speak freely via a router

speak freely via a router

[ameer armaly]

Hi all.
I was wondering if it is possible to use speak freely through I router.
I ask this question for two reasons:
1.  I heard a few days ago something about speakfreely and router
configurations
2.  I tried getting on the echo server with my laptop, which runs through
my desktop (a windows router unfortunately), with no firewalls, and don't
get any responces; I've done local connects and it works fine.
Any suggestions would be appriciated.
Thanks,



Ameer

Re: speak freely via a router

[Igor Gueths]

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It's possible, you just have to either dmz your laptop or open up 
TCP/UDP 2074-2076 and TCP/UDP 4074-4076. And wtf are you doing with a 
windblows router anyway?
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:19:59PM -0400, ameer armaly wrote:
> Hi all.
> I was wondering if it is possible to use speak freely through I router.
> I ask this question for two reasons:
> 1.  I heard a few days ago something about speakfreely and router
> configurations
> 2.  I tried getting on the echo server with my laptop, which runs through
> my desktop (a windows router unfortunately), with no firewalls, and don't
> get any responces; I've done local connects and it works fine.
> Any suggestions would be appriciated.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Ameer
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: speak freely via a router

[ameer armaly]

Ah.   Well, it turns out that the only  way I could have access to the
internet is to run my laptop through the family computer; obviously, they
don't know the first thing about a  computer besides click this  or that,
and won't try linux whatever I say.  Thus, this forces me to setup the
family box as a router, and I have to run it through there.


On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Igor Gueths wrote:

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> It's possible, you just have to either dmz your laptop or open up
> TCP/UDP 2074-2076 and TCP/UDP 4074-4076. And wtf are you doing with a
> windblows router anyway?
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:19:59PM -0400, ameer armaly wrote:
> > Hi all.
> > I was wondering if it is possible to use speak freely through I router.
> > I ask this question for two reasons:
> > 1.  I heard a few days ago something about speakfreely and router
> > configurations
> > 2.  I tried getting on the echo server with my laptop, which runs through
> > my desktop (a windows router unfortunately), with no firewalls, and don't
> > get any responces; I've done local connects and it works fine.
> > Any suggestions would be appriciated.
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ameer
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: speak freely via a router

[David Csercsics]

>Ah.   Well, it turns out that the only  way I could have access to the
>internet is to run my laptop through the family computer; obviously, they
>don't know the first thing about a  computer besides click this  or that,
>and won't try linux whatever I say.  Thus, this forces me to setup the
>family box as a router, and I have to run it through there.
>



Well that shouldn't be necessary just get an ISP	 that will
give you multiple IP addresses and then you use a hub not  a router
so that the computers and operating systems won't matter. We have a
Windows box here that is on the same cable modem as this one but the
cable company gives you up to 4 IP's  so it's not a problem.

Re: speak freely via a router

[Igor Gueths]

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Have you tried getting your isp's DHCP server to assign you another ip 
address?
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:38:14PM -0400, ameer armaly wrote:
> Ah.   Well, it turns out that the only  way I could have access to the
> internet is to run my laptop through the family computer; obviously, they
> don't know the first thing about a  computer besides click this  or that,
> and won't try linux whatever I say.  Thus, this forces me to setup the
> family box as a router, and I have to run it through there.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Igor Gueths wrote:
> 
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> >
> > It's possible, you just have to either dmz your laptop or open up
> > TCP/UDP 2074-2076 and TCP/UDP 4074-4076. And wtf are you doing with a
> > windblows router anyway?
> > On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:19:59PM -0400, ameer armaly wrote:
> > > Hi all.
> > > I was wondering if it is possible to use speak freely through I router.
> > > I ask this question for two reasons:
> > > 1.  I heard a few days ago something about speakfreely and router
> > > configurations
> > > 2.  I tried getting on the echo server with my laptop, which runs through
> > > my desktop (a windows router unfortunately), with no firewalls, and don't
> > > get any responces; I've done local connects and it works fine.
> > > Any suggestions would be appriciated.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ameer
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: speak freely via a router

