Linux-and-Virus Programs?

Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Hart Larry]

Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have any
anti-virus programs.
Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.  While I was
looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is an
executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I would feel
much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in
win98.
Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I can run
with speakup?
Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in windows.
Thanks so much in advance
Hart

RE: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Sina Bahram]

I'm sorry for not answering your question directly, but
If you were searching for songs and received an executable. Here's some
advice, delete it right now.

Also, try getting norton antivirus 2004 or if you can, norton system
works 2004 which I have been using for the longest time now. Obviously,
I've been upgrading the products as they come along, but I love the
norton suite of tools, and have tested it against a host of different
viruses and worms; it passed with flying colors for me.

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Hart Larry
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:31 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Linux-and-Virus Programs?


Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have any
anti-virus programs. Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on
Mutella in Linux.  While I was looking for Christmas dance music, I
ended up with a file, which is an executeable.  I don't know its
content, but I hope its music.  I would feel much better if I could scan
it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in win98. Are their any
suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I can run with
speakup? Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor
viruses in windows. Thanks so much in advance Hart


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Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Janina Sajka]

Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
any system files this way.


Hart Larry writes:
> From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> 
> Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have any
> anti-virus programs.
> Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.  While I was
> looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is an
> executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I would feel
> much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in
> win98.
> Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I can run
> with speakup?
> Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in windows.
> Thanks so much in advance
> Hart
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

RE: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Sina Bahram]

Janina how can one unzip a .exe file?

Also, viruses can do massive damage on temporary user accounts. I don't
believe this would be a wise course of action to pursue. I believe you
might be thinking about this advice on a Linux box, but certainly not on
Windows.

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:48 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?


Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
any system files this way.


Hart Larry writes:
> From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> 
> Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have 
> any anti-virus programs. Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files

> on Mutella in Linux.  While I was looking for Christmas dance music, I

> ended up with a file, which is an executeable.  I don't know its 
> content, but I hope its music.  I would feel much better if I could 
> scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in win98.
> Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I
can run
> with speakup?
> Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in
windows.
> Thanks so much in advance
> Hart
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

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Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Gregory Nowak]

Actually, if you have a self-extracting zip file, which would be an
executable, you can run that file through the unzip program in
gnu/linux, and it will unzip the contents of the exe for you.

Greg


On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 05:58:56PM -0500, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Janina how can one unzip a .exe file?
> 
> Also, viruses can do massive damage on temporary user accounts. I don't
> believe this would be a wise course of action to pursue. I believe you
> might be thinking about this advice on a Linux box, but certainly not on
> Windows.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> 

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RE: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Sina Bahram]

Thanks, I'm familiar with that. however, I was refering to executable
files and not self extracting executables, which is most likely what he
has downloaded. It is almost certainly a virus anyways.

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:14 PM
To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?


Actually, if you have a self-extracting zip file, which would be an
executable, you can run that file through the unzip program in
gnu/linux, and it will unzip the contents of the exe for you.

Greg


On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 05:58:56PM -0500, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Janina how can one unzip a .exe file?
> 
> Also, viruses can do massive damage on temporary user accounts. I 
> don't believe this would be a wise course of action to pursue. I 
> believe you might be thinking about this advice on a Linux box, but 
> certainly not on Windows.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 

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Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Erik Heil]

One thing you will have to do in Windows is to specify that the user is not
a part of the Administrator's group.  That way it won't have access to key
areas of the System Registry and won't potentially have a way to wreak havoc
by overwriting system registry values.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: Linux-and-Virus Programs?


> Janina how can one unzip a .exe file?
>
> Also, viruses can do massive damage on temporary user accounts. I don't
> believe this would be a wise course of action to pursue. I believe you
> might be thinking about this advice on a Linux box, but certainly not on
> Windows.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:48 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?
>
>
> Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
> file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
> something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
> any system files this way.
>
>
> Hart Larry writes:
> > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> >
> > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have
> > any anti-virus programs. Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files
>
> > on Mutella in Linux.  While I was looking for Christmas dance music, I
>
> > ended up with a file, which is an executeable.  I don't know its
> > content, but I hope its music.  I would feel much better if I could
> > scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in win98.
> > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I
> can run
> > with speakup?
> > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in
> windows.
> > Thanks so much in advance
> > Hart
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
>
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
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Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Janina Sajka]

You didn't follow my logic, Sina.

