E mail?

E mail?

[Darragh]

Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember hearing something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a few files, typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.

i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!

Thanks


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Re: E mail?

[Keith Watson]

I seem to recall that they removed Pine from fedora for some 
reason. Can't tell you why. I use Mutt and like it a bunch. Give 
it a try.

Keith

On 10:30 AM, Darragh wrote:
> Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember hearing something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a few files, typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.
> 
> i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Darragh
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Re: E mail?

[Erik Heil]

What you need to do is go up onto the redhat or Redora website and get the
RPM for Pine and then install it.
#su

$ rpm -i package name.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:30 AM
Subject: E mail?


Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember hearing
something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a few files,
typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.

i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!

Thanks


Darragh
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Re: E mail?

[Alex Snow]

pine is ok, but it's not opensource and lacks built-in pgp support. 
mutt is a good email client. see www.mutt.org.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 
10:30:34AM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember hearing something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a few files, typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.
> 
> i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Darragh
> ***********************************************
>              www.digitaldarragh.com
> Visit the site today.  Witness for your self
> the abundance of free howtos and 
> introductions available to you from one
> comprehensive source.
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> *****************Important********************
> This E mail address is *Private*, you are not 
> authorized to redistribute or share this 
> address with any one unless given permission 
> by the owner: Darragh ? H?iligh.
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Re: E mail?

[Alex Snow]

probably bc it's not free software.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:15:22AM 
-0500, Keith Watson wrote:
> I seem to recall that they removed Pine from fedora for some 
> reason. Can't tell you why. I use Mutt and like it a bunch. Give 
> it a try.
> 
> Keith
> 
> On 10:30 AM, Darragh wrote:
> > Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember hearing something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a few files, typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.
> > 
> > i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Darragh
> > ***********************************************
> >              www.digitaldarragh.com
> > Visit the site today.  Witness for your self
> > the abundance of free howtos and 
> > introductions available to you from one
> > comprehensive source.
> > ***********************************************
> > *****************Important********************
> > This E mail address is *Private*, you are not 
> > authorized to redistribute or share this 
> > address with any one unless given permission 
> > by the owner: Darragh ? H?iligh.
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Re: E mail?

[Darragh]

can one of you shed some light on the muttrc file?  and how I should go
about configuring it to send and recieve mail?  It seems extreemly
complicated.

Thanks


Darragh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: E mail?


> pine is ok, but it's not opensource and lacks built-in pgp support.
> mutt is a good email client. see www.mutt.org.
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at
> 10:30:34AM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember
hearing something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a
few files, typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.
> >
> > i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> > ***********************************************
> >              www.digitaldarragh.com
> > Visit the site today.  Witness for your self
> > the abundance of free howtos and
> > introductions available to you from one
> > comprehensive source.
> > ***********************************************
> > *****************Important********************
> > This E mail address is *Private*, you are not
> > authorized to redistribute or share this
> > address with any one unless given permission
> > by the owner: Darragh ? H?iligh.
> > ***********************************************
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: E mail?

[Geoff Shang]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> pine is ok, but it's not opensource and lacks built-in pgp support.

ahem... So how come I could download a source tarball and compile it?
Please be sure to use correct terminology, especially when answering
people's questions.

Geoff.

Re: E mail?

[Janina Sajka]

Use mutt.. If you get it configured properly, you'll not miss pine at
all.
Pine can be gotten. It just doesn't ship with Fedora because it has a
broken license.


Darragh writes:
> From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember hearing something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a few files, typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.
> 
> i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Darragh
> ***********************************************
>              www.digitaldarragh.com
> Visit the site today.  Witness for your self
> the abundance of free howtos and 
> introductions available to you from one
> comprehensive source.
> ***********************************************
> *****************Important********************
> This E mail address is *Private*, you are not 
> authorized to redistribute or share this 
> address with any one unless given permission 
> by the owner: Darragh Ó Héiligh.
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Re: E mail?

[Alex Snow]

there's a good example at www.dotfiles.com. also take a look at your 
system-wide Muttrc usually located in /etc.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 
03:10:26PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> can one of you shed some light on the muttrc file?  and how I should go
> about configuring it to send and recieve mail?  It seems extreemly
> complicated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Darragh
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: E mail?
> 
> 
> > pine is ok, but it's not opensource and lacks built-in pgp support.
> > mutt is a good email client. see www.mutt.org.
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at
> > 10:30:34AM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > > Hello all, Are there any good E mail clients in Linux?  I remember
> hearing something about pine but although when I type locate pine I get a
> few files, typing pine at the prompt doesn't do anything.
> > >
> > > i'm using fedora core 1.  And its excilent!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Darragh
> > > ***********************************************
> > >              www.digitaldarragh.com
> > > Visit the site today.  Witness for your self
> > > the abundance of free howtos and
> > > introductions available to you from one
> > > comprehensive source.
> > > ***********************************************
> > > *****************Important********************
> > > This E mail address is *Private*, you are not
> > > authorized to redistribute or share this
> > > address with any one unless given permission
> > > by the owner: Darragh ? H?iligh.
> > > ***********************************************
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
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Re: E mail?