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi,

	If your ISP won't give you multiple IP's or will charge you more for them, you might consider a hardware  router. I have a Linksys which connects to my cable modem	and does ip masquerading for all the local machines to the internet.

	hth,

	--terry

On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 01:49:55PM -0700, David Csercsics wrote:
> >Ah.   Well, it turns out that the only  way I could have access to the
> >internet is to run my laptop through the family computer; obviously, they
> >don't know the first thing about a  computer besides click this  or that,
> >and won't try linux whatever I say.  Thus, this forces me to setup the
> >family box as a router, and I have to run it through there.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Well that shouldn't be necessary just get an ISP	 that will
> give you multiple IP addresses and then you use a hub not  a router
> so that the computers and operating systems won't matter. We have a
> Windows box here that is on the same cable modem as this one but the
> cable company gives you up to 4 IP's  so it's not a problem.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: speak freely via a router

[David Csercsics]

>Hi,
>
>	If your ISP won't give you multiple IP's or will charge you more for them, you might consider a hardware  router. I have a Linksys which connects to my cable modem	and does ip masqueradin
g for all the local machines to the internet.


What Linksys router do you have? Does its interface work in Linux. I
was thinking about getting a router for here because there's a
Windblows box here that needs some protection but I don't want a
router that needs windows to configure it.

Re: speak freely via a router

[Stephen Clower]

Most, if not all routers, are operating system independent. The Linksys line of routers is configured through a browser interface, so if you're able to surf the net in Linux then you won't have any problems configuring it.



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On 4/7/2004 at 2:33 PM David Csercsics wrote:

>>Hi,
>>
>>	If your ISP won't give you multiple IP's or will charge you more for
>them, you might consider a hardware  router. I have a Linksys which
>connects to my cable modem	and does ip masqueradin
>g for all the local machines to the internet.
>
>
>What Linksys router do you have? Does its interface work in Linux. I
>was thinking about getting a router for here because there's a
>Windblows box here that needs some protection but I don't want a
>router that needs windows to configure it.
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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You can reach me by any of the following:
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You can also check out my little home on the web by visiting http://www.steve-audio.net

Re: speak freely via a router

[Nick Van Vlaenderen]

Well... I have a D-Link router taht has a webinterface. I can surf in Linux
but I can't use the interface, because it is too graphical. Most of them
are, anyway.

Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Clower" <steve@steve-audio.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: speak freely via a router


Most, if not all routers, are operating system independent. The Linksys line
of routers is configured through a browser interface, so if you're able to
surf the net in Linux then you won't have any problems configuring it.



*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 4/7/2004 at 2:33 PM David Csercsics wrote:

>>Hi,
>>
>> If your ISP won't give you multiple IP's or will charge you more for
>them, you might consider a hardware  router. I have a Linksys which
>connects to my cable modem and does ip masqueradin
>g for all the local machines to the internet.
>
>
>What Linksys router do you have? Does its interface work in Linux. I
>was thinking about getting a router for here because there's a
>Windblows box here that needs some protection but I don't want a
>router that needs windows to configure it.
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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You can reach me by any of the following:
E-Mail: steve@steve-audio.net
MSN: steve@steve-audio.net
AIM: AudioRabbit03

You can also check out my little home on the web by visiting
http://www.steve-audio.net



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Re: speak freely via a router

[Alex Snow]

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try forwarding the ports.
I know in the unix client there's an option for people behind a nat so 
you may want to give that a try. I'm not sure if this exists under 
winblows though.
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:19:59PM -0400, ameer armaly 
wrote:
> Hi all.
> I was wondering if it is possible to use speak freely through I router.
> I ask this question for two reasons:
> 1.  I heard a few days ago something about speakfreely and router
> configurations
> 2.  I tried getting on the echo server with my laptop, which runs through
> my desktop (a windows router unfortunately), with no firewalls, and don't
> get any responces; I've done local connects and it works fine.
> Any suggestions would be appriciated.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Ameer
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: speak freely via a router

[Alex Snow]

