preparing my hard drive

preparing my hard drive

[Glenn Ervin]

I am getting closer to installing RedHat.
I have downloaded the 8.0 ISO's and made CD images.
But since I ran F Disk, without setting any partitions, neither CMOS or
windows recognizes the 8 GB hard drive.
I tried running FIPS, but it says that it can only partition a DOS drive.
* Will Linux recognize this drive when I begin to install Linux, and will it
format & partition the drive?


"Live long and prosper",
O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
N0YJV
Northeast Nebraska
e-mail:
glennervin@cableone.net
The above address can also be found on MSM.
or my work e-mail:
gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us

Re: preparing my hard drive

[Igor Gueths]

Ok did you remove all the partitions from the drive? Or are all fs's
corrupted? In anycase, fdisk measures drive geometry in either cylinders
or sectors so you can partition the disk using either measurement. I
believe distruid or something to that name is used under RH as the default
partitioning tool however other distros use fdisk. If you have fdisk
though, might as well use it as it works a bit better.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> I am getting closer to installing RedHat.
> I have downloaded the 8.0 ISO's and made CD images.
> But since I ran F Disk, without setting any partitions, neither CMOS or
> windows recognizes the 8 GB hard drive.
> I tried running FIPS, but it says that it can only partition a DOS drive.
> * Will Linux recognize this drive when I begin to install Linux, and will it
> format & partition the drive?
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

Re: preparing my hard drive

[Glenn Ervin]

Hi Igor,
I used fDisk.
I removed all partitions.
I removed the extended DOS partition.
I guess I can get into it in DOS, but that is after it fails reading the
drive.
And I guess that since there is no file and directory structure, it cannot
be read from, hence the error, and that is why windows cannot recognize it.
But, will Linux see it when I run the installation of Linux, and
automatically run a partition program?
I seemed to gather that this might happen, but I want to make sure.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: preparing my hard drive


Ok did you remove all the partitions from the drive? Or are all fs's
corrupted? In anycase, fdisk measures drive geometry in either cylinders
or sectors so you can partition the disk using either measurement. I
believe distruid or something to that name is used under RH as the default
partitioning tool however other distros use fdisk. If you have fdisk
though, might as well use it as it works a bit better.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> I am getting closer to installing RedHat.
> I have downloaded the 8.0 ISO's and made CD images.
> But since I ran F Disk, without setting any partitions, neither CMOS or
> windows recognizes the 8 GB hard drive.
> I tried running FIPS, but it says that it can only partition a DOS drive.
> * Will Linux recognize this drive when I begin to install Linux, and will
it
> format & partition the drive?
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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Re: preparing my hard drive

[Igor Gueths]

Hi there. Fdisk and fdisk for Linux are different programs, so yes, it
should work.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> Hi Igor,
> I used fDisk.
> I removed all partitions.
> I removed the extended DOS partition.
> I guess I can get into it in DOS, but that is after it fails reading the
> drive.
> And I guess that since there is no file and directory structure, it cannot
> be read from, hence the error, and that is why windows cannot recognize it.
> But, will Linux see it when I run the installation of Linux, and
> automatically run a partition program?
> I seemed to gather that this might happen, but I want to make sure.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: preparing my hard drive
>
>
> Ok did you remove all the partitions from the drive? Or are all fs's
> corrupted? In anycase, fdisk measures drive geometry in either cylinders
> or sectors so you can partition the disk using either measurement. I
> believe distruid or something to that name is used under RH as the default
> partitioning tool however other distros use fdisk. If you have fdisk
> though, might as well use it as it works a bit better.
>
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
>
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:
>
> > I am getting closer to installing RedHat.
> > I have downloaded the 8.0 ISO's and made CD images.
> > But since I ran F Disk, without setting any partitions, neither CMOS or
> > windows recognizes the 8 GB hard drive.
> > I tried running FIPS, but it says that it can only partition a DOS drive.
> > * Will Linux recognize this drive when I begin to install Linux, and will
> it
> > format & partition the drive?
> >
> >
> > "Live long and prosper",
> > O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> > N0YJV
> > Northeast Nebraska
> > e-mail:
> > glennervin@cableone.net
> > The above address can also be found on MSM.
> > or my work e-mail:
> > gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> >
> >
> >
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: preparing my hard drive

[Scott Howell]

It does not matter if the drive has paritions or not. Any disk 
partitioning software will see the drive. The reason why dos can not see 
the drive when you boot it is simply cause there's no file system on it. 
Linux will see it or more accurately the disk paritioning software will 
see it. You need to be more concerned with if the kernel sees it upon 
boot. I think you'll have no problems with taht at all if dos is failing 
cause it sees no partition then the Linux kernel will see the hardware.
Don't worry about it until it becomes a problem and then worry about who 
os sees the drive. At this point your unnecessarily focusing your energy 
on what may or may not be. I think you have verified the drive is 
functioning from a hardware point so there's little reason to hold off. 
Good luck and let us know if you have any issues arrise.


