakup/voice. I 
have found that speakup can only access three different voices in festival, 
so you may find it useful to only install the voices you want for festival.
Mike
"An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kristoffer Gustafsson" <skeeter@allmail.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: speech dispatcher again


Hello!
ok, now dispatcher speaks fine, just one more problem.
How do I get it to select another default voice than kal16 when using
festival?
thanks
/kristoffer
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* speech dispatcher again
@  Kristoffer Gustafsson
   ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kristoffer Gustafsson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hello!
ok, now dispatcher speaks fine, just one more problem.
How do I get it to select another default voice than kal16 when using
festival?
thanks
/kristoffer
 Kristoffer Gustafsson
Solsäter Månstadsvägen 3
51453 Månstad
Telefon: 0325 42093
Mobil: 073-822 64 73
E-post:
skeeter@allmail.net 



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