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can't you get an old 486 or something and use something like freesco 
on it to route?
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:38:14PM -0400, ameer armaly 
wrote:
> Ah.   Well, it turns out that the only  way I could have access to the
> internet is to run my laptop through the family computer; obviously, they
> don't know the first thing about a  computer besides click this  or that,
> and won't try linux whatever I say.  Thus, this forces me to setup the
> family box as a router, and I have to run it through there.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Igor Gueths wrote:
> 
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > It's possible, you just have to either dmz your laptop or open up
> > TCP/UDP 2074-2076 and TCP/UDP 4074-4076. And wtf are you doing with a
> > windblows router anyway?
> > On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:19:59PM -0400, ameer armaly wrote:
> > > Hi all.
> > > I was wondering if it is possible to use speak freely through I router.
> > > I ask this question for two reasons:
> > > 1.  I heard a few days ago something about speakfreely and router
> > > configurations
> > > 2.  I tried getting on the echo server with my laptop, which runs through
> > > my desktop (a windows router unfortunately), with no firewalls, and don't
> > > get any responces; I've done local connects and it works fine.
> > > Any suggestions would be appriciated.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ameer
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: speak freely via a router

[Alex Snow]

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you may have some success with the befsr41 from linksys...I never got 
it configured using linux but I think it's possible. It's a good 
stable piece of kit though.
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 02:33:08PM -0700, 
David Csercsics wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >	If your ISP won't give you multiple IP's or will charge you more for them, you might consider a hardware  router. I have a Linksys which connects to my cable modem	and does ip masqueradin
> g for all the local machines to the internet.
> 
> 
> What Linksys router do you have? Does its interface work in Linux. I
> was thinking about getting a router for here because there's a
> Windblows box here that needs some protection but I don't want a
> router that needs windows to configure it.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: speak freely via a router

[Alex Snow]

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I think he's asking is the web interface useable with the browsers we 
currently have access to in linux.
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:39:17PM 
- -0500, Stephen Clower wrote:
> Most, if not all routers, are operating system independent. The Linksys line of routers is configured through a browser interface, so if you're able to surf the net in Linux then you won't have any problems configuring it.
> 
> 
> 
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> 
> On 4/7/2004 at 2:33 PM David Csercsics wrote:
> 
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>	If your ISP won't give you multiple IP's or will charge you more for
> >them, you might consider a hardware  router. I have a Linksys which
> >connects to my cable modem	and does ip masqueradin
> >g for all the local machines to the internet.
> >
> >
> >What Linksys router do you have? Does its interface work in Linux. I
> >was thinking about getting a router for here because there's a
> >Windblows box here that needs some protection but I don't want a
> >router that needs windows to configure it.
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> Stephen Clower, that guy from the south.
> You can reach me by any of the following:
> E-Mail: steve@steve-audio.net
> MSN: steve@steve-audio.net
> AIM: AudioRabbit03
> 
> You can also check out my little home on the web by visiting http://www.steve-audio.net
>     
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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RE: speak freely via a router

[Sina Bahram]

Actually if you just buy a router then you won't need a hub or multiple Ips.

The only reason I mention this is that most of the time buying extra IP
addresses is insanely expensive...you have four? That's awesome.

Take care,
Sina

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electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:50 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; ameer armaly
Subject: Re: speak freely via a router


>Ah.   Well, it turns out that the only  way I could have access to the
>internet is to run my laptop through the family computer; obviously, 
>they don't know the first thing about a  computer besides click this  
>or that, and won't try linux whatever I say.  Thus, this forces me to 
>setup the family box as a router, and I have to run it through there.
>



Well that shouldn't be necessary just get an ISP	 that will
give you multiple IP addresses and then you use a hub not  a router so that
the computers and operating systems won't matter. We have a Windows box here
that is on the same cable modem as this one but the cable company gives you
up to 4 IP's  so it's not a problem.

