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[Michael]

High all:

Is the speakup.octothorp.org site down?
When I tryed accessing, I got a reading folder error which indicates to me
that it is but I'm not sure.

Michael

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[james collins]

Unsubscribe

Sent from my iPhone

Re: (no subject)

[Chris Brannon]

James Collins wrote:
> Unsubscribe

You sent it to the wrong place.
Send a message containing the subject unsubscribe
to speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca, or visit this link:
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/options/speakup
If you choose the second method, you will definitely need your password.

> Sent from my iPhone

Sent to your uPhone

-- Chris

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[Roy Nickelson]

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[Diana Dawne]

more about Bill White's Problem
Hi everyone.  When Bill and I were telling about his mail time out problem 
we forgot to mention that he is using a dial up connection.  He says that 
if the problem would be solved with broad band he would consider that but 
he isn't even sure how he would configure his mail program for that.  

love,

Diana & the Magical Fuller Brush

Re: (no subject)

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Dianna,

I hate to say this, but I had a nearly identical problem once when using 
dialup. My ISP advised me to use Windows like everyone else, and I 
double checked everything and insisted that it was they who were 
dropping my connection after a lengthy downbload. We parted company. I 
switched to another dialup service and never saw the problem again. I 
now use broadband modem and am very happy with it. It is not that much 
more expensive than a dialup service plus a second phone line. DSL would 
be even cheaper.

Wish I could be more helpful, but I appreciate the frustration, and my 
guess would be that he is dealing with incompetent tech support people.

Chuck

On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:25:09PM -0800, Diana Dawne wrote:
> more about Bill White's Problem
> Hi everyone.  When Bill and I were telling about his mail time out problem 
> we forgot to mention that he is using a dial up connection.  He says that 
> if the problem would be solved with broad band he would consider that but 
> he isn't even sure how he would configure his mail program for that.  
> 
> love,
> 
> Diana & the Magical Fuller Brush
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh

(no subject)

[Ann K. Parsons]

Hi all,

I have no idea what this is all about, but it may be worth a
look-see.  

Ann P.



>VoiceSignal Provides First Listen of VSpeak(TM)




>>An Entirely New Technology Approach for Embedded Speech Synthesis for
>>Mobile Phones
>>
>>PR Newswire
>>
>>VoiceSignal Provides First Listen of VSpeak(TM) an Entirely New
>>Technology Approach for Embedded Speech Synthesis for Mobile Phones

>>WOBURN, Mass., Sept. 26 /PRNewswire/--VoiceSignal, the leading provider
>>of speech solutions for mobile devices, today provided the first listen
>>of its top secret  speech synthesis research project, which will be
>>called VSpeak(TM) when it hits the market in mobile phones later this
>>year. VoiceSignal's solutions previously contained a speech synthesis
>>engine for speaking names, numbers and menu items; however VSpeak(TM) is
>>a full text-to-speech (TTS) application that can read E-Mail, text
>>messages, web pages or any other text.

>>What makes VSpeak remarkable is that the technology consumes only 300KB
>>of memory in a mobile phone and has the sound quality and intelligibility
>>of systems  requiring more than 20MB. VSpeak is a major step forward for
>>the mobile phone industry because for the first time a high quality TTS
>>system for reading text messages and other content can be deployed in the
>>memory constraints of entry level and mid-tier devices, rather than the
>>highest end smartphones. Including TTS in mobile phones allows users to
>>listen to incoming text messages or other text without looking at the
>>device. When  matched with a bluetooth headset an entirely new eyes free
>>interface solution is
>>possible.

>>The research project that lead to VSpeak has been going on in "stealth
>>mode" at VoiceSignal for the last year. The aim of the project was to
>>revolutionize TTS for mobile devices by creating a product for mass market
>>phones that sounded natural and was compact enough to be deployed in the
>>entry level segment. The underlying technology for VSpeak remains a
>>secret, but the results speak for themselves. VSpeak(TM) compliments
>>VoiceSignal's other product lines: VSuite and VoiceMode, enabling mobile
>>phone manufacturers to provide a complete speech interface solution to
>>look up or dial a contact, dial a number, address a text message, dictate
>>a text message or have a text message or other content read aloud.


>>VSpeak will be deployed in all classes of phones, from entry level
>>through Smartphones and will appear in over 20 languages throughout North
>>America, Europe and Asia later this year and into the first quarter of 2006.


>>About VoiceSignal Technologies


>>VoiceSignal is the world leader in voice interfaces for mobile devices.
>>For the first time, VoiceSignal has solved the interface problem of
>>mobile phones and PDAs. Users can speak a name, a number, or a command,
>>and get connected in one step. VoiceSignal's unique architecture is
>>compatible with the entire range of mobile devices--from entry-level
>>voice-only handsets to enterprise-class PDAs and smart phones.
>>VoiceSignal is shipping on millions of units manufactured by the largest
>>global handset brands and sold by major operators worldwide. Additional
>>information about the company is available at:
http://www.voicesignal.com.


-- 
			Ann K. Parsons  
email:  akp@eznet.net 			
WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
Skype:  Putertutor
"All that is gold does not glitter.  
Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT

Re: (no subject)

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Very interesting.

If it's that secret, it must be good!  Right?

-- 
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But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh

Re: (no subject)

[Dave on Laptop]

Ann,

I talked to these guys a while ago, and they still had no date for the 
release of the software.

All I could get out of them was early 2006, but I'd take that with a grain 
of salt too.

We did upgrade to newer phones with more memory though, just to be ready.

Their websight doesn't say much about the software at all.

