Two questions

Two questions

[Robin Williams]

Hi all, I'm about to do my first independent installation of Fedora core 5 and I have two questions. The first is a bit basic. 
  I've just had to format my laptop and lost all my data, and stupidly forgot that linux needs to run on an ext2 or ext3 partition, instead I created two fat32 partitions one of which has windows and the other on which I planned to install linux. Should I delete this partition and install Fedora on the free space or can I leave it there and have the Fedora installation convert it to ext3? If I should delete it which is the best way? I'm thinking about using parted in grml but am a bit nervous. 

  Secondly is it possible to install Fedora to an external hard drive? I know you can boot in to it from one when beginning the installation but am not sure if it will pick up the drive when I go to install. If it's possible has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with running Fedora core from an external drive? 

  Thanks for any help. 
Robin Williams

Re: Two questions

[Richard Villa]

The answer to the first question is that you can let the installation process set up the partitioning for you keeping in mind that Fedora 5 installation will need to be done via telnet if you can't see to read the screen.

I am not sure why you might wish to install on to an external disk unless you would want to take your system from location to location.  I believe however, that the boot information has to be on the drive that will be used to start the boot up process.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Williams" <robster3@hotmail.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:05 AM
Subject: Two questions


> Hi all, I'm about to do my first independent installation of Fedora core 5 and I have two questions. The first is a bit basic. 
>  I've just had to format my laptop and lost all my data, and stupidly forgot that linux needs to run on an ext2 or ext3 partition, instead I created two fat32 partitions one of which has windows and the other on which I planned to install linux. Should I delete this partition and install Fedora on the free space or can I leave it there and have the Fedora installation convert it to ext3? If I should delete it which is the best way? I'm thinking about using parted in grml but am a bit nervous. 
> 
>  Secondly is it possible to install Fedora to an external hard drive? I know you can boot in to it from one when beginning the installation but am not sure if it will pick up the drive when I go to install. If it's possible has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with running Fedora core from an external drive? 
> 
>  Thanks for any help. 
> Robin Williams       
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Re: Two questions

[Butch Bussen]

I apologize if this has been covered before.  How does one install via 
telnet?  Doesn't Linux have to be on the machine to do that?  I have a 
machine here I'm wanting to blow away and install a special Linux system 
on it used for ham radio i r l p stuff.  I've done this before, but always 
needed sighted help.  I'm putting on fedora 3, but have to use the special 
disk provided.  No speech of corse.  Any ideas, or am I missing something 
simple here. Write off list if you wish.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

Re: Two questions

[Tyler Littlefield]

hmm. could you then, use a boot simulator to just boot? or create a grub
boot disk?
I don't think grub will work on a windows system will it?
So, if something were to be written, the harddrive would have to be
detected.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Villa" <villar@earthlink.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: Two questions


> The answer to the first question is that you can let the installation
process set up the partitioning for you keeping in mind that Fedora 5
installation will need to be done via telnet if you can't see to read the
screen.
>
> I am not sure why you might wish to install on to an external disk unless
you would want to take your system from location to location.  I believe
however, that the boot information has to be on the drive that will be used
to start the boot up process.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robin Williams" <robster3@hotmail.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:05 AM
> Subject: Two questions
>
>
> > Hi all, I'm about to do my first independent installation of Fedora core
5 and I have two questions. The first is a bit basic.
> >  I've just had to format my laptop and lost all my data, and stupidly
forgot that linux needs to run on an ext2 or ext3 partition, instead I
created two fat32 partitions one of which has windows and the other on which
I planned to install linux. Should I delete this partition and install
Fedora on the free space or can I leave it there and have the Fedora
installation convert it to ext3? If I should delete it which is the best
way? I'm thinking about using parted in grml but am a bit nervous.
> >
> >  Secondly is it possible to install Fedora to an external hard drive? I
know you can boot in to it from one when beginning the installation but am
not sure if it will pick up the drive when I go to install. If it's possible
has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with running Fedora core from
an external drive?
> >
> >  Thanks for any help.
> > Robin Williams
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Re: Two questions

[Michael Whapples]

Tyler Littlefield writes:

> hmm. could you then, use a boot simulator to just boot? or create a grub
> boot disk?
> I don't think grub will work on a windows system will it?
> So, if something were to be written, the harddrive would have to be
> detected.
Not sure quite what you mean, grub can be used on dual boot machines, so it 
is compatible with windows as far as that goes. I think it might be only 
possible to configure it through linux, may be that is what you mean. I 
would probably would use one of the following things below:
Install lilo or grub onto a floppy disk, or if some other media is taking 
over for booting from (and is normally first in the BIOS list use that), and 
get that to boot linux off a external drive (if it works, not sure not done 
that before). This method offers greatest portability, plug in your external 
drive, stick in the floppy, off you go. Well that is the theory, as most 
computers check the floppy before hard disks. 
The other that I am sure would work, but probably will be less portable, use a standard USB storage device, 
and use the BIOS boot sequence (setting USB as first). Unfortunately this 
requires BIOS support, and is not available on some older computers.