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Re: speak freely via a router

[Alex Snow]

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though switches are dirt cheap and a linux router is easy to setup and 
more configurable then a hardware solution available to the general 
consumer.
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 06:48:54PM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Actually if you just buy a router then you won't need a hub or multiple Ips.
> 
> The only reason I mention this is that most of the time buying extra IP
> addresses is insanely expensive...you have four? That's awesome.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:50 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; ameer armaly
> Subject: Re: speak freely via a router
> 
> 
> >Ah.   Well, it turns out that the only  way I could have access to the
> >internet is to run my laptop through the family computer; obviously, 
> >they don't know the first thing about a  computer besides click this  
> >or that, and won't try linux whatever I say.  Thus, this forces me to 
> >setup the family box as a router, and I have to run it through there.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Well that shouldn't be necessary just get an ISP	 that will
> give you multiple IP addresses and then you use a hub not  a router so that
> the computers and operating systems won't matter. We have a Windows box here
> that is on the same cable modem as this one but the cable company gives you
> up to 4 IP's  so it's not a problem.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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Re: speak freely via a router

[Ameer Armaly]

Well, I just got a nnetgear mr842; the web interface is very usable; it's
organized in a tree structure; it just occasionally wants to configure my
settings for me (again), but otherwise, it's a good piece of equipment.  It
also does wireless; another plus.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: speak freely via a router


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> Hash: SHA1
>
> I think he's asking is the web interface useable with the browsers we
> currently have access to in linux.
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 04:39:17PM
> - -0500, Stephen Clower wrote:
> > Most, if not all routers, are operating system independent. The Linksys
line of routers is configured through a browser interface, so if you're able
to surf the net in Linux then you won't have any problems configuring it.
> >
> >
> >
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> > On 4/7/2004 at 2:33 PM David Csercsics wrote:
> >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >> If your ISP won't give you multiple IP's or will charge you more for
> > >them, you might consider a hardware  router. I have a Linksys which
> > >connects to my cable modem and does ip masqueradin
> > >g for all the local machines to the internet.
> > >
> > >
> > >What Linksys router do you have? Does its interface work in Linux. I
> > >was thinking about getting a router for here because there's a
> > >Windblows box here that needs some protection but I don't want a
> > >router that needs windows to configure it.
> > >
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Re: speak freely via a router

[Christopher Moore]

I have one of these linksys routers and can get into it using w3m but NOT
lynx or links.

Chris

Re: speak freely via a router

[Guy Abandon.]

I would have gone the way of recommending a D-Link router as we have one
here too; but it took a machine with Windows and i.e5 or above to configure
it.  A shame given how many other possibilities there are here and none of
them worked.  Mozilla, Netscape, both LINKS/LYNX.  But otherwise, it does
work a treat and working to capacity with all four local ports occupied - 2
Windows (different) and 2 Linux (both different).

GA!

Re: speak freely via a router

[Guy Abandon.]

<<more configurable then a hardware solution available to the general
consumer.>>

The general consumer don't generally need that much configurability; they
want quick working simplicity.  So the D-Link router as mentioned was just
such a solution.  I got the little instruction manual scanned if anyone
wants a read.  I think I paid about £70 for it, these things can come a lot
more and less than that; mine is a good average.  This one is the D-Link
DI604.
They help as first level firewall too, an integral part of nearly all of
them.

GA!

Re: speak freely via a router

[Rejean Proulx]

dlink routers are not very accessible using Windows and explorer 5.  Linksys
routers are much easier for a blind person to configure if on would solve
your problems.  I know, I have both kinds.  I don't knew is linksys would
work with lynx.  I suspect it would as it is quite text based.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Abandon." <text.tools@virgin.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: speak freely via a router


I would have gone the way of recommending a D-Link router as we have one
here too; but it took a machine with Windows and i.e5 or above to configure
it.  A shame given how many other possibilities there are here and none of
them worked.  Mozilla, Netscape, both LINKS/LYNX.  But otherwise, it does
work a treat and working to capacity with all four local ports occupied - 2
Windows (different) and 2 Linux (both different).

GA!


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Re: speak freely via a router

[Janina Sajka]

I have an SMC Barricade that provides me 802.11b plus 3 100Mbps ethernet jackes. It does NAT do a degree as well. I have it serving 192.168.177.0 on wireless and 192.168.77.0 on the wired ports. Some machines have static IPs, and others are assigned via DHCP all of which this router manages quite well. I configure everything using Lynx. I can do everything except make the changes take effect with Lynx. Fortunately, the changes take effect by simply power cycling the router. In other words, I can save my changes to the router's memory, I just can't power cycle it from Lynx. I have to power cycle by hand.