Dave

Dave Oberhart MCSE, MCSA
Professional Computer Consulting
www.pcc-nc.biz

Re: (no subject)

[hank smith]

good hopefully we can see cdma phones have a screen reader
its about time!!!
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Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:41 AM
Subject: (no subject)


> Hi all,
>
> I have no idea what this is all about, but it may be worth a
> look-see.
>
> Ann P.
>
>
>
>>VoiceSignal Provides First Listen of VSpeak(TM)
>
>
>
>
>>>An Entirely New Technology Approach for Embedded Speech Synthesis for
>>>Mobile Phones
>>>
>>>PR Newswire
>>>
>>>VoiceSignal Provides First Listen of VSpeak(TM) an Entirely New
>>>Technology Approach for Embedded Speech Synthesis for Mobile Phones
>
>>>WOBURN, Mass., Sept. 26 /PRNewswire/--VoiceSignal, the leading provider
>>>of speech solutions for mobile devices, today provided the first listen
>>>of its top secret  speech synthesis research project, which will be
>>>called VSpeak(TM) when it hits the market in mobile phones later this
>>>year. VoiceSignal's solutions previously contained a speech synthesis
>>>engine for speaking names, numbers and menu items; however VSpeak(TM) is
>>>a full text-to-speech (TTS) application that can read E-Mail, text
>>>messages, web pages or any other text.
>
>>>What makes VSpeak remarkable is that the technology consumes only 300KB
>>>of memory in a mobile phone and has the sound quality and intelligibility
>>>of systems  requiring more than 20MB. VSpeak is a major step forward for
>>>the mobile phone industry because for the first time a high quality TTS
>>>system for reading text messages and other content can be deployed in the
>>>memory constraints of entry level and mid-tier devices, rather than the
>>>highest end smartphones. Including TTS in mobile phones allows users to
>>>listen to incoming text messages or other text without looking at the
>>>device. When  matched with a bluetooth headset an entirely new eyes free
>>>interface solution is
>>>possible.
>
>>>The research project that lead to VSpeak has been going on in "stealth
>>>mode" at VoiceSignal for the last year. The aim of the project was to
>>>revolutionize TTS for mobile devices by creating a product for mass 
>>>market
>>>phones that sounded natural and was compact enough to be deployed in the
>>>entry level segment. The underlying technology for VSpeak remains a
>>>secret, but the results speak for themselves. VSpeak(TM) compliments
>>>VoiceSignal's other product lines: VSuite and VoiceMode, enabling mobile
>>>phone manufacturers to provide a complete speech interface solution to
>>>look up or dial a contact, dial a number, address a text message, dictate
>>>a text message or have a text message or other content read aloud.
>
>
>>>VSpeak will be deployed in all classes of phones, from entry level
>>>through Smartphones and will appear in over 20 languages throughout North
>>>America, Europe and Asia later this year and into the first quarter of 
>>>2006.
>
>
>>>About VoiceSignal Technologies
>
>
>>>VoiceSignal is the world leader in voice interfaces for mobile devices.
>>>For the first time, VoiceSignal has solved the interface problem of
>>>mobile phones and PDAs. Users can speak a name, a number, or a command,
>>>and get connected in one step. VoiceSignal's unique architecture is
>>>compatible with the entire range of mobile devices--from entry-level
>>>voice-only handsets to enterprise-class PDAs and smart phones.
>>>VoiceSignal is shipping on millions of units manufactured by the largest
>>>global handset brands and sold by major operators worldwide. Additional
>>>information about the company is available at:
> http://www.voicesignal.com.
>
>
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> Skype:  Putertutor
> "All that is gold does not glitter.
> Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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[marvin hunkin]

thedora for linux with speakup questions    hi.
doing a it course where i have to install operating system.
a friend of mine is getting thedora for linux with speakup.
and he is looking at getting a hard ware synth to borrow for a month or two.
now can any one give me which hardware synths will or not work with thedora.
as i am a neubie and have not used linux before, how hard is it to use the command line and gui?
any how to docs to get me started or people that can help me?
please let me know as soon as possible.
cheers Marvin.

Re: (no subject)

[Janina Sajka]

The Speakup Modified Fedora Installation HOWTO contains an almost up to
date list of supported synths. The HOWTO is at:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

The new Speakup User's Guide has the latest word in supported synths:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/spkguide.txt

marvin hunkin writes:
> thedora for linux with speakup questions    hi.
> doing a it course where i have to install operating system.
> a friend of mine is getting thedora for linux with speakup.
> and he is looking at getting a hard ware synth to borrow for a month or two.
> now can any one give me which hardware synths will or not work with thedora.
> as i am a neubie and have not used linux before, how hard is it to use the command line and gui?
> any how to docs to get me started or people that can help me?
> please let me know as soon as possible.
> cheers Marvin.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
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[Scott Howell]

FOlks,

I may have posted this some while back, but can't recall. In any case if 
anyone could help him, I would appreciate it. I don't know anything 
about this device. If someone has already contacted him, thank you very 
much.

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Hi Scott!

Been seeing your messages on the bookport list. I can't help noticing that 
the most sensible people on that list seem to be hams. Of course, this 
doesn't surprise me. But I digress. I'm thinking you might be able to help 
me. I now live in New Zealand, where ham help is pretty sparse. I've gotten 
my old Kantronix KPC3 out of mothballs and sent over from the U.S. I'd like 
to get it going using a Braille lite 40 as a terminal. Have you ever done 
such a thing? The serial cable is in good condition, so I don't think 
there's a problem there.

73,
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[Marvin Hunkin]

speakup for linux    Hi.
why can't i use software speech to install it?
and if i can,   what is the best software synth to install it with, and
where can i get it?
let me know.
cheers Marvin.

Re: (no subject)

[Luke Yelavich]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:59:00AM EST, Marvin Hunkin wrote:
> speakup for linux    Hi.
> why can't i use software speech to install it?

As far as I know, nobody has created an install CD with software speech 
for the installer. Somebody could be working on it though, and if they 
are, it would be nice of them to speak up about it please.

Luke

Re: (no subject)

[Toby Fisher]

From: "Luke Yelavich" <themuso@themuso.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


> On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:59:00AM EST, Marvin Hunkin wrote:
>> speakup for linux    Hi.
>> why can't i use software speech to install it?
>
> As far as I know, nobody has created an install CD with software speech
> for the installer. Somebody could be working on it though, and if they
> are, it would be nice of them to speak up about it please.

The major problem here is that in order for software speech to work, it is 
necessary to have working sound drivers.  To put all the sound modules onto 
a livecd would not be an efficient use of space, and your ability to use 
Speakup would be reliant on the livecd kernel detecting your sound card, and 
it all working.  This rarely happens out of the box, so unfortunately I 
can't see it happening for some time.

