Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi all
	Well, thanks to Mr. Hanke of the speechd time who made a change to
the generic.c module, I have been able to discover and resolve the problem
of DECTalk not starting at system boot-up. It turns out to be one of those
simple, should-have-been-obvious things that one feels like an idiot for
missing.
The Problem:
	DECTalk is installed in  the /usr/local tree, and say resides in
/usr/local/bin. However, the initscripts don't include /usr/local/bin in
their path statements, for valid security reasons. As a result of this,
the shell couldn't find the say command and thus it wasn't being
executed.
The Solution
	Edit dtk-generic.conf. Where the say command is referenced, put
the full path to say like:
/usr/local/bin/say
	Save the file. That's it. Now it will execute properly on startup.
HTH

Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Stephen Clower]

Great! Now if I can figure out how to fix that strange /var/run/*.pid error, I'll be able to use Speakup with Dectalk without having to login as root every time.



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On 5/2/2004 at 9:48 AM Jacob Schmude wrote:

>Hi all
>	Well, thanks to Mr. Hanke of the speechd time who made a change to
>the generic.c module, I have been able to discover and resolve the problem
>of DECTalk not starting at system boot-up. It turns out to be one of those
>simple, should-have-been-obvious things that one feels like an idiot for
>missing.
>The Problem:
>	DECTalk is installed in  the /usr/local tree, and say resides in
>/usr/local/bin. However, the initscripts don't include /usr/local/bin in
>their path statements, for valid security reasons. As a result of this,
>the shell couldn't find the say command and thus it wasn't being
>executed.
>The Solution
>	Edit dtk-generic.conf. Where the say command is referenced, put
>the full path to say like:
>/usr/local/bin/say
>	Save the file. That's it. Now it will execute properly on startup.
>HTH
>
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>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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Congratulations! That solves my problem too.

Next problem: How to set those voice parameters $VOICE, $PITCH,
and $RATE! The /proc/speakup variables pitch and rate affect
them, but I doubt that is the intended way.

Problem #2. Is there a preferred way to abandon the softsynth and
switch to another speakup driver using the external doubletalk?
For instance should speechd_up be killed? speech-dispatcher?

Chuck



On Sun, 2 May 2004, Jacob Schmude wrote:

> Hi all
> 	Well, thanks to Mr. Hanke of the speechd time who made a change to
> the generic.c module, I have been able to discover and resolve the problem
> of DECTalk not starting at system boot-up. It turns out to be one of those
> simple, should-have-been-obvious things that one feels like an idiot for
> missing.
> The Problem:
> 	DECTalk is installed in  the /usr/local tree, and say resides in
> /usr/local/bin. However, the initscripts don't include /usr/local/bin in
> their path statements, for valid security reasons. As a result of this,
> the shell couldn't find the say command and thus it wasn't being
> executed.
> The Solution
> 	Edit dtk-generic.conf. Where the say command is referenced, put
> the full path to say like:
> /usr/local/bin/say
> 	Save the file. That's it. Now it will execute properly on startup.
> HTH
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. You're changing the rate, pitch,
and voice while in speakup, so why wouldn't the /proc/speakup directory
files be used? Since you're changing the parameters from speakup, that is
indeed the preferred way to make use of them. You do this the same way you
would for other synths. BTW, pitch and rate have ranges 0-9, voice has
range 0-8 although what values work depends on the software synth being
used, values 0-7 work on dectalk.
To switch back to your ltlk, echo ltlk >/proc/speakup/synth_name and then
kill speechd_up. To switch back, change to sftsyn and start speechd_up
again.
HTH

On Sun, 2 May 2004, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:

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> Congratulations! That solves my problem too.
>
> Next problem: How to set those voice parameters $VOICE, $PITCH,
> and $RATE! The /proc/speakup variables pitch and rate affect
> them, but I doubt that is the intended way.
>
> Problem #2. Is there a preferred way to abandon the softsynth and
> switch to another speakup driver using the external doubletalk?
> For instance should speechd_up be killed? speech-dispatcher?
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2 May 2004, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> > 	Well, thanks to Mr. Hanke of the speechd time who made a change to
> > the generic.c module, I have been able to discover and resolve the problem
> > of DECTalk not starting at system boot-up. It turns out to be one of those
> > simple, should-have-been-obvious things that one feels like an idiot for
> > missing.
> > The Problem:
> > 	DECTalk is installed in  the /usr/local tree, and say resides in
> > /usr/local/bin. However, the initscripts don't include /usr/local/bin in
> > their path statements, for valid security reasons. As a result of this,
> > the shell couldn't find the say command and thus it wasn't being
> > executed.
> > The Solution
> > 	Edit dtk-generic.conf. Where the say command is referenced, put
> > the full path to say like:
> > /usr/local/bin/say
> > 	Save the file. That's it. Now it will execute properly on startup.
> > HTH
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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Okay. Actually, I forgot about the speakup commands to change
rate! I have been doing it by echoing a value to the
/proc/speakup variables.

The thing about killing speechd_up is what I was missing. I have
been changing back to the ltlk just fine, but have then been
unable to bring the softsynth back since I had not been killing
speechd_up.

The more I use this facility, the more I like it.

You mentioned the clicks once (or someone did). But you hear the
same clicks from the doubletalk if you pipe it into a decent
sound system, such as patching it into "line in" on the sound
card. Maybe not quite as bad, but definitely choppy.

Chuck


On Sun, 2 May 2004, Jacob Schmude wrote:

> Hi
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. You're changing the rate, pitch,
> and voice while in speakup, so why wouldn't the /proc/speakup directory
> files be used? Since you're changing the parameters from speakup, that is
> indeed the preferred way to make use of them. You do this the same way you
> would for other synths. BTW, pitch and rate have ranges 0-9, voice has
> range 0-8 although what values work depends on the software synth being
> used, values 0-7 work on dectalk.
> To switch back to your ltlk, echo ltlk >/proc/speakup/synth_name and then
> kill speechd_up. To switch back, change to sftsyn and start speechd_up
> again.
> HTH
>
> On Sun, 2 May 2004, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
>
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> > Congratulations! That solves my problem too.
> >
> > Next problem: How to set those voice parameters $VOICE, $PITCH,
> > and $RATE! The /proc/speakup variables pitch and rate affect
> > them, but I doubt that is the intended way.
> >
> > Problem #2. Is there a preferred way to abandon the softsynth and
> > switch to another speakup driver using the external doubletalk?
> > For instance should speechd_up be killed? speech-dispatcher?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2 May 2004, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all
> > > 	Well, thanks to Mr. Hanke of the speechd time who made a change to
> > > the generic.c module, I have been able to discover and resolve the problem
> > > of DECTalk not starting at system boot-up. It turns out to be one of those
> > > simple, should-have-been-obvious things that one feels like an idiot for
> > > missing.
> > > The Problem:
> > > 	DECTalk is installed in  the /usr/local tree, and say resides in
> > > /usr/local/bin. However, the initscripts don't include /usr/local/bin in
> > > their path statements, for valid security reasons. As a result of this,
> > > the shell couldn't find the say command and thus it wasn't being
> > > executed.
> > > The Solution
> > > 	Edit dtk-generic.conf. Where the say command is referenced, put
> > > the full path to say like:
> > > /usr/local/bin/say
> > > 	Save the file. That's it. Now it will execute properly on startup.
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
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> > My home page is now at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh
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Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
Echoing values to /proc/speakup is exactly how you're supposed to do it.

On Sun, 2 May 2004, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:

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> Okay. Actually, I forgot about the speakup commands to change
> rate! I have been doing it by echoing a value to the
> /proc/speakup variables.

changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems)

[Hynek Hanke]

> Okay. Actually, I forgot about the speakup commands to change
> rate! I have been doing it by echoing a value to the
> /proc/speakup variables.

There is a Speakup command for setting rate, pitch and similar things?
I though the echo to /proc is the only way. Where can I read about
the shortcuts used for this?
 
