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From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello friends,
I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something similar
to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows screen
readers. Is there such an app?
The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So, I
am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
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There's one that's CLI based that springs to mine
yt-dlp
As for GUI based, not sure at all, all the ones I've run across are CLI
but work very well. IIRC the one you mentioned uses Youtube-DL. You want
something that uses yt-dlp since youtube-dl hasn't been updated for a
long, long time
On 11/22/21 15:50, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something similar
> to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows screen
> readers. Is there such an app?
>
> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So, I
> am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ibrahim
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list at redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
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From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I think you're using Mate desktop?? There is an available weather
applet.? To add it to your panel, use 'ctrl+f10, anywhere on the panel,
and choose "add to panel".? Search the menu and select Weather.? Once
that's tone, do a right-click on the panel applet, and set its
preferences. City is probably the one you're most interested in.? If you
want to track the weather in multiple cities, just add more weather
applets, and set each one for a different city.
HTH,
Dave? H.
On 11/22/21 10:50, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app.
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From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi Ibrahim,
youtube-dl is included in Slint.
To know more type:
youtube-dl --help
man youtube-dl
youtube-dl is somehow superseded by yt-dlp that I will package for Slint.
Cheers,
Didier
Le 22/11/2021 ? 16:50, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
> Hello friends,
>
> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something similar
> to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows screen
> readers. Is there such an app?
>
> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So, I
> am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ibrahim
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From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I dont know of any gui programs,
but you can try
www.mp3-now.com
Thanks,
Rob
On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something similar
> to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows screen
> readers. Is there such an app?
>
> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So, I
> am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ibrahim
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list at redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
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From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw)
I use ClipGrab on my Mac and Windows.
So I checked and it is on Linux as well.
www.clipgrab.org
Its a app image, no installation needed.
Use the flat review to click the download tab.
paste the youtube link in the edit field.
tab to the combo box to choose origonal, or mp3 audio .
pressing the down arrow in this combo box had no speech, so after
pressing down arrow, press tab, then shift tab to have the selection spoken.
Do the same for the quality combo box.
then tab to the grab this clip button and press the space bar.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Rob
On 11/22/21 11:59 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I dont know of any gui programs,
>
> but you can try
>
> www.mp3-now.com
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Hello friends,
>>
>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>
>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So,
>> I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ibrahim
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
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From: blinux-list @ UTC (permalink / raw)
thanks a million for suggesting this application. From the description,
this application sounds similar to Ponte's Media downloader.
Unfortunately, I could not run this executable image on my slint
desktop. Everytime I try to open it, I get a message that says there is
no application installed to open executable files, or such thing. It
gives me the option to search for one with yes or no, but the default
choice is no.
Since I am a beginner, I do not understand this message. I hit enter on
yes, but nothing happened.
Hoopefully someone who has experience with opening such files would help
me figure it out.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/22/21 1:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> I use ClipGrab on my Mac and Windows.
>
> So I checked and it is on Linux as well.
>
> www.clipgrab.org
>
> Its a app image, no installation needed.
>
>
> Use the flat review to click the download tab.
>
> paste the youtube link in the edit field.
>
> tab to the combo box to choose origonal, or mp3 audio .
>
> pressing the down arrow in this combo box had no speech, so after
> pressing down arrow, press tab, then shift tab to have the selection
> spoken.
>
> Do the same for the quality combo box.
>
> then tab to the grab this clip button and press the space bar.
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On 11/22/21 11:59 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I dont know of any gui programs,
>>
>> but you can try
>>
>> www.mp3-now.com
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Hello friends,
>>>
>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>>
>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So,
>>> I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ibrahim
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Blinux-list at redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Hi,
You need to give it execute permission.
press alt plus enter
choose the permissions tab
check the execute checkbox.
Thanks,
Rob
On 11/23/21 11:31 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> thanks a million for suggesting this application. From the
> description, this application sounds similar to Ponte's Media downloader.
>
> Unfortunately, I could not run this executable image on my slint
> desktop. Everytime I try to open it, I get a message that says there
> is no application installed to open executable files, or such thing.
> It gives me the option to search for one with yes or no, but the
> default choice is no.
>
> Since I am a beginner, I do not understand this message. I hit enter
> on yes, but nothing happened.
>
> Hoopefully someone who has experience with opening such files would
> help me figure it out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ibrahim
>
> On 11/22/21 1:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> I use ClipGrab on my Mac and Windows.
>>
>> So I checked and it is on Linux as well.
>>
>> www.clipgrab.org
>>
>> Its a app image, no installation needed.
>>
>>
>> Use the flat review to click the download tab.
>>
>> paste the youtube link in the edit field.
>>
>> tab to the combo box to choose origonal, or mp3 audio .
