* Some number problems in eSpeak
@ Lorenzo Taylor
` Jonathan Duddington
` jim grimsby jr.
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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I am finding some number pronunciation oddities in eSpeak. For example:
1.05 is spoken as 1 point 5
1.005 and 1.0005 are spoken as 1 point and 5
10000000 is spoken as 1 million
100000000 is spoken as 1 0 and thousand thousand
1,000,000,000 is spoken as 1 thousand million
12345 is spoken as 1 2 thousand 3 hundred and 45
Note that with the commas, numbers up through 99,999,999 seem to be spoken
correctly. However, there are a lot of instances where I find these numbers
without the commas.
Is there a way to change the way these numbers are spoken, or is this a bug?
Thanks for any help,
Lorenzo
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* Re: Some number problems in eSpeak
Some number problems in eSpeak Lorenzo Taylor
@ ` Jonathan Duddington
` Lorenzo Taylor
` Willem van der Walt
` jim grimsby jr.
1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Duddington @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
In article <20060425181654.GA27053@taylor.homelinux.net>,
Lorenzo Taylor <lorenzo@taylor.homelinux.net> wrote:
> Is there a way to change the way these numbers are spoken, or is this
> a bug?
The number pronunciation is all done by rules, see the ".group 9"
section towards the end of the data/english_rules file. So you can
experiment if you wish.
I should be able to fix item "1.05" easily, but making the rest
completely correct would make the rules much more complicated. It may
be better to write a number pronunciation routine in the main program,
rather than trying to do it all by rules (although that would make it
fixed).
Do you have any suggestions for how to say numbers, for example, should
a six or seven digit number without commas be spoken like "one million
two hundred and thirty four thousand five hundred and sixty seven"
(which is rather cumbersome), or as individual digits, or like a
telephone number with the digits spoken in pairs?
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` Jonathan Duddington
@ ` Lorenzo Taylor
` Willem van der Walt
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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# Do you have any suggestions for how to say numbers, for example, should
# a six or seven digit number without commas be spoken like "one million
# two hundred and thirty four thousand five hundred and sixty seven"
# (which is rather cumbersome), or as individual digits, or like a
# telephone number with the digits spoken in pairs?
This should probably be optional if at all possible. Although a number
with dashes like 800-555-8355 should probably be pronounced as a phone
number rather than as individual groups of numbers separated by dashes.
HTH,
Lorenzo
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` Jonathan Duddington
` Lorenzo Taylor
@ ` Willem van der Walt
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From: Willem van der Walt @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Considder using the rules rather than coding it.
What about the differing rules for the different languages?
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Jonathan Duddington wrote:
> In article <20060425181654.GA27053@taylor.homelinux.net>,
> Lorenzo Taylor <lorenzo@taylor.homelinux.net> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to change the way these numbers are spoken, or is this
>> a bug?
>
> The number pronunciation is all done by rules, see the ".group 9"
> section towards the end of the data/english_rules file. So you can
> experiment if you wish.
>
> I should be able to fix item "1.05" easily, but making the rest
> completely correct would make the rules much more complicated. It may
> be better to write a number pronunciation routine in the main program,
> rather than trying to do it all by rules (although that would make it
> fixed).
>
> Do you have any suggestions for how to say numbers, for example, should
> a six or seven digit number without commas be spoken like "one million
> two hundred and thirty four thousand five hundred and sixty seven"
> (which is rather cumbersome), or as individual digits, or like a
> telephone number with the digits spoken in pairs?
>
>
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* RE: Some number problems in eSpeak
Some number problems in eSpeak Lorenzo Taylor
` Jonathan Duddington
@ ` jim grimsby jr.
` Steve Holmes
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: jim grimsby jr. @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hi numbers with out the comma should be spoken as hole numbers.
Numbers with should be spoken as hole number
Numbers witten as a telephone number should be spoken as a telephone
number
Hth
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[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:17 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Some number problems in eSpeak
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I am finding some number pronunciation oddities in eSpeak. For example:
1.05 is spoken as 1 point 5
1.005 and 1.0005 are spoken as 1 point and 5
10000000 is spoken as 1 million
100000000 is spoken as 1 0 and thousand thousand
1,000,000,000 is spoken as 1 thousand million
12345 is spoken as 1 2 thousand 3 hundred and 45
Note that with the commas, numbers up through 99,999,999 seem to be
spoken correctly. However, there are a lot of instances where I find
these numbers without the commas.
Is there a way to change the way these numbers are spoken, or is this a
bug?
Thanks for any help,
Lorenzo
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-- Wm. Shakespeare, "Henry VI"
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` jim grimsby jr.
@ ` Steve Holmes
` Gregory Nowak
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
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I actually like the numbers to be spoken as whole words even when the
commas are missing. That's where the Accent synth drives me nuts when I
display free space or do a 'du' on my box and those numbers are not
punctuated. I find it harder to quickly parse a 6 or 7 digit number as
a string of digits when I'm interested in knowing how much space is
being used on my machine.
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 06:40:38AM -0700, jim grimsby jr. wrote:
> Hi numbers with out the comma should be spoken as hole numbers.
> Numbers with should be spoken as hole number
> Numbers witten as a telephone number should be spoken as a telephone
> number
> Hth
> Jim Grimsby jr.
> msn jim.grimsby@att.net
> email jimgrims@pacbell.net
> skype jim.grimsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:17 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Some number problems in eSpeak
>
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> I am finding some number pronunciation oddities in eSpeak. For example:
>
> 1.05 is spoken as 1 point 5
> 1.005 and 1.0005 are spoken as 1 point and 5
> 10000000 is spoken as 1 million
> 100000000 is spoken as 1 0 and thousand thousand
> 1,000,000,000 is spoken as 1 thousand million
> 12345 is spoken as 1 2 thousand 3 hundred and 45
>
> Note that with the commas, numbers up through 99,999,999 seem to be
> spoken correctly. However, there are a lot of instances where I find
> these numbers without the commas.
>
> Is there a way to change the way these numbers are spoken, or is this a
> bug?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Lorenzo
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` Steve Holmes
@ ` Gregory Nowak
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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If I may add one more opinion to the mix, I personally like Steve's
preference myself, pronounce the numbers as whole words, the way the
doubletalk and the bns do. So, for example, 1234567 would be spoken as
one-million two-hundred-thirty-four-thousand
five-hundred-sixty-seven, without the dashes of course, which I only
put in for clarity.
Greg
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 07:41:26AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> I actually like the numbers to be spoken as whole words even when the
> commas are missing. That's where the Accent synth drives me nuts when I
> display free space or do a 'du' on my box and those numbers are not
> punctuated. I find it harder to quickly parse a 6 or 7 digit number as
> a string of digits when I'm interested in knowing how much space is
> being used on my machine.
>
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