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 08:59:50AM -0600, Glenn Ervin wrote:
> Hi Igor,
> I used fDisk.
> I removed all partitions.
> I removed the extended DOS partition.
> I guess I can get into it in DOS, but that is after it fails reading the
> drive.
> And I guess that since there is no file and directory structure, it cannot
> be read from, hence the error, and that is why windows cannot recognize it.
> But, will Linux see it when I run the installation of Linux, and
> automatically run a partition program?
> I seemed to gather that this might happen, but I want to make sure.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: preparing my hard drive
> 
> 
> Ok did you remove all the partitions from the drive? Or are all fs's
> corrupted? In anycase, fdisk measures drive geometry in either cylinders
> or sectors so you can partition the disk using either measurement. I
> believe distruid or something to that name is used under RH as the default
> partitioning tool however other distros use fdisk. If you have fdisk
> though, might as well use it as it works a bit better.
> 
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
> 
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:
> 
> > I am getting closer to installing RedHat.
> > I have downloaded the 8.0 ISO's and made CD images.
> > But since I ran F Disk, without setting any partitions, neither CMOS or
> > windows recognizes the 8 GB hard drive.
> > I tried running FIPS, but it says that it can only partition a DOS drive.
> > * Will Linux recognize this drive when I begin to install Linux, and will
> it
> > format & partition the drive?
> >
> >
> > "Live long and prosper",
> > O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> > N0YJV
> > Northeast Nebraska
> > e-mail:
> > glennervin@cableone.net
> > The above address can also be found on MSM.
> > or my work e-mail:
> > gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
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(no subject)

[Patrick Turnage]

Hi.
My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
rebate.
The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
or floppy disk drive.
1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for.. 
My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
Thanks for the suggestions.
sincerely,
Patrick


-----
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Re: (no subject)

[Glenn Ervin]

Patrick,
I would not purchase a laptop without putting my hands on it, as I have
found many laptops to have a good feel to them, i.e., the layout of the
keys, and the other various buttons.  Also, I have seen some laptops that
can be operated with the lid down, and I have seen some that do not.  I
prefer to use a laptop sometimes with a standard keyboard, and if the lid is
closed, you can strap the keyboard to the top.
Also, as far as the floppy disk, most people have an external floppy drive.
I'll bet that if it was a one time thing, like loading an authorization key,
you could take your laptop into a computer store and they would hook one up
and let you install the authorization key.
Well, that is my thoughts, for whatever it is worth.
Good luck finding what you want.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:20 PM
Subject: (no subject)


Hi.
My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
rebate.
The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
or floppy disk drive.
1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
Thanks for the suggestions.
sincerely,
Patrick


-----
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E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
Home Page:
http://www.access-connect.com



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Re: (no subject)

[Maurice A. Mines]

hi you can use a usb folppy that's  whit I due btw you mite conseter  
baying pertishin magic to gget the drive  redy fore linux in the futecher.

Laptops Issues!

[John Lee]

Hi,

You can use an adapter from serial to USB.
You may have to use a USB floppy die to get the key on the laptop.
The only other solution is buy a dongle from Freedom Scientific, which
seems to be expensive.

John

Re: Laptops Issues!

[Maurice A. Mines]

btw I have not found that thoes adapters work in linux at all so fare I  
have one froum belcon and it can't hand dole at all enay sujestions?

Re: (no subject)

[Scott Howell]

You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to 
serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a 
feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for.. 
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
> 
> 
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
> 
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Glenn Ervin]

You have to have a special USB to serial cable made, as USB usually puts out
power for a given device, and a serial device, as you know, uses a separate
power supply.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What
are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
>
>
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
>
>
>
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RE: (no subject)

[John Lee]

I heard it would, I haven't tried it.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:49 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: (no subject)


You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to 
serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a 
feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I 
> have a hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me

> the best deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars. I have 
> found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar 
> rebate. The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a

> serial port or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive?
What are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port
for.. 
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
> 
> 
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Maurice A. Mines]

on this subject this mite work in windows but it so fare wount't work in 
linux and setternley not work with speakup i think

Re: (no subject)

[Igor Gueths]

Hi Scott. I don't think it will work at the moment. Bc the USb sybsystem
doesn't init with the ttyS devices, so even then you wouldn't get speech
until later. I'd say your best bet is to use a pcmcia/cardbus serial
adapter or get a pci serial card if using a desktop.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
> serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
> feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> > Hi.
> > My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> > hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> > deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> > I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> > rebate.
> > The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> > or floppy disk drive.
> > 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
> > people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> > 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> > system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
> > speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> > My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> > pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > sincerely,
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Patrick Turnage
> > E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> > Home Page:
> > http://www.access-connect.com
> >
> >
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Re: (no subject)

[Alex Snow]