Hth

Toby

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[Gregory Nowak]

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On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 01:19:36AM -0000, Toby Fisher wrote:
> To put all the sound modules onto 
> a livecd would not be an efficient use of space, and your ability to use 
> Speakup would be reliant on the livecd kernel detecting your sound card, 
> and it all working.  This rarely happens out of the box, so unfortunately I 
> can't see it happening for some time.
> 

System rescue cd actually does detect pci sound cards. It does however
use the 2.4.x kernel still. I have talked to Francois in the past
about setting system rescue cd up to use software speech off the cd,
but he himself didn't know how to go about it, and my to do list is
much larger then I'd like for it to be. I haven't yet gotten around to
setting up speech dispatcher and speeched up on any of my machines, let
alone getting it to work on a live cd.

Greg



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[Scott Howell]

Folks,

If anyone out there is using Exim and authenticating their smtp 
connections like as Verizon's DSL service requires, I'd like to chat 
with you. I had considered going with them, but couldn't get Exim 
working in this manner, but for now I don't have to use that facility, 
but it has me rather curious. I tried reading the docs and following the 
examples, but couldn't get it working. It requires you use your name and 
password.
Any advice would be appreciated.

tia

Re: (no subject)

[Sean McMahon]

I assume you ran eximconfig?  I don't know what kind of authentication you're
talking about.  My dsl just uses username/password authentication and I put my
isp email address in the /etc/email-addresses file.  I don't know if it's
manditory, but I found that when you send email,putting my address in the from
and reply to fields always gets the messages where they need to go.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <n3byy@adelphia.net>
To: <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: (no subject)


> Folks,
>
> If anyone out there is using Exim and authenticating their smtp
> connections like as Verizon's DSL service requires, I'd like to chat
> with you. I had considered going with them, but couldn't get Exim
> working in this manner, but for now I don't have to use that facility,
> but it has me rather curious. I tried reading the docs and following the
> examples, but couldn't get it working. It requires you use your name and
> password.
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> tia
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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[Thomas Stivers]

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 03:33:09 PM -0500, Scott Howell wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> If anyone out there is using Exim and authenticating their smtp 
> connections like as Verizon's DSL service requires, I'd like to chat 
> with you. I had considered going with them, but couldn't get Exim 
> working in this manner, but for now I don't have to use that facility, 
> but it has me rather curious. I tried reading the docs and following the 
> examples, but couldn't get it working. It requires you use your name and 
> password.
> Any advice would be appreciated.

- From your headers it looks like you are using exim-3.36. While I am sure
there is a way to do authenticated smtp with that version i have only
had it work with exim4. There are debian packages for exim4 in testing
and unstable. Using exim4 there is a file called
/etc/exim4/passwd.client where you just put the name of your smarthost
and your username/password to log in. If you don't want to update your
whole system to testing or unstable there are backports of exim4 for
woody if you look on www.apt-get.org.

HTH

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Software: The part you boot.

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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[Janina Sajka]

I also read the Mid Atlantic Linux list where there are other Verizon
DSL  subscribers who have succeeded configuring these connections. You
need to specify xdsl somewhere, but I'm not sure where.

You might want to google on this. I'd suggest a search string like:

"Verizon DSL" linux

Scott Howell writes:
> Folks,
> 
> If anyone out there is using Exim and authenticating their smtp 
> connections like as Verizon's DSL service requires, I'd like to chat 
> with you. I had considered going with them, but couldn't get Exim 
> working in this manner, but for now I don't have to use that facility, 
> but it has me rather curious. I tried reading the docs and following the 
> examples, but couldn't get it working. It requires you use your name and 
> password.
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> 
> tia
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

(no subject)

[Joseph C. Lininger]

I all,
I am working on the festival packages, and I had a question for those of 
you using Slackware. Should I include the mbrola voices? The reason I 
ask is because these are not GPL. I can either include them, not include 
them, or distribute them as a seperate package. What is everyone's 
opinion on this?
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Re: (no subject)

[Gregory Nowak]

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My advise would be to include them as a separate package, provided
that the license doesn't prohibit redistribution as a binary package.

Greg


On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 09:07:55AM -0600, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:
> I all,
> I am working on the festival packages, and I had a question for those of 
> you using Slackware. Should I include the mbrola voices? The reason I 
> ask is because these are not GPL. I can either include them, not include 
> them, or distribute them as a seperate package. What is everyone's 
> opinion on this?
> -- 
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> Note, the following is used for automated processing. Please lieve in 
> tact if quoting me in a reply.
> Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> !DSPAM:40eac3d6188874284151785!
> 
> 

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[nick G]

I may not be a slackware user, but I vehemently disagree with that.  Include
them in the package.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> My advise would be to include them as a separate package, provided
> that the license doesn't prohibit redistribution as a binary package.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 09:07:55AM -0600, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:
> > I all,
> > I am working on the festival packages, and I had a question for those of
> > you using Slackware. Should I include the mbrola voices? The reason I
> > ask is because these are not GPL. I can either include them, not include
> > them, or distribute them as a seperate package. What is everyone's
> > opinion on this?
> > -- 
> > Joseph C. Lininger
> > jbahm@pcdesk.net
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Re: (no subject)

[Shaun Oliver]

if you want to include them by all means. lol.

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Re: (no subject)

[Steve Holmes]

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I would personally think the mbrella voices should go in a separate
package.  Frankly, I didn't know they were compatible with Festival -
I thought it had its own engine.  The end user can install both
packages if he / she wants those additional voices.  I say this since
each has a separate license.  Both licenses might permit binary
distribution but still.  I would think it  would be cleaner that way.

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[Cheryl Homiak]

speakup and cedpstral
I realize that speakup and speech-dispatcher are two different programs,
but
they have to work together, don't they? I don't think you can use cepstral
with speakup and without Speech dispatcher. But I imagine you do need to
know which program's issues you are dealing with.
will look further at the speech Dispatcher documentation and info.
Have debuging on so will be looking at that.
Thanks.



