* Installing Fedora - boot loader @ Kenneth Lee ` David Bruzos 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello all, I've been trying all weekend to get Phedora installed. This is my first time to install any kind of Linux and well... It's not going well. I've been reading the howto's I found on linux-speakup.org but the description in the howto do not match with the screens I'm getting. The howto says nothing about what to do for the "boot load manager" (do I need the grub loader?) and at one point near the end, the howto says to press Alt+F2 and you'll get a "#" prompt. But I only get a /blahblah something prompt and it will not accept any commands. The last message from the install says it is safe to reboot, but when I did I just get the message "no operating system found". FYI, I'm trying to put this on a Dell GX1 500Mhz PC with 128MB ram and 12GB HD. I downloaded the 4 images from the linux-speakup page and varified they are good. I did the automatic partition because linux will be the only os on this system. The synthesizer is a DecTalk express. Thanks for any help. Ken -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader Installing Fedora - boot loader Kenneth Lee @ ` David Bruzos ` Kenneth Lee 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: David Bruzos @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello Ken: Yes, you need a boot loader! If you don't install grub there will be no boot info in the master boot record of the hard disc and your BIOS will not see the operating system. So, when you get to the boot loader screen, select grub and put it to the MBR (master boot record). If you do that, you should be able to boot after you restart... About your other problem I am not sure. I have not installed Fedora in a while and I don't remember having any problems like yours. Don't get discouraged however, Linux is a wonderful thing and the community around it is even more wonderful. After a year you will be amazed of the things you can do with your Linux machine. It was hard at first for me, but once I understood what was going on, everything got easier and easier... David B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@cox.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: Installing Fedora - boot loader Hello all, I've been trying all weekend to get Phedora installed. This is my first time to install any kind of Linux and well... It's not going well. I've been reading the howto's I found on linux-speakup.org but the description in the howto do not match with the screens I'm getting. The howto says nothing about what to do for the "boot load manager" (do I need the grub loader?) and at one point near the end, the howto says to press Alt+F2 and you'll get a "#" prompt. But I only get a /blahblah something prompt and it will not accept any commands. The last message from the install says it is safe to reboot, but when I did I just get the message "no operating system found". FYI, I'm trying to put this on a Dell GX1 500Mhz PC with 128MB ram and 12GB HD. I downloaded the 4 images from the linux-speakup page and varified they are good. I did the automatic partition because linux will be the only os on this system. The synthesizer is a DecTalk express. Thanks for any help. Ken -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing Fedora - boot loader ` David Bruzos @ ` Kenneth Lee ` David Bruzos ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Thanks for the encouragement. I know I will eventually succeed, if I have to install a hundred times! I'm on my third time now. I'm still not sure how to do the "initrd", but I'll keep googling around and find the right howto. Regards, Ken -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of David Bruzos Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:15 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader Hello Ken: Yes, you need a boot loader! If you don't install grub there will be no boot info in the master boot record of the hard disc and your BIOS will not see the operating system. So, when you get to the boot loader screen, select grub and put it to the MBR (master boot record). If you do that, you should be able to boot after you restart... About your other problem I am not sure. I have not installed Fedora in a while and I don't remember having any problems like yours. Don't get discouraged however, Linux is a wonderful thing and the community around it is even more wonderful. After a year you will be amazed of the things you can do with your Linux machine. It was hard at first for me, but once I understood what was going on, everything got easier and easier... David B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@cox.