Why computers are coming now with no serial port or flopy drive i don't
know.  I've been asked by many people to put together a computer without a
flopy drive, but I can't see the point since there's still a place for one,
and the drive only runs about $10 anyways.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


> Hi Scott. I don't think it will work at the moment. Bc the USb sybsystem
> doesn't init with the ttyS devices, so even then you wouldn't get speech
> until later. I'd say your best bet is to use a pcmcia/cardbus serial
> adapter or get a pci serial card if using a desktop.
>
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
>
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote:
>
> > You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
> > serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
> > feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I
have a
> > > hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the
best
> > > deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> > > I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200
dollar
> > > rebate.
> > > The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial
port
> > > or floppy disk drive.
> > > 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive?
What are
> > > people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> > > 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> > > system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> > > speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port
for..
> > > My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> > > pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > sincerely,
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Patrick Turnage
> > > E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > > AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> > > Home Page:
> > > http://www.access-connect.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: (no subject)

[Maurice A. Mines]

hi I just got of the the  with compusa and thay sale know pcmcia card that 
that will give youceral porcapable so you shud get a docking station 
depending on  your model of laptop as ffore your jfw question you shud get 
a usb floppy sory fore fore one of our list members bad manners.

Re: (no subject)

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123]

Are you really saying that if CompUSA doesn't have it, it can't be had??  
And as for your second point, I'd like to take this opportunity to 
second Kenny's comments regarding the JAWS question.  I can't see why, in 
the context of this list, any of us should give a flying flip about 
Windows or any of its expensive proprietary screen review packages.
-- 
           Bill in Denver


On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Maurice A. Mines wrote:

> hi I just got of the the  with compusa and thay sale know pcmcia card that 
> that will give youceral porcapable so you shud get a docking station 
> depending on  your model of laptop as ffore your jfw question you shud get 
> a usb floppy sory fore fore one of our list members bad manners.
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Scott Howell]

Yes I agree, but then I wouldn't be purchasing a notebook without a 
serial port. So whomever was buying the notebook, find one that has the 
serial port and you'll be happier for it.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:22:43AM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi Scott. I don't think it will work at the moment. Bc the USb sybsystem
> doesn't init with the ttyS devices, so even then you wouldn't get speech
> until later. I'd say your best bet is to use a pcmcia/cardbus serial
> adapter or get a pci serial card if using a desktop.
> 
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
> 
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> > You know I saw on Computer Geeks, http://www.computergeeks.com a usb to
> > serial adapter. I wonder if this would work for serial synths. I have a
> > feeling not, but I hope I'm wrong. ANyone know?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> > > hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> > > deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> > > I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> > > rebate.
> > > The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> > > or floppy disk drive.
> > > 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
> > > people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> > > 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> > > system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
> > > speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> > > My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> > > pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > > sincerely,
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
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> > > E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > > AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
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> > > http://www.access-connect.com
> > >
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JFW question was (no subject)

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  Why don't you ask about jaws on a windows list?  You can just
install Linux on it from a cd rom.  The screen reader won't cost
anything, and the people who created it  won't treat you like a criminal!

          Kenny

On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for.. 
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
> 
> 
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
> 
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Re: JFW question was (no subject)

[Glenn Ervin]

Aren't there some synthesizers that can use the parallel port?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@knology.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 9:15 AM
Subject: JFW question was (no subject)


Hi.  Why don't you ask about jaws on a windows list?  You can just
install Linux on it from a cd rom.  The screen reader won't cost
anything, and the people who created it  won't treat you like a criminal!

          Kenny

On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:20:04PM -0500, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What
are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
>
>
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
>
>
>
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Re: (no subject)

[Erik Heil]

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, as far as installing JFW, just download the istro from the FS FTP seerver
and create a network share and just run it from an UNC path, and the SW
wwould install fine.  AS far as a floppy drive or serial port, you'll have
to look into a docking station, if one is even available for your model.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: (no subject)


> Hi.
> My mom wanted me to do some shopping for notebooks for christmas. I have a
> hint that when I get home on december 20, she's going to ask me the best
> deal I found. She said no more than 1000 dollars.
> I have found the toshiba 1115-S103 from Bestbuy for 1099 with a 200 dollar
> rebate.
> The specifications look fine to me, except. It does not have a serial port
> or floppy disk drive.
> 1. How can I install jaws on a computer with no floppy disk drive? What
are
> people doing to boot the system? Aside from bootible cdrom.
> 2. What would be the best way to have serial devices accessable to the
> system? I may want to install Linux so having the serial port workable
with
> speakup is what I want. That is the only thing I use the serial port for..
> My mom has placed a few requirements on me, like the machine has to be
> pickupable from a store.. So I'm at the murcy of their pricing...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
> sincerely,
> Patrick
>
>
> -----
> Patrick Turnage
> E-mail: pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> AOL Instant Messenger: kg4dqk
> Home Page:
> http://www.access-connect.com
>
>
>
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