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Re: (no subject)

[Hynek Hanke]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 05:56:18PM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> they have to work together, don't they? I don't think you can use cepstral
> with speakup and without Speech dispatcher. But I imagine you do need to
> know which program's issues you are dealing with.

Speech Dispatcher and it's output modules are accessible for different
clients, one of them being Speakup. So it might be useful to try it
also with the spd-say command or speechd-el to be able to distinguish
Speakup problems from Dispatcher's problems.

But the first (and the easiest guide) should be the log file.

Regards,
Hynek Hanke

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[Wrecking Ball]

unsubscribe digimon wreckingball@comcast.net

(no subject)

[Scott Berry]

pinging behind a router	Hi there,

I was wondering what would cause a system not be able to be pinged behind
a router.  The router is set in the DMZ mode but it still can't be pinged.
Any ideas?



Scott Berry
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Re: (no subject)

[Alex Snow]

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is the router blocking icmp?
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:02:37PM -0700, 
Scott Berry wrote:
> pinging behind a router	Hi there,
> 
> I was wondering what would cause a system not be able to be pinged behind
> a router.  The router is set in the DMZ mode but it still can't be pinged.
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Igor Gueths]

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Hmm. Assuming you are trying to ping from a machine outisde your 
network, your router is blocking incoming ICMP requests to your 
machines. I'm not sure what kind of router you have, but you basically 
have to disable that feature. 
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:02:37PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote:
> pinging behind a router	Hi there,
> 
> I was wondering what would cause a system not be able to be pinged behind
> a router.  The router is set in the DMZ mode but it still can't be pinged.
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Berry
> Click here for my email addres: mailto:scott@drscott.dyndns.biz
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[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

I saw this on the ACBNY list and thought it was worth publishing.  

Ann P.



New Librarian of Congress Ruling Gains Access to eBooks for People With
Visual Impairments WASHINGTON, Dec.  3 --

The Librarian of Congress issued a ruling supporting the right of people who
are blind or partially sighted to gain full access to electronic books
(eBooks).  The ruling provides an exemption to the 1998 Digital Millennium
Copyright Act (DMCA), making it legal to circumvent any encrypted or
protected features that render the text inaccessible for the specialized
computer technologies used by people who are visually impaired to read
electronic text.
"This ruling upholds the fundamental right to read for all people," said
Carl Augusto, President of the American Foundation for the Blind (AFB).
"The emerging electronic book technologies have the potential to make
published information more accessible and usable to people with visual
impairments.  By removing barriers to utilizing eBooks, the Library ensured
all people can continue to enjoy the benefits of progress."

This ruling is the result of a concerted advocacy effort by AFB involving
testimony and evidence to show that approximately 50 percent of currently
published eBooks are inaccessible for people who are blind or partially
sighted.

"This is a major victory, but there is more work to do,"
continued Augusto.  "AFB will continue to work with Congress, the Librarian
and publishers to ensure future titles are fully accessible for people with
visual impairments." DMCA, which became U.S.  law in 1998, makes it a felony
to develop or use technology to get around security provisions of various
classes of intellectual property including software, ebooks, DVD movies and
audio, among others.

The Librarian's ruling provides an exemption for: "Literary works
distributed in eBook format when all existing eBook editions of the work
(including digital text editions made available by authorized entities)
contain access controls that prevent the enabling of the eBook's read-aloud
function and the enabling of screen readers to render the text into a
specialized format." Additional information about the DMCA and on this
ruling, including copies of all testimony, can be found on line at,
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/.



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Re: ide order for hard drives and cdrom drives

[Patrick Turnage]

Hello
Newer motherboards with newer IDE controllers permit the drive to use its
fastest speed possible.
sincerely,
Patrick


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(no subject)

[Darragh]

Hello
I've just being listening to the ACB radio main menu review of the gnome
screen reader.  How feasible is it for someone of my extremely limited
experience to set it up?

Thanks

Darragh

Re: (no subject)

[Alex Snow]

Hi All,
I have the same question.  how hard is this to install? and does it really
work as well as mark made it seem?
bc if so I'll chuck another 116mb of ram and another 5gb of drive into
here and take a look at it.

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On Wed, 7 May 2003, Darragh wrote:

> Hello
> I've just being listening to the ACB radio main menu review of the gnome
> screen reader.  How feasible is it for someone of my extremely limited
> experience to set it up?
>
> Thanks
>
> Darragh
>
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Re: (no subject)

[Thomas D. Ward]

Hi, my suggestion is wait for a stable release of gnopernicus. While it is
coming along nicely, it is beginning to work well with gnome 2.2, unless you
have all the requirements it is a little tuff to get setup.
At minimum you need a properly configured x-windows, recent gnome 2.2 build,
and to check out gnopernicus and any required updates from cvs.
I haven't played with it for a month or so, and I'm not sure what changes
have come up recently, but I will probably be getting back into it shortly.

Re: (no subject)

[Alex Snow]

Yeah that seems to be the general consensus among users...which i think is
a good idea...bc once it's stable you can actually do something useful
with it.

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On Wed, 7 May 2003, Thomas D. Ward wrote:

> Hi, my suggestion is wait for a stable release of gnopernicus. While it is
> coming along nicely, it is beginning to work well with gnome 2.2, unless you
> have all the requirements it is a little tuff to get setup.
> At minimum you need a properly configured x-windows, recent gnome 2.2 build,
> and to check out gnopernicus and any required updates from cvs.
> I haven't played with it for a month or so, and I'm not sure what changes
> have come up recently, but I will probably be getting back into it shortly.
>
>
>
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preparing my hard drive

[Glenn Ervin]

I am getting closer to installing RedHat.
I have downloaded the 8.0 ISO's and made CD images.
But since I ran F Disk, without setting any partitions, neither CMOS or
windows recognizes the 8 GB hard drive.
I tried running FIPS, but it says that it can only partition a DOS drive.
* Will Linux recognize this drive when I begin to install Linux, and will it
format & partition the drive?