Let's postulate that what you have could do a massive amount of damage
to a user's files on Linux. That's a real stretch--but let's just
postulate that's what would happenwith file X.

So, you've created a temporary dummy user accoundt.

You give this file to that user.

That user opens the file which immediately trashes all tthe files in the
user's home directory.

So, you log onto  the system as root and delete that user's home
directory and that user's account.

End of the story is no damage to the system and lots of knowledge about
the file.

Sina Bahram writes:
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> 
> Janina how can one unzip a .exe file?
> 
> Also, viruses can do massive damage on temporary user accounts. I don't
> believe this would be a wise course of action to pursue. I believe you
> might be thinking about this advice on a Linux box, but certainly not on
> Windows.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:48 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?
> 
> 
> Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
> file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
> something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
> any system files this way.
> 
> 
> Hart Larry writes:
> > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> > 
> > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have 
> > any anti-virus programs. Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files
> 
> > on Mutella in Linux.  While I was looking for Christmas dance music, I
> 
> > ended up with a file, which is an executeable.  I don't know its 
> > content, but I hope its music.  I would feel much better if I could 
> > scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in win98.
> > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I
> can run
> > with speakup?
> > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in
> windows.
> > Thanks so much in advance
> > Hart
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 	
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net		
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

RE: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Sina Bahram]

Well, I still don't see how this could help him determine the harm to a
windows box?

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:55 AM
To: sbahram@nc.rr.com; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?


You didn't follow my logic, Sina.

Let's postulate that what you have could do a massive amount of damage
to a user's files on Linux. That's a real stretch--but let's just
postulate that's what would happenwith file X.

So, you've created a temporary dummy user accoundt.

You give this file to that user.

That user opens the file which immediately trashes all tthe files in the
user's home directory.

So, you log onto  the system as root and delete that user's home
directory and that user's account.

End of the story is no damage to the system and lots of knowledge about
the file.

Sina Bahram writes:
> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
> 
> Janina how can one unzip a .exe file?
> 
> Also, viruses can do massive damage on temporary user accounts. I 
> don't believe this would be a wise course of action to pursue. I 
> believe you might be thinking about this advice on a Linux box, but 
> certainly not on Windows.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large 
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:48 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?
> 
> 
> Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this 
> file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's 
> something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash

> any system files this way.
> 
> 
> Hart Larry writes:
> > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> > 
> > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have
> > any anti-virus programs. Reason I am asking is that I am sharing
files
> 
> > on Mutella in Linux.  While I was looking for Christmas dance music,

> > I
> 
> > ended up with a file, which is an executeable.  I don't know its
> > content, but I hope its music.  I would feel much better if I could 
> > scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in win98.
> > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I
> can run
> > with speakup?
> > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses 
> > in
> windows.
> > Thanks so much in advance
> > Hart
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> --
> 	
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net		
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org

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Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Keith Watson]

Whoa Nellie! Bad advice. But I can see where the linux thought 
process came in. It don't matter what user you run an executable 
from under winblows, if it has a virus the whole system gets 
infected. My philosophy is thus, delete all unknown files from 
unknown sources. Better to be safe than sorry.


Keith

On 05:47 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
> file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
> something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
> any system files this way.
> 
> 
> Hart Larry writes:
> > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> > 
> > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have any
> > anti-virus programs.
> > Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.  While I was
> > looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is an
> > executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I would feel
> > much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in
> > win98.
> > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I can run
> > with speakup?
> > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in windows.
> > Thanks so much in advance
> > Hart
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 	
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net		
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
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kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace

RE: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Sina Bahram]

Thank you for that. I don't feel like I'm the only one now.

