* Fedora CD Problems
@ Daniel C
` Kerry Hoath
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Daniel C @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hello list,
The Fedora7 CD's I brought from CheapBytes won't boot whatsoever. I tried
to make a boot image without luck .. the image won't copy to the blank CD R
whatsoever.
The rescue image won't even properly read write in the CD-rom.
What shall I do next? I'm out of ideas, and felt as if I've wasted money on
something that doesn't work at all.
Also, does anyone know CheapBytes return policy, and whether I'd be able to
get a refund or not for these discs?
Have a good day.
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1025 - Release Date: 9/23/2007
1:53 PM
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread* Re: Fedora CD Problems Fedora CD Problems Daniel C @ ` Kerry Hoath ` Janina Sajka ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Kerry Hoath @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. You are not understanding the documentation correctly; unless there is something special about fedora modified that I am unaware of. The rescue and boot images are for floppy disks, _not_ cds. You should be able to put disk 1 of your cheap bytes set into the machine in question, configure the bios to boot from cdrom and then boot the install from there. When we installed the standard fedora we just set the bios up and inserted the first cd. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel C" <dlchavez@bellsouth.net> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Fedora CD Problems > Hello list, > > The Fedora7 CD's I brought from CheapBytes won't boot whatsoever. I tried > to make a boot image without luck .. the image won't copy to the blank CD > R > whatsoever. > The rescue image won't even properly read write in the CD-rom. > What shall I do next? I'm out of ideas, and felt as if I've wasted money > on > something that doesn't work at all. > Also, does anyone know CheapBytes return policy, and whether I'd be able > to > get a refund or not for these discs? > > Have a good day. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1025 - Release Date: > 9/23/2007 > 1:53 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Fedora CD Problems ` Kerry Hoath @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Kerry Hoath writes: > You are not understanding the documentation correctly; unless there is > something special about fedora modified that I am unaware of. > This is also what I suspect. > The rescue and boot images are for floppy disks, _not_ cds. Actually, not so any longer. I don't recall when exactly this changed, but it was some years ago. There is no longer a way to boot Fedora from floppy disks. Still, one doesn't "copy" the files, one creates a disk from those images. This is a distinction many new users have some trouble coming to grips with. > > You should be able to put disk 1 of your cheap bytes set into the machine in > question, configure the bios to boot from cdrom and then boot the install > from there. > Exactly. And, it will not talk until the point indicated in our Installation HOWTO, which is in time for the second prompt, but not for the first. Please note that it's my understanding he got the Speakup Modified Fedora from CheapBytes. In any case, if the CD fails, it will provide some indication of why, just as any booting Linux will, e.g. kernel panic, etc. > When we installed the standard fedora we just set the bios up and inserted > the first cd. > And the Speakup Modified works that way as well--but the drive must boot the computer via bios, and one does have to deal with the first nontalking prompt properly. Janina ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Fedora CD Problems Fedora CD Problems Daniel C ` Kerry Hoath @ ` Janina Sajka ` Daniel C 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Can you say more with specificity? For example, what messages come up when you attempt to boot? What is the message that announces failure? Also, and I must ask for completeness, have you booted this computer using a CD ROM in the past? Janina Daniel C writes: > Hello list, > > The Fedora7 CD's I brought from CheapBytes won't boot whatsoever. I tried > to make a boot image without luck .. the image won't copy to the blank CD R > whatsoever. > The rescue image won't even properly read write in the CD-rom. > What shall I do next? I'm out of ideas, and felt as if I've wasted money on > something that doesn't work at all. > Also, does anyone know CheapBytes return policy, and whether I'd be able to > get a refund or not for these discs? > > Have a good day. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1025 - Release Date: 9/23/2007 > 1:53 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* RE: Fedora CD Problems ` Janina Sajka @ ` Daniel C ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Daniel C @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' I insert the 1st install CD and reboot, and nothing happens. The bios are configured to boot from the CD drive already. According to the site I'd need either a boot CD, a rescue image or the first install disk. So I do not see how creating a floppy from an iso would work. In fact, the ISO for the boot CD wouldn't copy to the CD at all. Also, it says nothing in regards to booting from floppy disk anymore. As quoted from the docs found on speakupmodified.org: Booting the Installation At long last you are ready to begin installing the Speakup Modified Fedora distribution. Start a text-based installation with speech by booting your bootable flash media device or the CD ROM you created from the boot.iso or rescue CD image, or by booting the first installation CD ROM disk. NOTE:If booting the first installation CD ROM doesn't work for you, as it currently doesn't in some circumstances, you'll need to create a boot disk as described in Downloading Required Files. SO in otherwords, I was right in attempting to make a boot CD and the rescue CD. However, neither method worked. The creation of the boot CD failed, as nothing was ever copied to the CD, and the rescue image, it created, I think, I cannot say for sure as the CD-R can no longer be read now. The End Result I have Fedora 7 sitting on my server box, unable to be installed. I've wasted valuable time that I could have used elseware, perhaps installing a Fedora that actually works? I've spent a month trying to get the Fedora images downloaded from http://speakupmodified.org to work but without luck. I am fresh out of ideas, and am not to happy right now. If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know. P.S: To test my therey of CD-rom firstboot, I booted from a Fedora3 CD I had and it boots just fine. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Fedora CD Problems ` Daniel C @ ` Janina Sajka ` Daniel C 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If the FC3 disk boots, so should the F7. But, I'm still confused. Do you have a working Fedora on this server? If so, you should be telling us whether or not the sha1sum succeeds or fails. That's how we validate media and iso files. Also, I'm puzzled about your inability to retrieve complete iso files from our on line repository. Since you're familiar with the Installation HOWTO, may I reiterate its guidance about using a download method that can resume when downloads are interrupted? PS: I'm sure CheapBytes would send you a second set. As noted previously on this list, quite a few people have installed both from downloaded iso files and burned media, including media from CheapBytes. Janina Daniel C writes: > I insert the 1st install CD and reboot, and nothing happens. The bios are > configured to boot from the CD drive already. > According to the site I'd need either a boot CD, a rescue image or the first > install disk. So I do not see how creating a floppy from an iso would work. > In fact, the ISO for the boot CD wouldn't copy to the CD at all. > Also, it says nothing in regards to booting from floppy disk anymore. As > quoted from the docs found on speakupmodified.org: > Booting the Installation > At long last you are ready to begin installing the Speakup Modified Fedora > distribution. Start a text-based installation with speech by booting your > bootable > flash media device or the CD ROM you created from the boot.iso or rescue CD > image, or by booting the first installation CD ROM disk. > NOTE:If booting the first installation CD ROM doesn't work for you, as it > currently doesn't in some circumstances, you'll need to create a boot disk > as described in Downloading Required Files. > SO in otherwords, I was right in attempting to make a boot CD and the rescue > CD. However, neither method worked. > The creation of the boot CD failed, as nothing was ever copied to the CD, > and the rescue image, it created, I think, I cannot say for sure as the CD-R > can no longer be read now. > > The End Result > I have Fedora 7 sitting on my server box, unable to be installed. I've > wasted valuable time that I could have used elseware, perhaps installing a > Fedora that actually works? > I've spent a month trying to get the Fedora images downloaded from > http://speakupmodified.org to work but without luck. I am fresh out of > ideas, and am not to happy right now. > If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know. P.S: To test my therey of > CD-rom firstboot, I booted from a Fedora3 CD I had and it boots just fine. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 > 8:02 AM > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* RE: Fedora CD Problems ` Janina Sajka @ ` Daniel C 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Daniel C @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Fedora was installed on this server in 2003. I've since reinstalled windows. I've used FTP with resume, and all images were downloaded completely. To make sure I've downloaded full images, I have the sizes for all 5 images including the boot and rescue images. Are the following correct sizes for all images? Fedora DISC1: 665MB Fedora Disc2: 682MB Fedora Disc3: 670MB Fedora Disc4: 684MB Fedora Disc5: 117MB Boot CD: 7 .73MB Rescue CD: 96.9MB Are those complete images or should I redownload them again? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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