"Live long and prosper",
O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
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Northeast Nebraska
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or my work e-mail:
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Re: preparing my hard drive

[Igor Gueths]

Ok did you remove all the partitions from the drive? Or are all fs's
corrupted? In anycase, fdisk measures drive geometry in either cylinders
or sectors so you can partition the disk using either measurement. I
believe distruid or something to that name is used under RH as the default
partitioning tool however other distros use fdisk. If you have fdisk
though, might as well use it as it works a bit better.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> I am getting closer to installing RedHat.
> I have downloaded the 8.0 ISO's and made CD images.
> But since I ran F Disk, without setting any partitions, neither CMOS or
> windows recognizes the 8 GB hard drive.
> I tried running FIPS, but it says that it can only partition a DOS drive.
> * Will Linux recognize this drive when I begin to install Linux, and will it
> format & partition the drive?
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
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(no subject)

[Patrick Turnage]

Hi.
My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
rebate.
The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
or floppy disk drive.
1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for.. 
My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
Thanks for the suggestions.
sincerely,
Patrick


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Re: (no subject)

[Glenn Ervin]

Patrick,
I would not purchase a laptop without putting my hands on it, as I have
found many laptops to have a good feel to them, i.e., the layout of the
keys, and the other various buttons.  Also, I have seen some laptops that
can be operated with the lid down, and I have seen some that do not.  I
prefer to use a laptop sometimes with a standard keyboard, and if the lid is
closed, you can strap the keyboard to the top.
Also, as far as the floppy disk, most people have an external floppy drive.
I'll bet that if it was a one time thing, like loading an authorization key,
you could take your laptop into a computer store and they would hook one up
and let you install the authorization key.
Well, that is my thoughts, for whatever it is worth.
Good luck finding what you want.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:20 PM
Subject: (no subject)


Hi.
My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
rebate.
The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
or floppy disk drive.
1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
Thanks for the suggestions.
sincerely,
Patrick


-----
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Re: (no subject)

[Maurice A. Mines]

hi you can use a usb folppy that's  whit I due btw you mite conseter  
baying pertishin magic to gget the drive  redy fore linux in the futecher.

Re: (no subject)

[Scott Howell]

You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to 
serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a 
feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for.. 
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
> 
> 
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Glenn Ervin]

You have to have a special USB to serial cable made, as USB usually puts out
power for a given device, and a serial device, as you know, uses a separate
power supply.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What
are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
>
>
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
>
>
>
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RE: (no subject)

[John Lee]

I heard it would, I haven't tried it.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:49 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: (no subject)


You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to 
serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a 
feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I 
> have a hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me

> the best deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars. I have 
> found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar 
> rebate. The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a

> serial port or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive?
What are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port
for.. 
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
> 
> 
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
> 
> 
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: (no subject)

[Maurice A. Mines]

on this subject this mite work in windows but it so fare wount't work in 
linux and setternley not work with speakup i think

Re: (no subject)

[Igor Gueths]

Hi Scott. I don't think it will work at the moment. Bc the USb sybsystem
doesn't init with the ttyS devices, so even then you wouldn't get speech
until later. I'd say your best bet is to use a pcmcia/cardbus serial
adapter or get a pci serial card if using a desktop.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
> serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
> feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> > Hi.
> > My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> > hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> > deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> > I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> > rebate.
> > The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> > or floppy disk drive.
> > 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
> > people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> > 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> > system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
> > speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> > My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> > pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > sincerely,
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Patrick Turnage
> > E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> > Home Page:
> > http://www.access-connect.com
> >
> >
> >
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: (no subject)

[Alex Snow]

Why computers are coming now with no serial port or flopy drive i don't
know.  I've been asked by many people to put together a computer without a
flopy drive, but I can't see the point since there's still a place for one,
and the drive only runs about $10 anyways.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


> Hi Scott. I don't think it will work at the moment. Bc the USb sybsystem
> doesn't init with the ttyS devices, so even then you wouldn't get speech
> until later. I'd say your best bet is to use a pcmcia/cardbus serial
> adapter or get a pci serial card if using a desktop.
>
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
>
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote:
>
> > You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
> > serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
> > feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I
have a
> > > hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the
best
> > > deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> > > I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200
dollar
> > > rebate.
> > > The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial
port
> > > or floppy disk drive.
> > > 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive?
What are
> > > people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> > > 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> > > system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> > > speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port
for..
> > > My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> > > pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > sincerely,
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Patrick Turnage
> > > E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > > AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> > > Home Page:
> > > http://www.access-connect.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: (no subject)

[Maurice A. Mines]

hi I just got of the the  with compusa and thay sale know pcmcia card that 
that will give youceral porcapable so you shud get a docking station 
depending on  your model of laptop as ffore your jfw question you shud get 
a usb floppy sory fore fore one of our list members bad manners.

Re: (no subject)

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123]

Are you really saying that if CompUSA doesn't have it, it can't be had??  
And as for your second point, I'd like to take this opportunity to 
second Kenny's comments regarding the JAWS question.  I can't see why, in 
the context of this list, any of us should give a flying flip about 
Windows or any of its expensive proprietary screen review packages.
-- 
           Bill in Denver


On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Maurice A. Mines wrote:

> hi I just got of the the  with compusa and thay sale know pcmcia card that 
> that will give youceral porcapable so you shud get a docking station 
> depending on  your model of laptop as ffore your jfw question you shud get 
> a usb floppy sory fore fore one of our list members bad manners.
> 
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Scott Howell]

Yes I agree, but then I wouldn't be purchasing a notebook without a 
serial port. So whomever was buying the notebook, find one that has the 
serial port and you'll be happier for it.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:22:43AM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi Scott. I don't think it will work at the moment. Bc the USb sybsystem
> doesn't init with the ttyS devices, so even then you wouldn't get speech
> until later. I'd say your best bet is to use a pcmcia/cardbus serial
> adapter or get a pci serial card if using a desktop.
> 
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
> 
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> > You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
> > serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
> > feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> > > hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> > > deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> > > I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> > > rebate.
> > > The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> > > or floppy disk drive.
> > > 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
> > > people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> > > 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> > > system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
> > > speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> > > My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> > > pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > sincerely,
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Patrick Turnage
> > > E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > > AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> > > Home Page:
> > > http://www.access-connect.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Erik Heil]

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, as far as installing JFW, just download the istro from the FS FTP seerver
and create a network share and just run it from an UNC path, and the SW
wwould install fine.  AS far as a floppy drive or serial port, you'll have
to look into a docking station, if one is even available for your model.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: (no subject)


> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What
are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
>
>
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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(no subject)

[Scott B. Berry]

a question or two for  Charles	Hi Charles,

Where do I find documentation and the actual program of Gnupernicus?

