Re: enboking spell checkers with mutt

Re: enboking spell checkers with mutt

[Sean M McMahon]

Excellent!  that's what I need to see.  Thanks to Tom on the bit about 
reconfiguring and demons, I always wondered what the --reconfigure option 
of dpkg did.  Now that this hopefully works, what do I do about the no 
aliases error mutt gives me?  That error happens after I try to type in an 
address on the to line and i see it again when I hit tab.  I'm assuming 
here that you tab from to: to cc: to subject and so forth. 
Sean

Ot: ftp question

[Sina Bahram]

Hi guys,

I have a symbolic link in my home directory to a directory about 4 levels up
and four levels into a totally different branch....and when I login via ftp,
I don't see the symbolic link...how can I?

Take care,
Sina

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Re: enboking spell checkers with mutt

[Thomas Stivers]

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On Tue, Jul 13 2004 at 03:37:31PM -0700, Sean M McMahon wrote:
> Excellent!  that's what I need to see.  Thanks to Tom on the bit about 
> reconfiguring and demons, I always wondered what the --reconfigure option 
> of dpkg did.  Now that this hopefully works, what do I do about the no 
> aliases error mutt gives me?  That error happens after I try to type in an 
> address on the to line and i see it again when I hit tab.  I'm assuming 
> here that you tab from to: to cc: to subject and so forth. 

Ah now I see when you hit tab after entering the address mutt is trying
to complete an alias that doesn't exist. To get to the subject prompt
just hit enter after typing the address. You might want to look at the
manual you get by pressing f1 in mutt as it tells you about a huge
number of options that can make using mutt much more pleasant as well as
everything else you wanted to know. You can search the manual with /text
where text is the thing you want to search for.

HTH

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Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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Re: Ot: ftp question

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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Hi,
There are two things you want to check. First, check if the ftp server 
software you are using has a hide symbolic links option. Several do, and 
this would inhibit the link from being shown. Second, and probably more 
likely, does the ftp server chroot you in to your home directory? If 
so, the link wouldn't be shown because it wouldn't work even if it was.

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I have a symbolic link in my home directory to a directory about 4 levels up
> and four levels into a totally different branch....and when I login via ftp,
> I don't see the symbolic link...how can I?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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RE: Ot: ftp question

[Sina Bahram]

As to your second suggestion, how come?

Take care,
Sina

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electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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Hi,
There are two things you want to check. First, check if the ftp server 
software you are using has a hide symbolic links option. Several do, and 
this would inhibit the link from being shown. Second, and probably more 
likely, does the ftp server chroot you in to your home directory? If 
so, the link wouldn't be shown because it wouldn't work even if it was.

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I have a symbolic link in my home directory to a directory about 4 
> levels up and four levels into a totally different branch....and when 
> I login via ftp, I don't see the symbolic link...how can I?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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RE: Ot: ftp question

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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Are you asking why the server performs the chroot, or are you asking why 
symbolic links don't work? If you want to know why the chroot is 
performed, it is a security feature. It reduces the chance that a 
compromized ftp server will allow people to do major damage because 
people who get in don't have access to the entire system. As to why 
symbolic links don't work, this would be because a chroot locks you in 
to a directory. If the symbolic link points outside of it, then the 
system wouldn't allow you to change to that directory because it is not 
within the chroot.

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:

> As to your second suggestion, how come?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: Ot: ftp question
> 
> 
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> Hi,
> There are two things you want to check. First, check if the ftp server 
> software you are using has a hide symbolic links option. Several do, and 
> this would inhibit the link from being shown. Second, and probably more 
> likely, does the ftp server chroot you in to your home directory? If 
> so, the link wouldn't be shown because it wouldn't work even if it was.
> 
> - -- 
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
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> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:
> 
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I have a symbolic link in my home directory to a directory about 4 
> > levels up and four levels into a totally different branch....and when 
> > I login via ftp, I don't see the symbolic link...how can I?
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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RE: Ot: ftp question

[Sina Bahram]

Thanks...you answered both questions perfectly, I totally got you now. I
really do appreciate the explinations, thank you again.

Take care,
Sina

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electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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Are you asking why the server performs the chroot, or are you asking why 
symbolic links don't work? If you want to know why the chroot is 
performed, it is a security feature. It reduces the chance that a 
compromized ftp server will allow people to do major damage because 
people who get in don't have access to the entire system. As to why 
symbolic links don't work, this would be because a chroot locks you in 
to a directory. If the symbolic link points outside of it, then the 
system wouldn't allow you to change to that directory because it is not 
within the chroot.

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:

> As to your second suggestion, how come?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:43 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Ot: ftp question
> 
> 
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> Hi,
> There are two things you want to check. First, check if the ftp server
> software you are using has a hide symbolic links option. Several do, and 
> this would inhibit the link from being shown. Second, and probably more 
> likely, does the ftp server chroot you in to your home directory? If 
> so, the link wouldn't be shown because it wouldn't work even if it was.
> 
> - --
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
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> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:
> 
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I have a symbolic link in my home directory to a directory about 4
> > levels up and four levels into a totally different branch....and when 
> > I login via ftp, I don't see the symbolic link...how can I?
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large
> > number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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