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[Allan Shaw]

Hi folks,

although I didn't read the initial note from Kevin, I have read many of 
your responses and based solely on them I think I know what Kevin is 
asking, so let me give it a try.

summary, I believe Kevin is wondering if he could connect from his Windows 
workstation to a Linux environment which has Speakup install on to and be 
able to use the speech from the linux environment work across the network 
on his Windows workstation.

Assuming the above summary is correct, and yes that's a big assumption!
What Kevin is asking about is what we refer to as a Thin-client environment 
such as is used with the Microsoft Terminal server or the Citrix Metaframe 
environment.  In both these cases all apps, are installed and driven from 
the server with only the (video, keyboard and mouse stokes and in this case 
speech) sent across the network to the individual workstation.  In answer 
to someone elses inquiry if this uses considerable bandwidth the answer is 
no, that's why we call it a Thin-Client.

Now, although I'm new to the linux environment, to the best of my limited 
knowledge a terminal server product is not yet available for the linux 
platform.  However with the speed in which products are being developped 
for Linux, you may only have to wait six months and one will be available.

... now if I'm way off base here, sorry for the inconvenience and you may 
ignore.

Re: *** Spam and whatever

[Geoff Shang]

Hi Allan:

The whole point of this thread is that Kevin wasn't asking anything, he was
telling us something.  Exactly what he was telling us was far from clear,
as it was ajumble of ALSA, Windows, Linux, JFW and who knows what.  And it
was written in such a way that it's not even clear what he was trying to
say, so we don't even know if he's even got half a clue.

Geoff.

Re: *** Spam and whatever

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Hi Allan,

You have us at a disadvantage since we have all read Kevin on the
subject; it is probably easier to figure out what he is saying
from only the replies of puzzled others, as you have done.

If your analysis is correct about the thin-client idea, let me
ask what is probably a dumb question...

Speakup drives a hardware synthesizer on the Linux box where it
is implemented. How would one send speech output over a link to a
client machine? How would the client machine reproduce the sound?
I can understand shipping keystrokes, mouse tracks, and video
over a network link, but how would one ship the speech? I guess I
still don't get it.

Chuck


On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Allan Shaw wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> although I didn't read the initial note from Kevin, I have read many of
> your responses and based solely on them I think I know what Kevin is
> asking, so let me give it a try.
>
> summary, I believe Kevin is wondering if he could connect from his Windows
> workstation to a Linux environment which has Speakup install on to and be
> able to use the speech from the linux environment work across the network
> on his Windows workstation.
>
> Assuming the above summary is correct, and yes that's a big assumption!
> What Kevin is asking about is what we refer to as a Thin-client environment
> such as is used with the Microsoft Terminal server or the Citrix Metaframe
> environment.  In both these cases all apps, are installed and driven from
> the server with only the (video, keyboard and mouse stokes and in this case
> speech) sent across the network to the individual workstation.  In answer
> to someone elses inquiry if this uses considerable bandwidth the answer is
> no, that's why we call it a Thin-Client.
>
> Now, although I'm new to the linux environment, to the best of my limited
> knowledge a terminal server product is not yet available for the linux
> platform.  However with the speed in which products are being developped
> for Linux, you may only have to wait six months and one will be available.
>
> ... now if I'm way off base here, sorry for the inconvenience and you may
> ignore.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: *** Spam and whatever

[Keith Watson]

Actually there is a terminal services project for linux, it's 
called LTSP, Linux Terminal Service Project. And it works quite 
well, for both gui and console. And Citrix has a linux client 
available as well. Not much sence in running it though as there 
is no speech.

Keith

On 10:28 AM, Allan Shaw wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> although I didn't read the initial note from Kevin, I have read many of 
> your responses and based solely on them I think I know what Kevin is 
> asking, so let me give it a try.
> 
> summary, I believe Kevin is wondering if he could connect from his Windows 
> workstation to a Linux environment which has Speakup install on to and be 
> able to use the speech from the linux environment work across the network 
> on his Windows workstation.
> 
> Assuming the above summary is correct, and yes that's a big assumption!
> What Kevin is asking about is what we refer to as a Thin-client environment 
> such as is used with the Microsoft Terminal server or the Citrix Metaframe 
> environment.  In both these cases all apps, are installed and driven from 
> the server with only the (video, keyboard and mouse stokes and in this case 
> speech) sent across the network to the individual workstation.  In answer 
> to someone elses inquiry if this uses considerable bandwidth the answer is 
> no, that's why we call it a Thin-Client.
> 
> Now, although I'm new to the linux environment, to the best of my limited 
> knowledge a terminal server product is not yet available for the linux 
> platform.  However with the speed in which products are being developped 
> for Linux, you may only have to wait six months and one will be available.
> 
> ... now if I'm way off base here, sorry for the inconvenience and you may 
> ignore.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Keith Watson
kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace

Re: *** Spam and whatever

[Luke Davis]

There is also the Tarentella product, which has reasonable market share.

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Keith Watson wrote:

> Actually there is a terminal services project for linux, it's
> called LTSP, Linux Terminal Service Project. And it works quite
> well, for both gui and console. And Citrix has a linux client
> available as well. Not much sence in running it though as there
> is no speech.
>
> Keith
>
> On 10:28 AM, Allan Shaw wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > although I didn't read the initial note from Kevin, I have read many of
> > your responses and based solely on them I think I know what Kevin is
> > asking, so let me give it a try.
> >
> > summary, I believe Kevin is wondering if he could connect from his Windows
> > workstation to a Linux environment which has Speakup install on to and be
> > able to use the speech from the linux environment work across the network
> > on his Windows workstation.
> >
> > Assuming the above summary is correct, and yes that's a big assumption!
> > What Kevin is asking about is what we refer to as a Thin-client environment
> > such as is used with the Microsoft Terminal server or the Citrix Metaframe
> > environment.  In both these cases all apps, are installed and driven from
> > the server with only the (video, keyboard and mouse stokes and in this case
> > speech) sent across the network to the individual workstation.  In answer
> > to someone elses inquiry if this uses considerable bandwidth the answer is
> > no, that's why we call it a Thin-Client.
> >
> > Now, although I'm new to the linux environment, to the best of my limited
> > knowledge a terminal server product is not yet available for the linux
> > platform.  However with the speed in which products are being developped
> > for Linux, you may only have to wait six months and one will be available.
> >
> > ... now if I'm way off base here, sorry for the inconvenience and you may
> > ignore.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

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