Re: (no subject)

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Here is the URL for information on gnopernicus:

http://www.baum.ro/gnopernicus.html

Chuck
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Scott B. Berry wrote:

> a question or two for  Charles	Hi Charles,
>
> Where do I find documentation and the actual program of Gnupernicus?
>
>
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Re: (no subject)

[David Poehlman]

eh?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: (no subject)


help

--
Ann K. Parsons
email:  akp@eznet.net ICQ Number:  33006854
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Re: (no subject)

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Sorry, mystyped.

Ann P.

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email:  akp@eznet.net 			ICQ Number:  33006854
WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
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(no subject)

[Ann Parsons]

help

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WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
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[Igor Gueths]

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[Janina Sajka]

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
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[Joey Weston]

testing

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[Michael]

Hello listers:

Can somebody send me the proper email address to unsubscribe from the list
temporarily?
  I'll subscribe again when my new account is activated.

Re: (no subject)

[Gregory Nowak]

Just look at the headers of messages from this list, and it is there.
Greg


On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:59:14PM -0330, Michael wrote:
> 
> Hello listers:
> 
> Can somebody send me the proper email address to unsubscribe from the list
> temporarily?
>   I'll subscribe again when my new account is activated.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Geoff Shang]

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Michael wrote:

> Can somebody send me the proper email address to unsubscribe from the list
> temporarily?

mailto:speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca?subject=unsubscribe

or you can visit the webpage whose link is at the bottom of every message
and do it there.

Geoff.

Re: (no subject)

[Charles Crawford]

Send a message with no subject or message in the body to 
ACB-L-unsubscribe@ACB.org and you will be unsubscribed.

-- Charlie.At 08:59 PM 12/30/2001 -03-30, you wrote:

>Hello listers:
>
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>temporarily?
>   I'll subscribe again when my new account is activated.
>
>
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RE: (no subject)

[Dawes, Stephen]

Speakup.octothorp.org is down for repairs, and it is hoped to be back up
sometime Tuesday, according to Bill.  Bill was telling me of the
problems with the server over the phone on the weekend.  

Patients folks, it will return.

Bill, I hope you don't mind my tell everyone of the outage.
Steve Dawes
PHONE:  (403) 268-5527. 
E-MAIL ADDRESS:  Stephen.Dawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca 




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael [mailto:michael.ryan@nf.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: 2001 October 27 9:30 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: (no subject)
> 
> 
> 
> High all:
> 
> Is the speakup.octothorp.org site down?
> When I tryed accessing, I got a reading folder error which 
> indicates to me
> that it is but I'm not sure.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
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(no subject)

[Deedra Waters]

Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.

Re: (no subject)

[Steve Holmes]

Yes, just build a boot disk like normal; that is, compile the kernel like
you may have done by new and place it on a disk formatted and set up for
booting. Then mark this to load a second floppy which would contain your
various utilities needed for a rescue disk set. I would look at the
bootdisk-howto for all the gorry details. It goes into detail as to what
to put on the bootdisk to make it work and how to create a rootdisk like
the distro folks do. You could even come up with multiple utility disks
for other rescue operations.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:

> Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
> I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: (no subject)

[Deedra Waters]

That helps, but I still don't understand how to do it, where to find the
how-to, or what I'd need to get it back.
Basically what I need to do is format my windows partision and reinstall
because it's got a virus. once I do that I'll need a boot, or rescue disk
to get back into linux to fix the boot menu. but I don't know how to
create the disk with speakup built in.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:

> Yes, just build a boot disk like normal; that is, compile the kernel like
> you may have done by new and place it on a disk formatted and set up for
> booting. Then mark this to load a second floppy which would contain your
> various utilities needed for a rescue disk set. I would look at the
> bootdisk-howto for all the gorry details. It goes into detail as to what
> to put on the bootdisk to make it work and how to create a rootdisk like
> the distro folks do. You could even come up with multiple utility disks
> for other rescue operations.
> 
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:
> 
> > Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
> > I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: (no subject)

[Steve Holmes]

This rescue disk should work much the same way your bootdisks do for
Debian. I assume you made a boot disk for your Debian setup? If not, I'm
sorry for the assumpsion. The HOWTO's should have come with your distro; I
don't know where they are for Debian. In Slackware, they can be found in
the howto package under the F series. There is a bootdisk howto in there
that covers all of this. There's quite a bit of detail to go into and I
think it would be too much for a single e-mail. Plus I doubt I could
recall all the steps from the top of my head either. Hence I point to the
HOWTO again. Sorry for not offering specific answers here.

One brief summary I can try to give here is your boot disk should cause a
RAM disk to be built and prompt you to put in a second disk during the
boot process. Slackware does this for all their boot/root disk combos.
This second root / rescue disk gets unloaded into /dev/ram0 where the root
system actually exists for this session. If your hard disk was still
functioning, you could mount it manually and manipulate the data as
needed. Does this make it any clearer?

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:

>
> That helps, but I still don't understand how to do it, where to find the
> how-to, or what I'd need to get it back.
> Basically what I need to do is format my windows partision and reinstall
> because it's got a virus. once I do that I'll need a boot, or rescue disk
> to get back into linux to fix the boot menu. but I don't know how to
> create the disk with speakup built in.
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
> > Yes, just build a boot disk like normal; that is, compile the kernel like
> > you may have done by new and place it on a disk formatted and set up for
> > booting. Then mark this to load a second floppy which would contain your
> > various utilities needed for a rescue disk set. I would look at the
> > bootdisk-howto for all the gorry details. It goes into detail as to what
> > to put on the bootdisk to make it work and how to create a rootdisk like
> > the distro folks do. You could even come up with multiple utility disks
> > for other rescue operations.
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:
> >
> > > Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
> > > I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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Re: (no subject)

[Kerry Hoath]

Why not use the Debian rescue disk set
that you allready have as your rescue disks?
Simply write out 2 disks the boot floppy (off the speakup site)
and t he root floppy off the speakup site.
Boot the set; switch disks when required and then alt-f2 into a shell.
I have fixed lilo from here in the past; assuming you
are using lilo to control what boots.