>>
>> pressing the down arrow in this combo box had no speech, so after
>> pressing down arrow, press tab, then shift tab to have the selection
>> spoken.
>>
>> Do the same for the quality combo box.
>>
>> then tab to the grab this clip button and press the space bar.
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 11/22/21 11:59 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I dont know of any gui programs,
>>>
>>> but you can try
>>>
>>> www.mp3-now.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>>>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>>>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>>>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>>>
>>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>>>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all.
>>>> So, I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ibrahim
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Blinux-list at redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
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Hi Ibrahim,
installing snap packages needs the software snapd that I don't and won't
ship
in Slint, sorry.
On the the other hand I have failed to build ClipGrab from source on Slint
because our compiler suite is too old.
On a positive note Slackware-15RC2 is out, so hopefully Slackware 15 will be
released in a a no-so-distant future (not-so-distant=a few months). Then
I will
rebase Slint on Slackware 15 and there will be no issue building ClipGrab as
any other recent software version.
Meanwhile as I wrote you can use youtube-dl on the command line.
I also plan to provide its successor yt-dl no later that tomorrow, among a
batch that will also upgrade ffmpeg, vlc, mpv, upgrading associated
codecs and
adding a few ones.
Cheers,
Didier
Le 23/11/2021 ? 17:31, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
> thanks a million for suggesting this application. From the description,
> this application sounds similar to Ponte's Media downloader.
>
> Unfortunately, I could not run this executable image on my slint
> desktop. Everytime I try to open it, I get a message that says there is
> no application installed to open executable files, or such thing. It
> gives me the option to search for one with yes or no, but the default
> choice is no.
>
> Since I am a beginner, I do not understand this message. I hit enter on
> yes, but nothing happened.
>
> Hoopefully someone who has experience with opening such files would help
> me figure it out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ibrahim
>
> On 11/22/21 1:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> I use ClipGrab on my Mac and Windows.
>>
>> So I checked and it is on Linux as well.
>>
>> www.clipgrab.org
>>
>> Its a app image, no installation needed.
>>
>>
>> Use the flat review to click the download tab.
>>
>> paste the youtube link in the edit field.
>>
>> tab to the combo box to choose origonal, or mp3 audio .
>>
>> pressing the down arrow in this combo box had no speech, so after
>> pressing down arrow, press tab, then shift tab to have the selection
>> spoken.
>>
>> Do the same for the quality combo box.
>>
>> then tab to the grab this clip button and press the space bar.
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 11/22/21 11:59 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I dont know of any gui programs,
>>>
>>> but you can try
>>>
>>> www.mp3-now.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>>>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>>>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>>>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>>>
>>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>>>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So,
>>>> I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ibrahim
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
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Thanks Didier,
I will wait for tomorrow until you update with the more advanced
version. The problem is that I am not comfortable with command line
applications. That is why I was hoping to find a GUI app.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/23/21 1:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hi Ibrahim,
>
> installing snap packages needs the software snapd that I don't and
> won't ship
> in Slint, sorry.
>
> On the the other hand I have failed to build ClipGrab from source on
> Slint
> because our compiler suite is too old.
>
> On a positive note Slackware-15RC2 is out, so hopefully Slackware 15
> will be
> released in a a no-so-distant future (not-so-distant=a few months).
> Then I will
> rebase Slint on Slackware 15 and there will be no issue building
> ClipGrab as
> any other recent software version.
>
> Meanwhile as I wrote you can use youtube-dl on the command line.
>
> I also plan to provide its successor yt-dl no later that tomorrow,
> among a
> batch that will also upgrade ffmpeg, vlc, mpv, upgrading associated
> codecs and
> adding a few ones.
>
> Cheers,
> Didier
>
> Le 23/11/2021 ? 17:31, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>> thanks a million for suggesting this application. From the
>> description, this application sounds similar to Ponte's Media
>> downloader.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I could not run this executable image on my slint
>> desktop. Everytime I try to open it, I get a message that says there
>> is no application installed to open executable files, or such thing.
>> It gives me the option to search for one with yes or no, but the
>> default choice is no.
>>
>> Since I am a beginner, I do not understand this message. I hit enter
>> on yes, but nothing happened.
>>
>> Hoopefully someone who has experience with opening such files would
>> help me figure it out.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ibrahim
>>
>> On 11/22/21 1:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> I use ClipGrab on my Mac and Windows.
>>>
>>> So I checked and it is on Linux as well.
>>>
>>> www.clipgrab.org
>>>
>>> Its a app image, no installation needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Use the flat review to click the download tab.
>>>
>>> paste the youtube link in the edit field.
>>>
>>> tab to the combo box to choose origonal, or mp3 audio .
>>>
>>> pressing the down arrow in this combo box had no speech, so after
>>> pressing down arrow, press tab, then shift tab to have the selection
>>> spoken.
