More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

[Lorenzo Prince]

Hi.  I am currently using CenterICQ as my instant messenger.  It currently supports MSN messenger, which is good at the 
moment cause I have a lot of friends who use it, some because they are visually impaired and it works very well with 
JAWS and others "because it somes with Windows so why not use it?"  The problem is that after October 15th we will no 
longer be able to connect to MSN Messenger throu any 3rd-party apps as Microsoft is looking to get paid in yet another 
area or something.  They claim it's about security but we all know where they really stand on that issue.  In fact it 
can probably be proven that many of the 3rd-party apps that they will be blocking are more secure than their own client, 
but that's beside the point.

the real reason for this post is that I need one of two things:
I need either another messenger client that I can use that will be able to bypass Microsoft's monopolistic attack 
against 3rd-party clients, that is unless the developer of Centericq has found a way to do this, or else I need to know 
if a good alternative for both Linux and windows messaging.  I know AIM is good, but at least 1 of my friends says he 
hates it, something about it not working as well with JAWS or something.  I would need a good text-mode dlient for 
whatever I connect to, preferably CenterICQ will be able to connect to it, as I already have it configured.  The windows 
version will also need to work well with JAWS, preferably better than MSN/Windows Messenger, and if possible it needs to 
look better to sighted users than MSN/Windows Messenger so my sighted friends will like it too.

Can someone please help me with this so I can have enough time to alert people of my change of messengers if I need to 
do so?  

Thanks,

Lorenzo Prince
I HATE MACROHARD, KNOWN TO SOME AS MICROSOFT!

Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

[dashielljt]

Well, there's the naim package that has nicq in it and liy as well.  I got
that built on slackware 9_0 machine with no problems at all.

-- 
-----
GNU Linux a real operating system with a clu

Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

[Chris]

Hey,

I have been told, that the author of Centericq was working on reverse
engeneering the prog to bypass it...  i mean they had to probably do that
with the protocols in the first place...


Chris.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@prince.homelinux.org>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Cc: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:24 AM
Subject: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger


> Hi.  I am currently using CenterICQ as my instant messenger.  It currently
supports MSN messenger, which is good at the
> moment cause I have a lot of friends who use it, some because they are
visually impaired and it works very well with
> JAWS and others "because it somes with Windows so why not use it?"  The
problem is that after October 15th we will no
> longer be able to connect to MSN Messenger throu any 3rd-party apps as
Microsoft is looking to get paid in yet another
> area or something.  They claim it's about security but we all know where
they really stand on that issue.  In fact it
> can probably be proven that many of the 3rd-party apps that they will be
blocking are more secure than their own client,
> but that's beside the point.
>
> the real reason for this post is that I need one of two things:
> I need either another messenger client that I can use that will be able to
bypass Microsoft's monopolistic attack
> against 3rd-party clients, that is unless the developer of Centericq has
found a way to do this, or else I need to know
> if a good alternative for both Linux and windows messaging.  I know AIM is
good, but at least 1 of my friends says he
> hates it, something about it not working as well with JAWS or something.
I would need a good text-mode dlient for
> whatever I connect to, preferably CenterICQ will be able to connect to it,
as I already have it configured.  The windows
> version will also need to work well with JAWS, preferably better than
MSN/Windows Messenger, and if possible it needs to
> look better to sighted users than MSN/Windows Messenger so my sighted
friends will like it too.
>
> Can someone please help me with this so I can have enough time to alert
people of my change of messengers if I need to
> do so?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lorenzo Prince
> I HATE MACROHARD, KNOWN TO SOME AS MICROSOFT!
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

[Jes and guide dog Harley]

Hello Lorenzo, you might try Skype from:
www.skype.com although I don't know if that works under Linux. I hope it does, as I will be going to Linux in December of this
year.

Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

[Chris]

jes...

Skype, is totally windows based...


Sorry...

There's always speek freely though.


Chris.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger


> Hello Lorenzo, you might try Skype from:
> www.skype.com although I don't know if that works under Linux. I hope it
does, as I will be going to Linux in December of this
> year.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

[dashielljt]

right naim is a console version of gaim using the ncurses library.

-- ----- GNU Linux a real operating system with a clu ICQ: 204427655

Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger

[Joseph C. Lininger]

You think MS will take them to court for patent infringement or something
stupid like that? <grin>
--
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger


> Hey,
>
> I have been told, that the author of Centericq was working on reverse
> engeneering the prog to bypass it...  i mean they had to probably do that
> with the protocols in the first place...
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@prince.homelinux.org>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Cc: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:24 AM
> Subject: More Microsoft nonsense--MSN Messenger
>
>
> > Hi.  I am currently using CenterICQ as my instant messenger.  It
currently
> supports MSN messenger, which is good at the
> > moment cause I have a lot of friends who use it, some because they are
> visually impaired and it works very well with
> > JAWS and others "because it somes with Windows so why not use it?"  The
> problem is that after October 15th we will no
> > longer be able to connect to MSN Messenger throu any 3rd-party apps as
> Microsoft is looking to get paid in yet another
> > area or something.  They claim it's about security but we all know where
> they really stand on that issue.  In fact it
> > can probably be proven that many of the 3rd-party apps that they will be
> blocking are more secure than their own client,
> > but that's beside the point.
> >
> > the real reason for this post is that I need one of two things:
> > I need either another messenger client that I can use that will be able
to
> bypass Microsoft's monopolistic attack
> > against 3rd-party clients, that is unless the developer of Centericq has
> found a way to do this, or else I need to know
> > if a good alternative for both Linux and windows messaging.  I know AIM
is
> good, but at least 1 of my friends says he
> > hates it, something about it not working as well with JAWS or something.
> I would need a good text-mode dlient for
> > whatever I connect to, preferably CenterICQ will be able to connect to
it,
> as I already have it configured.  The windows
> > version will also need to work well with JAWS, preferably better than
> MSN/Windows Messenger, and if possible it needs to
> > look better to sighted users than MSN/Windows Messenger so my sighted
> friends will like it too.
> >
> > Can someone please help me with this so I can have enough time to alert
> people of my change of messengers if I need to
> > do so?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lorenzo Prince
> > I HATE MACROHARD, KNOWN TO SOME AS MICROSOFT!
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>