slackware 9.0

slackware 9.0

[Gregory Nowak]

Hi all.

I noticed that iso images of slackware 9.0 don't seem to be on the web anywhere.

Is slackware only selling cd-roms now, and not providing the iso images for free download anymore?
Thanks.

Greg

Re: slackware 9.0

[Lorenzo Prince]

I downloaded it from sourceforge.net.  The fast mirror I usually get
Slackware from, (ftp.slackware.at), was down when the iso was released.  I
haven't checked to see if it is back up.  Just a warning: due to the
release of the 9.0 iso images, most if not all of the mirror sites may be
much slower than usual.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I noticed that iso images of slackware 9.0 don't seem to be on the web anywhere.
>
> Is slackware only selling cd-roms now, and not providing the iso images for free download anymore?
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
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Re: slackware 9.0

[Juan Hernandez]

get it at: http://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu  if that doesn't work, email
me again and I'l look it up again.

    Juan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: slackware 9.0


> Hi all.
>
> I noticed that iso images of slackware 9.0 don't seem to be on the web
anywhere.
>
> Is slackware only selling cd-roms now, and not providing the iso images
for free download anymore?
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: slackware 9.0

[Jacob Schmude]

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Hi
Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the 
servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them. Hope 
you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I 
am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all these 
broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be the 
one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good 
luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your own 
iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware 9.0 
mirror sites).

Regards
Jacob


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>Hi all.
>
>I noticed that iso images of slackware 9.0 don't seem to be on the web 
>anywhere.

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Re: slackware 9.0

[Joseph C. Lininger]

If you go to one of the ftp sights, you can still download the files
needed to install slackware 9.0. However, it seems an ISO image is not
currently available. If you want one, I have created a CD with the
installation files. I will send you the image or we can arange for you to
pick
it up from my FTP server if you like. Let me know.

-- 
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I noticed that iso images of slackware 9.0 don't seem to be on the web anywhere.
>
> Is slackware only selling cd-roms now, and not providing the iso images for free download anymore?
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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>

Re: slackware 9.0

[Gregory Nowak]

Thanks to everyone for their reply.

Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup on that recommendation.

I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.

Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
Regards,
Greg


On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi
> Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the 
> servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them. Hope 
> you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I 
> am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all these 
> broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be the 
> one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good 
> luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your own 
> iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware 9.0 
> mirror sites).
> 
> Regards
> Jacob
> 
> 

Re: slackware 9.0

[Lorenzo Prince]

well, if no matter where you go you still can't find it or get it to
download, I am hosting it on my ftp site, thanks to the nice folks at
Slackware and proftpd.  I can give you the URL, but I would rather do that
as a last resort, simply cause my site is so much slower than most of the
mirrors out there, and it will take a considerable amount of time to
download, (approximately 4 to 5 hours, if I am calculating correctly.)
However, it is guaranteed to work.  Just let me know if you need the URL
to my site.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Juan Hernandez wrote:

> get it at: http://inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu  if that doesn't work, email
> me again and I'l look it up again.
>
>     Juan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:27 PM
> Subject: slackware 9.0
>
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I noticed that iso images of slackware 9.0 don't seem to be on the web
> anywhere.
> >
> > Is slackware only selling cd-roms now, and not providing the iso images
> for free download anymore?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
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t1 versus cabel/modem

[monte single]

How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable modem connection I think I
depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it was more like 360 kbs/s.

Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for their reply.
>
> Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup on that recommendation.
>
> I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
>
> Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> Regards,
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > Hi
> > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the
> > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them. Hope
> > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I
> > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all these
> > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be the
> > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good
> > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your own
> > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware 9.0
> > mirror sites).
> >
> > Regards
> > Jacob
> >
> >
>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, Call up your cable company, and ask what their network throughput is.
This is a number between 256 Kbits per sec, and 2 m bits per second.  It
sounds like yours is somewhere between 1.3 and 2 megabits per second.  Then,
Hunt down a t1 provider.  I suspect the network throughput on a t1 would be
between 1 and 3 megabits persec, but will cost significantly more than
cable.
You guys can correct me if I go wrong here.  The best we have here so far is
adsl with a 3.5 meg network throughput.  Maybe Pricy, though, fwew.
Erik
You need more space!  Compare hard drives starting at $236 cdn for 120, $304
for 160, and $420 for 200 GB at 7200 RPM.
http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware/ID/HardDrive/Affiliate/ERIK
BURGGRA
Convert to $US at http://www.xe.com/ucc
----- Original Message -----
From: monte single <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:51 PM
Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem


> How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
modem connection I think I
> depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
was more like 360 kbs/s.
>
> Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> >
> > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
backup on that recommendation.
> >
> > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> >
> > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > Regards,
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
the
> > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
Hope
> > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like
I
> > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
these
> > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
the
> > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
good
> > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
own
> > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
9.0
> > > mirror sites).
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jacob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Luke Davis]

Certainly will cost more.  The problem with cable can be, that you have to
compete with everyone else on your network segment for bandwidth.  There
is no such problem with T1s.

Talk to me if you need a quote on the cost, etc., of a T1--I can price one
for your area, and can usually get good rates.

Some of what you might be seeing, however, may be the lags of the remote
sites.

Luke


On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi, Call up your cable company, and ask what their network throughput is.
> This is a number between 256 Kbits per sec, and 2 m bits per second.  It
> sounds like yours is somewhere between 1.3 and 2 megabits per second.  Then,
> Hunt down a t1 provider.  I suspect the network throughput on a t1 would be
> between 1 and 3 megabits persec, but will cost significantly more than
> cable.
> You guys can correct me if I go wrong here.  The best we have here so far is
> adsl with a 3.5 meg network throughput.  Maybe Pricy, though, fwew.
> Erik
> You need more space!  Compare hard drives starting at $236 cdn for 120, $304
> for 160, and $420 for 200 GB at 7200 RPM.
> http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware/ID/HardDrive/Affiliate/ERIK
> BURGGRA
> Convert to $US at http://www.xe.com/ucc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: monte single <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:51 PM
> Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
>
>
> > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
> modem connection I think I
> > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
> was more like 360 kbs/s.
> >
> > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > >
> > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
> backup on that recommendation.
> > >
> > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > >
> > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
> the
> > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
> Hope
> > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like
> I
> > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
> these
> > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
> the
> > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
> good
> > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
> own
> > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
> 9.0
> > > > mirror sites).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jacob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> >
> >
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> >
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Joseph C. Lininger]

T1 line is signifficantly more expensive. They're designed for business. A
T1 has a throughput of 1.5 MBPS. This is a garenteed rate, and it is
always available. With cable, you share your bandwidth with everyone on
the same line as you.

-- 
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi, Call up your cable company, and ask what their network throughput is.
> This is a number between 256 Kbits per sec, and 2 m bits per second.  It
> sounds like yours is somewhere between 1.3 and 2 megabits per second.  Then,
> Hunt down a t1 provider.  I suspect the network throughput on a t1 would be
> between 1 and 3 megabits persec, but will cost significantly more than
> cable.
> You guys can correct me if I go wrong here.  The best we have here so far is
> adsl with a 3.5 meg network throughput.  Maybe Pricy, though, fwew.
> Erik
> You need more space!  Compare hard drives starting at $236 cdn for 120, $304
> for 160, and $420 for 200 GB at 7200 RPM.
> http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware/ID/HardDrive/Affiliate/ERIK
> BURGGRA
> Convert to $US at http://www.xe.com/ucc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: monte single <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:51 PM
> Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
>
>
> > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
> modem connection I think I
> > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
> was more like 360 kbs/s.
> >
> > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > >
> > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
> backup on that recommendation.
> > >
> > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > >
> > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
> the
> > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
> Hope
> > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like
> I
> > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
> these
> > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
> the
> > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
> good
> > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
> own
> > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
> 9.0
> > > > mirror sites).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jacob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[erik burggraaf]

Well, I never notice to much signal loss on my 2 meg cable, but for the same
price I could switch to 1.3 and 1.5 mb adsl's.  Think I should do it?  Just
to keep this on topic, How would that effect my linux box?  Cable is
auto-detected under both windows and linux.  Adsl, though, tipicly comes
with proprietary software that establishes connections, and they don't seem
to like linux too much.  I know it's possible, just need a pointer in the
right direction.
Cheers,
Erik
BTW, those hd prices are lower as of a day or two ago.  Gues ss it's time to
mod my sig, lol.