>>>
>>> Do the same for the quality combo box.
>>>
>>> then tab to the grab this clip button and press the space bar.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On 11/22/21 11:59 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I dont know of any gui programs,
>>>>
>>>> but you can try
>>>>
>>>> www.mp3-now.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>>>>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>>>>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>>>>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>>>>
>>>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app.
>>>>> I tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all.
>>>>> So, I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ibrahim
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
>
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Thanks Rob,
I tried your suggestion and selected the execute checkbox, but even after doing that it did not run. I think it is because I do not have snapped installed on my Slint as Didier suggested.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 23, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> ?Hi,
>
> You need to give it execute permission.
>
> press alt plus enter
>
> choose the permissions tab
>
> check the execute checkbox.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
>> On 11/23/21 11:31 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> thanks a million for suggesting this application. From the description, this application sounds similar to Ponte's Media downloader.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I could not run this executable image on my slint desktop. Everytime I try to open it, I get a message that says there is no application installed to open executable files, or such thing. It gives me the option to search for one with yes or no, but the default choice is no.
>>
>> Since I am a beginner, I do not understand this message. I hit enter on yes, but nothing happened.
>>
>> Hoopefully someone who has experience with opening such files would help me figure it out.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ibrahim
>>
>>> On 11/22/21 1:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> I use ClipGrab on my Mac and Windows.
>>>
>>> So I checked and it is on Linux as well.
>>>
>>> www.clipgrab.org
>>>
>>> Its a app image, no installation needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Use the flat review to click the download tab.
>>>
>>> paste the youtube link in the edit field.
>>>
>>> tab to the combo box to choose origonal, or mp3 audio .
>>>
>>> pressing the down arrow in this combo box had no speech, so after pressing down arrow, press tab, then shift tab to have the selection spoken.
>>>
>>> Do the same for the quality combo box.
>>>
>>> then tab to the grab this clip button and press the space bar.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On 11/22/21 11:59 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I dont know of any gui programs,
>>>>
>>>> but you can try
>>>>
>>>> www.mp3-now.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>>>>
>>>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So, I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ibrahim
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list at redhat.com
>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
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As I understand it, snapt is one of those Ubuntu-only things that
contribute to some long time Linux users disparaging Ubuntu as "too
much like Windows".
Sadly, best I can tell, the only options the clipgrab website seems to
offer is a Binary that requires a 64-bit Ubuntu system or compiling
from source... and if there's a package available for Debian, it must
be in the contrib or non-free repositories(which I don't have enabled)
since I can't find it in Aptitude.
On 11/23/21, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> Thanks Rob,
> I tried your suggestion and selected the execute checkbox, but even after
> doing that it did not run. I think it is because I do not have snapped
> installed on my Slint as Didier suggested.
> Cheers,
> Ibrahim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 23, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
>> <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi,
>>
>> You need to give it execute permission.
>>
>> press alt plus enter
>>
>> choose the permissions tab
>>
>> check the execute checkbox.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>> On 11/23/21 11:31 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> thanks a million for suggesting this application. From the description,
>>> this application sounds similar to Ponte's Media downloader.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I could not run this executable image on my slint desktop.
>>> Everytime I try to open it, I get a message that says there is no
>>> application installed to open executable files, or such thing. It gives
>>> me the option to search for one with yes or no, but the default choice is
>>> no.
>>>
>>> Since I am a beginner, I do not understand this message. I hit enter on
>>> yes, but nothing happened.
>>>
>>> Hoopefully someone who has experience with opening such files would help
>>> me figure it out.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ibrahim
>>>
>>>> On 11/22/21 1:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> I use ClipGrab on my Mac and Windows.
>>>>
>>>> So I checked and it is on Linux as well.
>>>>
>>>> www.clipgrab.org
>>>>
>>>> Its a app image, no installation needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Use the flat review to click the download tab.
>>>>
>>>> paste the youtube link in the edit field.
>>>>
>>>> tab to the combo box to choose origonal, or mp3 audio .
>>>>
>>>> pressing the down arrow in this combo box had no speech, so after
>>>> pressing down arrow, press tab, then shift tab to have the selection
>>>> spoken.
>>>>
>>>> Do the same for the quality combo box.
>>>>
>>>> then tab to the grab this clip button and press the space bar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/21 11:59 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont know of any gui programs,
>>>>>
>>>>> but you can try
>>>>>
>>>>> www.mp3-now.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/22/21 10:50 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>>>>>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something similar
>>>>>> to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows screen
>>>>>> readers. Is there such an app?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>>>>>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So, I
>>>>>> am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ibrahim
>>>>>>
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Snapd isn't just an Ubuntu thing. I have it on Fedora, and it's also available
from the AUR for Arch users. Flatpak is another similar type of cross-distro
packaging system, and it's available from the Arch community repository, Fedora
and Solus, and I think it's available for other distros as well.
