From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net ([68.230.240.37]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CWJqV-00073Q-00 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:27:31 -0500 Received: from LAPTALK ([68.100.249.82]) by lakermmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041122192656.KKVP18789.lakermmtao02.cox.net@LAPTALK> for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:26:56 -0500 From: "Kenneth Lee" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c4d0c9$3a499040$6500a8c0@LAPTALK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <20041122012309.GA10340@bruzos.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: RE: Installing Fedora - boot loader X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:27:43 -0000 Yes!!! Success at last. Thanks to David for his tips he sent me = offline. What I Had to do was this. First I reburned the images because for some reason the first ones = didn't verify. (hmmm, to much dog hair around here I think) Then going on David's suggestion, I manually created my partitions using = his recommendations. This was the hardest part of all because I never did figure out how to use druid. For example, I could not figure how to = change from ext3 to swap when setting up my swap partition. I did finally = manage to get it set to "swap" but I haven't clue how I did it. Note to anyone using the howto from linux-speakup.org, where it says to press control+alt+f2 to switch to another console. You do not get a '#' prompt (at least not with the version I have). I have the version = pointed to from the linux-speakup page. Version FC2. Anyway I now have linux (fedora) install...now if I only knew what to do with it! I still need to get my email client setup and a web = browser. Regards, Ken -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca = [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of David Bruzos Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:23 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader Hello again: If you can't get the initrd thing to work, drop me a message and I will=20 try to help you as much as possible. If you can get the system to boot, = then don't worry, everything else is just a matter of a few commands... Even if you can't get the initrd image installed and working you can=20 still load your speakup module by hand by typing: # modprobe speakup_xxxx on the command line. XXXX is the keyworkd for your synth. For example, = I have a Double talk and my keyword is ltlk. So, I type, "modprobe=20 speakup_ltlk and my system starts talking. Remember to do this as root. Oh, the syntax for mkinitrd is: # /sbin/mkinitrd -f -v /boot/initrd-x.x.xx x.x.xx --with=3Dspeakup_xxx --with=3Dpcspkr=20 Where the /boot/init-x.x.xx is the name that you want for your image=20 file. The second x.x.xx is the kernel version you have installed (look=20 in /lib/modules and you will see a directory with a name like:=20 2.6.5.something-something).). The --with=3Dspeakup_xxxx tells mkinitrd = to=20 put your speakup module in the image and the --with=3Dpcspkr adds the PC = speaker driver to the image, so that your console can beep. The pcspkr module is not required though. That only is something that=20 can make your console more friendly when you don't have speech. Take care! David B. On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 07:23:04PM -0500, Kenneth Lee wrote: > Thanks for the encouragement. I know I will eventually succeed, if I = have > to install a hundred times! I'm on my third time now. I'm still not = sure > how to do the "initrd", but I'll keep googling around and find the = right > howto. >=20 > Regards, Ken >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of David Bruzos > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:15 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Installing Fedora - boot loader >=20 >=20 > Hello Ken: > Yes, you need a boot loader! If you don't install grub there will be = no=20 > boot info in the master boot record of the hard disc and your BIOS = will not=20 > see the operating system. So, when you get to the boot loader screen, = > select grub and put it to the MBR (master boot record). > If you do that, you should be able to boot after you restart... > About your other problem I am not sure. I have not installed Fedora = in a=20 > while and I don't remember having any problems like yours. > Don't get discouraged however, Linux is a wonderful thing and the community=20 > around it is even more wonderful. After a year you will be amazed of = the=20 > things you can do with your Linux machine. It was hard at first for = me, but >=20 > once I understood what was going on, everything got easier and = easier... >=20 > David B. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release Date: 11/19/2004 =20