[Alex Snow]

just because you can get the sourcecode doesn't always mean it's 
opensource.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 01:57:19AM +1000, Geoff Shang wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
> 
> > pine is ok, but it's not opensource and lacks built-in pgp support.
> 
> ahem... So how come I could download a source tarball and compile it?
> Please be sure to use correct terminology, especially when answering
> people's questions.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: E mail?

[Gregory Nowak]

Actually, the term you're looking for is free software, not open
source. Yes, there's a difference.

Greg


On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> just because you can get the sourcecode doesn't always mean it's 
> opensource.

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Re: E mail?

[Darragh]

ok, can someone clarify all this?
If I use an E mail application in gnome I only have to configure one
program.  However if I use mutt I have to configure mut, fetchmail and
sendmail.  Is this right?  If so can someone give me any suggestions on the
easiest quickest and most reliable method of configuring these?


Thanks


Darragh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: E mail?


> Actually, the term you're looking for is free software, not open
> source. Yes, there's a difference.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > just because you can get the sourcecode doesn't always mean it's
> > opensource.
>
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Re: E mail?

[Alex Snow]

ah yes. thanks. I knew it was one of those terms.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 
01:16:56PM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Actually, the term you're looking for is free software, not open
> source. Yes, there's a difference.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > just because you can get the sourcecode doesn't always mean it's 
> > opensource.
> 
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Re: E mail?

[Alex Snow]

well you don't need fetchmail..at least I think you don't. mut can 
fetch from pop3 and imap servers.
but you do need sendmail.
pine is the opisite. you don't need sendmail but you need fetchmail.
now most distros come with sendmail or exim pre-configured so you 
shouldnt have to do that much work.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:31:17PM 
-0000, Darragh wrote:
> ok, can someone clarify all this?
> If I use an E mail application in gnome I only have to configure one
> program.  However if I use mutt I have to configure mut, fetchmail and
> sendmail.  Is this right?  If so can someone give me any suggestions on the
> easiest quickest and most reliable method of configuring these?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Darragh
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: E mail?
> 
> 
> > Actually, the term you're looking for is free software, not open
> > source. Yes, there's a difference.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > just because you can get the sourcecode doesn't always mean it's
> > > opensource.
> >
> > -- 
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> >
> >
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Re: E mail?

[Darragh]

I read today that although pop3 access can be done from mutt its very
difficult and the easiest option is threw fetch mail
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: E mail?


> well you don't need fetchmail..at least I think you don't. mut can
> fetch from pop3 and imap servers.
> but you do need sendmail.
> pine is the opisite. you don't need sendmail but you need fetchmail.
> now most distros come with sendmail or exim pre-configured so you
> shouldnt have to do that much work.
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:31:17PM
> -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > ok, can someone clarify all this?
> > If I use an E mail application in gnome I only have to configure one
> > program.  However if I use mutt I have to configure mut, fetchmail and
> > sendmail.  Is this right?  If so can someone give me any suggestions on
the
> > easiest quickest and most reliable method of configuring these?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: E mail?
> >
> >
> > > Actually, the term you're looking for is free software, not open
> > > source. Yes, there's a difference.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > just because you can get the sourcecode doesn't always mean it's
> > > > opensource.
> > >
> > > -- 
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> > >
> > >
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> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: E mail?

[Erik Heil]

Well, you don't have to use sendmail by any means.  Exim is easier to
configure and has some spam-fighting capabilities.  While you're at it,
check out qmail which is also a very good mta.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: E mail?


> I read today that although pop3 access can be done from mutt its very
> difficult and the easiest option is threw fetch mail
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: E mail?
>
>
> > well you don't need fetchmail..at least I think you don't. mut can
> > fetch from pop3 and imap servers.
> > but you do need sendmail.
> > pine is the opisite. you don't need sendmail but you need fetchmail.
> > now most distros come with sendmail or exim pre-configured so you
> > shouldnt have to do that much work.
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:31:17PM
> > -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > > ok, can someone clarify all this?
> > > If I use an E mail application in gnome I only have to configure one
> > > program.  However if I use mutt I have to configure mut, fetchmail and
> > > sendmail.  Is this right?  If so can someone give me any suggestions
on
> the
> > > easiest quickest and most reliable method of configuring these?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Darragh
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: E mail?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually, the term you're looking for is free software, not open
> > > > source. Yes, there's a difference.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:00:54PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > just because you can get the sourcecode doesn't always mean it's
> > > > > opensource.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > -- 
> > Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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Re: E mail?

[Steve Holmes]

Well, I don't know about POP3 for sure but Mutt works great with IMAP
because I use it here on two different linux client machines and it is
quite flawless.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:40:32PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> I read today that although pop3 access can be done from mutt its very
> difficult and the easiest option is threw fetch mail
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Re: E mail?

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

Pines works just fine with IMAP as well as POP3.
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> well you don't need fetchmail..at least I think you don't. mut can 
> fetch from pop3 and imap servers.
> but you do need sendmail.
> pine is the opisite. you don't need sendmail but you need fetchmail.
> now most distros come with sendmail or exim pre-configured so you 
> shouldnt have to do that much work.