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Just gonna chime in and say I have snaps on Solus out of the box as
well. Really, I don't care if it's 'too much like SWindows', if I can
get apps easier than having to install a bunch of packages I'll only
ever use once...it's a win win for me really
On 11/23/21 20:06, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Snapd isn't just an Ubuntu thing. I have it on Fedora, and it's also
> available from the AUR for Arch users. Flatpak is another similar type
> of cross-distro packaging system, and it's available from the Arch
> community repository, Fedora and Solus, and I think it's available for
> other distros as well.
> ~Kyle
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so long as you don't download any broken snaps you should be good to go.
I tried setting up weather in mate and couldn't get that done.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Just gonna chime in and say I have snaps on Solus out of the box as well.
> Really, I don't care if it's 'too much like SWindows', if I can get apps
> easier than having to install a bunch of packages I'll only ever use
> once...it's a win win for me really
>
> On 11/23/21 20:06, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > Snapd isn't just an Ubuntu thing. I have it on Fedora, and it's also
> > available from the AUR for Arch users. Flatpak is another similar type of
> > cross-distro packaging system, and it's available from the Arch community
> > repository, Fedora and Solus, and I think it's available for other distros
> > as well.
> > ~Kyle
> >
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Setting up the weather on the top panel of my desktop was not a problem.
The problem is that this weather application does not have my city
listed.? So I had to choose a city fourty miles to the north of where I
live, although my city is even bigger than the one listed.
Very strange indeed.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/23/21 4:54 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> so long as you don't download any broken snaps you should be good to go.
> I tried setting up weather in mate and couldn't get that done.
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
>> Just gonna chime in and say I have snaps on Solus out of the box as well.
>> Really, I don't care if it's 'too much like SWindows', if I can get apps
>> easier than having to install a bunch of packages I'll only ever use
>> once...it's a win win for me really
>>
>> On 11/23/21 20:06, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Snapd isn't just an Ubuntu thing. I have it on Fedora, and it's also
>>> available from the AUR for Arch users. Flatpak is another similar type of
>>> cross-distro packaging system, and it's available from the Arch community
>>> repository, Fedora and Solus, and I think it's available for other distros
>>> as well.
>>> ~Kyle
>>>
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Maybe it only shows cities with international arports?
-Dave
On 11/23/21 20:19, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> city listed.? So I had to choose a city fourty miles to the north of
> where I live, although my city is even bigger than the one listed.
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I have no idea,
I live in Rockville Maryland, in the United States. In Maryland they
list 11 areas and each of them has a number of sub-areas. My county
which is Montgomery county? was not listed at all. I also searched for
Rrockville MD and I found nothing.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/23/21 8:22 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Maybe it only shows cities with international arports?
>
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> On 11/23/21 20:19, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> city listed.? So I had to choose a city fourty miles to the north of
>> where I live, although my city is even bigger than the one listed.
>
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Hi Didier-and-All: Its interesting if I download the same youtube file with
both youtube-dl and yt-dlp, the size-and-length it takes to grab it are quite
different. I don't know whether I could point youtube-viewer to grab with
yt-dlp? Thanks in advance
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Hi Ibrahim and All,
yt-dlp is now provided for Slint.
I am little late because I took this occasion to upgrade ffmpeg, mpv and
vlc. mpv now uses yt-dlp as downloader if available.
To know more:
https://www.freelists.org/post/slint/audio-and-video-packages-upgraded
Cheers,
Didier
Le 22/11/2021 ? 16:50, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
> Hello friends,
>
> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something similar
> to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows screen
> readers. Is there such an app?
>
> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So, I
> am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ibrahim
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Hi Chime,
I think it will use yt-dlp if available (and maybe if youtube-dl is not?)
But you made me find a better one, fork of straw-viewer:
https://github.com/trizen/pipe-viewer
I just followed the instructions tp try it on Slint, having yt-dlp installed
and youtube-dl removed.
It worked. And pipe-viewer doesn't need a Google API.
Cheers,
Didier
Le 26/11/2021 ? 01:24, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
> Hi Didier-and-All: Its interesting if I download the same youtube file
> with both youtube-dl and yt-dlp, the size-and-length it takes to grab it
> are quite different. I don't know whether I could point youtube-viewer
> to grab with yt-dlp? Thanks in advance
> Chime
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Hello Didier,
Is this command necessary::
dotnew?(or?dot-new-gtk?in?a?graphical?environment).
I am under the impression that issuing this command would override my
customized settings. Am I correct?
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/25/21 8:05 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hi Ibrahim and All,
>
> yt-dlp is now provided for Slint.
>
> I am little late because I took this occasion to upgrade ffmpeg, mpv
> and vlc. mpv now uses yt-dlp as downloader if available.