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: Installing Fedora - boot loader Hello all, I've been trying all weekend to get Phedora installed. This is my first time to install any kind of Linux and well... It's not going well. I've been reading the howto's I found on linux-speakup.org but the description in the howto do not match with the screens I'm getting. The howto says nothing about what to do for the "boot load manager" (do I need the grub loader?) and at one point near the end, the howto says to press Alt+F2 and you'll get a "#" prompt. But I only get a /blahblah something prompt and it will not accept any commands. The last message from the install says it is safe to reboot, but when I did I just get the message "no operating system found". FYI, I'm trying to put this on a Dell GX1 500Mhz PC with 128MB ram and 12GB HD. I downloaded the 4 images from the linux-speakup page and varified they are good. I did the automatic partition because linux will be the only os on this system. The synthesizer is a DecTalk express. Thanks for any help. Ken -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader ` Kenneth Lee @ ` David Bruzos ` Kenneth Lee ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: David Bruzos @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello again: If you can't get the initrd thing to work, drop me a message and I will try to help you as much as possible. If you can get the system to boot, then don't worry, everything else is just a matter of a few commands... Even if you can't get the initrd image installed and working you can still load your speakup module by hand by typing: # modprobe speakup_xxxx on the command line. XXXX is the keyworkd for your synth. For example, I have a Double talk and my keyword is ltlk. So, I type, "modprobe speakup_ltlk and my system starts talking. Remember to do this as root. Oh, the syntax for mkinitrd is: # /sbin/mkinitrd -f -v /boot/initrd-x.x.xx x.x.xx --with=speakup_xxx --with=pcspkr Where the /boot/init-x.x.xx is the name that you want for your image file. The second x.x.xx is the kernel version you have installed (look in /lib/modules and you will see a directory with a name like: 2.6.5.something-something).). The --with=speakup_xxxx tells mkinitrd to put your speakup module in the image and the --with=pcspkr adds the PC speaker driver to the image, so that your console can beep. The pcspkr module is not required though. That only is something that can make your console more friendly when you don't have speech. Take care! David B. On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 07:23:04PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote: > Thanks for the encouragement. I know I will eventually succeed, if I have > to install a hundred times! I'm on my third time now. I'm still not sure > how to do the "initrd", but I'll keep googling around and find the right > howto. > > Regards, Ken > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of David Bruzos > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:15 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader > > > Hello Ken: > Yes, you need a boot loader! If you don't install grub there will be no > boot info in the master boot record of the hard disc and your BIOS will not > see the operating system. So, when you get to the boot loader screen, > select grub and put it to the MBR (master boot record). > If you do that, you should be able to boot after you restart... > About your other problem I am not sure. I have not installed Fedora in a > while and I don't remember having any problems like yours. > Don't get discouraged however, Linux is a wonderful thing and the community > around it is even more wonderful. After a year you will be amazed of the > things you can do with your Linux machine. It was hard at first for me, but > > once I understood what was going on, everything got easier and easier... > > David B. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* RE: Installing Fedora - boot loader ` David Bruzos @ ` Kenneth Lee 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Yes!!! Success at last. Thanks to David for his tips he sent me offline. What I Had to do was this. First I reburned the images because for some reason the first ones didn't verify. (hmmm, to much dog hair around here I think) Then going on David's suggestion, I manually created my partitions using his recommendations. This was the hardest part of all because I never did figure out how to use druid. For example, I could not figure how to change from ext3 to swap when setting up my swap partition. I did finally manage to get it set to "swap" but I haven't clue how I did it. Note to anyone using the howto from linux-speakup.org, where it says to press control+alt+f2 to switch to another console. You do not get a '#' prompt (at least not with the version I have). I have the version pointed to from the linux-speakup page. Version FC2. Anyway I now have linux (fedora) install...now if I only knew what to do with it! <G> I still need to get my email client setup and a web browser. Regards, Ken -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of David Bruzos Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:23 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader Hello again: If you can't get the initrd thing to work, drop me a message and I will try to help you as much as possible. If you can get the system to boot, then don't worry, everything else is just a matter of a few commands... Even if you can't get the initrd image installed and working you can still load your speakup module by hand by typing: # modprobe speakup_xxxx on the command line. XXXX is the keyworkd for your synth. For example, I have a Double talk and my keyword is ltlk. So, I type, "modprobe speakup_ltlk and my system starts talking. Remember to do this as root. Oh, the syntax for