Regards, Kerry.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:12:33AM -0500, Deedra Waters wrote:
> 
> That helps, but I still don't understand how to do it, where to find the
> how-to, or what I'd need to get it back.
> Basically what I need to do is format my windows partision and reinstall
> because it's got a virus. once I do that I'll need a boot, or rescue disk
> to get back into linux to fix the boot menu. but I don't know how to
> create the disk with speakup built in.
> 
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
> > Yes, just build a boot disk like normal; that is, compile the kernel like
> > you may have done by new and place it on a disk formatted and set up for
> > booting. Then mark this to load a second floppy which would contain your
> > various utilities needed for a rescue disk set. I would look at the
> > bootdisk-howto for all the gorry details. It goes into detail as to what
> > to put on the bootdisk to make it work and how to create a rootdisk like
> > the distro folks do. You could even come up with multiple utility disks
> > for other rescue operations.
> > 
> > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > 
> > > Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
> > > I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> 
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ICQ UIN: 8226547

Re: (no subject)

[Deedra Waters]

not using lilo, but that's another matter...  I had help installing  this,
so really have no rescue disks for it at all. have never made thsm.
honestly, if I got the disks off of the speakup sight I have no clue how
to make them anyway. that's why I'm asking for help because I have no clue
how to build them:p

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Kerry Hoath wrote:

> Why not use the Debian rescue disk set
> that you allready have as your rescue disks?
> Simply write out 2 disks the boot floppy (off the speakup site)
> and t he root floppy off the speakup site.
> Boot the set; switch disks when required and then alt-f2 into a shell.
> I have fixed lilo from here in the past; assuming you
> are using lilo to control what boots.
> 
> Regards, Kerry.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:12:33AM -0500, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > 
> > That helps, but I still don't understand how to do it, where to find the
> > how-to, or what I'd need to get it back.
> > Basically what I need to do is format my windows partision and reinstall
> > because it's got a virus. once I do that I'll need a boot, or rescue disk
> > to get back into linux to fix the boot menu. but I don't know how to
> > create the disk with speakup built in.
> > 
> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > 
> > > Yes, just build a boot disk like normal; that is, compile the kernel like
> > > you may have done by new and place it on a disk formatted and set up for
> > > booting. Then mark this to load a second floppy which would contain your
> > > various utilities needed for a rescue disk set. I would look at the
> > > bootdisk-howto for all the gorry details. It goes into detail as to what
> > > to put on the bootdisk to make it work and how to create a rootdisk like
> > > the distro folks do. You could even come up with multiple utility disks
> > > for other rescue operations.
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
> > > > I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> -- 
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Re: (no subject)

[Deedra Waters]

ok, I'm looking at the speakup ftp websight, and I've read the readme
files, and  think I know how to make the rescue and root disks, but, I
don't see the files I need, and don't understand the structure of the
websight at all, so even mor confused now than I was before:p

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Kerry Hoath wrote:

> Why not use the Debian rescue disk set
> that you allready have as your rescue disks?
> Simply write out 2 disks the boot floppy (off the speakup site)
> and t he root floppy off the speakup site.
> Boot the set; switch disks when required and then alt-f2 into a shell.
> I have fixed lilo from here in the past; assuming you
> are using lilo to control what boots.
> 
> Regards, Kerry.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:12:33AM -0500, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > 
> > That helps, but I still don't understand how to do it, where to find the
> > how-to, or what I'd need to get it back.
> > Basically what I need to do is format my windows partision and reinstall
> > because it's got a virus. once I do that I'll need a boot, or rescue disk
> > to get back into linux to fix the boot menu. but I don't know how to
> > create the disk with speakup built in.
> > 
> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > 
> > > Yes, just build a boot disk like normal; that is, compile the kernel like
> > > you may have done by new and place it on a disk formatted and set up for
> > > booting. Then mark this to load a second floppy which would contain your
> > > various utilities needed for a rescue disk set. I would look at the
> > > bootdisk-howto for all the gorry details. It goes into detail as to what
> > > to put on the bootdisk to make it work and how to create a rootdisk like
> > > the distro folks do. You could even come up with multiple utility disks
> > > for other rescue operations.
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
> > > > I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or  kerry@gotss.spice.net.au
> ICQ UIN: 8226547
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: (no subject)

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  Did you install your system from a CD-ROM?  If so, did it
speak during the install?  If you didn't have speech during the install,
how did you get speech?
You will need to use the install program to get your Debian system 
back.  You choose a few options in the install program to re-install lilo.
I can try to give you info on how to create floppies, but you will need to
be in DOS to do it.  If you have a bootable CD-ROM with speakup it will be
easier.