>
> To know more:
> https://www.freelists.org/post/slint/audio-and-video-packages-upgraded
>
> Cheers,
> Didier
>
> Le 22/11/2021 ? 16:50, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>> Hello friends,
>>
>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>
>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So,
>> I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ibrahim
>
>
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Hello Ibrahim,
these commands list each configuration file shipped in a newly installed
package if a non identical file bearing the same name already exists,
and let
you decide what to do.
Initially the new file has been installed alongside the old one, its
name having
with the .new extension instead of .conf
Your choices are:
1. replace the old file by the new one. The old one will be backed up, the
suffix being changed from .conf to .orig
2. delete the new configuration file.
3. display the differences between the ols and the new file
4. use the application vimdiff (or gvimdiff in graphical mode) to
display the
differences between the old and the new file and let you cherry-pick the
ones
you want to apply
5 Do nothing. Then you can deal with the differences otherwise or run
dotnew or
gtk-dotnew later.
If you didn't customize the "old" configuration file, it is safe to
replace it
by the new one.
I should probably include these explanation in the Slint HandBook...
Cheers,
Didier
Le 26/11/2021 ? 03:01, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
> Hello Didier,
> Is this command necessary::
> dotnew?(or?dot-new-gtk?in?a?graphical?environment).
> I am under the impression that issuing this command would override my
> customized settings. Am I correct?
> Cheers,
> Ibrahim
>
> On 11/25/21 8:05 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Hi Ibrahim and All,
>>
>> yt-dlp is now provided for Slint.
>>
>> I am little late because I took this occasion to upgrade ffmpeg, mpv
>> and vlc. mpv now uses yt-dlp as downloader if available.
>>
>> To know more:
>> https://www.freelists.org/post/slint/audio-and-video-packages-upgraded
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Didier
>>
>> Le 22/11/2021 ? 16:50, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>> Hello friends,
>>>
>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>>
>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all. So,
>>> I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ibrahim
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hello Didier and all,
Thanks a million for updating the youtube-dl to yt-dlp. It made a huge
difference in terms of download speed. When I tried youtube-dl I was
disappointed. It took almost 15 minutes to download a five minutes
video. with yt-dlp it took half a minute to download the same video.
I have a question though. What is the correct format to specify the
folder where I want the downloaded tracks to go to? I tried -Folder,
--Folder and /Folder/ but it did not work. It simply dumped the tracks
on my desktop.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/26/21 5:02 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hello Ibrahim,
>
> these commands list each configuration file shipped in a newly installed
> package if a non identical file bearing the same name already exists,
> and let
> you decide what to do.
> Initially the new file has been installed alongside the old one, its
> name having
> with the .new extension instead of .conf
>
> Your choices are:
>
> 1. replace the old file by the new one. The old one will be backed up,
> the
> suffix being changed from .conf to .orig
> 2. delete the new configuration file.
> 3. display the differences between the ols and the new file
> 4. use the application vimdiff (or gvimdiff in graphical mode) to
> display the
> differences between the old and the new file and let you cherry-pick
> the ones
> you want to apply
> 5 Do nothing. Then you can deal with the differences otherwise or run
> dotnew or
> gtk-dotnew later.
>
> If you didn't customize the "old" configuration file, it is safe to
> replace it
> by the new one.
>
> I should probably include these explanation in the Slint HandBook...
>
> Cheers,
> Didier
>
>
> Le 26/11/2021 ? 03:01, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>> Hello Didier,
>> Is this command necessary::
>> dotnew?(or?dot-new-gtk?in?a?graphical?environment).
>> I am under the impression that issuing this command would override my
>> customized settings. Am I correct?
>> Cheers,
>> Ibrahim
>>
>> On 11/25/21 8:05 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Hi Ibrahim and All,
>>>
>>> yt-dlp is now provided for Slint.
>>>
>>> I am little late because I took this occasion to upgrade ffmpeg, mpv
>>> and vlc. mpv now uses yt-dlp as downloader if available.
>>>
>>> To know more:
>>> https://www.freelists.org/post/slint/audio-and-video-packages-upgraded
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Didier
>>>
>>> Le 22/11/2021 ? 16:50, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if there are good applications for downloading from
>>>> youtube that works well with linux! I am looking for something
>>>> similar to Ponte's media downloader which works well with windows
>>>> screen readers. Is there such an app?
>>>>
>>>> The second application I am hoping to find is a good weather app. I
>>>> tried to the weather on the terminal and did not like it at all.
>>>> So, I am hoping to find a better alternative that works on the gui.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ibrahim
>
>
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Hi Ibraham: Lacking any alterations in your config, I would just cd over to
where you want to save those files, before running yt-dlp. And if your files
come from links, such as an rss feed, then from L Y N X you can hit a capitol
c to change directories.