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Keith Watson
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:49 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?


Whoa Nellie! Bad advice. But I can see where the linux thought 
process came in. It don't matter what user you run an executable 
from under winblows, if it has a virus the whole system gets 
infected. My philosophy is thus, delete all unknown files from 
unknown sources. Better to be safe than sorry.


Keith

On 05:47 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this 
> file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's 
> something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash

> any system files this way.
> 
> 
> Hart Larry writes:
> > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> > 
> > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have 
> > any anti-virus programs. Reason I am asking is that I am sharing 
> > files on Mutella in Linux.  While I was looking for Christmas dance 
> > music, I ended up with a file, which is an executeable.  I don't 
> > know its content, but I hope its music.  I would feel much better if

> > I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in win98.
> > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I
can run
> > with speakup?
> > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses
in windows.
> > Thanks so much in advance
> > Hart
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> --
> 	
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net		
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Keith Watson
kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace

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Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Alex Snow]

I was thinking of installing clam antivirus on my box to run it kind 
of like an smtp proxy for my winblows users. anyone used this program 
before?
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:49:16PM -0500, Keith Watson wrote:
> Whoa Nellie! Bad advice. But I can see where the linux thought 
> process came in. It don't matter what user you run an executable 
> from under winblows, if it has a virus the whole system gets 
> infected. My philosophy is thus, delete all unknown files from 
> unknown sources. Better to be safe than sorry.
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
> On 05:47 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
> > file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
> > something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
> > any system files this way.
> > 
> > 
> > Hart Larry writes:
> > > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> > > 
> > > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have any
> > > anti-virus programs.
> > > Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.  While I was
> > > looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is an
> > > executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I would feel
> > > much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in
> > > win98.
> > > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I can run
> > > with speakup?
> > > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in windows.
> > > Thanks so much in advance
> > > Hart
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > -- 
> > 	
> > Janina Sajka
> > Email: janina@rednote.net		
> > Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > 
> > Director, Technology Research and Development
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > http://www.afb.org
> > 
> > Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> > Free Standards Group
> > http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> Keith Watson
> kwatson@smed.yi.org
> 
> Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?

Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Shaun Oliver]

you need the clamavmilter libs for sendmail and if you're using exim, 
u need to get a hold of the exiscan patch
both urls I've forgotton off the top of my head but google should help
in that department.
hth

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Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Dj Statik]

Yeah, clamav seems to pick up most of the popular windows viruses.

Am currently using amavisd-new in combination with clamav for virus
filtering and spamassassin for spam filtering.

If you haven't checked it out yet, ask freshmeat about amavisd-new, it's
deffinatly worth a look.

Later

>From Mitchell


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <Kwatson@smed.yi.org>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?


> I was thinking of installing clam antivirus on my box to run it kind
> of like an smtp proxy for my winblows users. anyone used this program
> before?
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:49:16PM -0500, Keith Watson wrote:
> > Whoa Nellie! Bad advice. But I can see where the linux thought
> > process came in. It don't matter what user you run an executable
> > from under winblows, if it has a virus the whole system gets
> > infected. My philosophy is thus, delete all unknown files from
> > unknown sources. Better to be safe than sorry.
> >
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > On 05:47 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
> > > file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
> > > something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
> > > any system files this way.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hart Larry writes:
> > > > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> > > >
> > > > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have
any
> > > > anti-virus programs.
> > > > Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.
While I was
> > > > looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is
an
> > > > executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I
would feel
> > > > much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from
Jaws in
> > > > win98.
> > > > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I
can run
> > > > with speakup?
> > > > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses
in windows.
> > > > Thanks so much in advance
> > > > Hart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > -- 
> > >
> > > Janina Sajka
> > > Email: janina@rednote.net
> > > Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > >
> > > Director, Technology Research and Development
> > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > http://www.afb.org
> > >
> > > Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> > > Free Standards Group
> > > http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > -- 
> > Keith Watson
> > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> >
> > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
> Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Alex Snow]