Thanks,
Hynek

Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yeah, but the pitch and range change  when you reboot so it's a
pain!!!

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Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
That'll happen with any synth, put the echo lines you desire in your
speechd_up startup script right after speechd-up is started.

On Sun, 2 May 2004, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Yeah, but the pitch and range change  when you reboot so it's a
> pain!!!

Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems)

[Igor Gueths]

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Play around with numpad insert+typewriter 1-6 keys.
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 12:50:31AM +0200, Hynek Hanke wrote:
> > Okay. Actually, I forgot about the speakup commands to change
> > rate! I have been doing it by echoing a value to the
> > /proc/speakup variables.
> 
> There is a Speakup command for setting rate, pitch and similar things?
> I though the echo to /proc is the only way. Where can I read about
> the shortcuts used for this?
>  
> Thanks,
> Hynek
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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Well, I store the preferred defaults in subdirectories under
/etc/speakup, and when I change synths, I restore the appropriate
defaults. See the scripts I posted.

On Sun, 2 May 2004, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Yeah, but the pitch and range change  when you reboot so it's a
> pain!!!
>
>

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Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems)

[nick G]

Wish there was a way to save that to the Kernel like in the old speakup
config.
Thanks,
Nick
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To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for
DECTalk initscript problems)


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> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 12:50:31AM +0200, Hynek Hanke wrote:
> > > Okay. Actually, I forgot about the speakup commands to change
> > > rate! I have been doing it by echoing a value to the
> > > /proc/speakup variables.
> >
> > There is a Speakup command for setting rate, pitch and similar things?
> > I though the echo to /proc is the only way. Where can I read about
> > the shortcuts used for this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hynek
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems)

[Steve Holmes]

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On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:43:39PM -0400, nick G wrote:
> Wish there was a way to save that to the Kernel like in the old speakup
> config.

There is.  The speakupconf command does this.  It esentially copies
the relevant /proc/speakup/parms to a separate directory.
'speakupconf save' does this and 'speakupconf load' copies them back
in.  I've been thinking of modifying this shell script to store the
settings in a separate directory for each synth type.  Chuck may
already have this going with his scripts.

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Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems)

[nick G]

Not there.  There is no speakupconf or speakupload in this CFS of speakup.
Thanks,
Nick
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Subject: Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for
DECTalk initscript problems)


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> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:43:39PM -0400, nick G wrote:
> > Wish there was a way to save that to the Kernel like in the old speakup
> > config.
>
> There is.  The speakupconf command does this.  It esentially copies
> the relevant /proc/speakup/parms to a separate directory.
> 'speakupconf save' does this and 'speakupconf load' copies them back
> in.  I've been thinking of modifying this shell script to store the
> settings in a separate directory for each synth type.  Chuck may
> already have this going with his scripts.
>
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Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for DECTalk initscript problems)

[Steve Holmes]

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Yes it is.  Or at least it was with recent versions of Speakup.  It is
originally located down in among the other speakup files under
drivers/char/speakup.  But now that you mention it, I just made the
changes to save synthesizer specific parameters and I uploaded it to
pub/incoming on the linux site.  Could Kirk or somebody move this into
the regular Speakup repository?  It saves the /proc/speakup parms into
a directory named by /proc/speakup/synth_name at the time the script
is run.

On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 08:48:32PM -0400, nick G wrote:
> Not there.  There is no speakupconf or speakupload in this CFS of speakup.
> Thanks,
> Nick
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> From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: changing rate, pitch, voice from Speakup (was: Re: Fix for
> DECTalk initscript problems)
> 
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> > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:43:39PM -0400, nick G wrote:
> > > Wish there was a way to save that to the Kernel like in the old speakup
> > > config.
> >
> > There is.  The speakupconf command does this.  It esentially copies
> > the relevant /proc/speakup/parms to a separate directory.
> > 'speakupconf save' does this and 'speakupconf load' copies them back
> > in.  I've been thinking of modifying this shell script to store the
> > settings in a separate directory for each synth type.  Chuck may
> > already have this going with his scripts.
> >
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