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Thanks Chime. I have not thought of this one. It is a great suggestion.
What I hate the most about terminal apps and command lines is having to remember so many options and parameters with dashes and slashes and commas and such.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> ?Hi Ibraham: Lacking any alterations in your config, I would just cd over to where you want to save those files, before running yt-dlp. And if your files come from links, such as an rss feed, then from L Y N X you can hit a capitol c to change directories.
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On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 12:25:31PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> What I hate the most about terminal apps and command lines is having to remember so many options and parameters with dashes and slashes and commas and such.
just use tab completion no need to remember.
> Cheers,
> Ibrahim
--
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Thanks for your idea Alexander.
I have not used the tab completion before and have no clear idea how it
works.
For example. I want to download a youtube track named drums, and store
it in my music folder. I have the youtube link for it. I do not want any
changes to the format of the track, so no need to use any particular
options. How would the tab completion work with yt-dlp?
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/27/21 12:37 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 12:25:31PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> What I hate the most about terminal apps and command lines is having to remember so many options and parameters with dashes and slashes and commas and such.
> just use tab completion no need to remember.
>
>> Cheers,
>> Ibrahim
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Well Ibraham, tab-complete will only work with files on your hard-drive or in
another remote shell. So you can use tab to complete a directory name or file,
but if there are more than 1, it will read you all choices-and-you can fill in
more letters to tab-complete to an exact name you want. But no, in most cases
tab-complete will not work in web-sites or youtube cases.
Also, please consider many files in Linux have capitalization, so that will
affect your first letter in a tab-complete.
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Thanks Chime. I will play a little more with Tab completion and see if I
can find some use for it. For the time being I am very happy that yt-dlp
is super fast in downloading compared to the youtube-dl which was slower
than a turtle.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/27/21 6:29 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Well Ibraham, tab-complete will only work with files on your
> hard-drive or in another remote shell. So you can use tab to complete
> a directory name or file, but if there are more than 1, it will read
> you all choices-and-you can fill in more letters to tab-complete to an
> exact name you want. But no, in most cases tab-complete will not work
> in web-sites or youtube cases.
> Also, please consider many files in Linux have capitalization, so that
> will affect your first letter in a tab-complete.
> Chime
>
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The two main places where tab completion comes into play are in not
having to type full names of commands with long names and making
specifying local files and directories as arguments to commands
quicker and less error prone.
For example, on my system, I have a directory of custom-made scripts
I've added to my path(the list of directories the cli searches for
executables matching the command provided). One of these scripts is
titled uncompress.sh and automates extracting all the .zip and .rar
files in the working directory to their own directory(so I don't end
up with files vomited all over my working directory if the zip/rar
lacks a single top level directory to contain everything else.
Instead of typing uncompress.sh manually, I
type unc (i need three litters because their are other commands
begining with un).
press tab to get uncompress(a standard alias of gunzip, the extract
for gzip archives that is standard on most Linux(and probably other
Unix-like systems) systems).
type a dott and press tab again to get the sh.
Another example is that I have rename.ul for batch renaming files, and
while there are other commands on my system starting with ren, I only
need to type rena and then tab to get the full command name...
Admittedly, completing command names can be of limited use with how
many of the most command commands are single, short words or
abbreviated down to just two or three letters(e.g. the standard file
management commands such as ls to list, rm to remove/delete, mv to
move, cp to copy, du for disc usage, wc for word count, cd to change
directory, mkdir to make directories and rmdir to remove
directories(granted, those last two are five letters each, but style,
very short command).
Where tab completion really shines is in providing a quick, error
resistent, means of not having to type out filenames and directories
in their intirety when providing them as command line arguments.
For example, say you have the following in your home directory:
Books
Desktop
Documents
Downloads
Games
Music
Photos
Except for the Ds, to change to any of those directories, you just
need to type cd, the first letter of the directory name, tab, and prss
enter, and at worse, you just need to type cd dow or cd doc before
doing a tab enter.
Or lets say the current directory contains somthing like:
Chapter 01.txt
Chapter 02.txt
Chapter 03.txt
...
Chapter 50.txt
and you want to open a specific chapter in the nano text editor. You
can type nano, a space, tab to get Chapter\ the number of the chapter
you want, then tab again for the .txt... and the tab completion
automatically adds the backslashes for spaces and any other characters
in the filename that need to be escaped.
And the keystroke savings can really stack up...
if you had a folder with files like:
absurdly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
bafflingly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
confusingly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
ludicrously absurdly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
ridiculous absurdly ludicrously long filename.extension
for each, you'd just need to type the first letter and tab to get the
rest, and all the backslashes would be added as needed.