Yeah I'll take a look at it.
I really need virus protection for mail on the winblows boxes. I'm 
sick of hearing "my computer has a virus. waaaaaaaa!"
On Sun, Nov 16, 
2003 at 08:55:33AM +1100, Dj Statik wrote:
> Yeah, clamav seems to pick up most of the popular windows viruses.
> 
> Am currently using amavisd-new in combination with clamav for virus
> filtering and spamassassin for spam filtering.
> 
> If you haven't checked it out yet, ask freshmeat about amavisd-new, it's
> deffinatly worth a look.
> 
> Later
> 
> >From Mitchell
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <Kwatson@smed.yi.org>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?
> 
> 
> > I was thinking of installing clam antivirus on my box to run it kind
> > of like an smtp proxy for my winblows users. anyone used this program
> > before?
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:49:16PM -0500, Keith Watson wrote:
> > > Whoa Nellie! Bad advice. But I can see where the linux thought
> > > process came in. It don't matter what user you run an executable
> > > from under winblows, if it has a virus the whole system gets
> > > infected. My philosophy is thus, delete all unknown files from
> > > unknown sources. Better to be safe than sorry.
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > On 05:47 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Why not just create a temp user and make that user the owner of this
> > > > file? Log in as that user and try to unzip the .exe. Maybe it's
> > > > something you want, and maybe it's junk. But you certainly won't trash
> > > > any system files this way.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hart Larry writes:
> > > > > From: Hart Larry <chime@cts.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have
> any
> > > > > anti-virus programs.
> > > > > Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.
> While I was
> > > > > looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is
> an
> > > > > executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I
> would feel
> > > > > much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from
> Jaws in
> > > > > win98.
> > > > > Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I
> can run
> > > > > with speakup?
> > > > > Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses
> in windows.
> > > > > Thanks so much in advance
> > > > > Hart
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > >
> > > > Janina Sajka
> > > > Email: janina@rednote.net
> > > > Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > > >
> > > > Director, Technology Research and Development
> > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > > http://www.afb.org
> > > >
> > > > Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> > > > Free Standards Group
> > > > http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Keith Watson
> > > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> > >
> > > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > -- 
> > Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?

Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Toby Fisher]

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Hart Larry wrote:

> Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have any
> anti-virus programs.
> Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.  While I was
> looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is an
> executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I would feel
> much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in
> win98.

Frankly, if he knew you were had Windows machines on your network, then 
I'd find a new expert!  I am in the process of implementation anti-virus 
on my mail system, even though I don't currently have Windows boxes here, 
because at the very least they eat bandwidth.

In answer to your question, I'd not run *anything* that's an executable 
that you get from Gnutella.  One reason is that record companies have 
software which will create a file on the fly to match whatever search 
string you enter, returning it to you in the hope that you'll run it.  The 
majority of these just create loads and loads of IE windows and you have 
to reboot to clear it, but I have heard that some are more sinister.

> Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I can run
> with speakup?

Well, I don't know how it works stand-alone, though it should, check out:
http://openantivirus.org

> Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in windows.

Well, backdoors can be made harmless with the use of a decent firewall - 
why not use your Linux box, which is therefore immune to such 
vinfiltrations for the most part?

Kind regards.

-- 
Toby Fisher	Email: toby@tjfisher.co.uk
Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272	Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
ICQ: #61744808
   Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
   See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
 

Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Shaun Oliver]

you might want to consider clam antivirus.
http://clamav.elektrapro.com/
I've fiddled with it a bit but not extensively.
let me know how it goes.

-- 
Shaun Oliver
"Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow!"

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recompilation crashed

[Darragh]

well, I'm at the line
version 2.85 reloading .nptlspk2 }
but its been there for hours.  Any ideas?

