problems properly configuring alsa

problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Willem van der Walt]

Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
In some cases it is called Mic.
So, amixer get Mic
should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it 
off.
HTH, Willem


On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
> to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
> that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
> turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
> not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.

Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:

> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
> In some cases it is called Mic.
> So, amixer get Mic
> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
> off.
> HTH, Willem
> 
> 
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >
> > -- 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >         John Covici
> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Willem van der Walt]

You need to use amixer set Mic  off
or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
HTH, Willem


On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
>
> Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>
>> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
>> In some cases it is called Mic.
>> So, amixer get Mic
>> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
>> off.
>> HTH, Willem
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
>> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
>> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
>> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
>> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
>> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
>> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
>> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
>> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
>> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> > How do
>> > you spend it?
>> >
>> >         John Covici
>> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

No effect whatsoever.

Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:

> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
> HTH, Willem
> 
> 
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
> >
> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >
> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
> >> So, amixer get Mic
> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
> >> off.
> >> HTH, Willem
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> > How do
> >> > you spend it?
> >> >
> >> >         John Covici
> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Willem van der Walt]

If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
amixer get 'Input Source'?
Regards, Willem


On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> No effect whatsoever.
>
> Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>
>> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
>> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
>> HTH, Willem
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> 
>> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
>> >
>> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
>> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
>> >> So, amixer get Mic
>> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
>> >> off.
>> >> HTH, Willem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
>> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
>> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
>> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
>> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
>> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
>> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
>> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
>> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
>> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> >> >
>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> >> > How do
>> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >
>> >> >         John Covici
>> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

If you have a control called Capture, it generally has separate settings
for Playback volume and Capture volume.  You can set the playback volume
to 0 and the capture volume to whatever works best

 On Mon, 1 Jun 2015,
Willem van der Walt wrote:

> If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
> amixer get 'Input Source'?
> Regards, Willem
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>
> > No effect whatsoever.
> >
> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >
> >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
> >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
> >> HTH, Willem
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
> >> >
> >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
> >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
> >> >> So, amixer get Mic
> >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
> >> >> off.
> >> >> HTH, Willem
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be
> able
> >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening
> is
> >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if
> I
> >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level,
> but
> >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> >> > How do
> >> >> > you spend it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >         John Covici
> >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

hmmm, here is what I get with get Capture
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 15
  Front Left: Capture 2 [13%] [3.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 2 [13%] [3.00dB] [on]
There seems to be only one volume, and when I say
amixer set Capture playback off
it says invalid command.

Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckh@ftml.net> wrote:

> If you have a control called Capture, it generally has separate settings
> for Playback volume and Capture volume.  You can set the playback volume
> to 0 and the capture volume to whatever works best
> 
>  On Mon, 1 Jun 2015,
> Willem van der Walt wrote:
> 
> > If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
> > amixer get 'Input Source'?
> > Regards, Willem
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >
> > > No effect whatsoever.
> > >
> > > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> > >
> > >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
> > >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
> > >> HTH, Willem
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
> > >> >
> > >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
> > >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
> > >> >> So, amixer get Mic
> > >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
> > >> >> off.
> > >> >> HTH, Willem
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> > >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be
> > able
> > >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> > >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> > >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening
> > is
> > >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if
> > I
> > >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> > >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> > >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level,
> > but
> > >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > >> >> > How do
> > >> >> > you spend it?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >         John Covici
> > >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Jude DaShiell]

capture switch may need turning on first, I'm not sure since I never did 
anything with that kind of sound card.  Maybe Set capture switch then 
hit enter.  If we're lucky the error message you get back will be 
informative.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 07:00:06
> From: covici@ccs.covici.com
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: problems properly configuring alsa
> 
> hmmm, here is what I get with get Capture
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
>  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
>  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>  Limits: Capture 0 - 15
>  Front Left: Capture 2 [13%] [3.00dB] [on]
>  Front Right: Capture 2 [13%] [3.00dB] [on]
> There seems to be only one volume, and when I say
> amixer set Capture playback off
> it says invalid command.
>
> Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckh@ftml.net> wrote:
>
>> If you have a control called Capture, it generally has separate settings
>> for Playback volume and Capture volume.  You can set the playback volume
>> to 0 and the capture volume to whatever works best
>>
>>  On Mon, 1 Jun 2015,
>> Willem van der Walt wrote:
>> 
>> > If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
>> > amixer get 'Input Source'?
>> > Regards, Willem
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > No effect whatsoever.
>> > >
>> > > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
>> > >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
>> > >> HTH, Willem
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
>> > >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
>> > >> >> So, amixer get Mic
>> > >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
>> > >> >> off.
>> > >> >> HTH, Willem
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
>> > >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be
>> > able
>> > >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
>> > >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
>> > >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening
>> > is
>> > >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if
>> > I
>> > >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
>> > >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
>> > >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level,
>> > but
>> > >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > --
>> > >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> > >> >> > How do
>> > >> >> > you spend it?
>> > >> >> >
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

That appears not to be a valid control.

Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> wrote:

> capture switch may need turning on first, I'm not sure since I never
> did anything with that kind of sound card.  Maybe Set capture switch
> then hit enter.  If we're lucky the error message you get back will be
> informative.
> 
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 07:00:06
> > From: covici@ccs.covici.com
> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> > Subject: Re: problems properly configuring alsa
> >
> > hmmm, here is what I get with get Capture
> > Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
> >  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
> >  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >  Limits: Capture 0 - 15
> >  Front Left: Capture 2 [13%] [3.00dB] [on]
> >  Front Right: Capture 2 [13%] [3.00dB] [on]
> > There seems to be only one volume, and when I say
> > amixer set Capture playback off
> > it says invalid command.
> >
> > Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckh@ftml.net> wrote:
> >
> >> If you have a control called Capture, it generally has separate settings
> >> for Playback volume and Capture volume.  You can set the playback volume
> >> to 0 and the capture volume to whatever works best
> >>
> >>  On Mon, 1 Jun 2015,
> >> Willem van der Walt wrote:
> >>
> >> > If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
> >> > amixer get 'Input Source'?
> >> > Regards, Willem
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > No effect whatsoever.
> >> > >
> >> > > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
> >> > >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
> >> > >> HTH, Willem
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
> >> > >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
> >> > >> >> So, amixer get Mic
> >> > >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
> >> > >> >> off.
> >> > >> >> HTH, Willem
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> >> > >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be
> >> > able
> >> > >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> >> > >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> >> > >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening
> >> > is
> >> > >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if
> >> > I
> >> > >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> >> > >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> >> > >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level,
> >> > but
> >> > >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > --
> >> > >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> > >> >> > How do
> >> > >> >> > you spend it?
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >         John Covici
> >> > >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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> >> > >> > How do
> >> > >> > you spend it?
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

No such control here.

Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:

> If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
> amixer get 'Input Source'?
> Regards, Willem
> 
> 
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > No effect whatsoever.
> >
> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >
> >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
> >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
> >> HTH, Willem
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
> >> >
> >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
> >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
> >> >> So, amixer get Mic
> >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
> >> >> off.
> >> >> HTH, Willem
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
> >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
> >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
> >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
> >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> >> > How do
> >> >> > you spend it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >         John Covici
> >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Willem van der Walt]

Could you attach the output of
amixer controls|cut -f4 -d'='
I once had an emu10k and seem to recall the same problem vagely.
Regards, Willem

On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> No such control here.
>
> Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>
>> If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
>> amixer get 'Input Source'?
>> Regards, Willem
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> 
>> > No effect whatsoever.
>> >
>> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> >
>> >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
>> >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
>> >> HTH, Willem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
>> >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
>> >> >> So, amixer get Mic
>> >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
>> >> >> off.
>> >> >> HTH, Willem
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
>> >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
>> >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
>> >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
>> >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
>> >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
>> >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
>> >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
>> >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
>> >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> >> >> > How do
>> >> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >         John Covici
>> >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> >> > How do
>> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >
>> >> >         John Covici
>> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> > How do
>> > you spend it?
>> >
>> >         John Covici
>> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
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> How do
> you spend it?
>
>         John Covici
>         covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