Or lets say you have a directory structure like:
Documents
-College
--Biology
---Anatomy
---Metabolism
--Chemistry
---Ionic
---Covalent
---organic
--Math
---Calculus
---Statistics
---Linear Algebra
-Personal
--Letters
--Fiction
---fantasy
---Sci-Fi
--Essays
As long as no two items in the same subdirectory start with the same
letter, you could do something like type cd D tab C tab B tab A tab to
produce
cd Docuuments/College/Biology/Anatomy/
ANd if there is any point in that path where there's only one item at
a given level, you don't even need to type anything before tabbing
again(though, tab completion always pauses at a slash, but if you had
a very deep, unbranched directory tree, you could just hold tab to get
all the way to the bottom.
I'm long past the point where using tab completion is second nature,
but I hope these examples of how it works are helpful in understanding
how to use it.
But in general, it's most useful when either:
A. Every file/directory in a directory starts with a different letter.
B. Everything in a directory has the same beginning and the first
deviation is something like a number.
but even when the contents of a directory are more random, much of the
time, by the time you type the first word worth of unique characters,
a tab will take you, if not to the end, then two the point of entering
a number because there are files whose name differ only in a number or
an extension because you have files with names that are identical
excapt for the extension.
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An interesting thing, if as an example, I begin a youtube url with an opening
quote, I think an ending quote magicly appears? Also, there is a shell called
"yash" which handles tab-complete a bit differently. Instead of playing a
beep-and-showing all matching choices, YASH will just show 1 at a time. I think
each tab will show the next one or maybe arrow down. Since I am in TCSH, I
usually have fine luck with tab-complete.
Chime
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One place where I find tab completion quite useful is in things like the program
known as doctl, which interfaces to the DigitalOcean API, which I use to control
DNS for my website domains. This saves me a little time in most cases, as I
don't have to log into the website and find the necessary links, buttons and
controls to change a dns record. These days, I do this rather infrequently, so
going to the website is probably fine, but I still tend to use the doctl command
when I need to make a small change here or there, especially if I need to add a
temporary TXT record that I will be deleting in a short time.
This doctl program has a completion command that generates tab completions for
various shells. So even before I authorized doctl to connect to my account for
the first time, I just ran
doctl completion bash >> ~/.bashrc
and I get tab completions for all the commands and flags available on the doctl
command line. So for example, if I want to update an existing record, I would
normally need to run this command
doctl compute domain records update --record-id 123456789 --record-data 12.34.56.78
But with the completions in place, all I need to run is
doctl c <tab> do <tab> r <tab> u <tab> --r <tab> i <tab> 123456789 --r <tab> d
<tab> 12.34.56.78
Yes, I still have to get this record ID, which is in fact a 9-digit number in
many cases, but I can pipe
doctl c <tab> do <tab> r <tab> ls domain.ext
into a file and paste the ID I want into the update command. It is certainly a
roundabout way of doing things, but it can still be faster than logging into the
website and finding the DNS controls there. It would be really good to have a
zenity or yad interface to this program, and maybe I'll get around to scripting
something like this at some point. For now though, tab completion works quite
well here once the completion mappings are added, even if I'm just copying the
doctl configuration from one machine to another so tha I don't have to
reauthorize the program.
~Kyle
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Now that I think about it, don't some IDE offer tab completion on
functions found in a support language's standard libraries and names
of variables and functions defined within the source code file being
edited? It's been a long time since I used an IDE and it's a use case
that doesn't come up in an end user context, so it slipped my mind.
On 11/28/21, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com> wrote:
> One place where I find tab completion quite useful is in things like the
> program
> known as doctl, which interfaces to the DigitalOcean API, which I use to
> control
> DNS for my website domains. This saves me a little time in most cases, as I
>
> don't have to log into the website and find the necessary links, buttons and
>
> controls to change a dns record. These days, I do this rather infrequently,
> so
> going to the website is probably fine, but I still tend to use the doctl
> command
> when I need to make a small change here or there, especially if I need to
> add a
> temporary TXT record that I will be deleting in a short time.
>
> This doctl program has a completion command that generates tab completions
> for
> various shells. So even before I authorized doctl to connect to my account
> for
> the first time, I just ran
>
> doctl completion bash >> ~/.bashrc
>
>
> and I get tab completions for all the commands and flags available on the
> doctl
> command line. So for example, if I want to update an existing record, I
> would
> normally need to run this command
>
> doctl compute domain records update --record-id 123456789 --record-data
> 12.34.56.78
>
> But with the completions in place, all I need to run is
>
> doctl c <tab> do <tab> r <tab> u <tab> --r <tab> i <tab> 123456789 --r <tab>
> d
> <tab> 12.34.56.78
>
> Yes, I still have to get this record ID, which is in fact a 9-digit number
> in
> many cases, but I can pipe
>
> doctl c <tab> do <tab> r <tab> ls domain.ext
>
> into a file and paste the ID I want into the update command. It is certainly
> a
> roundabout way of doing things, but it can still be faster than logging into
> the
> website and finding the DNS controls there. It would be really good to have
> a
> zenity or yad interface to this program, and maybe I'll get around to
> scripting
> something like this at some point. For now though, tab completion works
> quite
> well here once the completion mappings are added, even if I'm just copying
> the
> doctl configuration from one machine to another so tha I don't have to
> reauthorize the program.