You need more space!  Compare hard drives starting at $236 cdn for 120, $304
for 160, and $420 for 200 GB at 7200 RPM.
http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware/ID/HardDrive/Affiliate/ERIK
BURGGRA
Convert to $US at http://www.xe.com/ucc
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph C. Lininger <jbahm@pcdesk.net>
To: Speakup List <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> T1 line is signifficantly more expensive. They're designed for business. A
> T1 has a throughput of 1.5 MBPS. This is a garenteed rate, and it is
> always available. With cable, you share your bandwidth with everyone on
> the same line as you.
>
> --
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
>
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
> > Hi, Call up your cable company, and ask what their network throughput
is.
> > This is a number between 256 Kbits per sec, and 2 m bits per second.  It
> > sounds like yours is somewhere between 1.3 and 2 megabits per second.
Then,
> > Hunt down a t1 provider.  I suspect the network throughput on a t1 would
be
> > between 1 and 3 megabits persec, but will cost significantly more than
> > cable.
> > You guys can correct me if I go wrong here.  The best we have here so
far is
> > adsl with a 3.5 meg network throughput.  Maybe Pricy, though, fwew.
> > Erik
> > You need more space!  Compare hard drives starting at $236 cdn for 120,
$304
> > for 160, and $420 for 200 GB at 7200 RPM.
> >
http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware/ID/HardDrive/Affiliate/ERIK
> > BURGGRA
> > Convert to $US at http://www.xe.com/ucc
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: monte single <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:51 PM
> > Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
> >
> >
> > > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
> > modem connection I think I
> > > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> > twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was
it, it
> > was more like 360 kbs/s.
> > >
> > > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
> > backup on that recommendation.
> > > >
> > > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > > >
> > > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors,
but
> > the
> > > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting
them.
> > Hope
> > > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K
(like
> > I
> > > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when
all
> > these
> > > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems
to be
> > the
> > > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
> > good
> > > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make
your
> > own
> > > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on
slackware
> > 9.0
> > > > > mirror sites).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Jacob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: slackware 9.0

[Alex Snow]

I got them fine.  downloading them a few days ago.  I guess before the
news spread.

--
A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!"
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Jacob Schmude wrote:

> Hi
> Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the
> servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them. Hope
> you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I
> am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all these
> broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be the
> one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good
> luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your own
> iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware 9.0
> mirror sites).
>
> Regards
> Jacob
>
>
> At 20:27 3/27/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >Hi all.
> >
> >I noticed that iso images of slackware 9.0 don't seem to be on the web
> >anywhere.
>

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Alex Snow]

No matter what you use it's going to depend on the speed of the person
you're downloading.  so if they have a slower connection then you you'll
download at their speed no matter how fast your connection is.

--
A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!"
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, monte single wrote:

> How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable modem connection I think I
> depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it was more like 360 kbs/s.
>
> Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> >
> > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup on that recommendation.
> >
> > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> >
> > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > Regards,
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the
> > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them. Hope
> > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I
> > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all these
> > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be the
> > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good
> > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your own
> > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware 9.0
> > > mirror sites).
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jacob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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>

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Luke Davis]

I just sent a message, stating that most ADSL providers use PPPOE, which
Linux does support.  Unfortunately, it was sent to the list moderators for
approval, because it was too long, apparently (more than 5K, with
quoting).


On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> No matter what you use it's going to depend on the speed of the person
> you're downloading.  so if they have a slower connection then you you'll
> download at their speed no matter how fast your connection is.
>
> --

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Alex,

This is absolutely correct, and is what many users forget when they
experience "slow" downloads from certain sites on the net.  When a client
tells me they're experiencing slow performance on the Internet, I ask them
for more information.  Does it affect all sites or is it noticed on specific
sites?  If specific sites, which ones?  If it is noticed across the board,
are there any patterns?  A specific time period?  These questions can be
important to help isolate the problem.

Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
A+, CCNA, Network+!
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> No matter what you use it's going to depend on the speed of the person
> you're downloading.  so if they have a slower connection then you you'll
> download at their speed no matter how fast your connection is.
>
> --
> A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up
yours!"
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, monte single wrote:
>
> > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
modem connection I think I
> > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it,
it was more like 360 kbs/s.
> >
> > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > >
> > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
backup on that recommendation.
> > >
> > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > >
> > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
the
> > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting
them. Hope
> > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K
(like I
> > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when
all these
> > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to
be the
> > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
good
> > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make
your own
> > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on
slackware 9.0
> > > > mirror sites).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jacob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Erik,

Yes!  T1 is 1.544 Mbps, and is more expensive than cable Internet by more
than a factor of ten!

Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
A+, CCNA, Network+!
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom!
----- Original Message -----
From: "erik burggraaf" <erik@erik-burggraaf.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> Hi, Call up your cable company, and ask what their network throughput is.
> This is a number between 256 Kbits per sec, and 2 m bits per second.  It
> sounds like yours is somewhere between 1.3 and 2 megabits per second.
Then,
> Hunt down a t1 provider.  I suspect the network throughput on a t1 would
be
> between 1 and 3 megabits persec, but will cost significantly more than
> cable.
> You guys can correct me if I go wrong here.  The best we have here so far
is
> adsl with a 3.5 meg network throughput.  Maybe Pricy, though, fwew.
> Erik
> You need more space!  Compare hard drives starting at $236 cdn for 120,
$304
> for 160, and $420 for 200 GB at 7200 RPM.
>
http://www.mlhsystems.com/momex/NavCode/Hardware/ID/HardDrive/Affiliate/ERIK
> BURGGRA
> Convert to $US at http://www.xe.com/ucc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: monte single <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:51 PM
> Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
>
>
> > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
> modem connection I think I
> > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it,
it
> was more like 360 kbs/s.
> >
> > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > >
> > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
> backup on that recommendation.
> > >
> > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > >
> > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
> the
> > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting
them.
> Hope
> > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K
(like
> I
> > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when
all
> these
> > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to
be
> the
> > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
> good
> > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make
your
> own
> > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on
slackware
> 9.0
> > > > mirror sites).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jacob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Bear in SFO]

If my memory serves me, cable actually runs at T3 speed but you will have 
to share with your neighbors...  So for a while if all the people in your 
apartment building use their cable at the same time you get zip, but if 
nobody use it you get the whole T3...  the cable people get smart and put a 
filter on it so you can never get any faster than maybe 2Mbit/s...

ADSL on the other hand is 1.5Mbit/s and you don't share the line with 
anyone else but you depends on your ISP - if their servers goes down you're 
SOOL until they can fix it...

T1 is guaranteed because it puts you right onto the internet, and you are 
on your own once you are on it...

Does this help?

--David

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Scott Howell]

Speakeasy does not use PPPOE so if your looking for a good DSL provider,
they would likely have what you want. http://www.speakeasy.net



----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: 28 March, 2003 20:20
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> I just sent a message, stating that most ADSL providers use PPPOE, which
> Linux does support.  Unfortunately, it was sent to the list moderators for
> approval, because it was too long, apparently (more than 5K, with
> quoting).
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > No matter what you use it's going to depend on the speed of the person
> > you're downloading.  so if they have a slower connection then you you'll
> > download at their speed no matter how fast your connection is.
> >
> > --
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[monte single]

Thanks for the details, i'll stick with the cable.

Bear in SFO wrote:

> If my memory serves me, cable actually runs at T3 speed but you will have
> to share with your neighbors...  So for a while if all the people in your
> apartment building use their cable at the same time you get zip, but if
> nobody use it you get the whole T3...  the cable people get smart and put a
> filter on it so you can never get any faster than maybe 2Mbit/s...
>
> ADSL on the other hand is 1.5Mbit/s and you don't share the line with
> anyone else but you depends on your ISP - if their servers goes down you're
> SOOL until they can fix it...
>
> T1 is guaranteed because it puts you right onto the internet, and you are
> on your own once you are on it...
>
> Does this help?
>
> --David
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Erik Heil]

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Hi,
Sorry, but I haven't been keeping up on this thread, so my information may
be a little redundant.  T1, and cable are two totally different
technoligies.  T1 is dedicated bandwidth and is symetrical, where as ADSl
and cable asymetrical.  For example, right now I'm on a 1.5mbps/256K ADSL
line.  I have no problem accessing 700Kb RealMedia streams, even can select
the T1 option on various kinds of streaming media from my Winblows box.  In
all though, it depends on what speed the site or service you're trying to
connect can have, and whether they use QoS (quality of service) data to
limit bandwidth to certain daemons. i.e. httpd, ProFTPD, etc. Hope this
helps.
- --Erik
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> Thanks for the details, i'll stick with the cable.
>
> Bear in SFO wrote:
>
> > If my memory serves me, cable actually runs at T3 speed but you will
have
> > to share with your neighbors...  So for a while if all the people in
your
> > apartment building use their cable at the same time you get zip, but if
> > nobody use it you get the whole T3...  the cable people get smart and
put a
> > filter on it so you can never get any faster than maybe 2Mbit/s...
> >
> > ADSL on the other hand is 1.5Mbit/s and you don't share the line with
> > anyone else but you depends on your ISP - if their servers goes down
you're
> > SOOL until they can fix it...
> >
> > T1 is guaranteed because it puts you right onto the internet, and you
are
> > on your own once you are on it...
> >
> > Does this help?
> >
> > --David
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: slackware 9.0

[Steve Holmes]

I find the ISO question very interesting.  I looked on both
ftp.slackware.com and carroll.cac.psu.edu and found all the 9.0
directories but no ISO's on either site - even the slackware one.  I
downloaded all the directories and constructed a four CD set of
slackware 9.0.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:41:29AM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> 
> Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup on that recommendation.
> 
> I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> 
> Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> Regards,
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > Hi
> > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the 
> > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them. Hope 
> > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I 
> > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all these 
> > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be the 
> > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good 
> > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your own 
> > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware 9.0 
> > mirror sites).
> > 
> > Regards
> > Jacob
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Glenn Ervinat home]

I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5 bucks a
month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.

----- Original Message -----
From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem


How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable modem
connection I think I
depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
was more like 360 kbs/s.

Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for their reply.
>
> Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup
on that recommendation.
>
> I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
>
> Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> Regards,
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > Hi
> > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the
> > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
Hope
> > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I
> > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
these
> > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
the
> > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good
> > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
own
> > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
9.0
> > mirror sites).
> >
> > Regards
> > Jacob
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Lorenzo Prince]

Here's an interesting thing that happened to me.  I am supposed to,
according to the cable company, have a 1.5 Mbit connection.  Back when I
was using Winblos, I couldn't get anywhere near that.  I usually could
only download at about 13KB/s.  Then I discovered Linux!  Wow!  Suddenly
I am downloading at over 230KB/s nearly all the time.  Is Linux just that
good for connecting to the internet or is there another explanation for
this?  Whatever it is, I am enjoying it.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:

> I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5 bucks a
> month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
> Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
>
>
> How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable modem
> connection I think I
> depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
> was more like 360 kbs/s.
>
> Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> >
> > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup
> on that recommendation.
> >
> > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> >
> > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > Regards,
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the
> > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
> Hope
> > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I
> > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
> these
> > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
> the
> > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good
> > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
> own
> > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
> 9.0
> > > mirror sites).
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jacob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Lorenzo,

Simply switching to Linux does not explain such a speed difference.  While
Linux does perform more efficiently than does Windows, the difference should
certainly not be nearly as great.  It is more likely that the Windows
machine was somehow misconfigured.

Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
A+, CCNA, Network+!
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> Here's an interesting thing that happened to me.  I am supposed to,
> according to the cable company, have a 1.5 Mbit connection.  Back when I
> was using Winblos, I couldn't get anywhere near that.  I usually could
> only download at about 13KB/s.  Then I discovered Linux!  Wow!  Suddenly
> I am downloading at over 230KB/s nearly all the time.  Is Linux just that
> good for connecting to the internet or is there another explanation for
> this?  Whatever it is, I am enjoying it.
>
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
>
> > I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5
bucks a
> > month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
> > Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
> >
> >
> > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
modem
> > connection I think I
> > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> > twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it,
it
> > was more like 360 kbs/s.
> >
> > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > >
> > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
backup
> > on that recommendation.
> > >
> > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > >
> > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
the
> > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting
them.
> > Hope
> > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K
(like I
> > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when
all
> > these
> > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to
be
> > the
> > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
good
> > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make
your
> > own
> > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on
slackware
> > 9.0
> > > > mirror sites).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jacob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Luke Davis]

Either that, or you've got a *lot* of spyware running.:)

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

> Hi Lorenzo,
>
> Simply switching to Linux does not explain such a speed difference.  While
> Linux does perform more efficiently than does Windows, the difference should
> certainly not be nearly as great.  It is more likely that the Windows
> machine was somehow misconfigured.
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
> Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
> A+, CCNA, Network+!
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem
>
>
> > Here's an interesting thing that happened to me.  I am supposed to,
> > according to the cable company, have a 1.5 Mbit connection.  Back when I
> > was using Winblos, I couldn't get anywhere near that.  I usually could
> > only download at about 13KB/s.  Then I discovered Linux!  Wow!  Suddenly
> > I am downloading at over 230KB/s nearly all the time.  Is Linux just that
> > good for connecting to the internet or is there another explanation for
> > this?  Whatever it is, I am enjoying it.
> >
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > E Pluribus Unix
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
> >
> > > I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5
> bucks a
> > > month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
> > > Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
> > >
> > >
> > > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
> modem
> > > connection I think I
> > > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> > > twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it,
> it
> > > was more like 360 kbs/s.
> > >
> > > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
> backup
> > > on that recommendation.
> > > >
> > > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > > >
> > > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
> the
> > > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting
> them.
> > > Hope
> > > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K
> (like I
> > > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when
> all
> > > these
> > > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to
> be
> > > the
> > > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
> good
> > > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make
> your
> > > own
> > > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on
> slackware
> > > 9.0
> > > > > mirror sites).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Jacob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Lorenzo Prince]

Quite possible, however in Winblows, I tried a considerable amount of
programs that were supposed to configure the system properly and/pr boost
my connection speed, and each one of them actually slowed my system down
more.  And even reinstalling Winblows on a clean hard drive from the
actual Microsoft-issued CD didn't help.  Winblows systems just must be
very hard to configure for maximum throughput.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

> Hi Lorenzo,
>
> Simply switching to Linux does not explain such a speed difference.  While
> Linux does perform more efficiently than does Windows, the difference should
> certainly not be nearly as great.  It is more likely that the Windows
> machine was somehow misconfigured.
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
> Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
> A+, CCNA, Network+!
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem
>
>
> > Here's an interesting thing that happened to me.  I am supposed to,
> > according to the cable company, have a 1.5 Mbit connection.  Back when I
> > was using Winblos, I couldn't get anywhere near that.  I usually could
> > only download at about 13KB/s.  Then I discovered Linux!  Wow!  Suddenly
> > I am downloading at over 230KB/s nearly all the time.  Is Linux just that
> > good for connecting to the internet or is there another explanation for
> > this?  Whatever it is, I am enjoying it.
> >
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > E Pluribus Unix
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
> >
> > > I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5
> bucks a
> > > month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
> > > Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
> > >
> > >
> > > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
> modem
> > > connection I think I
> > > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> > > twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it,
> it
> > > was more like 360 kbs/s.
> > >
> > > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
> backup
> > > on that recommendation.
> > > >
> > > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > > >
> > > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
> the
> > > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting
> them.
> > > Hope
> > > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K
> (like I
> > > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when
> all
> > > these
> > > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to
> be
> > > the
> > > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
> good
> > > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make
> your
> > > own
> > > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on
> slackware
> > > 9.0
> > > > > mirror sites).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Jacob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> > >
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[monte single]

Shame, shame, I am still using win 98se annd most of the time if I am downloading
a file of any size, let's say more than ten meg, the kbs/s can go anywhere from
100 to 200. 300 to 360 is sometimes experienced.

Lorenzo Prince wrote:

> Here's an interesting thing that happened to me.  I am supposed to,
> according to the cable company, have a 1.5 Mbit connection.  Back when I
> was using Winblos, I couldn't get anywhere near that.  I usually could
> only download at about 13KB/s.  Then I discovered Linux!  Wow!  Suddenly
> I am downloading at over 230KB/s nearly all the time.  Is Linux just that
> good for connecting to the internet or is there another explanation for
> this?  Whatever it is, I am enjoying it.
>
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
>
> > I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5 bucks a
> > month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
> > Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
> >
> >
> > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable modem
> > connection I think I
> > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> > twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
> > was more like 360 kbs/s.
> >
> > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > >
> > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup
> > on that recommendation.
> > >
> > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > >
> > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the
> > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
> > Hope
> > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I
> > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
> > these
> > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
> > the
> > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good
> > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
> > own
> > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
> > 9.0
> > > > mirror sites).
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jacob
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> >
> >
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Lorenzo Prince]

oops.  I saw a mistake in the message I sent.  Apparantly I said in
Winblows I was downloading at about 13KB/s.  I thought I had written, and
intended to write that I was downloading at about 130KB/S.  Sorry for the
confusion.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, monte single wrote:

> Shame, shame, I am still using win 98se annd most of the time if I am downloading
> a file of any size, let's say more than ten meg, the kbs/s can go anywhere from
> 100 to 200. 300 to 360 is sometimes experienced.
>
> Lorenzo Prince wrote:
>
> > Here's an interesting thing that happened to me.  I am supposed to,
> > according to the cable company, have a 1.5 Mbit connection.  Back when I
> > was using Winblos, I couldn't get anywhere near that.  I usually could
> > only download at about 13KB/s.  Then I discovered Linux!  Wow!  Suddenly
> > I am downloading at over 230KB/s nearly all the time.  Is Linux just that
> > good for connecting to the internet or is there another explanation for
> > this?  Whatever it is, I am enjoying it.
> >
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > E Pluribus Unix
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
> >
> > > I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5 bucks a
> > > month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
> > > Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
> > >
> > >
> > > How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable modem
> > > connection I think I
> > > depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> > > twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> > > downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
> > > was more like 360 kbs/s.
> > >
> > > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the backup
> > > on that recommendation.
> > > >
> > > > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> > > >
> > > > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but the
> > > > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
> > > Hope
> > > > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like I
> > > > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
> > > these
> > > > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
> > > the
> > > > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said... good
> > > > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
> > > own
> > > > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
> > > 9.0
> > > > > mirror sites).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Jacob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Glenn Ervinat home]

Hi Lorenzo,
I'll bet that your problem was the same as mine.
I was only downloading at that slow speed, and I did some research and found
out about a setting in the registry called mtu, and I set it to the highest
( 1500) I believe, and my download speed changed dramatically.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


Here's an interesting thing that happened to me.  I am supposed to,
according to the cable company, have a 1.5 Mbit connection.  Back when I
was using Winblos, I couldn't get anywhere near that.  I usually could
only download at about 13KB/s.  Then I discovered Linux!  Wow!  Suddenly
I am downloading at over 230KB/s nearly all the time.  Is Linux just that
good for connecting to the internet or is there another explanation for
this?  Whatever it is, I am enjoying it.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:

> I have a cable connection, and I am only using half speed, to save 5 bucks
a
> month, and I download at around 75 to 80 KB per second.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "monte single" <mrsingle@shaw.ca>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:51 PM
> Subject: t1 versus cabel/modem
>
>
> How does the download rate of  t1 compare to cabel modem. On my cable
modem
> connection I think I
> depends a lot on where I am downloading from. Sometimes I may only get
> twenty or thirty kbs/s. When I
> downloaded redhat 8.0 from limestone.oregon.edu----i think that was it, it
> was more like 360 kbs/s.
>
> Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for their reply.
> >
> > Thanks to Aaron for recommending the planetmirror site, and for the
backup
> on that recommendation.
> >
> > I'm downloading the iso from there right now as I write this.
> >
> > Having t1 is indeed very nice (smile).
> > Regards,
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:32:01AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > Oh, they're there, all right. On most of the slackware mirrors, but
the
> > > servers are so loaded down you're gonna have a fun time getting them.
> Hope
> > > you got a broadband connection, because if you're stuck with 56K (like
I
> > > am) you probably don't have a chance for another month or so when all
> these
> > > broadband users get done grabbing there isos. The best URL seems to be
> the
> > > one on planetmirror which was given here earlier, but as I said...
good
> > > luck getting ahold of it. Of course, if you want to, you can make your
> own
> > > iso image (instructions are found in isolinux/README.txt on slackware
> 9.0
> > > mirror sites).
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jacob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[ccrawford]

Is there a program to measure cable modem throughput?

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Bear in SFO]

Try tech.microsoft.com and find the link 'speed test'

At 06:07 AM 3/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Is there a program to measure cable modem throughput?
>
>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Charlie,

There are many web sites you can use to test bandwidth.  Of course, your
results will certainly vary from site to site.  It is also the case that
many of these sites require "show pictures" to be active in your browser in
order to provide a report, since they upload and download images in your
browser as part of the testing they perform.  If you have Windows 2000 or
XP, then you can take a look at some of the counters available under
Administrative Tools in the control panel.  Specifically, you're looking for
"Performance Logs and Alerts" or just a shortcut to "Performance" in the
case of Windows XP.  You can use ifconfig and various related tools in Linux
to obtain the same type of information about the amount of input and output
over Ethernet interfaces.

Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
A+, CCNA, Network+!
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom!
----- Original Message -----
From: <ccrawford@acb.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> Is there a program to measure cable modem throughput?
>
>
>
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Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Gregory Nowak]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 07:47:47AM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> You can use ifconfig and various related tools in Linux
> to obtain the same type of information about the amount of input and output
> over Ethernet interfaces.


Darrell, can you or someone else please expand on that?
Specifically, which lines of ifconfig give that type of info, and what other tools besides ifconfig were you referring to?
Thanks.

Greg

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[ccrawford]

I will try the ifconfig thing.  I have laready tested my Windows machine 
aOnd it gets 1.2 meg bits which is very good.  

-- charlie.
n Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Darrell 
Shandrow wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
> 
> There are many web sites you can use to test bandwidth.  Of course, your
> results will certainly vary from site to site.  It is also the case that
> many of these sites require "show pictures" to be active in your browser in
> order to provide a report, since they upload and download images in your
> browser as part of the testing they perform.  If you have Windows 2000 or
> XP, then you can take a look at some of the counters available under
> Administrative Tools in the control panel.  Specifically, you're looking for
> "Performance Logs and Alerts" or just a shortcut to "Performance" in the
> case of Windows XP.  You can use ifconfig and various related tools in Linux
> to obtain the same type of information about the amount of input and output
> over Ethernet interfaces.
> 
> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
> Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
> A+, CCNA, Network+!
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ccrawford@acb.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:07 AM
> Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem
> 
> 
> > Is there a program to measure cable modem throughput?
> >
> >
> >
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> 

NAT with iptables

[Peter Bossley]

Slightly off topic but Bil suggested I post here:
Here's what I need to do: I want my redhat linux machine to forward all
packets from my network out my dynamically assigned IP address my cable
provider gives me:
local interface is eth0
cable interface is eth1


All I want is  a simple NAT setup: I dont need any filtering.  Can someone
send me the commands I need to use and where  I should put them (this would
be great so I can get rid of my router, which isn't worth a darn anyway)

Re: t1 versus cabel/modem

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Gregory,

Well, you can use ifconfig to get very basic information, such as the
aggregate numbers of received and transmitted bytes and packets.  From that
information, you could calculate bandwidth used.  If you are running Red Hat
Linux, their copy of the ifconfig utility permits you to view the status of
all interfaces by simply typing /sbin/ifconfig and pressing enter.  If you
want information on a specific interface like eth0 (the first Ethernet
interface) then type:
/sbin/ifconfig eth0

If you run another distribution, you may need to type something like the
following to view the status of all interfaces:
ifconfig -a

I'm sure there are many other ways to do all this.  I haven't used them in
awhile now.

Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: t1 versus cabel/modem


> On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 07:47:47AM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> > You can use ifconfig and various related tools in Linux
> > to obtain the same type of information about the amount of input and
output
> > over Ethernet interfaces.
>
>
> Darrell, can you or someone else please expand on that?
> Specifically, which lines of ifconfig give that type of info, and what
other tools besides ifconfig were you referring to?
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
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