'Master Playback Switch'
'Master Playback Volume'
'Headphone +3dB Boost'
'Headphone Amp'
'Headphone Center Playback Switch',index
'Headphone LFE Playback Switch',index
'Headphone Playback Volume',index
'Tone Control - Bass'
'Tone Control - Switch'
'Tone Control - Treble'
'3D Control - Switch'
'3D Control Sigmatel - Depth'
'PCM Playback Switch'
'PCM Playback Volume'
'Front Jack'
'Front Playback Volume'
'Front Capture Switch'
'Front Capture Volume'
'Surround Mix Playback Switch'
'Surround Mix Playback Volume'
'Surround Phase Inversion Playback Switch'
'Surround Playback Volume'
'Surround Capture Switch'
'Surround Capture Volume'
'Center/LFE Jack'
'Center Playback Volume'
'LFE Playback Volume'
'Synth Playback Volume'
'Synth Capture Switch'
'Synth Capture Volume'
'Wave Center Playback Volume'
'Wave LFE Playback Volume'
'Wave Surround Playback Volume'
'Wave Playback Volume'
'Wave Capture Switch'
'Wave Capture Volume'
'Line Input Source'
'Line LiveDrive Capture Switch'
'Line LiveDrive Capture Volume'
'Line LiveDrive Playback Volume'
'LineIn Jack'
'Line Playback Switch'
'Line Playback Volume'
'CD Playback Switch'
'CD Playback Volume'
'Mic Boost (+20dB)'
'Mic Input Source'
'Mic Select'
'Mic1 Jack'
'Mic Playback Switch'
'Mic Playback Volume'
'Phone Playback Switch'
'Phone Playback Volume'
'Zoom Video Playback Volume'
'Zoom Video Capture Switch'
'Zoom Video Capture Volume'
'Aux Playback Switch'
'Aux Playback Volume'
'Capture Source'
'Capture Switch'
'Capture Volume'
'IEC958 LiveDrive Capture Switch'
'IEC958 LiveDrive Capture Volume'
'IEC958 LiveDrive Playback Volume'
'IEC958 Optical Raw Playback Switch'
'IEC958 TTL Capture Switch'
'IEC958 TTL Capture Volume'
'IEC958 TTL Playback Volume'
'AC97 Capture Volume'
'AC97 Playback Volume'
'Beep Playback Switch'
'Beep Playback Volume'
'Exchange Center/LFE'
'External Amplifier'
'Rear Jack'
'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack'
'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo Playback Switch'
'EMU10K1 PCM Send Routing'
'EMU10K1 PCM Send Routing',index
'EMU10K1 PCM Send Routing',index
'EMU10K1 PCM Send Volume'
'EMU10K1 PCM Send Volume',index
'EMU10K1 PCM Send Volume',index
'EMU10K1 PCM Volume'
'EMU10K1 PCM Volume',index
'EMU10K1 PCM Volume',index
'Captured FX8010 Outputs',device
'IEC958 Playback Default',device
'IEC958 Playback Default',index
'IEC958 Playback Default',index
'IEC958 Playback Mask',device
'IEC958 Playback Mask',index
'IEC958 Playback Mask',index

Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:

> Could you attach the output of
> amixer controls|cut -f4 -d'='
> I once had an emu10k and seem to recall the same problem vagely.
> Regards, Willem
> 
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > No such control here.
> >
> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >
> >> If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
> >> amixer get 'Input Source'?
> >> Regards, Willem
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > No effect whatsoever.
> >> >
> >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
> >> >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
> >> >> HTH, Willem
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
> >> >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
> >> >> >> So, amixer get Mic
> >> >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
> >> >> >> off.
> >> >> >> HTH, Willem
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> >> >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
> >> >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> >> >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> >> >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
> >> >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
> >> >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> >> >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> >> >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
> >> >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> >> >> > How do
> >> >> >> > you spend it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >         John Covici
> >> >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> > Speakup mailing list
> >> >> >> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> >> >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> >> > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and
> >> >> >> > conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document
> >> >> >> > Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at
> >> >> >> > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
> >> >> >> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> >> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> >> >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> >> > How do
> >> >> > you spend it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >         John Covici
> >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > Speakup mailing list
> >> >> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and
> >> >> > conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document
> >> >> > Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at
> >> >> > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
> >> >> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> > How do
> >> > you spend it?
> >> >
> >> >         John Covici
> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Speakup mailing list
> >> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and
> >> > conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document
> >> > Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at
> >> > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html.
> >> >
> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
> >> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> >> >
> >> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > -- 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >         John Covici
> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > -- 
> > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and
> > conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document
> > Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at
> > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html.
> >
> > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
> >
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-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Willem van der Walt]

Look at things like 'Mic Input Source' and try to find what it is, E.G. 
Mic.
I also think I saw 'Capture Source'
One needs to play around once the control that does the recording is 
found.
I mean, Capture can set recording volume, but 'Front Mic' could be set to 
playback which causes a problem in a case where 'Front Mic' is the Input 
Source.
Hope this make some sense.
Regards, Willem