> ~Kyle
>
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Thanks a lot for this thorough explanation. It is extremely helpful. I
will save this email for my future reference.
Thanks a gain for this.
Cheers,
Ibrahim
On 11/27/21 8:02 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> The two main places where tab completion comes into play are in not
> having to type full names of commands with long names and making
> specifying local files and directories as arguments to commands
> quicker and less error prone.
>
> For example, on my system, I have a directory of custom-made scripts
> I've added to my path(the list of directories the cli searches for
> executables matching the command provided). One of these scripts is
> titled uncompress.sh and automates extracting all the .zip and .rar
> files in the working directory to their own directory(so I don't end
> up with files vomited all over my working directory if the zip/rar
> lacks a single top level directory to contain everything else.
>
> Instead of typing uncompress.sh manually, I
>
> type unc (i need three litters because their are other commands
> begining with un).
> press tab to get uncompress(a standard alias of gunzip, the extract
> for gzip archives that is standard on most Linux(and probably other
> Unix-like systems) systems).
> type a dott and press tab again to get the sh.
>
> Another example is that I have rename.ul for batch renaming files, and
> while there are other commands on my system starting with ren, I only
> need to type rena and then tab to get the full command name...
>
> Admittedly, completing command names can be of limited use with how
> many of the most command commands are single, short words or
> abbreviated down to just two or three letters(e.g. the standard file
> management commands such as ls to list, rm to remove/delete, mv to
> move, cp to copy, du for disc usage, wc for word count, cd to change
> directory, mkdir to make directories and rmdir to remove
> directories(granted, those last two are five letters each, but style,
> very short command).
>
> Where tab completion really shines is in providing a quick, error
> resistent, means of not having to type out filenames and directories
> in their intirety when providing them as command line arguments.
>
> For example, say you have the following in your home directory:
>
> Books
> Desktop
> Documents
> Downloads
> Games
> Music
> Photos
>
> Except for the Ds, to change to any of those directories, you just
> need to type cd, the first letter of the directory name, tab, and prss
> enter, and at worse, you just need to type cd dow or cd doc before
> doing a tab enter.
>
> Or lets say the current directory contains somthing like:
>
> Chapter 01.txt
> Chapter 02.txt
> Chapter 03.txt
> ...
> Chapter 50.txt
>
> and you want to open a specific chapter in the nano text editor. You
> can type nano, a space, tab to get Chapter\ the number of the chapter
> you want, then tab again for the .txt... and the tab completion
> automatically adds the backslashes for spaces and any other characters
> in the filename that need to be escaped.
>
> And the keystroke savings can really stack up...
>
> if you had a folder with files like:
>
> absurdly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
> bafflingly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
> confusingly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
> ludicrously absurdly ridiculous ludicrously long filename.extension
> ridiculous absurdly ludicrously long filename.extension
>
> for each, you'd just need to type the first letter and tab to get the
> rest, and all the backslashes would be added as needed.
>
> Or lets say you have a directory structure like:
>
> Documents
> -College
> --Biology
> ---Anatomy
> ---Metabolism
> --Chemistry
> ---Ionic
> ---Covalent
> ---organic
> --Math
> ---Calculus
> ---Statistics
> ---Linear Algebra
> -Personal
> --Letters
> --Fiction
> ---fantasy
> ---Sci-Fi
> --Essays
>
> As long as no two items in the same subdirectory start with the same
> letter, you could do something like type cd D tab C tab B tab A tab to
> produce
>
> cd Docuuments/College/Biology/Anatomy/
>
> ANd if there is any point in that path where there's only one item at
> a given level, you don't even need to type anything before tabbing
> again(though, tab completion always pauses at a slash, but if you had
> a very deep, unbranched directory tree, you could just hold tab to get
> all the way to the bottom.
>
> I'm long past the point where using tab completion is second nature,
> but I hope these examples of how it works are helpful in understanding
> how to use it.
>
> But in general, it's most useful when either:
>
> A. Every file/directory in a directory starts with a different letter.
> B. Everything in a directory has the same beginning and the first
> deviation is something like a number.
>
> but even when the contents of a directory are more random, much of the
> time, by the time you type the first word worth of unique characters,
> a tab will take you, if not to the end, then two the point of entering
> a number because there are files whose name differ only in a number or
> an extension because you have files with names that are identical
> excapt for the extension.
>
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