mkinitrd is: # /sbin/mkinitrd -f -v /boot/initrd-x.x.xx x.x.xx --with=speakup_xxx --with=pcspkr Where the /boot/init-x.x.xx is the name that you want for your image file. The second x.x.xx is the kernel version you have installed (look in /lib/modules and you will see a directory with a name like: 2.6.5.something-something).). The --with=speakup_xxxx tells mkinitrd to put your speakup module in the image and the --with=pcspkr adds the PC speaker driver to the image, so that your console can beep. The pcspkr module is not required though. That only is something that can make your console more friendly when you don't have speech. Take care! David B. On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 07:23:04PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote: > Thanks for the encouragement. I know I will eventually succeed, if I have > to install a hundred times! I'm on my third time now. I'm still not sure > how to do the "initrd", but I'll keep googling around and find the right > howto. > > Regards, Ken > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of David Bruzos > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:15 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader > > > Hello Ken: > Yes, you need a boot loader! If you don't install grub there will be no > boot info in the master boot record of the hard disc and your BIOS will not > see the operating system. So, when you get to the boot loader screen, > select grub and put it to the MBR (master boot record). > If you do that, you should be able to boot after you restart... > About your other problem I am not sure. I have not installed Fedora in a > while and I don't remember having any problems like yours. > Don't get discouraged however, Linux is a wonderful thing and the community > around it is even more wonderful. After a year you will be amazed of the > things you can do with your Linux machine. It was hard at first for me, but > > once I understood what was going on, everything got easier and easier... > > David B. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader ` Kenneth Lee ` David Bruzos @ ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Kenneth Lee writes: > Thanks for the encouragement. I know I will eventually succeed, if I have > to install a hundred times! I'm on my third time now. I'm still not sure > how to do the "initrd", but I'll keep googling around and find the right > howto. Are you using an old version of the installation HOWTO? The instructions on creating an initrd image are painfully precise. Googling for something else isn't going to help you. You might also want to take the advice to telephone for assistance that's at the front of the HOWTO. Have you done that? > > Regards, Ken > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of David Bruzos > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:15 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader > > > Hello Ken: > Yes, you need a boot loader! If you don't install grub there will be no > boot info in the master boot record of the hard disc and your BIOS will not > see the operating system. So, when you get to the boot loader screen, > select grub and put it to the MBR (master boot record). > If you do that, you should be able to boot after you restart... > About your other problem I am not sure. I have not installed Fedora in a > while and I don't remember having any problems like yours. > Don't get discouraged however, Linux is a wonderful thing and the community > around it is even more wonderful. After a year you will be amazed of the > things you can do with your Linux machine. It was hard at first for me, but > > once I understood what was going on, everything got easier and easier... > > David B. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Lee" <klee15@cox.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 6:25 PM > Subject: Installing Fedora - boot loader > > > Hello all, I've been trying all weekend to get Phedora installed. This is > my first time to install any kind of Linux and well... It's not going well. > > I've been reading the howto's I found on linux-speakup.org but the > description in the howto do not match with the screens I'm getting. > > The howto says nothing about what to do for the "boot load manager" (do I > need the grub loader?) and at one point near the end, the howto says to > press Alt+F2 and you'll get a "#" prompt. But I only get a /blahblah > something prompt and it will not accept any commands. > > The last message from the install says it is safe to reboot, but when I did > I just get the message "no operating system found". > > FYI, I'm trying to put this on a Dell GX1 500Mhz PC with 128MB ram and 12GB > HD. I downloaded the 4 images from the linux-speakup page and varified they > are good. I did the automatic partition because linux will be the only os > on this system. The synthesizer is a DecTalk express. > > Thanks for any help. > > Ken > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~ UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
Installing Fedora - boot loader Kenneth Lee
` David Bruzos
` Kenneth Lee
` David Bruzos
` Kenneth Lee
` Janina Sajka
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox; as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).