Rejean Proulx writes:
> dlink routers are not very accessible using Windows and explorer 5.  Linksys
> routers are much easier for a blind person to configure if on would solve
> your problems.  I know, I have both kinds.  I don't knew is linksys would
> work with lynx.  I suspect it would as it is quite text based.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Guy Abandon." <text.tools@virgin.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:15 AM
> Subject: Re: speak freely via a router
> 
> 
> I would have gone the way of recommending a D-Link router as we have one
> here too; but it took a machine with Windows and i.e5 or above to configure
> it.  A shame given how many other possibilities there are here and none of
> them worked.  Mozilla, Netscape, both LINKS/LYNX.  But otherwise, it does
> work a treat and working to capacity with all four local ports occupied - 2
> Windows (different) and 2 Linux (both different).
> 
> GA!
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: speak freely via a router

[Erik Heil]

Some routers actually have a telnet interface, so we don't even have to deal
with the Web-based stuff.  Hmmm, Xyxel makes them, but they're DSL
modems/bridges.  Cisco also does, but unless you get them on EBay, forget
about it, they're expensive for what you want them to do.  Granted they
provide nice features.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: speak freely via a router


> I have an SMC Barricade that provides me 802.11b plus 3 100Mbps ethernet
jackes. It does NAT do a degree as well. I have it serving 192.168.177.0 on
wireless and 192.168.77.0 on the wired ports. Some machines have static IPs,
and others are assigned via DHCP all of which this router manages quite
well. I configure everything using Lynx. I can do everything except make the
changes take effect with Lynx. Fortunately, the changes take effect by
simply power cycling the router. In other words, I can save my changes to
the router's memory, I just can't power cycle it from Lynx. I have to power
cycle by hand.
>
> Rejean Proulx writes:
> > dlink routers are not very accessible using Windows and explorer 5.
Linksys
> > routers are much easier for a blind person to configure if on would
solve
> > your problems.  I know, I have both kinds.  I don't knew is linksys
would
> > work with lynx.  I suspect it would as it is quite text based.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Guy Abandon." <text.tools@virgin.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: speak freely via a router
> >
> >
> > I would have gone the way of recommending a D-Link router as we have one
> > here too; but it took a machine with Windows and i.e5 or above to
configure
> > it.  A shame given how many other possibilities there are here and none
of
> > them worked.  Mozilla, Netscape, both LINKS/LYNX.  But otherwise, it
does
> > work a treat and working to capacity with all four local ports
occupied - 2
> > Windows (different) and 2 Linux (both different).
> >
> > GA!
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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> >
> >
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>
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>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: speak freely via a router

[Janina Sajka]

Yes, managing via telnet can be the coolest.

I did update the firmware in my SMC using ftp, which is supported by SMC, too.

Erik Heil writes:
> Some routers actually have a telnet interface, so we don't even have to deal
> with the Web-based stuff.  Hmmm, Xyxel makes them, but they're DSL
> modems/bridges.  Cisco also does, but unless you get them on EBay, forget
> about it, they're expensive for what you want them to do.  Granted they
> provide nice features.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM
> Subject: Re: speak freely via a router
> 
> 
> > I have an SMC Barricade that provides me 802.11b plus 3 100Mbps ethernet
> jackes. It does NAT do a degree as well. I have it serving 192.168.177.0 on
> wireless and 192.168.77.0 on the wired ports. Some machines have static IPs,
> and others are assigned via DHCP all of which this router manages quite
> well. I configure everything using Lynx. I can do everything except make the
> changes take effect with Lynx. Fortunately, the changes take effect by
> simply power cycling the router. In other words, I can save my changes to
> the router's memory, I just can't power cycle it from Lynx. I have to power
> cycle by hand.
> >
> > Rejean Proulx writes:
> > > dlink routers are not very accessible using Windows and explorer 5.
> Linksys
> > > routers are much easier for a blind person to configure if on would
> solve
> > > your problems.  I know, I have both kinds.  I don't knew is linksys
> would
> > > work with lynx.  I suspect it would as it is quite text based.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Guy Abandon." <text.tools@virgin.net>
> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: speak freely via a router
> > >
> > >
> > > I would have gone the way of recommending a D-Link router as we have one
> > > here too; but it took a machine with Windows and i.e5 or above to
> configure
> > > it.  A shame given how many other possibilities there are here and none
> of
> > > them worked.  Mozilla, Netscape, both LINKS/LYNX.  But otherwise, it
> does
> > > work a treat and working to capacity with all four local ports
> occupied - 2
> > > Windows (different) and 2 Linux (both different).
> > >
> > > GA!
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Stupid Debian question