Both option probably will need USB (if USB is used) built in to the kernel 
rather than modules.
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Michael Whapples
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> website:
> http://tysplace.shaned.net
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Villa" <villar@earthlink.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Two questions
> 
> 
>> The answer to the first question is that you can let the installation
> process set up the partitioning for you keeping in mind that Fedora 5
> installation will need to be done via telnet if you can't see to read the
> screen.
>>
>> I am not sure why you might wish to install on to an external disk unless
> you would want to take your system from location to location.  I believe
> however, that the boot information has to be on the drive that will be used
> to start the boot up process.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robin Williams" <robster3@hotmail.com>
>> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:05 AM
>> Subject: Two questions
>>
>>
>> > Hi all, I'm about to do my first independent installation of Fedora core
> 5 and I have two questions. The first is a bit basic.
>> >  I've just had to format my laptop and lost all my data, and stupidly
> forgot that linux needs to run on an ext2 or ext3 partition, instead I
> created two fat32 partitions one of which has windows and the other on which
> I planned to install linux. Should I delete this partition and install
> Fedora on the free space or can I leave it there and have the Fedora
> installation convert it to ext3? If I should delete it which is the best
> way? I'm thinking about using parted in grml but am a bit nervous.
>> >
>> >  Secondly is it possible to install Fedora to an external hard drive? I
> know you can boot in to it from one when beginning the installation but am
> not sure if it will pick up the drive when I go to install. If it's possible
> has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with running Fedora core from
> an external drive?
>> >
>> >  Thanks for any help.
>> > Robin Williams
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re: two questions

[Jude DaShiell]

For Debian if those commands are to be run for all accounts you can put 
them in /etc/rc.local and chmod a+x /etc/rc.local when finished.

Re: Two questions

[Robin Williams]

Thanks for this.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mikster4@msn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: Two questions


> >I don't know if there is anything specific to fedora, but these are my
>>answers relating to linux in general.
>>
>> If your external drive needs nothing fancy to run it, i.e. is just needs
>> the standard USB storage device drivers, and your computers BIOS can
>> support booting from USB devices, you can do it. I think I once found a
>> distro with USB disk images. Question though, does fedora allow that.
>>
>> The fat32 partition you intended for linux will have to be changed (well
>> you probably could run linux from fat32 if you made sure that the kernel
>> was up to it by having all necessary parts built in, but it does
>> complicate things). Depends what you mean by convert, I think anything
>> that will convert it will be doing non-destructive re-partitioning in the
>> background, which you could do yourself if you wanted to. This means that
>> your drive won't need to be completely blanked, so your windows partition
>> should be fine (recommendation is still to backup before).
>>
>> From
>> Michael Whapples
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robin Williams" <robster3@hotmail.com>
>> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:05 AM
>> Subject: Two questions
>>
>>
>> Hi all, I'm about to do my first independent installation of Fedora core 
>> 5
>> and I have two questions. The first is a bit basic.
>>  I've just had to format my laptop and lost all my data, and stupidly
>> forgot that linux needs to run on an ext2 or ext3 partition, instead I
>> created two fat32 partitions one of which has windows and the other on
>> which I planned to install linux. Should I delete this partition and
>> install Fedora on the free space or can I leave it there and have the
>> Fedora installation convert it to ext3? If I should delete it which is 
>> the
>> best way? I'm thinking about using parted in grml but am a bit nervous.
>>
>>  Secondly is it possible to install Fedora to an external hard drive? I
>> know you can boot in to it from one when beginning the installation but 
>> am
>> not sure if it will pick up the drive when I go to install. If it's
>> possible has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with running 
>> Fedora
>> core from an external drive?
>>
>>  Thanks for any help.
>> Robin Williams
>>
>
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Two questions

[Michael Whapples]

>I don't know if there is anything specific to fedora, but these are my 
>answers relating to linux in general.
>
> If your external drive needs nothing fancy to run it, i.e. is just needs 
> the standard USB storage device drivers, and your computers BIOS can 
> support booting from USB devices, you can do it. I think I once found a 
> distro with USB disk images. Question though, does fedora allow that.
>
> The fat32 partition you intended for linux will have to be changed (well 
> you probably could run linux from fat32 if you made sure that the kernel 
> was up to it by having all necessary parts built in, but it does 
> complicate things). Depends what you mean by convert, I think anything 
> that will convert it will be doing non-destructive re-partitioning in the 
> background, which you could do yourself if you wanted to. This means that 
> your drive won't need to be completely blanked, so your windows partition 
> should be fine (recommendation is still to backup before).
>
> From
> Michael Whapples
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robin Williams" <robster3@hotmail.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:05 AM
> Subject: Two questions
>
>
> Hi all, I'm about to do my first independent installation of Fedora core 5 
> and I have two questions. The first is a bit basic.
>  I've just had to format my laptop and lost all my data, and stupidly 
> forgot that linux needs to run on an ext2 or ext3 partition, instead I 
> created two fat32 partitions one of which has windows and the other on 
> which I planned to install linux. Should I delete this partition and 
> install Fedora on the free space or can I leave it there and have the 
> Fedora installation convert it to ext3? If I should delete it which is the 
> best way? I'm thinking about using parted in grml but am a bit nervous.
>
>  Secondly is it possible to install Fedora to an external hard drive? I 
> know you can boot in to it from one when beginning the installation but am 
> not sure if it will pick up the drive when I go to install. If it's 
> possible has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with running Fedora 
> core from an external drive?
>
>  Thanks for any help.
> Robin Williams
> 

two questions

[Scott Howell]

Folks,

I am curious if anyone has used the Westel Versalink dsl/router gateway 
modem that is provided with Verizon's ADSL service. I am switching from 
cable to Verizon's service as its less expensive and the speeds are 
equivalent. I hooked it up lastnight and realized it won't let you do to 
much as it is looking for a DSL signal I guess. Was wondering though if 
the thing is pretty user friendly to setup.

My second question is regarding the xawtv pkg. I continue to get an 
error that says it can't open the display, but not sure why thi is. I am 
a part of the video group and I get this error whether I'm root or a 
user. Just one of those things I wanted to play with, but not sure how 
much I'd use it.

tia
Scott