On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> 'Master Playback Switch'
> 'Master Playback Volume'
> 'Headphone +3dB Boost'
> 'Headphone Amp'
> 'Headphone Center Playback Switch',index
> 'Headphone LFE Playback Switch',index
> 'Headphone Playback Volume',index
> 'Tone Control - Bass'
> 'Tone Control - Switch'
> 'Tone Control - Treble'
> '3D Control - Switch'
> '3D Control Sigmatel - Depth'
> 'PCM Playback Switch'
> 'PCM Playback Volume'
> 'Front Jack'
> 'Front Playback Volume'
> 'Front Capture Switch'
> 'Front Capture Volume'
> 'Surround Mix Playback Switch'
> 'Surround Mix Playback Volume'
> 'Surround Phase Inversion Playback Switch'
> 'Surround Playback Volume'
> 'Surround Capture Switch'
> 'Surround Capture Volume'
> 'Center/LFE Jack'
> 'Center Playback Volume'
> 'LFE Playback Volume'
> 'Synth Playback Volume'
> 'Synth Capture Switch'
> 'Synth Capture Volume'
> 'Wave Center Playback Volume'
> 'Wave LFE Playback Volume'
> 'Wave Surround Playback Volume'
> 'Wave Playback Volume'
> 'Wave Capture Switch'
> 'Wave Capture Volume'
> 'Line Input Source'
> 'Line LiveDrive Capture Switch'
> 'Line LiveDrive Capture Volume'
> 'Line LiveDrive Playback Volume'
> 'LineIn Jack'
> 'Line Playback Switch'
> 'Line Playback Volume'
> 'CD Playback Switch'
> 'CD Playback Volume'
> 'Mic Boost (+20dB)'
> 'Mic Input Source'
> 'Mic Select'
> 'Mic1 Jack'
> 'Mic Playback Switch'
> 'Mic Playback Volume'
> 'Phone Playback Switch'
> 'Phone Playback Volume'
> 'Zoom Video Playback Volume'
> 'Zoom Video Capture Switch'
> 'Zoom Video Capture Volume'
> 'Aux Playback Switch'
> 'Aux Playback Volume'
> 'Capture Source'
> 'Capture Switch'
> 'Capture Volume'
> 'IEC958 LiveDrive Capture Switch'
> 'IEC958 LiveDrive Capture Volume'
> 'IEC958 LiveDrive Playback Volume'
> 'IEC958 Optical Raw Playback Switch'
> 'IEC958 TTL Capture Switch'
> 'IEC958 TTL Capture Volume'
> 'IEC958 TTL Playback Volume'
> 'AC97 Capture Volume'
> 'AC97 Playback Volume'
> 'Beep Playback Switch'
> 'Beep Playback Volume'
> 'Exchange Center/LFE'
> 'External Amplifier'
> 'Rear Jack'
> 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack'
> 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo Playback Switch'
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Send Routing'
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Send Routing',index
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Send Routing',index
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Send Volume'
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Send Volume',index
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Send Volume',index
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Volume'
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Volume',index
> 'EMU10K1 PCM Volume',index
> 'Captured FX8010 Outputs',device
> 'IEC958 Playback Default',device
> 'IEC958 Playback Default',index
> 'IEC958 Playback Default',index
> 'IEC958 Playback Mask',device
> 'IEC958 Playback Mask',index
> 'IEC958 Playback Mask',index
>
> Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>
>> Could you attach the output of
>> amixer controls|cut -f4 -d'='
>> I once had an emu10k and seem to recall the same problem vagely.
>> Regards, Willem
>> 
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> 
>> > No such control here.
>> >
>> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you have a control called 'Input Source' what is the output of
>> >> amixer get 'Input Source'?
>> >> Regards, Willem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > No effect whatsoever.
>> >> >
>> >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> You need to use amixer set Mic  off
>> >> >> or simmelar to actually set it, but I suppose you know that.
>> >> >> HTH, Willem
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > No joy, it did the command, but did not effect the situation.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Willem van der Walt <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Make sure the 'Input Source' is not set to playback.
>> >> >> >> In some cases it is called Mic.
>> >> >> >> So, amixer get Mic
>> >> >> >> should show you if it has playback on.  If it is on, try and switch it
>> >> >> >> off.
>> >> >> >> HTH, Willem
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
>> >> >> >> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
>> >> >> >> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
>> >> >> >> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
>> >> >> >> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
>> >> >> >> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
>> >> >> >> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
>> >> >> >> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
>> >> >> >> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
>> >> >> >> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> >> >> >> > How do
>> >> >> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >         John Covici
>> >> >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> > Speakup mailing list
>> >> >> >> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> >> >> >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> >> > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and
>> >> >> >> > conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document
>> >> >> >> > Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at
>> >> >> >> > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
>> >> >> >> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> Speakup mailing list
>> >> >> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> >> >> >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> >> >> > How do
>> >> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >         John Covici
>> >> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > Speakup mailing list
>> >> >> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> >> >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -- 
>> >> >> > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and
>> >> >> > conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document
>> >> >> > Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at
>> >> >> > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
>> >> >> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> Speakup mailing list
>> >> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> >> >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >> >
>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> >> > How do
>> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >
>> >> >         John Covici
>> >> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Speakup mailing list
>> >> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
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>> >> > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and
>> >> > conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document
>> >> > Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at
>> >> > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html.
>> >> >
>> >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by
>> >> > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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>> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> > How do
>> > you spend it?
>> >
>> >         John Covici
>> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[Shawn Kirkpatrick]