[Ari Moisio]

Hi!

  I just installed Debian Woody and noticed than ii'm unable to find any
kind of sound card drivers: neither alsa nor oss. Witch package contains
them or should i compile a new kernel?


-- 
arimo

Re: speak freely via a router

[Sean McMahon]

There is a way to configure your linux box as a router.  My guess is it's on the
documentation project.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Abandon." <text.tools@virgin.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: speak freely via a router


> I would have gone the way of recommending a D-Link router as we have one
> here too; but it took a machine with Windows and i.e5 or above to configure
> it.  A shame given how many other possibilities there are here and none of
> them worked.  Mozilla, Netscape, both LINKS/LYNX.  But otherwise, it does
> work a treat and working to capacity with all four local ports occupied - 2
> Windows (different) and 2 Linux (both different).
>
> GA!
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: speak freely via a router

[Alex Snow]

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the really good ones have a serial port for their management. I used 
one of those interfaces on a nortel concintrator once and it was 
pretty cool.
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 11:30:34AM -0400, Erik Heil wrote:
> Some routers actually have a telnet interface, so we don't even have to deal
> with the Web-based stuff.  Hmmm, Xyxel makes them, but they're DSL
> modems/bridges.  Cisco also does, but unless you get them on EBay, forget
> about it, they're expensive for what you want them to do.  Granted they
> provide nice features.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:17 AM
> Subject: Re: speak freely via a router
> 
> 
> > I have an SMC Barricade that provides me 802.11b plus 3 100Mbps ethernet
> jackes. It does NAT do a degree as well. I have it serving 192.168.177.0 on
> wireless and 192.168.77.0 on the wired ports. Some machines have static IPs,
> and others are assigned via DHCP all of which this router manages quite
> well. I configure everything using Lynx. I can do everything except make the
> changes take effect with Lynx. Fortunately, the changes take effect by
> simply power cycling the router. In other words, I can save my changes to
> the router's memory, I just can't power cycle it from Lynx. I have to power
> cycle by hand.
> >
> > Rejean Proulx writes:
> > > dlink routers are not very accessible using Windows and explorer 5.
> Linksys
> > > routers are much easier for a blind person to configure if on would
> solve
> > > your problems.  I know, I have both kinds.  I don't knew is linksys
> would
> > > work with lynx.  I suspect it would as it is quite text based.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Guy Abandon." <text.tools@virgin.net>
> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: speak freely via a router
> > >
> > >
> > > I would have gone the way of recommending a D-Link router as we have one
> > > here too; but it took a machine with Windows and i.e5 or above to
> configure
> > > it.  A shame given how many other possibilities there are here and none
> of
> > > them worked.  Mozilla, Netscape, both LINKS/LYNX.  But otherwise, it
> does
> > > work a treat and working to capacity with all four local ports
> occupied - 2
> > > Windows (different) and 2 Linux (both different).
> > >
> > > GA!
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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I forgot to mention an important fact in the 1.3.67 announcement. In order to 
get a fully working kernel, you have to follow the steps below:
 - Walk around your computer widdershins 3 times, chanting "Linus is
   overworked, and he makes lousy patches, but we love him anyway". Get
   your spuouse to do this too for extra effect.  Children are optional.
 - Apply the patch included in this mail
 - Call your system "Super-67", and don't forget to unapply the patch
   before you later applying the official 1.3.68 patch.
 - reboot
	-- Linus Torvalds, announcing another kernel patch
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