          Kenny

on Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 05:48:41PM -0500, Deedra Waters wrote:
> ok, I'm looking at the speakup ftp websight, and I've read the readme
> files, and  think I know how to make the rescue and root disks, but, I
> don't see the files I need, and don't understand the structure of the
> websight at all, so even mor confused now than I was before:p
> 
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Kerry Hoath wrote:
> 
> > Why not use the Debian rescue disk set
> > that you allready have as your rescue disks?
> > Simply write out 2 disks the boot floppy (off the speakup site)
> > and t he root floppy off the speakup site.
> > Boot the set; switch disks when required and then alt-f2 into a shell.
> > I have fixed lilo from here in the past; assuming you
> > are using lilo to control what boots.
> > 
> > Regards, Kerry.
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:12:33AM -0500, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > > 
> > > That helps, but I still don't understand how to do it, where to find the
> > > how-to, or what I'd need to get it back.
> > > Basically what I need to do is format my windows partision and reinstall
> > > because it's got a virus. once I do that I'll need a boot, or rescue disk
> > > to get back into linux to fix the boot menu. but I don't know how to
> > > create the disk with speakup built in.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Yes, just build a boot disk like normal; that is, compile the kernel like
> > > > you may have done by new and place it on a disk formatted and set up for
> > > > booting. Then mark this to load a second floppy which would contain your
> > > > various utilities needed for a rescue disk set. I would look at the
> > > > bootdisk-howto for all the gorry details. It goes into detail as to what
> > > > to put on the bootdisk to make it work and how to create a rootdisk like
> > > > the distro folks do. You could even come up with multiple utility disks
> > > > for other rescue operations.
> > > > 
> > > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Is  there a way to make a rescue type disk with speakup built into it?
> > > > > I'm using debian and need to make a disk like this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or  kerry@gotss.spice.net.au
> > ICQ UIN: 8226547
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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[Michael]

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You can add me to that list as well.  
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[Whitley GS11 Cecil H]

Hi,
Where do you find the kernel source rpms for redhat 7.1?  I tried
kernel-2.4.3-12.src.rpm
But it put files in
/usr/src/redhat/sources
But nothing in /usr/src/linux-2.4 where it is "supposed" to be.  What
file(s) should I be installing?

While i'm writing, I have another general linux question...  Module
parameters, where do they go?  modules.conf???  There are entries like:
alias eth0 eepro100
Which is the right module, can I modify that line like:
alias eth0 epro100 set_speed_mode=4
where set_speed_mode=4 is the parameter (from the docs), would this load
that module with that parameter set?  I have tried man pages, etc but it's
all clear as mud right now.
Cecil

(no subject)

[mo.valli]

Gang,

I've downloaded the redhat 7.1 boot disk from
ftp://speakup.octothorp.org/pub/redhat-7.1/d1/images/
Whilst using this disk to install from a CDROM, I can navigate using the num
pad until I skip the keyboard selection, after which the num pad does not
respond. Is there any way around this?


Kind regards

Mo.

Re: (no subject)

[Janina Sajka]

When you're asked to choose your keyboard type, you must choose the 
Speakup keyboard map. This is what gives you screen review. In other 
words, do not select U.S. or U.K. Only Speakup and Speakup LT for some 
notebook machines are correct answers.



On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 mo.valli@bt.com wrote:

> Gang,
> 
> I've downloaded the redhat 7.1 boot disk from
> ftp://speakup.octothorp.org/pub/redhat-7.1/d1/images/
> Whilst using this disk to install from a CDROM, I can navigate using the num
> pad until I skip the keyboard selection, after which the num pad does not
> respond. Is there any way around this?
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mo.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp

RE: (no subject)

[Tim Burgess]

Hi,

Is it possible to change this map after installation?  I must have missed
this trick and just went for the default key map and I'm getting no review
keys either.

Thanks in advance.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: 03 October 2001 14:48
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: (no subject)


When you're asked to choose your keyboard type, you must choose the
Speakup keyboard map. This is what gives you screen review. In other
words, do not select U.S. or U.K. Only Speakup and Speakup LT for some
notebook machines are correct answers.



On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 mo.valli@bt.com wrote:

> Gang,
>
> I've downloaded the redhat 7.1 boot disk from
> ftp://speakup.octothorp.org/pub/redhat-7.1/d1/images/
> Whilst using this disk to install from a CDROM, I can navigate using the
num
> pad until I skip the keyboard selection, after which the num pad does not
> respond. Is there any way around this?
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Mo.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

--

				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

(no subject)

[Joshua Lambert]

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(no subject)

[Joshua Lambert]

> 
> Return-Path: <jlambert@shellyeah.org>
> Received: (qmail 15212 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2001 18:59:08 -0000
> Received: from zippy.shellyeah.org (jlambert@140.186.112.25)
>   by zippy.shellyeah.org with SMTP; 29 May 2001 18:59:08 -0000
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:59:08 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Joshua Lambert <jlambert@shellyeah.org>
> To: speakup@bumpy.braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: slackware stuff
> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0105291457320.15122-100000@zippy.shellyeah.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> My thought was to utilize a loadlin-based batch file.  One kernel, all the
> synths, the root disk of your choice, and different lines of the batch
> file to pass various speakup and other commands to a
> kernel.  Unfortunately, the 2.4.5 config files aren't available, so I
> can't get a head start on this.
> 
> 
> 

(no subject)

[Gregory Nowak]

a sort of dumb memory questionSubject: 
--text follows this line--
Hi all,

I was wondering ... do I need to create a swap partition if I have 128 Mb of physical RAM?
Greg

Re: (no subject)

[Shaun Oliver]

I wouldn't bother.

Shaun..
"Has anyone ever tasted an "END"? Are they really bitter?"
EMAIL: shauno@goanna.net.au ICQ: 76958435
YAHOO ID: blindman01_2000 IRC NICK/SERVER: |3|1ndm4n on #aussiefriends on
www.jong.com:6667

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> a sort of dumb memory questionSubject: 
> --text follows this line--
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering ... do I need to create a swap partition if I have 128 Mb of physical RAM?
> Greg
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: (no subject)

[Kirk Wood]

I wouldn't say it is a dumb question. You may be able to live without the
swap just fine. (I have never tried.) But I would make the swap partition
anyway. If you have it and don't need it, no harm done. If you need it and
don't have it, you end up out of memory.

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.

(no subject)

[Jim Danley]

subscribe

(no subject)

[Jim Danley]

who

Re: (no subject)

[Kirk Wood]

On Sun, 6 May 2001, Jim Danley wrote:
> who

Umm, I don't know either. But if you find out let us know.

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.

(no subject)

[Ken Perry]

Still trying to remove myself from this email list

Ken

Re: (no subject)

[Geoff Shang]

Hi Ken:

I think the list processor address for this list is
speakup-request@braille.uwo.ca

Geoff.


-- 
Geoff Shang <gshang10@scu.edu.au>
ICQ number 43634701

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[Joseph Norton]

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