I'll just go back over what's happened so far.
I installed fedora core 1.
booted into x so I changed to run level 3 and rebooted.
I then had to install the kernel from the speakup modified version.  It told
me that it was already there so I used the --force arguement.
speakup didn't speek so I assumed it was my apollo, after some messing
around I found that the _synth module was gone and the apollo spoke during
shut.
down when I loded the accsent module.
I found the apollo.c file and noticed that it was checked to compile in the
kurnel.  I tried recompiling the kernel and I've got as far as here.

Thanks

Darragh
Note the person reading it out to me is nearly blind him self so although
the line is definitly at the bottom of the screen there may be a mistake or
so.

Re: recompilation crashed

[Erik Heil]

Hello there.  Wouldn't it be just easier to not use rpm and just build the
kernel from scratch, then apply Speakups from the 1.5 tarball or from CVS
using the checkout script?  I'm not that familiar with RH or Fedora and I'm
more of a Debian person, but this approach seemed to make more sense to me.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:01 AM
Subject: recompilation crashed


> well, I'm at the line
> version 2.85 reloading .nptlspk2 }
> but its been there for hours.  Any ideas?
>
> I'll just go back over what's happened so far.
> I installed fedora core 1.
> booted into x so I changed to run level 3 and rebooted.
> I then had to install the kernel from the speakup modified version.  It
told
> me that it was already there so I used the --force arguement.
> speakup didn't speek so I assumed it was my apollo, after some messing
> around I found that the _synth module was gone and the apollo spoke during
> shut.
> down when I loded the accsent module.
> I found the apollo.c file and noticed that it was checked to compile in
the
> kurnel.  I tried recompiling the kernel and I've got as far as here.
>
> Thanks
>
> Darragh
> Note the person reading it out to me is nearly blind him self so although
> the line is definitly at the bottom of the screen there may be a mistake
or
> so.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: recompilation crashed

[Darragh]

yes maybe, but I'm a newby and rebuilding kernels is extreemly difficult.
plus that machine is connecting to the Interne via a xyzel braudband modem
which isn't supported in Linux.

Of course if you have any other suggestions I'd be very interested.

Darragh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@patmedia.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: recompilation crashed


> Hello there.  Wouldn't it be just easier to not use rpm and just build the
> kernel from scratch, then apply Speakups from the 1.5 tarball or from CVS
> using the checkout script?  I'm not that familiar with RH or Fedora and
I'm
> more of a Debian person, but this approach seemed to make more sense to
me.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:01 AM
> Subject: recompilation crashed
>
>
> > well, I'm at the line
> > version 2.85 reloading .nptlspk2 }
> > but its been there for hours.  Any ideas?
> >
> > I'll just go back over what's happened so far.
> > I installed fedora core 1.
> > booted into x so I changed to run level 3 and rebooted.
> > I then had to install the kernel from the speakup modified version.  It
> told
> > me that it was already there so I used the --force arguement.
> > speakup didn't speek so I assumed it was my apollo, after some messing
> > around I found that the _synth module was gone and the apollo spoke
during
> > shut.
> > down when I loded the accsent module.
> > I found the apollo.c file and noticed that it was checked to compile in
> the
> > kurnel.  I tried recompiling the kernel and I've got as far as here.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Darragh
> > Note the person reading it out to me is nearly blind him self so
although
> > the line is definitly at the bottom of the screen there may be a mistake
> or
> > so.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Linux-and-Virus Programs?

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  F-prot for Linux is completely accessible from the text console.

I have it installed, but don't use it much cause I don't have Windows
computers.
          Kenny
	  
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:31:11PM -0800, Hart Larry wrote:
> Hi All:  Some of my linux experts have told me I don't need to have any
> anti-virus programs.
> Reason I am asking is that I am sharing files on Mutella in Linux.  While I was
> looking for Christmas dance music, I ended up with a file, which is an
> executeable.  I don't know its content, but I hope its music.  I would feel
> much better if I could scan it while in Linux before I run it from Jaws in
> win98.
> Are their any suggestions or speech friendly Linux virus programs I can run
> with speakup?
> Much earlier this year I had alot of trouble with backdoor viruses in windows.
> Thanks so much in advance
> Hart
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup