software synth on old laptop

software synth on old laptop

[John Heim]

Do I have to use alsa sound drivers to use speakup with espeak?

I've installed alsa-utils and I've run alsaconf but there seems to be a 
problem. I get error messages that it can't find device 0. I have this 
really old laptop with a Sound Blaster 8 built in. I've loaded the correct 
modues manually 'modprobe snd-sb8' but no matter what I do, I can't seem to 
get sound at all via the alsa drivers.

The oss drivers work fine.  But I can't get speech-dispatcher to work with 
espeak. I saw that in the espeak config file, it calls aplay. And aplay 
won't work possibly because I'm not using the alsa drivers. Am I on the 
right track here?

Re: software synth on old laptop

[Gregory Nowak]

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Aplay is an alsa program, so it won't work with oss. You need to use
play instead, if you're using oss.

Greg


On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 02:25:00PM -0600, John Heim wrote:
> Do I have to use alsa sound drivers to use speakup with espeak?
> 
> I've installed alsa-utils and I've run alsaconf but there seems to be a 
> problem. I get error messages that it can't find device 0. I have this 
> really old laptop with a Sound Blaster 8 built in. I've loaded the correct 
> modues manually 'modprobe snd-sb8' but no matter what I do, I can't seem to 
> get sound at all via the alsa drivers.
> 
> The oss drivers work fine.  But I can't get speech-dispatcher to work with 
> espeak. I saw that in the espeak config file, it calls aplay. And aplay 
> won't work possibly because I'm not using the alsa drivers. Am I on the 
> right track here?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: software synth on old laptop

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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Just change aplay to play in your espeak-generic.conf and you should
have no further trouble as long as you have sox installed.

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Re: software synth on old laptop

[Chris Norman]

You could use something other than aplay?

HTH,

Chris Norman
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From: "John Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:25 PM
Subject: software synth on old laptop


> Do I have to use alsa sound drivers to use speakup with espeak?
>
> I've installed alsa-utils and I've run alsaconf but there seems to be a
> problem. I get error messages that it can't find device 0. I have this
> really old laptop with a Sound Blaster 8 built in. I've loaded the correct
> modues manually 'modprobe snd-sb8' but no matter what I do, I can't seem 
> to
> get sound at all via the alsa drivers.
>
> The oss drivers work fine.  But I can't get speech-dispatcher to work with
> espeak. I saw that in the espeak config file, it calls aplay. And aplay
> won't work possibly because I'm not using the alsa drivers. Am I on the
> right track here?
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop

[Chris Norman]

Hi.

I am just thinking, which is better? OSS or ALSA?

Cheers,

Chris Norman
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Subject: Re: software synth on old laptop


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> Aplay is an alsa program, so it won't work with oss. You need to use
> play instead, if you're using oss.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 02:25:00PM -0600, John Heim wrote:
>> Do I have to use alsa sound drivers to use speakup with espeak?
>>
>> I've installed alsa-utils and I've run alsaconf but there seems to be a
>> problem. I get error messages that it can't find device 0. I have this
>> really old laptop with a Sound Blaster 8 built in. I've loaded the 
>> correct
>> modues manually 'modprobe snd-sb8' but no matter what I do, I can't seem 
>> to
>> get sound at all via the alsa drivers.
>>
>> The oss drivers work fine.  But I can't get speech-dispatcher to work 
>> with
>> espeak. I saw that in the espeak config file, it calls aplay. And aplay
>> won't work possibly because I'm not using the alsa drivers. Am I on the
>> right track here?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop

[Willem van der Walt]

Alsa if it works, because that is where future development is taking place 
and it generally allows for better control over the sound cards.


On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Chris Norman wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I am just thinking, which is better? OSS or ALSA?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris Norman
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: software synth on old laptop
> 
> 
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> > Aplay is an alsa program, so it won't work with oss. You need to use
> > play instead, if you're using oss.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 02:25:00PM -0600, John Heim wrote:
> >> Do I have to use alsa sound drivers to use speakup with espeak?
> >>
> >> I've installed alsa-utils and I've run alsaconf but there seems to be a
> >> problem. I get error messages that it can't find device 0. I have this
> >> really old laptop with a Sound Blaster 8 built in. I've loaded the 
> >> correct
> >> modues manually 'modprobe snd-sb8' but no matter what I do, I can't seem 
> >> to
> >> get sound at all via the alsa drivers.
> >>
> >> The oss drivers work fine.  But I can't get speech-dispatcher to work 
> >> with
> >> espeak. I saw that in the espeak config file, it calls aplay. And aplay
> >> won't work possibly because I'm not using the alsa drivers. Am I on the
> >> right track here?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop

[Chris Norman]

Cheers mate.

Chris Norman
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To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
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Subject: Re: Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop


> Alsa if it works, because that is where future development is taking place
> and it generally allows for better control over the sound cards.
>
>
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Chris Norman wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I am just thinking, which is better? OSS or ALSA?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris Norman
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: software synth on old laptop
>>
>>
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>> > Aplay is an alsa program, so it won't work with oss. You need to use
>> > play instead, if you're using oss.
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 02:25:00PM -0600, John Heim wrote:
>> >> Do I have to use alsa sound drivers to use speakup with espeak?
>> >>
>> >> I've installed alsa-utils and I've run alsaconf but there seems to be 
>> >> a
>> >> problem. I get error messages that it can't find device 0. I have this
>> >> really old laptop with a Sound Blaster 8 built in. I've loaded the
>> >> correct
>> >> modues manually 'modprobe snd-sb8' but no matter what I do, I can't 
>> >> seem
>> >> to
>> >> get sound at all via the alsa drivers.
>> >>
>> >> The oss drivers work fine.  But I can't get speech-dispatcher to work
>> >> with
>> >> espeak. I saw that in the espeak config file, it calls aplay. And 
>> >> aplay
>> >> won't work possibly because I'm not using the alsa drivers. Am I on 
>> >> the
>> >> right track here?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop

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No, dmix is neither a package, nor a binary, it's a part of the alsa
code. As of a certain version of alsa, I know alsa includes and uses
dmix by default. Before that version, I believe you had to apply dmix
as a patch to the alsa code. Unfortunately, I don't remember what the
version number was for this switch over. I do however recall Janina
posting that info a few times to this list, the last time being not too
long ago I believe, maybe even as part of this thread, or as  a part
of the advantages of a hardware synth thread. Sorry I can't be more
helpful.

Greg


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> Is dmix a separate package or something? I don't have it here on my
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> 
> Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question; I've heard of it before but
> naver had any experience with it here.  I use the Slackware package for
> ALSA support now.
> 

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Re: Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop

[Steve Holmes]

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Is dmix a separate package or something? I don't have it here on my
Slackware box.  Or at least I can't find a binary called dmix.

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question; I've heard of it before but
naver had any experience with it here.  I use the Slackware package for
ALSA support now.

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> This is true, even if the sound card doesn't support it, thanks to
> dmix.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 03:55:02PM -0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> > > And don't forget that alsa allows more than one sound to play at the same 
> > > time (soundcard permitting), which is definitely an advantage when using 
> > > software speech as you will get other sounds even if speech is going on.
> > >
> > > From
> > > Michael Whapples
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Re: Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop

[Gregory Nowak]

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This is true, even if the sound card doesn't support it, thanks to
dmix.

Greg


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> > time (soundcard permitting), which is definitely an advantage when using 
> > software speech as you will get other sounds even if speech is going on.
> >
> > From
> > Michael Whapples

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Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop

[Michael Whapples]

> And don't forget that alsa allows more than one sound to play at the same 
> time (soundcard permitting), which is definitely an advantage when using 
> software speech as you will get other sounds even if speech is going on.
>
> From
> Michael Whapples
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Willem van der Walt" <wvdwalt@csir.co.za>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Sound systems (Was:) Re: software synth on old laptop
>
>
>> Alsa if it works, because that is where future development is taking 
>> place
>> and it generally allows for better control over the sound cards.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Chris Norman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I am just thinking, which is better? OSS or ALSA?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris Norman
>>> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk -->
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: software synth on old laptop
>>>
>>>
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>>> > Aplay is an alsa program, so it won't work with oss. You need to use
>>> > play instead, if you're using oss.
>>> >
>>> > Greg
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 02:25:00PM -0600, John Heim wrote:
>>> >> Do I have to use alsa sound drivers to use speakup with espeak?
>>> >>
>>> >> I've installed alsa-utils and I've run alsaconf but there seems to be 
>>> >> a
>>> >> problem. I get error messages that it can't find device 0. I have 
>>> >> this
>>> >> really old laptop with a Sound Blaster 8 built in. I've loaded the
>>> >> correct
>>> >> modues manually 'modprobe snd-sb8' but no matter what I do, I can't 
>>> >> seem
>>> >> to
>>> >> get sound at all via the alsa drivers.
>>> >>
>>> >> The oss drivers work fine.  But I can't get speech-dispatcher to work
>>> >> with
>>> >> espeak. I saw that in the espeak config file, it calls aplay. And 
>>> >> aplay
>>> >> won't work possibly because I'm not using the alsa drivers. Am I on 
>>> >> the
>>> >> right track here?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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