Hello. Depending on which emu-based card you have the controls you need to 
set can be a little different.
If the card is an sb live (emu10k1) then these steps should work:
Set the capture source to Mic:
amixer cset name='Capture Source' Mic
Turn up the AC97 capture volume:
amixer set AC97 capture 100
This should enable you to record sound from the Mic without hearing it from 
the speakers. If the sound is too low then you will have to turn on the mic 
boost:
amixer set 'Mic Boost (+20db)' on
If you want to hear the sound being captured then turn up the AC97 playback 
volume:
amixer set AC97 playback 100
If your source is set to Mic then you'll most likely get feedback as the mic 
hears itself. Turning up this volume can be useful to hear other sources 
like line or cd as they're being captured.
To get any playback out of the card you'll have to turn up the Master and 
PCM controls.
If the card is an Audigy (emu10k2) then the setup is a bit different, you 
usually just have to enable capture on the source you want.
When using amixer to get and set controls you have to watch the case and 
spacing in the control names. You can also use alsamixer if you want to 
adjust these controls in real time to see what effect they're having.
When you get things working as you'd like you might want to run alsactl 
store to save your settings so they're restored at system boot.
Hope this helps.


On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
> to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
> that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
> turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
> not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
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Re: problems properly configuring alsa

[covici]

Hey, I think that did it -- I can increase the capture volume, and the
AC97 playback volume is 0, but the AC97 capture is 100%.

Thanks very much -- this about drove me ...

Shawn Kirkpatrick <shawn@shawnk.ca> wrote:

> Hello. Depending on which emu-based card you have the controls you
> need to set can be a little different.
> If the card is an sb live (emu10k1) then these steps should work:
> Set the capture source to Mic:
> amixer cset name='Capture Source' Mic
> Turn up the AC97 capture volume:
> amixer set AC97 capture 100
> This should enable you to record sound from the Mic without hearing it
> from the speakers. If the sound is too low then you will have to turn
> on the mic boost:
> amixer set 'Mic Boost (+20db)' on
> If you want to hear the sound being captured then turn up the AC97
> playback volume:
> amixer set AC97 playback 100
> If your source is set to Mic then you'll most likely get feedback as
> the mic hears itself. Turning up this volume can be useful to hear
> other sources like line or cd as they're being captured.
> To get any playback out of the card you'll have to turn up the Master
> and PCM controls.
> If the card is an Audigy (emu10k2) then the setup is a bit different,
> you usually just have to enable capture on the source you want.
> When using amixer to get and set controls you have to watch the case
> and spacing in the control names. You can also use alsamixer if you
> want to adjust these controls in real time to see what effect they're
> having.
> When you get things working as you'd like you might want to run
> alsactl store to save your settings so they're restored at system
> boot.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi.  Since upgrading to kernel 3.13, I am having some strange also
> > config problems.  What I would like to do is have the Microphone be able
> > to record a file, or otherwise be used by an application, and at the
> > same time have the rear jack which seemsto be controlled by Master, to
> > hear a file being played or other application.  Now what is happening is
> > that if I turn up the capture volume sufficiently, I get feedback, if I
> > turn Master playback off, no feedback, but Master hears nothing.  The
> > volume on the Mic does nothing at all itself.  I have an old emu10k1
> > sound card.  So, how do I get the Mic to work at some decent level, but
> > not going through the line out jack which eventually goes to speakers?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >
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